Henry120:

There is no evidence to show that, the video was shot in Nigeria.
I live in Nigeria, so I would know Nigeria when I see it.

In other words, this is not Nigeria because you say so. And if these were people from another west African country, there's no way on earth this would not have been reported on by now. It's too significant a development. This is Nigeria.

DieVluit:


In other words, this is not Nigeria because you say so. And if these were people from another west African country, there's no way on earth this would not have been reported on by now. It's too significant a development. This is Nigeria.

Provide proof. Concrete proof, not some stage terrorist video.

Henry120:


Anyone can claim to be shekau. Bashir mohammed who has appeared in many videos claiming to be shekau was killed in konduga.

I personally pasted the photo here.

The Shekau in the vids here is the Shekau the world knows and the Shekau the world knows is not dead. So you killed Bashir and not Shekau.

Henry120:


Provide proof. Concrete proof, not some stage terrorist video.

You haven't provided a basis for your denial and I gave you a very nice story on a balance of probabities, which are weighed in my favour. Not yours.

No way on a balance of probabilities is your story credible. Pick a country this could be if not Nigeria; and let us see how ridiculous you are being.

And your "staging" is just a baseless allegation, which if true, is irrelevant to the point that Boko Haram have turned pieces of Nigerian territory into a place where they can "stage" videos.

DieVluit:


The Shekau in the vids here is the Shekau the world knows and the Shekau the world knows is not dead. So you killed Bashir and not Shekau.

So how many Shekau's has the world seen?

You compare.

Major bomb blast in Yobe a few hours ago. Close to 50 kids dead. This is not a nice story, but all blame goes to the Nigerian military, which has failed in its duty to protect against these type of happenings.

Henry120:


So how many Shekau's has the world seen?

You compare.

Henry, who is the person claiming to be Shekau - who has been shot with "rare clarity" in the latest video

The "dead" and injured "Shekaus" were shown to the world by the military, so those pictures don't count.

DieVluit:


You haven't provided a basis for your denial and I gave you a very nice story on a balance of probabities, which are weighed in my favour. Not yours.

No way on a balance of probabilities is your story credible. Pick a country this could be if not Nigeria; and let us see how ridiculous you are being.

And your "staging" is just a baseless allegation, which if true, is irrelevant to the point that Boko Haram have turned pieces of Nigerian territory into a place where they can "stage" videos.

I can stage videos in my home, and claim them as captured territory.

It's easy.

Henry120:


I can stage videos in my home, and claim them as captured territory.

It's easy.

Yes you can, but you still have not dealt with the fact that your denial is not credible on a balance of probabilities, while my story is.

The video plays for 44 minutes. Preparing for and recording the video took longer. No way that a government or Media other than Nigeria's would fail to respond either during or after the event if something like this happened outside of Nigeria.

DieVluit:


Henry, who is the person claiming to be Shekau - who has been shot with "rare clarity" in the latest video?

I shown you irrefutable evidence of the multiple shekaus.

You claim the world knows only one, these are video cuts from propaganda videos released by B.H. The one with shekau on a dying hospital bed was released by Nigeria's DSS.

So how many Shekau's can you see?

Henry120:


I shown you irrefutable evidence of the multiple shekaus.

You claim the world knows only one, these are video cuts from propaganda videos released by B.H. The one with shekau on a dying hospital bed was released by Nigeria's DSS.

So how many Shekau's can you see?

Your evidence is refutable because these are dead people that your military presented and said "This man says he is Shekau and we have killed him". No one other than your military tagged the dead men Shekau.

DieVluit:


Yes you can, but you still have not dealt with the fact that your denial is not credible on a balance of probabilities, while my story is.

The video plays for 44 minutes. Preparing for and recording the video took longer. No way that a government or Media other than Nigeria's would fail to respond either during or after the event if something like this happened outside of Nigeria.

Neither is the video.

Henry120:


So how many Shekau's has the world seen?

You compare.

Incompetent military will always be fooled around when indeed the actual real Shekau is around.

DieVluit:


Your evidence is refutable because these are dead people that your military presented and said "This man says he is Shekau and we have killed him".

These are cuts from the same videos you continue to cite as evidence. Our military doesn't release terrorist videos to AFP.

So tell us how many Shekau's you can see?

Henry120:


Neither is the video.

Neither is the video what?

Henry120:


These are cuts from the same videos you continue to cite as evidence. Our military doesn't release terrorist videos to AFP.

So tell us how many Shekau's you can see?

Let me tell you this, the prized swelling on the guy's forehead. It is right on top of the bridge of the nose in the picture where the man is alive. Dead centre.

Dead man's pic? Top of the one eye.

These are rubbish pictures too.

Look at it and tell me if I am lying. I invite everyone to look at it.

DieVluit:


Neither is the video what?

Neither is the video credible.

Henry120:


Neither is the video credible.

That the video is not credible is not relevant right here. Your story that it was NOT shot or "staged" in Nigeria is what we are talking about. It is what is not credible on a balance of probabilities. This was in Nigeria, otherwise please list possible countries here so I can laugh at you.

Henry120:


Neither is the video credible.

The video is credible because it was real.

The below picture is faked

Look at the forehead bump that is supposed to make these two pictures authentic... on the dead picture, the pump is moved towards the side while on the alive picture, the bump is on the center of the forehead

FAKE FAKE FAKE

ActivateKruger:
The below picture is faked

Look at the forehead bump that is supposed to make these two pictures authentic... on the dead picture, the pump is moved towards the side while on the alive picture, the bump is on the center of the forehead

FAKE FAKE FAKE

Exactly what I pointed out and I have never even seen this before.

See my last post.

Henry120:


There is no evidence to show that, the video was shot in Nigeria.

I live in Nigeria, so I would know Nigeria when I see it.

The evidence is that it is in Nigeria

Have you ever considered that your government is hiding BH victories from the general population?

DieVluit:


Let me tell you this, the prized swelling on the guy's forehead. It is right on top of the bridge of the nose in the picture where the man is alive. Dead centre.

Dead man's pic? Top of the one eye.

These are rubbish pictures too.

Look at it and tell me if I am lying. I invite everyone to look at it.

They are the exact same person.

In the first photo, there are 2 individuals, one with a broad face, the other with a more V shaped face.

Different people.

The guy on the bed is also different.

So, my question is, how many Shekau's have you seen?

Patchesagain:


The evidence is that it is in Nigeria

Have you ever considered that your government is hiding BH victories from the general population?

Have you also considered that BH is only posting staged propaganda videos?

Henry120:


They are the exact same person.

In the first photo, there are 2 individuals, one with a broad face, the other with a more V shaped face.

Different people.

The guy on the bed is also different.

So, my question is, how many Shekau's have you seen?

We have shown you that the pictures are fake based on the varying positions of the bump on the one guy's forehead. Why don't you address that directly?

As for the Shekau in the deathbed, no one said that was Shekau other than your military and there is no way you can compare that person's face to that in any video. That guy is Shekau only because the military "says so".

DieVluit:
Major bomb blast in Yobe a few hours ago. Close to 50 kids dead. This is not a nice story, but all blame goes to the Nigerian military, which has failed in its duty to protect against these type of happenings.

Your country has the world's worst murder rate.

Can we also blame your recces, saps and all?

DieVluit:


We have shown you that the pictures are fake based on the varying positions of the bump on the one guy's forehead. Why don't you address that directly?

As for the Shekau in the deathbed, no one said that was Shekau other than your military and there is no way you can compare that person's face to that in any video. That guy is Shekau only because the military "says so".

Is AFP or CNN fighting in the north-east alongside the army?

You haven't even answered my question.

Henry120:


Your country has the world's worst murder rate.

Can we also blame your recces, saps and all?

Murder rate. Not insurgency. And no, it is not the world's worst murder rate.

You have dedicated your entire military resources to fighting BH and you are focused on the fight. You are supposed to be at your best at the moment. You even have a state of emergency. Yet, you are failing.

And yes, for our crime, we do tell the SAPS where to get off for their shortcomings.

Henry120:


Is AFP or CNN fighting in the north-east alongside the army?

You haven't even answered my question.

No they are not, so?

Are you?

DieVluit:


Exactly what I pointed out and I have never even seen this before.

See my last post.

And one wonders why an Islamist would UnCloth himself before combat.

Nigerians are deceived by 2cent propaganda, I could have staged it better with my minimum budget.

Even as the Nigerian military stepped up efforts at beating back the extremist Boko Haram sect from the areas it currently occupies, including the commercial border town of Mubi in Adamawa state, the militants are intensifying attacks on remote communities and villages, residents have told PREMIUM TIMES.

Also, there are reports that three retired Generals of the Nigerian Army narrowly escaped death when Boko Haram insurgents stormed their village asking for their whereabouts.