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Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 6:24pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Since many users lost track of the entire discussion and we still have not discussed all stereotypes, I decided to open another thread so that more people can partake. Another stereotype, that has not been thoroughly discussed on my other thread, is that men are better leaders. Some people will spontaneously say that it is true and others will disagree. I believe that leadership qualities are NOT determined by gender but rather by our personalities and abilities but a study that has been repeatedly quoted in a number of articles and blogs claims that ... "(...) As far as the 16 researched differentiating leadership competencies are concerned women excelled in a majority of areas." http://www.zfco.com/media/articles/ZFCo.WP.WomenBetterThanMen.033012.pdf And another research proves that ... "More women at the top, higher returns Researchers have long found ties between having women on a company's board of directors and better financial performance. Now, a new report from Credit Suisse offers more evidence that a better gender mix among senior managers is linked with better results. While many academics and other firms have conducted similar studies, the report released Tuesday by Credit Suisse may very well be the largest of its kind. The bank's research arm has created a database that will track the gender mix of some 28,000 executives at 3,000 companies in 40 countries around the world on an ongoing basis. The report then compared that data to the financial results of the companies. What it found: better performance for companies that have women on the board (just as it found last time). But the bank also looked at women not on the board, and saw a link between companies with more female executives and higher returns on equity, higher valuations, better stock performance and higher payouts of dividends." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-leadership/wp/2014/09/24/more-women-at-the-top-higher-returns/ 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 6:42pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
I really would like to read the females response to this thread. Especially females that believe men should be the head of the family. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 6:44pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
BananaBender: You are back ............. finally. ![]() |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Mynd44: 6:57pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 6:59pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by humilitypays(m): 7:27pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
BananaBender:Being head of a family is different from being head of: an organisation, a society, etc. It is natural for a man to be the head of the family; doesn't mean that women can't also lead the family, they can but if the husband is alive, he should. So don't bring in family leadership into this because its a diff thing entirely. 3 Likes |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 7:31pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
humilitypays: How is being the head of a family different from being the head of an organization? If there can be two or more leaders in an organization, why can't there be two leaders in a family? Why is it natural for a man to be the head of the family? Why should the husband be the sole leader? Thanks for your answers in advance. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 7:33pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
BananaBender:don't you believe men should be head? |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Fkforyou(m): 7:35pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Well,I missed the other thread, I intend to follow this one dilligently. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 7:37pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
^^ Welcome! |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by humilitypays(m): 7:47pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:family is a diff type of institution from other institutions/orgs, in the sense that others are governed by laid down constitution, bi-laws, etc whereas family has no formal constitution that everyone must follow, that's one. No institution can have 2 equal leaders; one must be higher than the other- e.g, prime minister vs president, prime minister vs queen or king, etc. Same way, no ship can have two captains, else the ship is destined to wreck. Why should the husband be the sole leader? He isn't the sole leader; the wife is also part of the family leadership, but just as some countries have prime minister and president with diff level of power, healthy family should have a good wife and a good husband who understands their limits and powers. Pls I'm not arguing your opinion; if u would like to be the leader of your marriage and your husband agrees and it works for you guys, that's awesome, but I think it is natural and healthier for a man to be the head of a family. Thanks 5 Likes |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 7:58pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
humilitypays: Thanks for your answer. I don't think you are arguing my opinion. Let us not make it personal. We are discussing the topic here, not our relationships / families. You say that a family cannot be compared to any organization but then you compare it to other organizations (state, business) to explain why a man should be the head. This is a contradiction. Well, I will take up your comparisons to discuss leadership in families. You say that a country has got one Prime Minister so there should also be one leader in a family. A democratically elected Prime Minister or President cannot do whatever he wants. He needs to be democratically elected and his or her decisions need the support of his or her cabinet and even that of other parties in the parliament. He needs the majority of the votes in parliament. Who authorizes a husband's decisions? Who controls his power and how? You say that no institution can have two equal leaders but this is not true. There are plenty of successful companies with more than two equal leaders. Coca Cola, for example, has more than one CEO. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by humilitypays(m): 8:19pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:Wife can challenge husband's decisions. Children also do, if they are of age. In my own family, my mum does have a big say in my father's decisions, and we the offspring also contribute and sometimes challenge my father's decisions, and he takes corrections where necessary. In a healthy family setting, the husband doesn't operate like a tyrant, he carries every family member along. Except you're talking about bad husbands, but good husbands don't rule their families, they lead them. Coca Cola has CEOs in different locations; there can never be two CEOs in one location of plant. For instance, Coca Cola in Africa is now under CC Hellenic, a South African firm, and they have one CEO in SA, with country CEOs in various locations. No institution in the world has two equal leaders leading at the same time; there will be clash of power, inefficiency in management due to poor decision making. Its not possible! One must be higher than the other for peace to reign. 4 Likes |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 8:36pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
humilitypays: How can a wife challenge her husband's decisions? In a healthy family setting, the husband doesn't operate like a tyrant, he carries every family member along. How do husbands lead? And why doesn't the wife lead the family too? Coca Cola has CEOs in different locations; there can never be two CEOs in one location of plant. Please check this article. Why Major Companies Like Oracle, Whole Foods, And Chipotle Have 2 CEOs Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-major-companies-have-2-ceos-2014-9#ixzz3IDyMTEnW No institution in the world has two equal leaders leading at the same time; there will be clash of power, inefficiency in management due to poor decision making. Not true. Aldi, a leading global discount supermarket was founded and run by two brothers for many years, successfully, obviously. Its not possible! One must be higher than the other for peace to be peace. See Aldi again. Anyway. Let us say, there must be only ONE leader. Why does it have to be the man? |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 10:28pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
humilitypays:what determines if a person is fit to be a leader is his/her leadership skills not gender ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by iykedare(m): 11:02pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by EfemenaXY: 11:13pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by cococandy(f): 11:15pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
Following. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Stillfire: 11:47pm On Nov 05, 2014 |
iykedare: Stop being emotional. 4 Likes |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 6:03am On Nov 06, 2014 |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by freecocoa(f): 6:36am On Nov 06, 2014 |
I hope we don't lose track of the topic on this one too. |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Nobody: 6:49am On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by LewsTherin: 7:04am On Nov 06, 2014 |
There are many gender stereotypes I do not agree with. A good number of them are based on cultures. However, contrary to most people's belief, cultures and customs change. Once upon a time, it was tradition to wear particular animal hides during particular ceremonies. Today we wear particular cloth types for ceremonies that are very different from what we practiced then. Once, Chaka Zulu, the same great Chaka Zulu ordered his soldiers to train bare feet. Today any army that cannot provide proper boots for its troops will loose a war. Go ask Napoleon. My point is that as things change, as knowledge expands, as societal requirements evolve, cultures and traditions will change as well. Ergo, gender stereotypes based on culture and tradition are as usefull to me as a situation warrants. If the situation doesn't warrant, I can't be bothered and I don't agree with said stereotypes. That said, there are stereotypes that I will not change, that should not change because of how and why they were instituted. I am a Christian in more than name. 1 Corinthians 11:3, Genesis 3:16, Ephesians 5:22, 5:25 all give the reasons why the male is the head of the house hold. It is so, because for reasons best known to God, He chose it to be so. But we should realise that the same God that made the husband head of the home is the same God that said the husband should head said home THE WAY CHRIST DOES HIS ie with love and servitude and honour and respect and regard and care. Christ is not an iron fisted dictator. He is a caring father. Do you realise He was almost always debating with His disciples? He always explained His reasons, He listened to their opinions, He valued their contributions even though He was God. Irrespective of whatever society says, whatever culture and traditions say, I do what my God says. For me, my Lady makes as many decisions as I do, as is needed. But where there is a tie breaker required, as head, I make it. But I do not sit with the morning's paper giving commands and instructions while she slaves in the kitchen, with the laundry, with the cleaning and still expect a great night afterwards. That is not Christian. Worse, that is not even leadership. |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by pickabeau1: 7:58am On Nov 06, 2014 |
The said world changing article in full On Thursday, Oracle's Larry Ellison unexpectedly announced that he was stepping down from his CEO post and naming not one, but two CEOs to replace him. Co-president and CFO Safra Catz and co-president Mark Hurd will share the role of CEO. 1 Like |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Mynd44: 8:01am On Nov 06, 2014 |
pickabeau1:Great insight. But will it work in the Nigerian setting where ego and arrogance seems to be a more potent driving force than collective good and success? 2 Likes |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by pickabeau1: 8:02am On Nov 06, 2014 |
Mynd44: What is insightful about the article What i see it that co ceo is at best a fanciful arrangement that works in certain cultures(Europe) and used for crises situations |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by An0nimus: 8:02am On Nov 06, 2014 |
Here we go again... popcorn anyone? |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by EfemenaXY: 8:04am On Nov 06, 2014 |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Mynd44: 8:06am On Nov 06, 2014 |
pickabeau1:Well people are trying to draw up similarities between financial organizations and the home. |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by pickabeau1: 8:07am On Nov 06, 2014 |
Mynd44: Ok..anyone can draw anything I ask u What is insightful about the article |
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by An0nimus: 8:11am On Nov 06, 2014 |
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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part II by Mynd44: 8:11am On Nov 06, 2014 |
pickabeau1:Two CEOs in one company. I have never thought of it, I still dont see how much it will work perhaps cos I have being programmed into the believe in one overall boss. Might just be my inexperience though |
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