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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:32pm On Nov 05, 2014
This is how to compare vehicles.

Photo 1 IGIRIGI

Photo 2 Otokar cobra

What are the now technical details, how have they been used, what conflicts have they seen, how do they look in appearance.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:33pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


How many photos have I posted on this topic? How many are animated, and why did I bring in animation into this discussion?

I want you to answer.

Why should I care why you did it and what you THOUGHT you were doing? I care only about the EFFECT of it. And the EFFECT of it is that it proves nothing. It is dreams, as matters stand currently.

Animated design? Picture below, dude.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:35pm On Nov 05, 2014
ActivateKruger:


Sorry I lied.. Do you want to know what Mubi means in my language instead?
how...interesting.well,for your information,i lied about what igirigi meant.duh?.a fleet of the igirigi is enough to destabilize your dumb defence force.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:36pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:
This is how to compare vehicles.

Photo 1 IGIRIGI

Photo 2 Otokar cobra

What are the now technical details, how have they been used, what conflicts have they seen, how do they look in appearance.

Henry, the ugliness of the Igirigi is what we are discussing. How they have been used matters how? Conflicts matter how? All this because the Igirigi is not winning any beauty contests?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:36pm On Nov 05, 2014
Merely looking at these vehicles, they are in the same class, they have the same ballistics protection, and have seen the same conflicts, are also been used by the same army.


If I were to choose one of the 2 vehicles, i'll pick the IGIRIGI over the Cobra. Both vehicles offer the same thing, but because of Economics, i'll choose the IGIRIGI over the Otokar Cobra for COIN operations.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:38pm On Nov 05, 2014
DieVluit:


Why should I care why you did it and what you THOUGHT you were doing? I care only about the EFFECT of it. And the EFFECT of it is that it proves nothing. It is dreams, as matters stand currently.

Animated design? Picture below, dude.

Retarrd.

Make coherent comments.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:39pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


All your blabbing, yet no Aviation fuel for your planes and no tents for your troops.

[size=15pt]The airforce without aviation fuel flew 18 454 hours in the last financial year - which is 50 hours a day, every day of year[/size]

The Department of Defence’s 2013/14 annual report
- the SAAF flew a total of 18 454 hours for the year ending March 31.

http://www.dod.mil.za/documents/annualreports/DoD%20Annual%20Report%202014.pdf

I hope this finally puts to bed your petulant and false claims.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:39pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:
Merely looking at these vehicles, they are in the same class, they have the same ballistics protection, and have seen the same conflicts, are also been used by the same army.


If I were to choose one of the 2 vehicles, i'll pick the IGIRIGI over the Cobra. Both vehicles offer the same thing, but because of Economics, i'll choose the IGIRIGI over the Otokar Cobra for COIN operations.

grin grin

I think I get it now, the Igirigi was "designed" off the Cobra. But their welding let them down, the Nigerians. grin

Now, you are talking about economics and what they supposedly offer. Who in which post was talking about that? Who are you debating with now? What point are you debating?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Nov 05, 2014
Patchesagain:


Still parroting out the same lies?


How can they be lies when your defence minister confirms them. Are you now the Defence minister of South-Africa?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 2:41pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:
This is how to compare vehicles.

Photo 1 IGIRIGI

Photo 2 Otokar cobra

What are the now technical details, how have they been used, what conflicts have they seen, how do they look in appearance.

No this is how to compare vehicles

Photo 1: South African made RG 32

Photo 2: Nigerian made Igirigi

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:41pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:
This is how to compare vehicles.

Photo 1 IGIRIGI

Photo 2 Otokar cobra

What are the now technical details, how have they been used, what conflicts have they seen, how do they look in appearance.

- cobra
- good

Pic one and only one

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:41pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


Retarrd.

Make coherent comments.

It's a very simple comment. If you remove the butthurt from your eyes, you'll get it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:43pm On Nov 05, 2014
ActivateKruger:


No this is how to compare vehicles

Photo 1: South African made RG 32

Photo 2: Nigerian made Igirigi

Look at the beauty that's the RG 32. Beeeyateeeful.

Ok, now what exactly is happening with the Igirigi's suspension? There's something funny there.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:45pm On Nov 05, 2014
Patchesagain:


A simple V-shaped hull is 1970's tech (pic related)

Does it have blast funnels?

Is the engine block and suspension designed to absorb the impact?

Is the interior designed to prevent spinal injuries to the crew when the vehicle is hit?

Is it specially designed so that a side-impact will not roll the vehicle over?

Your first attempt at an MRAP is cute, keep at it for another... 40 years and you will be where we are today.



While you keep posting photos of P.W Botha's military industry.

Thanks to him.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:46pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


While you keep posting photos of P.W Botha's military industry.

Thanks to him.

Hahaha, we take it you accept the photos are great, then? Thought so.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:47pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


While you keep posting photos of P.W Botha's military industry.

Thanks to him.

Yep, they left us a nice military industrial complex and we have continued to grow it.

Not sure how this is relevant though? Since, the question is as to who's is better. Could you explain?

Also,

Question: Which of these were around in the 1980's?
Answer: None - all products of the Rainbow Nation

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 2:49pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


While you keep posting photos of P.W Botha's military industry.

Thanks to him.

What was Nigeria doing in the meantime? Nothing.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:50pm On Nov 05, 2014
ActivateKruger:


What was Nigeria doing in the meantime? Nothing.

Think they were fighting a civil war..?

What are they doing now?

Fighting a war...?

Ag man, who cares, just post them pics.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:51pm On Nov 05, 2014
[size=15pt]Henry... do you care to retract your "no aviation fuel" statements? [/size]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:51pm On Nov 05, 2014
DieVluit:


You are an id1ot, Henry. Class is irrelevant. How BEAUTY works in APCs is what matters. That's what you asked and that's what I showed you. Even if I'd put up a picture of an APC in the same class as the APC (although that would be an insult to that APC), you still would get the same post. Deal with the post and stop playing for time.

The igirigi is ugly in the way I explained in my post. Deal with that and leave the irrelevant stuff for another day.

You protested that APCs aren't made to be beautiful and I told you what we mean by beautiful. No reason for confusion.

Guy listen,

When comparing to items, you get an item in the same category as the original item you want to compare with.

You don't compare a Car(sedan) and a Lorry, it makes absolutely no sense to do that.

The IGIRIGI is an absolutely beautiful APC, when compared to the Otokar cobra.

This is my position.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:53pm On Nov 05, 2014
Patchesagain:
[size=15pt]Henry... do you care to retract your "no aviation fuel" statements? [/size]

Go tell this to your defence minister. The comments were attributed to her.

For all we know, you lack aviation fuel and tents for your troops in the DRC.

Until that happens...........
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:53pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:
This is how to compare vehicles.

Photo 1 IGIRIGI

Photo 2 Otokar cobra

What are the now technical details, how have they been used, what conflicts have they seen, how do they look in appearance.

That Igirigi above looks like a chicken cage.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:53pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


Guy listen,

When comparing to items, you get an item in the same category as the original item you want to compare with.

You don't compare a Car(sedan) and a Lorry, it makes absolutely no sense to do that.

The IGIRIGI is an absolutely beautiful APC, when compared to the Otokar cobra.

This is my position.

No, dude. You are the one who wanted to compare items.

We said the Igirigi is ugly and you wanted to know what that means. I told you. Now you are going on and on about all things irrelevant.

LOL - from "APCs are not designed to be beautiful" to the bolded. Please say you are to be slapped with a dead fish...?

Your ..."when compared to" qualification is also a joke, man. Anyway, the Igirigi remains the ugliest APC in town. UGLIEST.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:54pm On Nov 05, 2014
DieVluit:


Hahaha, we take it you accept the photos are great, then? Thought so.

I have no problems with the 100% white Afrikanner defence industry.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:55pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


Guy listen,

When comparing to items, you get an item in the same category as the original item you want to compare with.

You don't compare a Car(sedan) and a Lorry, it makes absolutely no sense to do that.

The IGIRIGI is an absolutely beautiful APC, when compared to the Otokar cobra.

This is my position.

If you say its and APC then it is comparable to ALL APC's
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 2:56pm On Nov 05, 2014
Here's another Nigerian APC...buhahahahah

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:57pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


Go tell this to your defence minister. The comments were attributed to her.

For all we know, you lack aviation fuel and tents for your troops in the DRC.

Until that happens...........


That's untrue. No conditions are permanent.

If they lacked fuel and tents that time does not mean the status quo remains even today. Such is just a matter of days to address.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:57pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


I have no problems with the 100% white Afrikanner defence industry.

LOL - what are you now comparing the Igirigi to APC's in the "black people" class? Is that how desperate you've become?
Wait, Henry...Denel is owned by the government and the people of SA...

Soooo....I am glad we agree that you simply love our APCs.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:57pm On Nov 05, 2014
Henry120:


100% white Afrikanner defence industry.


Moving the goalposts again?

Also, citation needed.

Yet again

- Runs out of argument
- MUH ACHEIVMENTS OF MUH 100% black blah blah blah

Keep your posts on topic.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:58pm On Nov 05, 2014
ActivateKruger:
Here's another Nigerian APC...buhahahahah

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:58pm On Nov 05, 2014
DieVluit:


Henry, the ugliness of the Igirigi is what we are discussing. How they have been used matters how? Conflicts matter how? All this because the Igirigi is not winning any beauty contests?

Why should an APC be involved in a beauty contest, is that what it is designed to do?

The Igirigi is finer than the Otokar Cobra, and I consider the Otokar cobra to be a beautiful APC.

The rest of the things I mentioned matter because it was designed to perform those duties.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:00pm On Nov 05, 2014
Patchesagain:



That's a prowler APC with a state of the art surveillance system. Another proud Nigerian product.

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