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13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 7:46pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
1. "Atheism isn't a belief, but the lack of a belief." This is what I call the "single definition" of atheism. It is the cornerstone of most atheistic defenses. Atheists like to use this definition because they feel that it protects them from certain criticisms from Christians and other theists. For example, if atheism is a lack of a belief, then atheists can't be criticized for believing anything. This simple idea is a powerful weapon for atheists on message boards. It is, however, wrong. Since there is (currently) no scientifically verifiable evidence to support either side of the God question, both theism and atheism have to be called beliefs. Just as theism is a belief that there is a God, atheism is the belief that there isn't. Atheism, therefore, is not immune to the criticisms that other belief systems might draw. 2. "Atheism is not a-or has no-philosophy." This is not true. Atheists believe that there is no God. Therefore, they believe that all decisions made by the individual, the family and the government should be made without regard to religious dogma. That is a philosophy. This is true regardless of anecdotal incidents when atheists, for ulterior motives, say that it's okay for certain people to believe in God, e.g., "I'm in favor of the citizens of such-and-such country believing in God if it will keep them from slaughtering each other." These are actually exceptions that prove the rule, since they are always under unusual circumstances. The basic atheistic philosophy remains intact. Even when an atheist says, "I don't care if other people believe in God or not," he's merely expressing an isolationist viewpoint toward a philosophy that he still applies to himself. Otherwise, he wouldn't be an atheist, for no atheist will follow any religious dogma. 3. "Atheism is supported by science." Again, this is not true. Because no scientifically verifiable evidence exists on either side of the God question, science can't even address the issue, let alone reach any conclusion. 4. "Atheism is supported by logic." Not only is this wrong, just the opposite is true. In logic, it's impossible to prove a negative, that is, prove that a God Who Can Do Anything doesn't exist. When someone claims he is an atheist, he is in effect claiming to have proven a negative (at least to himself)-which is a logical impossibility. In terms of pure logic, the only viable alternative to theism is actually agnosticism, which is the belief that the existence of God cannot be known. But atheism runs counter to logic. 5. "The burden of proof is on theists." No, it isn't. While the burden of proof might vary depending on whether you're talking about science or law, in almost all instances, the burden of proof lies with the deviation from the norm. A man who claims he can run a mile in one minute-while the world's best atheletes can't break the three-minute mark-has the burden of proving that he can do it. Right now, about 90% of the world's population believes there is a Supreme Being. Plus, throughout known history-even back to the days of the caveman-humans have believed in some sort of God. These points are enough to clearly establish theism as the normal state. It is therefore up to atheists to make their case for the deviation. 6. "There is no evidence to support a belief in God." Yes, there is. Testimonial evidence abounds. Millions claim that God has touched their hearts, cured their illnesses and improved their lives. Atheists refuse to acknowledge this evidence, because they accept only scientifically verifiable evidence. This is a restriction that they have chosen to place upon themselves, yet they demand that others do the same thing, which is ridiculous. Atheists say that human testimony can't be trusted because human senses can't be trusted. The fact that this twisted logic effectively discounts all life experiences doesn't seem to phase atheists in the least. It's yet another example of how atheism shuts down the mind. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by UyiIredia(m): 7:50pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Reasons are right on the money. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by cdamsel(f): 7:51pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
FrancisTony:Na una dey make them popular Leave them to their believes & stop trying to psycho analyse them |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 7:53pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
7. "Theists should believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn." This is in reference to something called the Invisible Pink Unicorn Argument, an amusing little ditty that atheists enjoy bringing up from time to time. The argument says that, since theists have no evidence that God exists, then they can't discount the existence of other "fictitious" Gods, such as-you guessed it-the Invisible Pink Unicorn. On closer examination, this argument actually goes against atheists. As I mentioned above, theists accept the testimony of others as valid evidence for the existence of God. Literally millions of people believe in God, pray to Him, worship Him, and claim that He has cured their illnesses and changed their lives. This can't be said of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, so theists don't believe in it. On the other hand, since atheists reject testimonial evidence, it is they-and not theists-who can't distinguish between the Unicorn and God. 8. "Religion is the major cause of war." This is historically incorrect. When it comes to the causes of war, religion comes after politics, economics, territory, natural resources and greed. World leaders who want war have often tried to rally support from their people by tying the effort to their religious beliefs, but that has nothing to do with the real reasons for their wanting to go to war. 9. "The crusades and the inquisition show that Christianity is evil." In any organization, there is the potential for corruption. Those events took place at a time when the Bible was kept under lock and key within the walls of the church. The public was not allowed to read it and had to depend on their priests to do all Biblical interpretations. This was a system that bred corruption. Dishonest priests would pander to dishonest rulers, and the result was sometimes anything but religious. I agree with historians who say that, had the Bible been available to the public, those events would've never been allowed to happen. 10. "The majority of prisoners/criminals are theists." This is a bogus argument for two reasons: (1) Since 90% of the population is theistic, it's not statistically surprising that the majority of people in any given institution would be theists. (2) The relevant surveys, taken within prison walls, are unreliable since prisoners are known to give answers that they feel will put them in the best light in the eyes of prison officials in particular and the public in general. They know it's not going to help their chances for parole if they claim to reject God, so they say they are theists. 11. "Christians have a higher divorce rate than do atheists." Atheists who use this argument think that it illustrates how hypocritical Christians are. But in reality, it shows just the opposite. Atheists believe that morality is relative, that is, there is no absolute "good" or "bad" behavior. Atheists therefore get to make up their own morals to fit whatever lifestyle they desire. For example, if an atheistic husband finds out his wife has been cheating on him, he has the option of deciding that cheating is okay. The two of them might even decide to have an "open marriage," in which both parties can freely enjoy extramarital affairs. With a morality that can be changed to suit any set of circumstances, atheists have fewer reasons to seek a divorce. Christians, on the other hand, receive their morality from God via the Bible. Those morals can't be augmented to suit the whims of the moment. Infidelity and other such offenses are taken very seriously. After doing what he can to save a marriage, sometimes a Christian literally has to choose between following God or sticking with a spouse who wants to pursue an ungodly lifestyle. Sometimes divorce is the only answer. So, it is because of high Christian values-and not hypocrisy-that the divorce rate is higher among Christians, while atheists have fewer divorces because of their changeable standards of morality. 12. "Atheists do good deeds because it's the right thing to do, while Christians do them because they want to get to heaven." Both sides of this statement are wrong. Atheists believe in the evolutionary theory that everything a person does can be linked to either the drive to survive or the drive to reproduce. And they do mean everything. They believe that a child loves his mother because the mother is needed for survival; a man loves a woman because she can help him reproduce; people do good deeds because it keeps them from being killed by those who might otherwise dislike them; etc. Christians, on the other hand, do good deeds through the compassion that is taught in the Bible. Going to heaven is simply the icing on the cake. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by JackBizzle: 7:55pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Another christian TOOLBAG copies and pastes LIES. YAWN. FrancisTony, you need common-sense! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 7:58pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
13. "Can your all-powerful God create a rock that is too heavy for Him to move?" If you answer, "No," then the atheist will reply, "Then your God can't create such a rock and therefore isn't all-powerful." If you answer, "Yes," then the atheist will reply, "Then your God won't be able to move the rock and therefore isn't all-powerful." I've read a few long and complicated "answers" to this apparent dilemma, but the fact is, the question itself is problematic, much like the question, "Can God run and walk at the same time?" or even the often-quoted statement, "Everything I say is a lie." (If everything I say is a lie, then that statement itself is a lie, so I must therefore be telling the truth. But if I'm telling the truth, then everything I say must be a lie, and we're back to square one.) All three examples illustrate the limitations of the human mind and its logic. The "rock" question doesn't say anything about the nature of God nor His power, but our own inability to comprehend something that is beyond our understanding. I will probably periodically add to this list, so stay tuned. http://goodtothosewholovegod.weebly.com/13-flaws-of-atheism.html 1 Like |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 7:58pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
JackBizzle: so you think you have common sense? |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by JackBizzle: 7:59pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:01pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
cdamsel: Lol. I saw the article somewhere and wanted to share. That's what spice this section sha. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:03pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Elantracey: Are you minding that dude? That's a muslim dude alternate account. The same person that was disguising as a christian on our chat thread. He just exposed himself. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:05pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
OP, prove to me there is God. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:14pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Billyonaire: Read my Original Post. Millions of people have proved it through the testimony of what God has done in their life but you'll ne'er accept it. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:19pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
FrancisTony:I dont need testimony, I need a proof that there is God. Now its difficult, isnt it ? 1 Like |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 8:20pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Billyonaire: We have passed this level here. Anything you want to believe that's your business. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 8:21pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
honourhim:No we havent. Now its been 2 persons, not even able to prove that there is God. Okay, proof to me there is Satan. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by honourhim: 8:22pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
FrancisTony: Bro leave that guy to believe whatever he wants. You ve made your points. God bless you. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Pr0ton: 9:06pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Just number 1. Whoever wrote that number is low of understand and critical thinking. Worst is, he becomes a fool when he makes his foolly public, and you, francistony, are not different from this madman. Whenever again you meet the madman ask him whether he made a mistake by saying 13flaws of "atheism". Ask him if he really understood the word in quote before concluding on posting scraps. Another is, ask him what rational atheist couldn't disprove the existence of God when he requested for it. If you think disproving the existence of God isn't possible then I suggest you have your brain and common sense examined. So you ask me to disprove it. It's simple. First, what brought the knowledge of God? The holy books. Cool. Easy. Once you can debunked these books (which already have), then you debunk and disprove the existence of God. If remaining a deist is your alternative, that's just irrational. Where do you get your idea of God from? Just a wishful thinking. An atheist remains neutral and lives his life 3 Likes |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by JackBizzle: 9:07pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
FrancisTony: Whatever lies you spout about me, it doesnt change the fact that you copied and pasted nonsense. You lack creativity and original thought. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by JackBizzle: 9:10pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
FrancisTony: Human testimony? Do you accept my muslim testimony that Allah is the one and true God and that he decrees that no one should drink alcohol? 4 Likes |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Pr0ton: 9:18pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
JackBizzle: Nice one there. The OP is confused about his life. He doesn't know where he belongs to. 3 Likes |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by JackBizzle: 9:22pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Pr0ton: Dont mind him. All he knows how to do is copy and paste 3 Likes |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Ramon92: 9:39pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
I'm not an atheist or a muslim, neither a Christian. But those points up there lack critical thinking and it's too shallow. For every flaw you find in non faith based religions, there are two or more counter flaws waiting. They won't realise that cos of their shallow way of thinking.. 1 Like |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by malvisguy212: 9:42pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Billyonaire:so you think God will just come and reavel Himself to a dirty mind like us? They only two option you have is the testimony of a witness or you confessed the word of God(jesus). |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by JackBizzle: 9:43pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
malvisguy212: God revealed himself to Moses and co in the bible......didnt he? Or are Nigerians somehow less holy than old school Jews |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by malvisguy212: 9:49pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
JackBizzle:they were raised in a Godly family, they worship God before God revealed himself to them. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Pr0ton: 9:53pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Don't forget how God revealed Himself to Paul "who was on his way to Damascus to persecute the Christians". 1 Like |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Pr0ton: 9:54pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
malvisguy212: And remember that Moses grew up in Pharoah's own family. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 10:13pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
JackBizzle: Rilwayne? 1) I'm talking about real-life testimony i.e happening ones not quaran or bible own. 2) Christianiaty came before Islam. Muhammed did copy and paste. 3) I've experienced christian testimonies and wonders by myself. 4) You're confused because your question is doubting Allah's existence. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 10:15pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Pr0ton: Argumentum ad-hominem. I smashed a groin. Attack my argument/point not me. |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by Nobody: 10:22pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Ramon92: I am waiting for you to debunk those points with your broadened-way of reasoning. By the way, you're what? |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by davien(m): 10:24pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Francistony I dub thee the copy-paste lord http://goodtothosewholovegod.weebly.com/13-flaws-of-atheism.html such "flaws" were shown to be dishonest and false since 05'. http://atheist-seeker..com.es/2005/07/theists-13-biggest-flawed.html?m=1 1 Like |
Re: 13flaws Of Atheism by herald9: 10:25pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
You'll argue till infinity... it changes nothing... better go get busy |
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