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Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 1:25pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
olapluto: BUHARI MUST BE SPEAKING FROM 2 SIDES OF HIS MOUTH, HE CANT BE TRUSTED. THE SAME BUHARI THAT SAID OPENLY HE WONT CONTEST FOR PRESIDENCY AGAIN IN 2011. HE HAS NO INTEGRITY. BUHARI WHO CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NIGER DELTA MILITANTS AND BOKO HARAM WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE THE PRESIDENT ? https://www.nairaland.com/1952794/stop-killing-boko-haram-members |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 1:27pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
gangar: My Dear i am not a soothsayer but i can tell what the solution will be. Let me ask you, do you think Niger Delta Milatants and Boko Haram are the same? But Buhari thinks they are the same and will treat them the say way Niger delta militants were treated. Guess how i know https://www.nairaland.com/1952794/stop-killing-boko-haram-members |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Pataki: 1:30pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
pentagonal:LOL! Aka zoologist, aka mumurideen, aka AbdulClueless the shoeless one, aka retardeeen1 of Otuoke. 2 Likes |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 1:31pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Pataki:PLS APC is still the same party with a different name. Was AMECHI who is a major financier of APC not from PDP ? |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by pentagonal: 1:36pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Pataki: hahhaaaaaa egbon shey you attend the otueke re...tard naming ni??you know the dolt nikky pass mama piss self. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by ideology(m): 1:38pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
APC Is Not The Opposition Nigeria Needs -#OPINION Nigeria have come along way in its political struggles for independence and democracy. After independence was eventually achieved in 1960, the fight to sustain democracy continued. Being thwarted by the military, by various forms of coups and election cancellation in 1993; the death of Gen. Sanni Abacha in 1998 eventually paved way for the present democratic settings. Democracy as simply defined as a form of government in which the supreme power is in the people, have been the most successful form of governance in recent centuries. Yes, it is true that Nigeria as a Nation have not gotten there at the moment, but We are hopeful that with time and awareness this will become a reality.
Read up https://www.nairaland.com/1982815/apc-not-opposition-nigeria-needs |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mcino: 1:43pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
This op is intelligent and has been able to follow up his post with classifications. I had always known that hide who answer Emeka are rare breeds who likely see far ahead of others. His seed planting analogy has not been countered intelligibly. How can somebody be proposing Buhari as an alternative to Jonathan? Only bigotry can fuel that. Buhari had been proven to be corrupt, weak, religious extremist, power hungry, greedy, selfish and bigoted. He cannot preside over a secular Nigeria |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Pataki: 1:46pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mekaboy:So APC is PDP? APC has been the party ruling since 1999? Or Amaechi was one of the founding fathers of APC? Are you OK? |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 1:56pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Pataki: LOL, Bros when you say founding fathers, it makes it sound like men of integrity. Who are the founding fathers? Tinubu ? Politics today is Business, the more money you bring the higher your position in the party. Amechi is now a founding father because as far as APC is concerned he is a FUNDING father, so is TINUBU. This is the only way i can put it to you. APC says pdp is a demon, that their actions are demonic. They claim Nigeria needs to be delivered from the demon PDP. Now you allow the PDP demon to into your party, that means APC is now possessed by the same demon in PDP. How do u expect APC to act when dey take over, when they have been possessed by the PDP demon ? |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Ovamboland(m): 2:43pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
EldaTimba: And what does suicide bombing or otherwise has to do with confronting insurgencies competently? Was the insurgencies in th Niger -Delta contained free of charge to the government because suicide bombing was not involved. It seems the Jonathan style of thinking is the lot of his supporters. If you need lectures on what foreign reserve means open O'level economics text book or consult Google, and you can tell it is not an asset and of little or no consequence as an economic performance indices |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by jamace(m): 2:44pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
barcanista:Please answer this: https://www.nairaland.com/1986454/when-last-time-buhari-attended#27821348 |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by jamace(m): 2:45pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Lordlexyy:Read this: https://www.nairaland.com/1986454/when-last-time-buhari-attended#27821348 |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Rexnegro(m): 2:52pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mekaboy:U re so wrong bro...as far as freedom of association still remains in our constitution then people re free to associate with whoever,however and whenever they want...so forget the issue of pdp members defecting to apc..its shows maybe they re so tired of lies and propaganda embedded in pdp since 1999 or they just feel they see apc has a better party and since they have the right to associate with who they want hence then the defection. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 2:57pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Rexnegro: The same lies and corruption in PDP that got them to where they are today, gotten the wealth they have today and then go to fund another righteous political party ? Did they become members of PDP today, did they just realize PDP lies? Please wake up if you think the defection to APC is in for the interest of Nigerians. Its just for their selfish political interest . After using PDP lies to climb the lather then u see APC as a better party ? They are even worse than PDP because they are manipulators, using a party for selfish interest and dumps the party for another. Just look at ATIKU who has been running from party to party since, do u think it is in the interest of Nigeria or himself ? Fine there is freedom of association, but the ideology and methodology should be different. If a PDP member can easily blend into APC then APC has no ideology. Their primary goal is to take over power by all means. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by gists: 2:59pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Djicemob: Jaundiced reasoning. Even if APC is only able to achieve peace, it would have achieved 1000 time better than your clueless brain-dead fedola hat wearing m0ron. We can and we have waited for constant power supply for decades, yet we continue our lives and buy our own personal generators. So many of us are not bordered about lack of gej's capacity and sincerity to provide constant electricity. We can and we have waited for good roads for decades. Many of us lucky enough have found a way around it with our personal jeep vehicles. So we are not bothered about the lack of this government and its predecessors to provide smooth roads. Many Nigerians have given up on our local schools. We spend millions of dollars to get quality education in foreign countries. Same goes for medical care. All these we have been used to and not really holding gej responsible for not correcting this abnormality. But the major thing we are holding against him today is the introduction of insecurity at a scale never seen before. And to make matters worse, he doesn't seem to care! We have waited for decades for the aforementioned social facilities and we are used to waiting (unfortunately) but can we wait for security? Today, BH has seized a sizable chunk of Nigeria and it is said that the people living under BH-controlled territory is more that the total population of some countries. Let's not forget that the Chief of Defence Staff - the commander in charge of the army, navy and air-force evacuated his family and fled that territory a few days (or is it hours before the attach by BH) without adequate logistics for his men to battle the terrorists. The CDS and other security chives if you don't know is appointed by the president. Today the CDS and none of other top army chief has been fired. In fact the president is more concerned about the Tambuwal's defection to APC than to the plight of the people living under captivity. So if APC wins and all they are able to achieve is to restore security which by the way is the primary responsibility of a government, then it would have achieved 1000 more than whatever the clueless skelewu dancing a$s-hole who think common stealing is not corruption. As to whether apc is behind the insecurity. This is actually a big opportunity for the ediots in asso rock. He controls all the millitary and intelligent appartus in the country. Why not witch-hunt them with DSS/SSS et al and you will see that Nigerians (SW. SS and SE) will applaud him PROVIDED THE SSS AND CO PROVIDE UNDENIABLE PROVES THAT THE "WITCH-HUNTED INDIVIDUALS" ARE ACTUALLY BEHIND BH. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Lordlexyy: 3:04pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mekaboy:How else does the General prove how transparent he is if not through our collective mandate to vote him. Don't forget, a honest man remain a honest man be it in the military or in the civilian gov't. Also, the legislators are there to checkmate whatever excesses you are afraid of. As it stands now, none of the contenders competing with the General can match his records. If only we purge ourselves of presumtions base on lies, you will realise who is the better candidate. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 3:23pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
gists: Have you ever bodered to ask yourself why the insecurity increased this much ? When people say they will make and administration ungovernable and other say if peaceful change cannot be achieved then force is the alternative. And how do u think the solution will be provided? Is it not by treating Boko haram like Niger Delta militants which they are not. Granting them the full implementation of sharia sacrificing the freedom of non muslims in the north.https://www.nairaland.com/1945488/buhari-calls-total-sharia-nigeria. A kind of peace that will sacrifice the freedom of others is not peace. We dont want peace, we want equal rights and justice. That is The reason for must of the violence u see in Nigeria. Probably because some Regions or Religions claim to be more superior than other. http://lindaikeji..com/2013/10/if-youre-going-to-kano-watch-what-you.html If i am not a muslim in Nigeria, i cant drink alcohol in some part of Nigeria http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/11/sharia-police-smash-240000-bottles-beer-kano/ . What is the difference between what Boko Haram is asking for and what buhari called for ? Isnt that the same reason APC cannot present a Norther christian candidate ? Isn't that the same reason why no mosque has ever been bombed since Boko Haram started while churches are bombed daily ? Why do you think Buhari is popular in the North, Because Those misguided muslim youths still believe he can implement full sharia in the whole Nigeria as he called for in the past. That is why the kill when he looses an election . I know the 3rd world war will be religious but let it not start in Nigeria. So dont compare what Niger deltans fought for and what boko haram is fighting for. The did not have to sacrifice the freedom of other to achieve theirs . So the cause and root of insecurity in Nigeria is deeper than ur eyes can see. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Djicemob: 3:25pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
gists:You didnt even answer my question,all you did was write an epistle throwing curses at GEJ, And That is the problem with APC supporters,quick to throw critism everywhere but dont even know what they are coming to power to do.Are you saying APC was created to tackle the security issues only? |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 3:27pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Lordlexyy: Honest man in deed. Show me your friends and i will tell u who you are. Buhari who worked under abacha and saw all that went wrong and yet turned a blind eye and claimed he is innocent. https://www.nairaland.com/607825/abacha-never-stole-say-buhari |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by ideology(m): 3:49pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mekaboy:I love free thinkers. Over 70% of these dudes have been PDP members for at least 8years. While the polity favoured them, they silently enjoyed, now its not favouring their course, PDP becomes evil. No stress yourself, APC can't rule this country not after abusing the office of the president. After 2015, they will dissolve and pursue their courses as before, most of them will return to PDP. And make the same statement, there is freedom of movement APC IS NOT AN OPTION FOR NIGERIA https://www.nairaland.com/1982815/apc-not-opposition-nigeria-needs INSTEAD OF THEM TO FOCUS AND TELL US WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO AND HOW, THEY ARE BUSY HURTING PDP AND GEJ. I can boldly tell you international community don't like APC's mode of operation. Their body language clearly shows they celebrate chaos, violence and insurgents |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Lordlexyy: 4:24pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mekaboy:Emeka, stop going round the circle. Focus on his good works instead of the petty reasons that hold no substance. How could the General possibly fight Abacha? The capacity he served under Abacha, he was adjudged to have done well. He left there with a clean, undented slate. What more could anyone ask for. It is on record that all the positions he ever held, he proved himself worthy of commendation and trust. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by gists: 4:52pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
@mekaboy Why are you people always reasoning upside down. You accused apc and buhari of sponsoring bh. Let us assume for a moment that you guys are right and so I will ask you this question: With the military and interlligent services under gej, why is it so hard to gather enough evidence and throw the sponsors of bh behind bar and throw away the keys? After all that will demolish apc and pave the way for smooth return to the office for the drunkard fisherman. The CDS fled mubi just before bh took over, yet the president is more concerned about who takes over the mantle of leadership in the house of rep. all the people that promised to make the country ungovernable are all members of pdp. have you asked your self why senator ndume (pdp senate member that always had information about the where-about of the chibok girls) was tried secretly? As at today no apc member has been accused of sponsoring bh. the only set of people accusing apc are your likes beclouded with bigotry and prejudice. all the arrests made so far (which we hear nothing about a few days after) have connections with pdp members. since according to you the northern muslims are the brain behind bh, why is sheriff who was accoused by davis yet to be questioned let alone arrested. If you don't know he moves freely with the C-n-C (coward-n-chief). And to your bigotted mind, until the mosque is bombed before you know that bh is an enemy to all. You have not heard (or pretend you didn't hear) that the bh just kill randomly without discriminating who is xtian, muslim, hausa, fulanit,tiv, igbo, yoruba? You are just concerned about putting the blame on the opposition and generally criminalise all northern muslims and never bother to question those who have been saddled/entrusted with the responsibility of providing security. @ Djicemob The only card i see APC playing is the card on security and nothing else.Wait! Is peace the only thing APC are coming on board to offer nigerians? Why else would someone not feel that the APC are behind the current security issues and why it continues to linger and flourish.Lets assume there was no security threat in nigeria,does it mean the APC would be manifesto-less?I have told you peace is the one thing that we cannot wait for. Yes apc has manifesto and peace is just one of many others parts of it. But of what good is a manifesto is you don't have peace? The people in the bh controlled territory, do you think they give a fvck if Nigeria is the biggest economy? And by the way, is this inscurity what pdp has in its manifesto? We are talking about securing Nigerian lives and all you are concerned about is the content of manifesto SHM. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 4:53pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Lordlexyy:You are either part of the Solution or you are part of the problem . You see someone stealing from another persons pocket and you refuse to notify the person that is being stolen from, and when the victim starts accusing the theif of stealing from his pocket , you come out and say he is not guilty. You are as guilty as a theif, you are a false witness. What do you mean how can he fight abacha, it is better to die a hero than live a coward for the rest of ur life. So that means if others in his govt start to steal you ask how can he fight them. So he prefers to watch abacha steal what bellongs to millions of Nigerians and priase him than tell Nigerians the truth? What kind of honest man will watch such evil go on under his nose and not do anything about it. Why wont he have a clean record under abacha when he did not try to stop the corruption going on ? How do you know he did not benefit from it? Do u know buhari more than Babangida who threatened to expose him ? Now you are talking about works. Did i not state early that GEJ has planted seeds, in the area of electricity, rail transport, Agriculture etc. Nigeria has been in decay for years all thanks to the military regime which Buhari was part of. You expect Gej to turn it around in a 6yrs ? There are other leaders who died fighting for their people, some even went to jail for speaking the truth. I would vote fella for president than buhari . Fella was a more honest man than buhari . |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Djicemob: 4:55pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
gists:So in essence APC has no manifesto? |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by aurenflani: 5:22pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Djicemob: Please are you saying that the insecurity in the nation is not real? God have mercy on us. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by Tokunbohkinibig: 5:35pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
@Mekaboy, please, take your history book and do some research about Nigerian history. I strongly believe that at the end of your research, you would eventually agree with me that Jonathan administration represent nothing but a total failure. Realistically, if you ask Nigerians to pick between Abacha regime and Jonathan administration as today, in a fair poll, trust me, you would be shocked and surprised that 80% of Nigerians will gladly choose Abacha regime. let me repeat this again, this present insurgency is not as bad as what any past governments had experienced during their reigns in power. what simply make difference was how the past insurgencies were severely dealt with and crushed. You know what, We are talking about militants holding the entire country into ransom by kidnapping foreign expatriates, killing the same Nigerian uniformed men and women- police and army as well as blowing our pipelines........ |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by gists: 5:45pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Djicemob:Go a get eye glasses to aid your reading. To aid your sight read the bolded part with magnifying glass if necessary. @ Djicemob And you fail to address my question in red fonts |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 6:02pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
gists: Kindly share with us how APC will bring the lasting peace. I am not accusing anyone of sponsoring, i am just stating those who made statements that encouraged violence in the region http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/atiku-talks-tough-warns-of-violent-change-/71993/ https://www.nairaland.com/938100/dog-baboon-soaked-blood-buhari Sherif you talk about was an APC member before joining PDP, he knows more about the sect and has tried as we see to broker a peace deal, But unfortunately the sect has grown beyond expectation. The information he has about the Sect is an asset to curbing the excesses of the insurgents. Please let us know how APC will provide peace, and dont tell me when they take over power . don't keep your solution a secret and wait till your party member becomes president Like Buhari and Atiku who have solutions but must first be elected president. We thought the bringbackourgirls campaign was all about Nigerians and the girls till the APC members openly declared that they where the ones sponsoring the protests, and using this a means to score political points. http://www.channelstv.com/2014/10/23/audu-ogbeh-apologises-to-bring-back-our-girls-campaigners/ So you can see that APC is not about Nigeria, its about selfish interests. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 6:12pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Tokunbohkinibig: You are right, the level of insurgency today is great because What we have today is religious and political. Nigerians never had suicide bombers who will kill themselves and others. So the former approach wont walk. You can only defeat an enemy when you are united against them. Nigeria is not united against boko haram, because some want to use the attacks to score cheap political points, other claim its not their business since they dont live in the region. And some sympatize with them and claim they are just like every other militant group fighting for their right. How can we defeat them with this kind of reasoning. This is an enemy within, it will be wrong for u or any sane Nigerian to believe that Boko Haram insurgents and Niger delta militants are the same. You share the same view with buhari on this situation which is very wrong. We cant defeat them as a nation if we keep thinking this way. When there is an attack on US soil,whoever attacks is an enemy of the nation and everyone is out to fight them. But here in Nigeria, when there is an attack some just sit back and blame the president. Others ask the govt to stop killing them that they are just militants . Lets be real here, this is the future of Nigeria we are talking about here. We cant just gamble based on hear say, we must analyze the situation critically before we make a greater mistake. Like i said early the opposition knows that the seeds GEJ is planting will start to spring up soon, that is why they must take over to ensure they uproot it before Nigerians begin to benefit from it. Its all about the glory for APC, that is why they used the Bringbackourgirls to score cheap political points in their rally. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by gists: 7:03pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
mekaboy: Tinubu and other majors leader have shared ideas of how to bring about peace to the country. So your dubious intent with the statement don't keep your solution a secret and wait till your party member becomes presidentis already defeated. pls don't pretend you to know people have tried to school the drunkard in aso rock. As for me, I have also made my little contribution on the topic here on NL even though pdp agents chooses to dismiss it. Some even turn around and accuse me of being apologetic of BH when my suggestion does not even come close to pardoning bh. Nonetheless I will say it again for posterity. I believe in justice and not pardon. Reason being that for how long will we continue to lay precedence that other terrorists may use as excuse. The first and foremost thing we have to realize is that war of any kind is very expensive requiring massive financial support. WHY ON EARTH IS IT DIFFICULT TO CUT THE FUND TO BH? Get their sponsors arrested and 50% of the battle is won. All the military hardwares that BH uses to terrorize are not made in Nigeria which means they get big money bag sponsors who provide millions of dollars for their heinous operations. Cut that source of fund (like the US and all serious government will always try to do against any terrorist groups) and bh will slowly run out of steam. Some high ranking CBN officer was indicted and no one has been arrested to date (I don't give a fvck if it is SLS). why was Ndume tried in secret? Sherif is still walking free and dining with the president! (contrary to your assertion sherif was 1st a pdp member before defecting to apc and had to run back to pdp since that is where he can get presidential protection - don't tell me you didn't hear sherif had a clash with tinubu). So, if I was gej, this is what I would do to cut the funds to bh: I will witch-hunt them with SSS and all other security apparatus so long they are guilty. OBJ did something similar with Alamieyeseigha in Bayelsa, Joshua Dariye of Plateau using EFCC. GEJ is missing a golden opportunity by not using the security apparatus to witch-hunt his enemies that are sponsoring BH. Don't you think SS; SE and SW will support him on this quest if he can prove such people are guilty? OBJ got a lot of accolades everywhere with EFCC because non of those "witch-hunted" was innocent. After cutting the funds to |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 7:13pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
gists:You believe someone will carry a bomb and blow up himself because he or she is hungry or unemployed? Are you talking about using the Nigerian military that have been compromised to fight boko haram ? The person that is mentioning all these names should present evidence , before the govt can go about arresting anyone. It is the same people that will turn around and say GEJ is attacking northerners for no reason because he is arresting people without any evidence. The insecurity situation in Nigeria is beyond obassanjo and OBAMA, it has both political and religious undertone. Didn't obasanjo go to meet with the brother of late yusuf? what happened a few days later, he was shot dead. |
Re: Dangers Of Voting Out GEJ For APC In 2015 by mekaboy(m): 7:29pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
olapluto: This is the solution they said buhari provided on facebook when we are getting close to 2015 elections and Nigerians have criticized him of not doing enough. Was he not the same person asking the govt to stop killing them and treat them like Niger delta militants? why did he suddenly change close to 2015 elections and say deny, destroy etc ? He talks about the environment that encourages radicalism and terrorism. Is it not in an environment where people call for blood like he did that terrorism grows? Is it not in a place where people call for full implementation of sharia in the whole Nigeria, that intolerance and radicalism grows? Look who is talking about targeting terrorists infrastructure and destroying it, the same person that said govt should stop destroying boko haram property. Now he is saying one thing and implicating himself with another. Most of the solutions he gave if Nigeria should follow it then he is guilty of providing and environment for radicalism and terrorism . |
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