mzilakazi:



Yes that's good. She was actually selling defence review document before the parliament, so that it should receive majority support.

Please tell us another super story as good as this.

DieVluit:


Bwahahahaha, in my office, right next door is a VERY black guy who was on the rooivalk and mokopa projects.

And the Pope sits next to me in the office.

Patchesagain:


Debate is over.

We have given you what you asked for.

Our biggest defence company is Black majority owned and run.

Paramount is 75% owned by a BEE holding group
http://www.eprop.co.za/commercial-property-news/item/6757-Paramount-and-Mvelaphanda-announce-BEE-transaction.html

Paramount Group owns the company that makes the AHRLAC

Whats next?

You now have 2 of our biggest defence companies. Both are black majority owned.

Yet again, this does not change the fact that the IGIRIugugugu is a POS

Boy, you tell too many lies, I can't even keep up.

According to patches689/ patchesagain / liar again.

20% share in a property firm = 70% share in defence.

LMFAO

From your link
Yolanda Cuba, Deputy CEO of Mvelaphanda Group, said “The investment in Paramount will increase Mvelaphanda Group’s exposure to the property and property related sectors.  In Paramount we are investing in a business that has proven itself, and which we hope to be able to grow further in future.”

ChukwuCantDie:
So why is that in all the pics I see of South African engineers, air pilots, high up officials, scientists, doctors, spec op guys etc.. 98% are white? I've even seen more Indians in certain areas of what looks to be your space program, so where are all these amazing blacks you talk of?

They are like Unicorns. They only exist in their demented imaginations.

MikeCZAR:
The Gripen E will be a Swedish fighter. But will have many foreign components. From German, USA, Brazil to South Africa.

The Swedes are designed the thing, to cut development costs and time sub-contractors will supply certain parts.

No Nigerian will even dare say "Half American".

Why would we say half-american. We know the Gripen is a swedish fighter jet.

As for the rooivalk, it is a 90% french helicopter. South-Africa only provided the tires.

mzilakazi:



Your friend buried his head in the sand with shame for saying the same thing you are saying now. If you don't have information about something rather pocket your comment to yourself.

My friend, sharap.

The Defence industry in south-africa is 100%, minority 5% white controlled, run and owned.

This is a fact.

Look at your AAD, I was struggling to see any black boy there.

Deal with it, own it, every night before you go to bed, say thanks to P.W botha, F.W de clerk and their fathers.

Centrifude:

Yeah they probably speak the other languages because we have 11 official Languages, I dare you to go to "Wits University" and designed by Black people, or they played a major role in the development of the weapons.

Lies, lies and more lies.

That thing is done to give you guys the rainbow bla bla bla feel.

You black boys are a bunch of illiterates and never do wells in school.

GreenandGold:


That would be the Igirigi with a foreign chases and foreign armor.

100% nigerian designed, built,manufactured, and fielded.

Henry120:


Lies, lies and more lies.

That thing is done to give you guys the rainbow bla bla bla feel.

You black boys are a bunch of illiterates and never do wells in school.

Like I said go to "Wits University" or any other University that offers Aeronautical Engineering and you will see that you know nothing about South Africa.

look at the S.A.A, Mango Airlines etc.. They have plenty of Black pilots.

You guys must be really d*mb to believe that in 20years South Africa was unable to produce Missile designers, you think that before 1994 no Black person had ever gone to University. and dude many of us work and study our a55es off and do very well at school, I'm an Electrical technology, last year I qualified as an Industrial Electronics Technician, after that I was one of 3 people chosen to teach Basic and Digital Electronics, I thought White guys who were 7-9years older than me, you guys don't know Sh*t about what's happening in S.A

Henry120:


100% nigerian designed, built,manufactured, and fielded.

Its still ugly though...
And we've yet to see a demonstration of it taking a direct hit from a mine, or IED.

Henry120:


100% nigerian designed, built,manufactured, and fielded.

Soweto mofos will buy an APC based on beauty instead of performance because they won't go to war, they need beauty for their Hollywood military photos, THIZA will not mind Honda Accord for military use as long as it looks fine for his photo album
.

Henry120:


Lies, lies and more lies.

That thing is done to give you guys the rainbow bla bla bla feel.

You black boys are a bunch of illiterates and never do wells in school.

Wasted Soweto black generation ruined beyond repair by their Boer white masters
.

Centrifude:


Its still ugly though...
And we've yet to see a demonstration of it taking a direct hit from a mine, or IED.

Weapons are built for war to destroy and be destroyed, not for beauty contest on Nairaland. Mumu.
.

Centrifude:


Its still ugly though...
And we've yet to see a demonstration of it taking a direct hit from a mine, or IED.

It's in the field. Go join them in the field if you want to see how it performs.

It has a Stanag level 2 ballistics protection. It simply means, it isn't an MRAP.

agaugust:


Weapons are built for war to destroy and be destroyed, not for beauty contest on Nairaland. Mumu.
.

Its still UGLY though!!!

:/

Centrifude:


Like I said go to "Wits University" or any other University that offers Aeronautical Engineering and you will see that you know nothing about South Africa.

look at the S.A.A, Mango Airlines etc.. They have plenty of Black pilots.

You guys must be really d*mb to believe that in 20years South Africa was unable to produce Missile designers, you think that before 1994 no Black person had ever gone to University. and dude many of us work and study our a55es off and do very well at school, I'm an Electrical technology, last year I qualified as an Industrial Electronics Technician, after that I was one of 3 people chosen to teach Basic and Digital Electronics, I thought White guys who were 7-9years older than me, you guys don't know Sh*t about what's happening in S.A

"Stories that touch".

Now come get a hug from your Naija brother.

It doesn't however change the fact you are illiterates though.

Henry120:


It's in the field. Go join them in the field if you want to see how it performs.

It has a Stanag level 2 ballistics protection. It simply means, it isn't an MRAP.

Nah I prefer equipment that's been battle tested and considered reliable by more than one person/ Country.

Henry120:


"Stories that touch".

Now come get a hug from your Naija brother.

It doesn't however change the fact you are illiterates though.

You're the illiterates sending your Children to come and study in S.A and be thought by so called illiterates.

And honestly I have nothing to gain from trying to convince you, so whatever you think and say just know that I don't give a F**k!

Centrifude:


Nah I prefer equipment that's been battle tested and considered reliable by more than one person/ Country.

Like the 90% french rooivalk. The 10% is because south-africa provided the helicopter's tires.

Centrifude:


You're the illiterates sending your Children to come and study in S.A and be thought by so called illiterates.

And honestly I have nothing to gain from trying to convince you, so whatever you think and say just know that I don't give a F**k!

Actually, you do.

This is why, you're so Angry and emotional, using swear words.

Nigerians are in Samoa, tonga, st skits and nevis, cape Verde et al. We adventurous like that. Nigerians been in S.A schools shouldn't be an achievement for you.

We school in Iceland, Italy, China, countries that don't even speak english.

Henry120:


Actually, you do.

This is why, you're so Angry and emotional, using swear words.

Nigerians are in Samoa, tonga, st skits and nevis, cape Verde et al. We adventurous like that. Nigerians been in S.A schools shouldn't be an achievement for you.

We school in Iceland, Italy, China, countries that don't even speak english.

Wow adventurous huh is that what you guys call it these days. You're telling me that thousands of Nigerians are so Adventurous that they'd come all the way from Nigeria just to study and be thought by "illiterates" don't twist it Bro S.A has the best Universities in Africa and even after 20yrs of "Black Rule" we are still the best.

Henry120:


Like the 90% french rooivalk. The 10% is because south-africa provided the helicopter's tires.

Yeah typical, going back to the empty claims again, your Igirigi is a horrible, horrible copy of someone elses design I can't believe that you guys even had the gust to call that thing a finished product.

I've got my eye on this thread.

ChukwuCantDie:
Too bad 100% of the people designing these projects don't speak Zulu or Xhosa....you should be ashamed.

They are all south African and that is all that counts

agaugust:


It is the aircraft South Africa copied from overseas and stole glory from the foreigners who designed it for you
.

Which aircraft did we copy?

Dude, don't you ever get tired of telling lies?

agaugust:


Nigeria has 100% capacity to build stealth warships of 2014 modern generation, South Africa CANNOT do it.

Nigeria built bomb detonation Robot, South Africa does not.

Nigeria produces ground attack rocket pods, South Africa does not.

I can agree South Africa is about 5 years ahead of Nigeria in defence industry, and that's only because Nigeria helped you to inherit the Boer whiteman's legacy, infratsructure and technology handed over to you after being fully built by your ex apartheid European race white masters who wasted all your black and coloured peoples destiny in the process, those your wasted illiterate, lazy, and jobless generations are the ones now being fed free food and houses by the new black ANC government as a permanent annual expense that swallows large portion of South African budget, knocking your country into a massive $40 billion foreign debt that your grandchildren will have to repay both principal amount and loan interest.

Nation of wasters and financial prisoners of Europe

.

Nigeria does not build any missiles

Nigeria does not build any artillery

Nigeria does not build AFV's
Nigeria does not build MBTs
Nigeria does not build radio sets
Nigeria does not build advanced drone systems
Nigeria does not build radar systems
Nigeria does not build attack helicopters
Nigeria does not build mine clearance devices
Nigeria does not build MGLs
Nigeria does not build AGLs
Nigeria does not build machine guns
Nigeria does not built sniper rifles
Nigeria did not build anti-material rifles
Nigeria does not build data-links

Nigerian military industrial complex is on the same level as the Syrian and Kurdish Rebels

agaugust:


No, a 100% stolen foreign design and technology
.

Prove it

agaugust:


I have posted all those photos and sources here before. Denying proved facts is the reason I hardly ever comment on this thread again. I am looking for productive and intelligent debates, not time wasting rounds of falsehood.

If the thread is mot worth it anymore, I go off
.

This coming from the biggest liar and fabricator in the thread?

Feel free to leave
Good riddance

Henry120:


Boy, you tell too many lies, I can't even keep up.

According to patches689/ patchesagain / liar again.

20% share in a property firm = 70% share in defence.

LMFAO

From your link
Yolanda Cuba, Deputy CEO of Mvelaphanda Group, said “The investment in Paramount will increase Mvelaphanda Group’s exposure to the property and property related sectors.  In Paramount we are investing in a business that has proven itself, and which we hope to be able to grow further in future.”

Paramount Group

Look it up.

Once you have done just a tiny but of research on the topic I shall deal with your obnoxious claims

Henry120:


Why would we say half-american. We know the Gripen is a swedish fighter jet.

As for the rooivalk, it is a 90% french helicopter. South-Africa only provided the tires.

So let's get this right

Only the engines and gearbox is French
Yet that equals 90% of the Rooivalk ?

Lol what ever you say

Henry120:


My friend, sharap.

The Defence industry in south-africa is 100%, minority 5% white controlled, run and owned.

This is a fact.

Look at your AAD, I was struggling to see any black boy there.

Deal with it, own it, every night before you go to bed, say thanks to P.W botha, F.W de clerk and their fathers.

If it's a fact then please provide a citation

Fact of the matter is that our biggest defence firm is more than 50% black owned and run

Henry120:


100% nigerian designed, built,manufactured, and fielded.

100% trash