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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:28pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Patchesagain: It is a Prowler Armoured personnel carrier. Unlike you, I don't go about parroting a 5% minority owned defence industry. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:30pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Patchesagain: My Ribs oh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Reported off topic for saying the truth. *ROTFL* |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 3:32pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: My friend, stop using race to justify ugly designs... I'm black, I can design and I never mention race for any design shortcomings. UGLY is UGLY... period |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:32pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
mzilakazi: According to your defence minister, you lack them. Her words over yours anyday, anytime. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:33pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Well, he has accepted that South African designs are better, hence the next frontier, race. But he's lost already, when he goes there, because he never would've gone there if he knew they had better designs. But they don't. Was this thing made off a schoolbus anyway?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:36pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: The flight hours come from her department too. So you have a BEEEEG internal conflict to resolve there. But we knew that already. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:36pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
DieVluit: White minority owned and run defence industry. Question is, where is the rest of the 90% majority black in that industry? If according to your claim it is owned by all south-africans. All we see are dutch people all over the place. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:38pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
mzilakazi: I'm saying the Defence industry is 100% white run and owned. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:40pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: HOW? HOW? How is the APC industry white minority owned and run, Sir? Wait, have you given that up? The APC story? Are you now talking about something else? Forever shifting, is it? Why? Because you keep LOSING? Denel is 100% owned by the people of SA. By government. It's not a claim. It's a fact. I asked a question: And how does all this change the fact that the Igirigi is ugly and that South African designs are better? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 3:40pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: You are obsessed with race. Just imagine labelling African Americans as not being American enough. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:41pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Its a POS and I am Parroting a 100% South African defence industry. That is all that matters. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:42pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: How is economic empowerment related to the quality of military equipment? Keep moving the goal posts... it wont make your indigenous APC's and less terrible |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:43pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Who's using race to justify anything? I said the Igirigi isn't ugly. I also said your defence industry is 100 percent white run and controlled. Does this read to you like i'm using race to justify design? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:44pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: 18 000 hours says we dont. It goes to show what we have been saying. We dont literally lack fuel. We simply lack the fuel we would like to keep the standards we have set for ourselves. And btw, we budgeted for 22 000 flight hours last year... and only used 18 000 so we actually have an excess of fuel. And our Minister never said we lack fuel. Your argument has been destroyed in every conceivable way 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:45pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Why did you bring race up? Because you couldn't handle the fact that the APC's coming out of SA are miles ahead of the Igirigi and the black school bus. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:45pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Again, I ask. How is this relevant? Its 100% South African. How is race relevant? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:46pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Again, I ask. How is this relevant? Its 100% South African. How is race relevant? Henry120: Which is: 1. Irrelevant 2. Baseless - you have simply made up that "fact" Yet again, you lose an argument because your equipment is inferior and then start muddying the waters and moving the goal-posts by talking about economic transformation. Tell me, how is race, in any way shape or form relevant to anything under discussion in this forum? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 3:47pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: That's untrue. Denel is state owned |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:47pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Patchesagain: It is 5% minority owned. This is the fact, no matter how far you try to run away from it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 3:49pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: You mentioned race because we said the Igirigi and that bus-like thing were ugly. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:49pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Denel is the APC industry and it is 100% owned by government. And the Igirigi will still be ugly after all this and South African APC will still be well regarded. Can the bold part change? Nope! So, why is race relevant? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:49pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: If its a fact then you should be able to easily post a citation. As usual you have had to resort to making things up to detract from the fact that Nigeria's flagship design is a sub-standard POS |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:50pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: How is this relevant to Nigeria not being able to compete with South Africa? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 3:55pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
DieVluit: I say they add colours to that thing and sell icecream with it, kids would love to play around with that thing. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:56pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
" The army has been overlooked in recent acquisition programs and is close to finding itself equipped with obsolete equipment in terms of armored personnel carriers, logistics vehicles and main battle tanks South Africa's once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air. Despite this, one element of the air force that did see extensive time in the air was Squadron 21, charged with flying South African VIPs and government ministers. Former defense minister Lindiwe Sisilu booked 203 flights over three years in chartered luxury Gulfstream jets at an estimated cost of $4.5 million. Some 63 of the flights were empty, as they were intended solely to pick the minister up somewhere and take her to another destination in what one opposition critic described as "a staggering waste of money" While government ministers travel in luxury, the South African Air Force (SAAF) still transports troops in 70-year-old Dakota aircraft. One of these, a Dakota C47TP (an upgraded DC-3 with turbine engines) crashed, claiming 11 lives when it was unable to fly above inclement weather. The crash came shortly after the military decided it could no longer afford a maintenance contract for its military aircraft" As we can see, you lack aviation fuel. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 3:57pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
BH is reported to be in possession of thousands of dynamites which they will possibly use to explode prisons, banks, army barracks and police stations. I pity Nigerian soldiers who will be deployed to stop those insurgents. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:01pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: once again you come with comments from other critics who do not have inside information about what is going on. I thought you would quote a minister instead. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 4:01pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
mzilakazi: Don't worry they won't be deployed, their girlfriends will make sure they're not. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:03pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Patchesagain: After going all emotional, it doesn't change the fact the defence industry is 100% white in south-africa. Nigeria isn't competing with anybody, nigeria builds and does what nigeria can afford to manufacture. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:05pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
DieVluit: Deny all you want, it doesn't make it false. It won't change from 100% white. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:06pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: You haven't proved the bold against the fact that Denel is owned by government. You haven't shown how the Igirigi will be less ugly as a result of the bold part. Nigeria does not have the ABILITY to compete with anybody on things APC. It's not a choice. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 4:07pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Henry120: Proof that its 100% white? I have proof that the Igirigi and the Bus APC are 100% ugly. 1 Like |
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