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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by zboyd: 12:12am On Nov 09, 2014 |
bigass: Very good point! There are things you can do IN Nigeria that you can't do OUTSIDE of Nigeria, as some unlucky Naijas have found out, here, in the States. Test it out, if you dare. Btw...in some states, even if the victim doesn't press charges, the state will. 1 Like |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Reference(m): 12:15am On Nov 09, 2014 |
saintalone: He is technically right but from where you stand I understand your doubts. In the Kingdom things work by faith. They are established before they are seen, felt, smelt, heard or tasted. When a man becomes born again he is a new creature. His status is changed by the Word to reflect God which means he is no longer poor. In him are deposited amongst other things the 'seeds' of wealth and abundance'. Now he has to take time to cultivate these seeds to maturity. Physical manifestations always lag behind spiritual facts. So when you are saved it takes time for certain vices to wear down but over time you become perfect. It is a good thing because conversely when we sin and spiritually die thank God that physical and emotional reaction is not swift but we have time to recover our conscience and return to God. There are no poor children of God but lots of spiritual babies who have not carried their faith and commitment far enough to secure a physical manifestation. 1 Like |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by saintalone: 12:16am On Nov 09, 2014 |
majekdom2: Now i can confidently say that ive seen the dumbest racist of this 21st century. 2 Likes |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 12:23am On Nov 09, 2014 |
saintalone:oh ... thanks .make youself feel good. |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by francizy(m): 12:24am On Nov 09, 2014 |
bigass: Well, I feel people that call themselves men of God should have Jesus Christ as their role model but its not the case with modern day pastors/revs cause they have the likes of king Solomon, Roca Fella, Bill gates, etc as role model. Anyways, it was even said in the bible that its easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a middle than for a rich man to make heaven. Make we dey watch nah.. Judgement day shall reveal all to wo/men |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 12:25am On Nov 09, 2014 |
Reference:are you trying to preach to this dude ? how are you sure he is a christain .... talkmore understanding what you just put up there. |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by francizy(m): 12:28am On Nov 09, 2014 |
bigass: By the way, these ya laps no be here oh... Be like you dey carry am gym... |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by zboyd: 12:29am On Nov 09, 2014 |
rattlesnake: Are you serious? This was/is a series of children's storybooks....pure fantasy! |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 12:35am On Nov 09, 2014 |
majekdom2: I usually don't reply things like this but I'll indulge u. When it comes to placing a very high value on its citizens, then yes I believe in d West (few exceptions) and wish Nigeria could imitate them. Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong. I don't care whether its coming from West, East, North, South, Middle, Diagonal or whatever. In Nigeria, if u're not rich or well connected, ogbeni u're not fully human IN A SENSE. Whether or not u admit it, a lot of Nigerians are mentally enslaved. U can use nairaland as ur case study. majekdom2: World politics? That's a topic 4 another day. majekdom2: Slavery is detestable. History has shown us that man has committed heinous crimes to his fellow man, irrespective of skin colour. The enslavement of a lot of west africans has absolutely nothing to do with d colour of their skin. Do u know why they were enslaved? because THEY COULD BE ENSLAVED (conquered with physical force). Not all blacks were enslaved my brother. Some black regions were powerful enough to withstand foreign invasion. Throughout history, man has always enslaved man and forced him into servile labour. Whites have enslaved whites. Blacks have enslaved blacks. White has enslaved blacks (with d co-operation of blacks). Blacks have enslaved whites. Brown, Red, Yellow, people has enslaved brown, yellow, red people. In fact any colour u can think of has engaged in slavery one way or d other, depending on how advanced their civilization were. Thank God humans have outgrown such folly; though a lot of people still have bigger chains squeezing life, freedom and reason from their minds. majekdom2:I didn't say all westerners are mother theresas singing kumbaya with halos on their head. U know in ur heart that in terms of intellectual enlightenment and caring for their citizens, they are worth emulating. Racism exists (regrettably so) but is not exclusive to a particular race. Honestly, I think racism will soon be a thing of d past. Or don't u agree with me? Can't u see things for urself? Are there not millions of black american and european citizens? Is a black man not d US president? Do u have to immerse urself in d psyche of d black slaves of more than 400years ago? Yes we all feel infuriated when we watch Django but don't immerse urself in that mindset cos things are improving for d better. majekdom2: Yes I'm 100% african and I'm very proud of my heritage. Honestly bro, I think u're playing d victim mentality. U're d one who needs to wake up cos this is 2014. See what I mean? In ur psyche, "upgraded thinking" means thinking like a white man. That's laughable and I never espoused that. Free ur mind from d chains of prejudice and u'll understand that Good is Good and Bad is Bad, no matter where it is found. So if I support Oyedepo trying to slap out demons/evil spirits from a little girl or support criminal pastors, will that make me more "african"? I'm just embarrassed by Oyedepo's actions. Period! If u like keep quoting me, its ur wahala 4 Likes |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by zboyd: 12:40am On Nov 09, 2014 |
Remember this? Nigerian Apostle Helen Ukpabio Labelled 'A Risk To Children', Deported From The UK "Apostle Helen Ukpabio, the founder of Liberty Foundation Gospel Ministries in Calabar, was deported from the UK by the British government after deeming her presence in the country a risk to youngsters. The 'witch hunter' who wrote in her book ‘Unveiling The Mysteries of Witchcraft’, that "If a child under the age of two screams in the night, cries and is always feverish with deteriorating health he or she is a servant of Satan", was deported last week after campaigners called on UK Home Secretary to deport and ban her from the UK for leading the spread of witch hunting in Nigeria, especially amongst children, some of whom have suffered torture and even death. Red more here: http://todaysgist..com/2014/04/nigerian-apostle-helen-ukpabio-labelled.html 1 Like |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 12:44am On Nov 09, 2014 |
ChokolateBoss:great response .... you dont have to call a black man enslaved because he chooses to follow oyedepo or any other religious leader that was my point ..... every individual is enslaved as long as he has chosen to live under a "common law " and way of life . would you not say al basad followers are enslaved or the donestk region in ukraine are enslaved to russia romans 6: 14 - end and am sorry , there can evr be an end to racism , did you research on why the democrat lost the mid term elections in the states .... it was partly traced to obama 's skin color. have you read on how turkish germans in germany are being treated . I never limited racism to the black race. you are entitled to your opinion but argue without having to insult the other party to your claims |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 12:53am On Nov 09, 2014 |
zboyd:did oyedepo label the girl as a witch or the girl called herself a witch ? |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Proffdada: 1:28am On Nov 09, 2014 |
majekdom2: just beware of the yeast of the Pharisees |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 1:31am On Nov 09, 2014 |
majekdom2:I UNDERSTAND BUT THE POINT I AM BUTTRESSING IS THIS, HOW MANY COMMONERS HAVE THEIR CHILDREN OR WARDS AS STUDENTS OF HIS SCHOOLS? HE ONCE SAID HE WAS A POOR MAN BEFORE GOD LIFTED HIM, WOULD YOU EXPECT EVERY MAN TO SHOUT IN YOUR EARS BEFORE YOU HELP 'EM? DONT YOU HAVE EYES TO DISTINGUISH THE POOR FROM THE WELL FED MEMBERS OF YOUR CHURCH? .........I DEY PARA FOR SOME 9JA PASTORS SO NO LET ME VENT THE ANGER ON YOU. |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by brocab: 2:32am On Nov 09, 2014 |
I'm sure many of us have all seen and been to those kinds of churches. For many of us, It had taken its toll' by seeking the lords kingdom we have found that truth. And wanting to share our good findings to other believers, with those who are still searching are not ready to accept the good news, who can't see past this finance tithing lie, choosing to live in slavery, bondage, carrying their own burdens as far as one can go." While the prosperity preacher-preaches these doctrines from Satan, picking out curtain people from the crown, to put on these shows, so many who believe, pay out more monies so these preachers get paid. cap28: 1 Like |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by freshness2020: 2:46am On Nov 09, 2014 |
lyvin:♈όϋ funny my guy! Na school of comedy ♈όϋ go ? Lol! |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by iamord(m): 3:03am On Nov 09, 2014 |
okeke00: Ahh..hmm..god knows am not a party to them |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by zboyd: 3:13am On Nov 09, 2014 |
majekdom2: In the modern world, no mention of "witch" should be leveled at anyone...nor should anyone confess to being a "witch". When people label someone as a witch, they tend to forget that true witches are beyond men and their accusations and punishment. They are supernatural - not all human. This realization is what stopped the witch hunts, over here, in the States, in the 1600s. It took almost a 100 people being burned at the stake and drowned, before the Puritans realized just how foolish they were. Supernatural beings like witches can't be captured, sentenced, burned or drowned. They can easily escape. They can even kill their accusers, if they so wish, without laying a finger on them. If no one has encountered such beings...then they don't exist, except in their inner fears and vivid imaginations. WAKE UP PEOPLE! EVOLVE!!! 1 Like |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by aaidel(m): 3:23am On Nov 09, 2014 |
can't blame the brits they are only trying to protect harry potter |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Inyinese(m): 5:05am On Nov 09, 2014 |
yes that is vary good for him bad youroba pastors diciver |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Mosb(m): 5:17am On Nov 09, 2014 |
they always talk ish bouh RC let em c hw it feels too |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 5:21am On Nov 09, 2014 |
Tallesty1:best diary on nl |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Tonylyte(m): 5:24am On Nov 09, 2014 |
Na God go purnish bbc. That wount stop me from going to church(winners) today. Evil people. Team ROKIATU for miss nairaland. |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by GeneralShepherd(m): 5:31am On Nov 09, 2014 |
majekdom2: Take her to a psychiatric hospital not slap her. 1 Like |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Tonylyte(m): 5:32am On Nov 09, 2014 |
slimfit1:U are a very phoolish person. U think oyedepo is hypocritic like other men of God that puts every giving they render to the poor on t.v? Hav any poor come to u to tell u that he or she went to seek help from oyedepo and it was not granted to him or her? U are a very phoolish and wicked person. Change now!!! |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by GeneralShepherd(m): 5:33am On Nov 09, 2014 |
GiftyGlee: So you honestly believe the girl is a witch because she said she is. Assuming the girl said she is Kim Kardashian will you believe her? 2 Likes |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by GeneralShepherd(m): 5:35am On Nov 09, 2014 |
twerkjack: Yes because they have the right to freedom of association and worship. And no one takes them seriously |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by okeke00(m): 5:57am On Nov 09, 2014 |
majekdom2:i guess the finance to establish a church is insufficient |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by JaaizTech: 6:28am On Nov 09, 2014 |
Reference: Kai, see what preach-washing has done. Was Jesus himself rich Was Moses rich, was Paul wealthy What does the Bible say about the difficulty of a rich man making heaven This new found xtianity has no basis, where are these teachings sourced from all of a sudden We all grew up hearing the adage: " As poor as a church rat". Suddenly being a successful pastor is synonymous with being a rich pastor, open your eyes all na wash. |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Kcinho(m): 6:37am On Nov 09, 2014 |
ikeugbo:Just asking..... Should the 130k ppl be following him or Jesus? |
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by ozo13(m): 6:39am On Nov 09, 2014 |
y em self go slap person.can he try DAT in his UK church? ;DD only in Nigeria can he do such..am sure if dey allow him to establish d skol n one stubborn student bring in fone to d campus or hostel, he can't slap d person cos he knows oyinbo law go deal wt am. ikeugbo: |
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