stillchris:


can't really say cos the altitude makes it look small but i'll say like 10-20 meters

It doesn't look like the altitude is very high from the photo you posted.

Thanks for sharing.

agaugust:


#Show me made in South Africa radar that does not have European company involved in it's prodcution
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Show me one that does.

agaugust:


[size=16pt] # Show us a war South Africa has fought alone in the last 20 years with over 30,000 soldiers + tanks + artillery + jet fighters + helicopter gunships + ISTAR aircraft + logistics aircraft + armoured vehicles + IFV + all terrain armoured mechanized battalions all in a single war at the same time.

# South Africa has no military except in @THIZA's hollywood photos.

# South African military has not been tested in the capacity of big scale war mentioned above

# AU and UN does not recognize SANDF as a real military force and never allows you to lead any war or fight alone

# All we see is SANDF training photos firing weapons into empty bush and against sand/stones in open land with NO SINGLE ENEMY to reply them

# SANDF = Nigerian Police....SANDF can only point rifles at THIZA's photo camera and video cameramen at home, see photo below

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Show me one that Nigeria has.

Show me any war in hsitroy that nigeria has faced enemy tanks, sam systems, fighter jets etc

agaugust:


I have been keeping quiet about this 'standardized' army talk for months, but today I will answer you.

Will an army be able to k.ill if they have 5 different types of rifles ? Yes, they just need to put the bullet in the head of SANDF

You cannot standardize an army by restricting types of equipment, you will have an army with many weakpoints.

SANDF is so 'standardized' that your whole nation has no single all terrain tracked APC, no tracked IFV, no tracked tank destroyer, no tracked battle field ambulance, no all terrain tracked light tanks, NO SINGLE ALL TERRAIN TRACKED AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS AND MISSILE LAUNCHER !!!

Nigeria has all these with our Styer APC, 4K Mortar carrier, Plamaria artillery, MT-LB multirole APC, Storm APC-ATGM launcher, Scorpion tanks, Roland SAMs.

South African army became a dry land only army with major weakness and ZERO ability to fight on all terrains of battlefields, that is standardization? No, that is the weakest army in Africa in all terrain warfare, stuck and helpless sitting duck SANDF in wetland war zone.

Also, South Africa has ZERO amphibious armoured vehicles that can cross rivers and lakes to go out-flank the enemy, Nigeria has has fully amphibious Cobra APC, VBL APC, Sagaie Tank Destroyers, and BTR-3U IFV etc.

What you call South African standardization is actually a proof that South African army is very far far far below Nigerian army standard.

SANDF will be 99% grounded and immobilized in an ALL TERRAIN battle theatre, your military will be wiped out by Nigeria !


Developed from Italian gun means Italy sold the technology wholesale to South Africa, and DENEL changed the colour and the name to fool people that it is South Africa.

The gun is naval, and cannot shoot straight on your Rooikat IFV, show us where Rooikat scored hit in a battle with it's inaccurate gun

Galil is Israeli made rifle, the technology was sold to South Africa wholesale, and to change name as usual and claim it is South African made, you changed the b.utt or stock and the maganize container to plastic and called it R4 rifle South African product, FRAUD !

"The weapon is a licenced variant of the Israeli Galil ARM assault rifle[4][5] with several modifications; notably, both the stock and magazine are now made of a high-strength polymer and the stock was lengthened, adapting the weapon for the average South African soldier."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_R4

SA Glory thieves in action !!!

Your defence industry is 95% copied or stolen from overseas
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Not even worth the time and energy responding to seriously, so here are bullet points

- Denel only used the Italian breech of the gun for development
- Tracks are a hinderance on the African battlefield.
- Unita and the Cubans had amphibious vehicals... we did not... yet we defeated them every time we met in battle
- No "developed from" does not mean that
- Rooikat gun is accurate up to 2km-2km
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product956.html
- I have allready shown that Nigerian armor doesnt stand a chance against the SANDF


The nigerian arsenal is a hodge-podge of half aquired obsolete weapons systems that are nothing more than a logistical nightmare.

agaugust:


South African air force has NO Mokopa missile

You are a FRAUDSTER !

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Mokopa was intergrated on the Rooivalk

Mokopa is built by a company owned by the South African government

So yes, it has them... or is the rooivalk firing imaginary missiles here?

agaugust:


Now I see you really Butt-Hurt and gasping for breath, sweating like a new yam goat in Abakaliki main market

South Africa does not produce any data-links or radar, I proved that already.

SAAB-Grintek South Africa, well know SAAB is a Swedish company exporting equipment to Grintek Soweto.

Thales, it's a British company we know for years, they opened branch in South Africa to ship defence equipment to you.

Reutech is part of Reunart, and that is American/European company mix, they sent their white engineers in large numbers and equipment into South Africa to open a branch and sell shares of the company to you.


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You have never actually proved any of this and we are still waiting for you to do so.

Or are some tractors sold in the 1950's now data-links? Is that what you meant when you said Nigeria has data-links?

agaugust:


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95% of what you guys claim as South African defence industry is actually imported from USA/Europe/Israel/Brazil and given a new South African name when it arrives at your sea port.

Most of your SA defence companies simply signed partnerships with European weapons manufacturers and produce or export their stuff to South Africa under a different product name.

South African defence industry is 419.....Glory thieves....All na wash
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Ok, you have said it many times.

But you are (as usual) unable to prove it.

I guess the fact that the IGIRI is not nigerian is causing a meltdown.

agaugust:


Prove it.

Sweden was and is and shall ever be superior to South Africa in technology, they have NOTHING to learn from Grintek, it was you that traveled so Sweden to kneel down and buy their Gripen jets from superior brains in Sweden

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Thats not how it works augugbgugug

You made the claim

You have to prove it

Henry120:


A country that completely copied the Super Puma, cannot build an attack helicopter own it's own.

This is a fact.

With the multiple failed bids, and that of turkey in particular, it is clear to every sane mind that Denel cannot claim to be the OEM.

The Turks a NATO member went on to license build the wonderful Italian T-129.

The only thing south-african in the rooivalk are the tires.

Care to prove it?

agaugust:


You cannot use what you did not integrate, it is a technical issue, Mokopa is NOT integrated on Rooivalk, and SAAF has none in service.

Nigeria too has weapons stored in Ukraine that we can call in anytime
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You dont have any weapons in the ukraine


Pictures of Rooivalk firing Mokopa show that is integrated.

agaugust:


Boko Haram is a religious group, and not a conventional war.

Mighty Israel has failed to defeat Hamas religious group.

Mighty America + Britain failed to defeat Taliban in Afghanistan

Nobody can kill peoples's religious faith with a gun and bullet, you kill one, and two will replace him

Your own soldiers can also become religious terrorists and secretly betray your army.

SANDF has never fought a religious group in battle, all we see is photos of training to fight a non-existent enemy.

SANDF = Boys Scout
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Nigeria has not betean any insurgents ever.

You just made a deal with genocidal maniacs... not us.

agaugust:


show source to prove it
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Consult the archives.

I have proved it conclusively

agaugust:


Possible is NOT = Done.

Nigeria too can possibly buy the Akash SAM with 35km range from India as published in world news last year, get it?

Even if intergrated, SAAF has NEVER ordered ANY Mokopa missile, because of lack of funds and the fact I posted, that your then air force chief said the 10km long range is useless because the Rooivalk will not see the target

DENEL engineers are just dumbo domingoes to design a missile that is useless, named Mokopa ATGM.


[size=14pt]SAAF has NO SINGLE Mokopa missile, Rooivalk is a gun carrier [/size]

Nigeria has T-72 tanks stored in Ukraine http://news.rin.ru/eng/news/62731/
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No, Nigeria could ask India to sell it a weapons systems - wether or not you get it is relaint on what the indians say.

South Africa, makes the Mokopa, its integrated, and the factory that produces them is just down the road from AFB Waterkloof

And the Makopa is the best ATGM in the world, hands down.

agaugust:


#Show me made in South Africa radar that does not have European company involved in it's prodcution
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You are the one making the accusations, you have to show us that they do.

We cannot show you that which does not exist.

Do you think people will write an artical entitled "this is a list of people who did not make this thing"

You have no argument

agaugust:


95% of South African defense industry is just European branches of arms manufacturers who opened factory in Soweto Republic
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Citation please.

agaugust:


Same way you claim SAAB of Sweden, Thales of Britain, Nissan of Japan, etc are all South African companies

Thief

95% of South African defense industry is European branches opened by your white masters in South Africa.

#Copy Cats
# Thieves
# Barawo Ole Jankoriko
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Where did we say that?

You creating imaginary arguments to win again?

agaugust:




Jut shows how dull you are, your above story heavily contradicts itself.

See the lines you bolded, one says Nigerian soldiers flee from Boko Haram then goes again to say the soldiers who fled are multi-national troops from 3 countries armies...Nigeria, Chad and Niger Republic all combined.

So which one do we believe from your fake story ? NONE

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THe bolded lines do not say that at all.

Go home augubgugu, you are drunk

agaugust:



According to SAAF air chief, Mokopa missile 10km range is too long and therefore useless, so they will NEVER buy it.

Case closed
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So the missile can only attack targets 10km away?

Not 9? 8? 5?

Wow, this is some retarded logic right here.

Also, that is blatantly not what he said

agaugust:


[size=16pt]Nigeria has many T-72 tanks stored in Ukraine. PROVED so you cannot change the FACT.

http://news.rin.ru/eng/news/62731/

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Lol, what source is this?

The same one that said you were getting T84's has now changed its tune and says T-72's?

Dude, come with legit sources dont post this rubbish here.

Also, are you seriously bragging about getting T-72's?

Its literally the worst tank in the world right now!!!

Finally, the pictures you posted are not found in that link.

EVarn:
^you are very confused,grasping at sheets when you dont even have proof to back your lies.

You are mentally disturbed.

Patchesagain:


You have never actually proved any of this and we are still waiting for you to do so.

Or are some tractors sold in the 1950's now data-links? Is that what you meant when you said Nigeria has data-links?

We've seen Nigeria use Data links, South-Africa has no data links. Let us see any used operationally?

stillchris:
guys, today i witnrssed another missile test around ajah/epe while coming back from church. the darn thing disappeared before i could take out my phone, unlock and launch camera but i was able to snap it's trace.

this is the third time this week and first during a bright afternoon. they normally do this stuff very early in the morning and i get to see it when i go out for jogging before heading to work.

That's a smoke of a jet. Missiles can never be tested any near where people lives. You can never be able to witness missile testing at all.

Patchesagain:


You dont have any weapons in the ukraine


Pictures of Rooivalk firing Mokopa show that is integrated.

You do not have the money to afford them, neither do you have them in service.

Patchesagain:


Care to prove it?

Consult the archives of this very thread.

Patchesagain:


You dont have any weapons in the ukraine


Pictures of Rooivalk firing Mokopa show that is integrated.

Hey dummy, the President recently approved 2 billion dollars specifically for weapons acquisitions.

OPLOT-M and more T-72's coming in.

Patchesagain:


Nigeria has not betean any insurgents ever.

You just made a deal with genocidal maniacs... not us.

Won't be the first time, the South-African government negotiated and gave up their government to the terrorists.

mzilakazi:


You are mentally disturbed.

what,you do not like being called a liar?,i can definitely sense the south african violence here.during the aparthied war,nigeria put a roof over your ungrateful heads{smuggled mandiba out of africa},put food in your blasphemous mouths,and sent you to school to make something out of your lives,yet you call nigeria broke?,can a broke country do any of that?,love,go do some economics.and dont come here bragging about defence companies that are 80% or 90% owned by foreigners.

stillchris:
guys, today i witnrssed another missile test around ajah/epe while coming back from church. the darn thing disappeared before i could take out my phone, unlock and launch camera but i was able to snap it's trace.

this is the third time this week and first during a bright afternoon. they normally do this stuff very early in the morning and i get to see it when i go out for jogging before heading to work.

Thanks man !

All parts for the missile published last year are made from 100% locally sourced materials.

Emerging domestic missile industry of Nigeria
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Patchesagain:


You are the one making the accusations, you have to show us that they do.

We cannot show you that which does not exist.

Do you think people will write an artical entitled "this is a list of people who did not make this thing"

You have no argument

I
Laughed
Soooooo
Haaaaard!

Henry120:


Won't be the first time, the South-African government negotiated and gave up their government to the terrorists.

Oh boy! In Nigeria we see terrorists taking over land at will; and soldiers fleeing and donating equipment.

mzilakazi:



It is not a matter of buying. SA government has mokopa which will be used by SAAF during war. It is not a matter of a choice by some unknown chief or whatever.

Nigeria too has secret missiles at Epe project Island which our government owns and can use in war
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Henry120:


We've seen Nigeria use Data links, South-Africa has no data links. Let us see any used operationally?

Is this where you posted a picture of computers and said "behold! The data links!"

Man, let me eat my dinner and stop reading reflex posts.