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What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 9:54am On Nov 09, 2014
This piece is written strickly for clarification purpose.Sadly, The one who needs clarification is me.Am i missing something here? or Maybe the word change has changed,funny huh? I've been an avid observer of the happenings in the country and the political section of this forum,paying close attention to the debates from the PDP supporters and the APC supporters on how each side tries to outwit,outshine and out-manoeuvre eachother using Facts,lies and propaganda and I can't help but observe,learn and contribute in my own little way.However, in the midst of all these, i sometimes fall in various states of confusion which i'm going highlight as we progress.

I don't seem to get the issue of CHANGE the APC and its Supporters and promoters use as their major mantra used to assure people of what they ARE,what they stand for and what we would enjoy as citizens when they get elected into office,which in simple terms means the PDP must be booted out of office for us to achieve this needed change,for they(PDP) have ruled us for donkey years with little or nothing to show for it.Now, my confusion is,what or who has changed to help us achieve this change? Is APC made up of angels that fell from the heavens in shinning armour with a mission to save Nigeria? What and WHO make up this heavenly party for change? I'd often ask myself, "Who is APC?" WHO because fancy abbreviations and mantras cannot bring about the change, the people who make up the party can,which is the most interesting part, who and who make up this heavenly party? Atiku,Ameachi,El rufai or Tambuwal? grin

A simple research into the political happenings of recent time in regards to defection would make you come to the conclusion that nothing has changed,PDP is APC and vice versa...or atleast to an 80percent ratio,the 20percent would consist of individuals who have held positions in various levels of government...in Nigeria and didn't bring about the CHANGE in their various capacities as public office holders.Do we just say changing abbreviations to APC automatically washes away your sins? Fellow comrades permit me to say, "Can't we just assume that these are selfish and power hungry politicians who keep showing themselves up in our faces with varying party abbreviations and who care only about themselves and their ambitions?" Why in the world would I support a former office holder who made no positive change whatsoever and still say I want change? Maybe the change we seek is a name change,you know, PDP to APC and then ironically let our past leader(s) to rule us once again. grin

Are we too brainwashed to see what is happening right before our eyes? Is it not high time we the people,the sufferer in all these call for an actual change?...In the form of vibrant,Intellectually sound individuals(be it PDP,APC,APGA,LP etc).Our vote matters,Heck! nobody said it must be the ruling party or the leading opposition,we must be wise or else the change we seek carries no meaning in our hearts.We talk GEJ(PDP,ya'll know his story) or GMB(former military head of state by a coup d'etat and three times presidential aspirant) but at the end of the day,what/who is the change we are talking of? Are we going backward or are we moving forward? What has changed,who has changed? Cos to me I don't see any difference between the both parties, If we need change,who will bring about these changes? I need clarity on these issues,hopefully we would all learn something new today.

CC:Progressives and Democrats.

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Nobody: 10:00am On Nov 09, 2014
The Change we needed, is already here. GEJ has been a clean break from the military oligarchs. The tactical manner he dismantled the Kaduna mafia from power is still a wonder to us all.

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Nobody: 11:53am On Nov 09, 2014
Didn't read.

In sane countries opposition parties exist to guide the ruling party into action over pressing issues or lead by example by taking action when possible so as to convince the general public they are a better option.

Here in Nigeria with our half-baked knowledge of world policies the opposition party is more of a headache than guide to the ruling party and most times present themselves as a worse option.

Some diamonds still exist among the dirt; Fashola of Lagos State and Oshiomhole of Edo State deserve an honourable mention for the change they've created in their respective states.

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 11:56am On Nov 09, 2014
charix:
Didn't read.

In sane countries opposition parties exist to guide the ruling party into action over pressing issues or lead by example by taking action when possible so as to convince the general public they are a better option.

Here in Nigeria with our half-baked knowledge of world policies the opposition party is more of a headache than guide to the ruling party and most times present themselves as a worse option.

Some diamonds still exist among the dirt; Fashola of Lagos State and Oshiomhole of Edo State deserve an honourable mention for the change they've created in their respective states.
You are right about the bolded.

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by JigsawKillah(m): 1:06pm On Nov 09, 2014
*takes my seat
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by okangaijele: 6:01pm On Nov 09, 2014
This is what makes APC saints...........some heavily delaidated roads in Port Harcourt. Amaechi's APC

Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by richeso: 7:35pm On Nov 09, 2014
What a pleasant and mature thread ever created in nairaland.
I wish I got this first. Thanks op.

I wish strongly the real nigerians will have something good to say.
Not e-rats.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 8:42pm On Nov 09, 2014
richeso:
What a pleasant and mature thread ever created in nairaland.
I wish I got this first. Thanks op.

I wish strongly the real nigerians will have something good to say.
Not e-rats.
Thanks boss.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 8:42pm On Nov 09, 2014
richeso:
What a pleasant and mature thread ever created in nairaland.
I wish I got this first. Thanks op.

I wish strongly the real nigerians will have something good to say.
Not e-rats.
Thanks boss. i really wish the real peeps who have nigeria at heart would have something to say.

Hopefully mods would let more peeps have say in the issues raised.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 8:44pm On Nov 09, 2014
okangaijele:
This is what makes APC saints...........some heavily delaidated roads in Port Harcourt. Amaechi's APC
Lol.This can be likened to roads around ring road in benin city.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 8:46pm On Nov 09, 2014
charix:
Didn't read.

In sane countries opposition parties exist to guide the ruling party into action over pressing issues or lead by example by taking action when possible so as to convince the general public they are a better option.

Here in Nigeria with our half-baked knowledge of world policies the opposition party is more of a headache than guide to the ruling party and most times present themselves as a worse option.

Some diamonds still exist among the dirt; Fashola of Lagos State and Oshiomhole of Edo State deserve an honourable mention for the change they've created in their respective states.
Oshiomhole for real? You surprise me boss.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Stanpeed: 8:51pm On Nov 09, 2014
This are nice issues the OP raised.Mods,seun. Frontpage tinz.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Ikengawo: 8:55pm On Nov 09, 2014
Op is right. It's only the apc and it's internet fixated existence that tries to paint these fanciful narratives on blogs where apc is ideologically ethically or behaviorally one thing and PDP is another. There are many, typically the children of well to do men that can afford to be online for weeks defending other well to do men than won't hear word of their death or care, that want to paint Nigerian politics as a mirror of what's in America. They want to pretend its Republicans vs. Democrats when its really Satan vs. Ekwensu in nigeria.


There are no political parties, just malleable loosely affiliated armed gangs that change form and membership based on emotion and immediate gratification. Most nigerian politicians have been in no less that 3 parties in their life. This is because they're not parties, they're gangs and when your current gang can't get you what you want you join another and try again. People laugh at Rochas for bouncing from one party to another but how different is Buhari? Even tinubu has 3 party affiliations under his belt.


Nigerian politicans have no ideological leanings so why do we as citizen pretend they do instead of finding someone who does? Nigerian politics is about ego and emotions not ideals and purpose. I respect pdp followers because at least they don't pretend that PDP is "progressive" or anything else implying that a nigerian political party is a short term mafia

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Nobody: 8:57pm On Nov 09, 2014
Djicemob:
Oshiomhole for real? You surprise me boss.

Even a dead body in the morgue is a better option than Igbinedion was. Oshiomhole is the only governor I've seen attempting to bring Edo state to the 21st century.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Ikengawo: 8:57pm On Nov 09, 2014
There are three parties in nigeria, northern region, eastern region and western region and all of the little letters the goblins that come from those places like to call themselves are just details.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 9:00pm On Nov 09, 2014
charix:


Even a dead body in the morgue is a better option than Igbinedion was. Oshiomhole is the only governor I've seen attempting to bring Edo state to the 21st century.
Well, you are right.
Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by gratieao: 9:26pm On Nov 09, 2014
APC and PDP is nothing but two sides of the same coin

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by saintgwizard(m): 10:44pm On Nov 09, 2014
Thank you OP. You said my mind. Sometimes, I wonder how we expect change from same persons who ruled us 30 years ago. Does it in anyway mean that we dont have brighter minds to lead us to greatness other than these old cargos?

Most annoying is when I still hear youths chanting praises to the likes GMB, describing him as the messiah Nigeria needs.

Where are the likes of Donald Duke, Pat Utomi and the rest that I would be proud to call my President.

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Nobody: 1:03am On Nov 10, 2014
saintgwizard:
Thank you OP. You said my mind. Sometimes, I wonder how we expect change from same persons who ruled us 30 years ago. Does it in anyway mean that we dont have brighter minds to lead us to greatness other than these old cargos?

Most annoying is when I still hear youths chanting praises to the likes GMB, describing him as the messiah Nigeria needs.

Where are the likes of Donald Duke, Pat Utomi and the rest that I would be proud to call my President.

That's my biggest worry.

The fact that some peeps reckon we have to bring back a 72 years old ex president so he can magically roll back the 'so called' good old years is alarming.

If the whole of Nigeria and APC as an opposition cannot get a younger vibrant fresh candidate with lesser baggage then they should at best remain the opposition.

After buhari maybe they would bring in Shagari and later Obasanjo grin cos these guys dem fit rebrand and package even Abacha as a saint.

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 6:56am On Nov 10, 2014
calebo101:


That's my biggest worry.

The fact that some peeps reckon we have to bring back a 72 years old ex president so he can magically roll back the 'so called' good old years is alarming.

If the whole of Nigeria and APC as an opposition cannot get a younger vibrant fresh candidate with lesser baggage then they should at best remain the opposition.

After buhari maybe they would bring in Shagari and later Obasanjo grin cos these guys dem fit rebrand and package even Abacha as a saint.
Or Babangida grin

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Re: What Makes APC Saints And PDP Devils? by Djicemob: 6:59am On Nov 10, 2014
saintgwizard:
Thank you OP. You said my mind. Sometimes, I wonder how we expect change from same persons who ruled us 30 years ago. Does it in anyway mean that we dont have brighter minds to lead us to greatness other than these old cargos?

Most annoying is when I still hear youths chanting praises to the likes GMB, describing him as the messiah Nigeria needs.

Where are the likes of Donald Duke, Pat Utomi and the rest that I would be proud to call my President.
Exactly,These are clearly sound minds.We can enjoy change with these men.

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