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Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 8:57pm On Nov 09, 2014
babyosisi:


Read the freaking thread please,there is a doctor's diagnosis somewhere in it
Who can diagnose cirrhosis from a picture?
You can tell acute from chronic from a photograph
What backyard school are you at?
i dont go with anyones diagnosis.. did he see he labs and take history? pass the labs if uv got it..

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Re: I Need Help by DJDOLA(m): 8:59pm On Nov 09, 2014
I can still travel far if am comfort wit were am sitting down....for d abeoukuta hospital if the man see me and can not handle it my uncle said he will not admit me...and for LUTH..luth is not as before anymore am in ward 2a I swear some people are there morethan 2 years still yet they are not ok and dis people are spending money...the way treat people at luth is not wat 2 write home...and for some guys that said maybe I don't want 2 used d money NL send 2 me..my uncle don't no NL send me money only my brother my dad and mom no about it..my uncle said the man we charge me up 2 400k if he can do it...and if he can't do it I will from there go 2 ibadan teaching hospital....PLS GUYS DON'T GIVE UP ON ME....caracta thank for understanding

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Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 8:59pm On Nov 09, 2014
babyosisi:


Read the freaking thread please,there is a doctor's diagnosis somewhere in it
Who can diagnose cirrhosis from a picture?
You can tell acute from chronic from a photograph
What backyard school are you at?
i dont go with anyones diagnosis.. did he see he labs and take history? pass the labs if uv got it.. a school that teaches self autonomy rather than settling for someone else point of view.. did u take hx?
Re: I Need Help by tobey2ng(m): 9:05pm On Nov 09, 2014
bebe2:

my dear u have tried.
God bless u.
I dont think u should send a nairalander with them , it might feel like u r trying to monitor them or spy on them.

Once he gets there, then u can send someone to visit him and access the situation.
That's a good idea and I support that.
Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:06pm On Nov 09, 2014
MrNiceGuy4:
i dont go with anyones diagnosis.. did he see he labs and take history? pass the labs if uv got it.. a school that teaches self autonomy rather than settling for someone else point of view.. did u take hx?

Then God help you and the patients that end up with you.
Decompensated CLD aka decompensated Cirrhosis of the liver and possibility a cancer which is often the long term outcome of cirrhosis
If you ever sat in a medicine class you should know what that means and that the only help available at this time is a liver transplant

Re: I Need Help by tempem: 9:08pm On Nov 09, 2014
jaybee3:

It's unreasonable to expect every single cry for help thread to graze the FP. These cases if and when alerted usually go through rigorous verification process so as to protect funds donated as well as ensure donations are used for the intended purpose.
Hindsight is very easy to stress but please let's apply some sort of reason to the case at hand
You might be right..... But please, use discernment in some cases, we are all pained with that reaction.

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Re: I Need Help by jaybiz007(m): 9:11pm On Nov 09, 2014
I just have dis weird feeling dat doc. awojobi in eruwa can handle dis. May Allah heal you brother hammed. @babyosisi, I'm so much impressed by your enthusiasm! God bless you. @ everyone who has been helping both in kind and cash, Allah will mercy you all too.
lastly, @Mr Seun, kindly sticky this thread on front page for a week, because we still need more people to come on board. May Allah reward you as you consider this humble request.

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Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:13pm On Nov 09, 2014
DJDOLA:
I can still travel far if am comfort wit were am sitting down....for d abeoukuta hospital if the man see me and can not handle it my uncle said he will not admit me...and for LUTH..luth is not as before anymore am in ward 2a I swear some people are there morethan 2 years still yet they are not ok and dis people are spending money...the way treat people at luth is not wat 2 write home...and for some guys that said maybe I don't want 2 used d money NL send 2 me..my uncle don't no NL send me money only my brother my dad and mom no about it..my uncle said the man we charge me up 2 400k if he can do it...and if he can't do it I will from there go 2 ibadan teaching hospital....PLS GUYS DON'T GIVE UP ON ME....caracta thank for understanding

My dear please tell me ,are you passing dark stool?
How long have you had this condition ( the ascites)
Did the doctor also say you have jaundice?
When were you first diagnosed
Does your body itch?

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Re: I Need Help by bebe2(f): 9:17pm On Nov 09, 2014
r231:


Since Reddington is good, can't they just go there and we try and solicit for the rest of the money!!

seconded.

ifyalways said she can pull some strings there,
pls discuss with her.
Re: I Need Help by Mzspread(f): 9:18pm On Nov 09, 2014
To all those contributing to this issue in cash,kind,time, prayers, may God bless u abundantly. Hammed shall live!!! Have been tweeting abt it #SaveHamed and av been gettn a lot of retweets. But retweeting is not enough, pls let's oda twitter users tweet about it so it can circulate well. #SaveOJB, #SaveDebbie turned out successful.#SaveHamed will turn out fine too in Jesus name. Thank u

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Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:18pm On Nov 09, 2014
babyosisi:


Then God help you and the patients that end up with you.
Decompensated CLD aka decompensated Cirrhosis of the liver and possibility a cancer which is often the long term outcome of cirrhosis
If you ever sat in a medicine class you should know what that means and that the only help available at this time is a liver transplant

when I saw the lab result I emailed a doc in the states and they also indicated a liver transplant. unless LUTHs prognosis is defective but if it isnt then his solution is a liver transplant this was why I started shouting take him to india. He who has ears let him hear. ignorance is making them want to run to abeokuta just by hearsay. The causes for fluid retention in the abdomen and legs are pretty easy to narrow down and it always has a link to the liver.
Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:19pm On Nov 09, 2014
Keep hope alive dear,
Will check back in 5 hours
Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:20pm On Nov 09, 2014
naijadeyhia:


when I saw the lab result I emailed a doc in the states and they also indicated a liver transplant. unless LUTHs prognosis is defective but if it isnt then his solution is a liver transplant this was why I started shouting take him to india. He who has ears let him hear. ignorance is making them want to run to abeokuta just by hearsay. The causes for fluid retention in the abdomen and legs are pretty easy to narrow down and it always has a link to the liver.

Finally I have a witness
This is not something anyone can handle in Nigeria,I have said that at the risk of sounding pessimistic
And just one word of caution at DJDOLA ,please avoid ibuprofen and aspirin or anything with codeine
Re: I Need Help by Tokunbohkinibig: 9:22pm On Nov 09, 2014
I am compelled to write this by the recent attitude/action of Hammed family members who are pressurising him to go to Abeokuta for medical treatment that is not available. Where are they when the money wasn't there? Listen @all, i think it is high time the message is pass across to his family members that the people who contributed all the money in his Acct have decided to take Hammed back to either Luth or Uch Ibadan; d decision is not theirs anymore, period. Lets be decisive about this cos we re talking about life here.

This Abeokuta trip might turn out to be a waste of time, trust me. Why can't you go to Uch Ibadan at once instead of wasting your time and resources to go all d way to Abeokuta to obtain nothing but more regrets.

Op, without your consent, your family members can't do anything but listen to your demands. The money that would be covering your overheads is in your personal Acct, not theirs. Listen bro, your family members have now developed phobia for insults abiii(LOL @ dat abiii)?

However, i dont entertain or give room for doubt in my mind when it comes to taking an important decision such as this. Bro, pick your stuff tomorrow morning and make your way to any of these teaching hospitals Luth, Uch Ibadan( a cab all d way) or Reddigton(irregardless of the cost).

I say big No to Abeokuta hospital where you might finally be refered back to teaching hospitals. If your mum insists, then i would be compelled to ask her to single-handedly finance your trip to Abeokuta and if things get better, others ll join her in d race.

Finally, your case is now different from your first visit to Luth. Nigerians are involved in your case now and i am 100% sure that you would be well treated this time around. Some forumites have promised to ask their family members who works at Luth or Uch to keep eyes on you as soon as you get yourself admitted in one of these two hospitals.

@ charata, keeping quiet over this repulsive decision of his family members of taking him to unknown hospital in Abeokuta would equally leave you with everlasting pains if anything goes wrong in Abeokuta ( God forbid though). keeping it real babes. You know better than his parents in terms of education and you(among forumites) are in d best position to take some decision on his behalf cos you are equally acting on behalf of all Forumites too. God bless u @charata and remain blessed.

@Djbola, how lucky you are that i m not close to where you are cos by tomorrow morning, i ll be d first person you would have probably see, standing by your door to pick you up and d purpose for that desperate action is to ensure you get to Uch or Luth by tommorow morning, if you turn my offer down then, forumites ll be updated about it.

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Re: I Need Help by marcjane(f): 9:28pm On Nov 09, 2014
Fairgodwin:


You don't know how specially grateful I am to you. Thank you, Jane, thank you
Thank you too

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Re: I Need Help by marcjane(f): 9:28pm On Nov 09, 2014
Fairgodwin:


You don't know how specially grateful I am to you. Thank you, Jane, thank you
Re: I Need Help by bebe2(f): 9:29pm On Nov 09, 2014
DJDOLA:
I can still travel far if am comfort wit were am sitting down....for d abeoukuta hospital if the man see me and can not handle it my uncle said he will not admit me...and for LUTH..luth is not as before anymore am in ward 2a I swear some people are there morethan 2 years still yet they are not ok and dis people are spending money...the way treat people at luth is not wat 2 write home...and for some guys that said maybe I don't want 2 used d money NL send 2 me..my uncle don't no NL send me money only my brother my dad and mom no about it..my uncle said the man we charge me up 2 400k if he can do it...and if he can't do it I will from there go 2 ibadan teaching hospital....PLS GUYS DON'T GIVE UP ON ME....caracta thank for understanding


OK,

The man sees u and say he can treat u,

u pay advance, treatment starts, 10 days later GOD forbid u r not improving.

what next ??

by then u have spent maybe 200k on further test, medicine, admission fee etc.

if u can travel, why dnt u go for the most recommended?

ur system is being damaged daily with all the fluid and God knows wat that has caused that swelling.

also, contact ifyalways if she can help u with reddington, i hear its the best hospital in lagos.
Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:30pm On Nov 09, 2014
if LUTH did not arrive at that prognosis via this procedure below then it just might be wrong.

" paracentesis is recommended to obtain samples of
the fluid for analysis to assist in making the
diagnosis. Removal of the fluid may assist with
symptom control. Paracentesis is a
sterile procedure whereby a needle is placed
through the abdominal wall into the peritoneal
cavity and fluid is removed.
Gastroenterologists (specialists in the digestive
system including the liver) use a formula
measuring the amount of albumin (protein) in the
blood compared to the amount found in the ascites
fluid to help them classify the type of ascites and
assist with the diagnosis. If the amount of protein
is higher in the serum, it may be due to liver
disease, heart failure, and Budd-Chiari syndrome.
If the ratio is low, then cancer and pancreatitis
are potential causes."

OP was any attempt made to take a sample of thw fluid retained in your belly? However I wi assume their prognosis was right and based on that we need not be talking about treatments at dis time. what we should be talking about is a liver transplant.
Re: I Need Help by Artistree: 9:38pm On Nov 09, 2014
ifyalways:


I could make a few calls, if they want to go to Reddington. Expensive but health is wealth.

@Artistree, so the family is bothered about ordinary embarrassment as against a human life at stake? SMH. I hope OP has his atm card/pin/account access.Some people have no conscience once money is involved.

There are other good,not too expensive hospitals in Lagos he could go to eg : Eko hospital, Premier hospital, lagoon etc.
I told him that too! The issue then was embarrassing cos of lack of funds. Now, there is little to go around with, sentiments should be dropped but he insisted that from the look of things, his mother will NEVER go back with him to LUTH. He actually gave me express permission to post this so the house can know the odds against him presently. The dude can't move so he's at the mercy of people to do the needful.
Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:39pm On Nov 09, 2014
FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEDICAL TERMS, LUTH GAVE A PROGNOSIS OF DECOMPENSATED CLD. IN FULL THIS MEANS DECOMPENSATED LIVER DISEASE OR CHRONIC IMPAIRED LIVER FUNCTION. NOW DO YOU GET THE PICTURE?
Re: I Need Help by Nobody: 9:47pm On Nov 09, 2014
Decompensated liver disease means that the medications and treatments used to treat the cirrhosis is no longer working very well and the liver is near total failure. When symptoms can no longer
be controlled with drugs, then that means
it is decompensated. It is the very last stage of cirrhosis. Chronic means it is an ongoing problem that does not go away.

I took my time to deliberately explain this so we all know what we are dealing with. this guy needs a liver transplant and must be flown out if we cannot run that process in Nigeria.

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Re: I Need Help by Tokunbohkinibig: 9:59pm On Nov 09, 2014
@all, i dont know if anybody who lives in Lagos is interested in the last paragragh of my last post. Sometimes, there is need for one as individual or group of people just like we are as forumites to take drastic action to deal with critical situation such as this. Lets see What the family members would do and even Hammed.........#teamwinnerschapellondon declaring restoration and spiritual healing to your life right now. Stand up and work Ijn. Amen.

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Re: I Need Help by Busybody2(f): 10:12pm On Nov 09, 2014
naijadeyhia:
FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEDICAL TERMS, LUTH GAVE A PROGNOSIS OF DECOMPENSATED CLD. IN FULL THIS MEANS DECOMPENSATED LIVER DISEASE OR CHRONIC IMPAIRED LIVER FUNCTION. NOW DO YOU GET THE PICTURE?


The Doctor (Endocrinologist) who saw him at LUTH a&e is "querying" CLD. The diagnosis is not firm and unconfirmed, hence reason they requested he undergoes further scans...

If those tests and CT scan was all that was carried out so far, all this indicates is that the Doctor suspected a cancerous tumour/internal bleeding and tested for this...so the only clinical investigation so far only reveals Ascites.
Re: I Need Help by marcjane(f): 10:19pm On Nov 09, 2014
chiefokonkwo:

Winsh kind of sickness is dis? Abegs, someone to reposts his accts numbers, let me do my widows mites
pls chief read my signature.
Thanks.
Re: I Need Help by olu4life(m): 10:19pm On Nov 09, 2014
Busybody2:


Kindly ask her if they have a Gastroenterologist Unit in Luth and find out the cost of abdo ultrasound, LFT, CBC, basic metabolic profile, etc. And if needed, is LUTH equipped to handle a liver biopsy?
Just asked the lady friend. Said its not a p guaranteed he's boxed up. I still subscribe for LUTH o. Wats the update biko.
Re: I Need Help by kendraloops: 10:22pm On Nov 09, 2014
thinkdip:
NL's should take this guy out of there, I sense the family are trying to play games, the money is already in the account, what's stopping them from taking him to luth, I sense something, pls, let's radically force them to respond and take the guy to the hospital so that they won't play games with his life.

Good point you've made. The money might have "entered their eyes" especially all these yeye extended family, thats why they are recommending one yeye unheard of hospital so they'll have some change left. Hope his atm card is with him or a VERY trusted relative cos people are damn wicked!!
Re: I Need Help by chival(f): 10:23pm On Nov 09, 2014
I am with babyosisi on this. I lost my dad to lung cancer some years ago at LASUTH and having seen things first hand there, I'll agree the OP's ailment requires specialist care OUTSIDE Nigeria. Our govt hospitals do their best but I really doubt if they can perform a liver biopsy or transplant if that is what is needed.

However, as someone pointed out, processing a visa for him might take a few days and it certainly won't be advisable for the OP to sit and wait till that is done, so I think the best thing would be to get him to a tertiary hosp that can manage his symptoms for a few days(at least drain the retained fluid in his tummy to help him breathe easier) until he can be flown out to India for treatment.

DJDOLA we are praying unceasingly for you knowing that God will never give up on you. You will overcome this in Jesus name. Regardless of how grim the picture looks, stay positive. It helps tremendously.

Caracta, marcjane, CC, GBoliwe,babyosisi and all who have contributed in cash and kind, you guys are angels simply put. May God bless you all richly.

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Re: I Need Help by Kashif(m): 10:27pm On Nov 09, 2014
I have read a lot here, and have had to research the OP's diagnosis. If that diagnosis is correct, I am afraid Babyosisi is right - his only treatment is a liver transplant. The abdominal fluid retention is just a complication arising from the cirrhosis, which is the underlying factor.

Any other 'treatment' would be waste of resources. Efforts should be geared towards getting his travel document. The Abeokuta doctor may only try to manage the ascites.

Please, let's be objective. You can undertake a little research....

Shalom.

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Re: I Need Help by Busybody2(f): 10:32pm On Nov 09, 2014
Re: Reddington, Lagoon, etc...he will have to pay on average N100,000k for consultation as an in-patient. This fee does not include any test oh...and if LUTH is charging N53k for routine Ultrasound, hmmm...

These kinda hospitals are set up for those with private medical insurance...
Re: I Need Help by kendraloops: 10:33pm On Nov 09, 2014
Artistree:

I told him that too! The issue then was embarrassing cos of lack of funds. Now, there is little to go around with, sentiments should be dropped but he insisted that from the look of things, his mother will NEVER go back with him to LUTH. He actually gave me express permission to post this so the house can know the odds against him presently. The dude can't move so he's at the mercy of people to do the needful.

mtcheeeeewwww!! The mama never ready, guess she has a million kids. Even if it means you licking the doctor's poo, won't you do that to save your child's life?? When he gets better, you can return to the hospi and slap d doc if you feel like. Pls tell mama to do away with pride. I'm sooo angry!!
Re: I Need Help by Babyrex(f): 10:35pm On Nov 09, 2014
I have no money to give, but will help spread his predicament on every social media i'm on till he gets the help he'll nid
#savehammed @mzspread
Re: I Need Help by olu4life(m): 10:36pm On Nov 09, 2014
Just read up about the hospital he suggested at eruwa,think its cool according to findings online. Though,eruwa na Oyo not Ogun o. Lemme c if I can get the hospital contact so as to first enquire if they can handle the case than to waste time going there
Edited...
oluyombo@hotmail.com Just hope the mail is still functioning

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