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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 4:38pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: The only colonial thing or object in SA is the Castle in Cape Town, its almost 400 years old. Everything else was made by and for South Africans. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:38pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
DieVluit: Good you admit South Africans are finding better life in Nigeria. Nice one. Nigerians too are living off you and repatriating earnings to Nigeria. Simple . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:39pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: The black scum are feeding you, so if they are parasite then you are their excrement, seeing as you suck the life out of their land after having failed to contribute towards the building of yours. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:39pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
agaugust: Nope, they only came to fill the vacancy that none of Nigerian companies could fill. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:40pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: They are feeding you and exposing you to a better quality of life. So if they are parasites, then you are their excrement, seeing as you have willingly run to their land and suck the life out of it having failed to contribute towards the building of yours. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 4:41pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: after drinking SA sweet tap water,not the river water you are used to back home....you come here and paint a bad picture on a country that feed you and your family back in Nigeria...you are too wise comrade 5 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 4:41pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
DieVluit:the black scuum asking for donations and 'food droplets' feeding me? well .... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:42pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
agaugust: Of course they are building a better life for themselves OFF Nigerians (not in Nigeria) by collecting money and sending it to South Africa. You could always list Nigerian parastatals in SA, like you listed SA parastatals in Nigeria, which parastatals BUILD Nigeria into a more civilised place. And druglords don't count. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:44pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: You are not in a position to donate anything. Yours is to marvel at South African electricity and roads that you can walk on without breaking your toes. Yours is to see what the next thing or south african that you can suck something from is. It's not like you left a legacy in Nigeria anyway. You left because there was nothing that you could suck there. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 4:45pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
MduZA:I'm feeding you in your own country, so I can do what ever I like... plus give you sweet beating if need be 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:46pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: You are not in a position to feed anyone. Your modus operandi is parasitus suckustus. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 4:46pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
agaugust: [size=16pt] Denel Moongose Hard Kills.... None of your ancient AT will touch our Ratels and APCs. Again I'm just using South African made weapons, you're are busy showing us Imports. [/size] 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:47pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
agaugust: Nigerians are only collecting change to repatriate back home. I have two of them working on my garden. I give them free food and accommodation. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 4:47pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
DieVluit:I'm human, I can't stand saffers cry if I refuse them |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:48pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: The bolded. Exactly! Not even laws (tax laws, immigration laws or otherwise) could stop you. You do whatever you like because you come from a land like that. See what I mean when I say all the illegals from your part of the world sound like you? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:49pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: Do you mean by working as a gardener. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:49pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: You are human, but you are also a shelter-seeking illegal, who is under the wing of South Africans every waking moment of his life. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 4:50pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
DieVluit:you're going off key again boy .. speak english |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 4:50pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
mzilakazi:I mean feeding your family |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:52pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: You could always point out the part that's not English. But you'd first have to cut my hair before you start pointing at things. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 4:52pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
a knock on the door, sure its donations again .. will be back boys, 'laiyer' |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:54pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: LOL - announcing non-existent knocks on doors. Run along, you illegal parasite. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:56pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: How on earth will a barber feed my family with R20s that he collects on every head he shaves. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 4:56pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
iterator25: you will do whatever you like in your imagination,practically you know very well that there are boundaries...am proud of my country for housing refugees like you...remember dont urinate where you will drink tomorrow |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:16pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
DieVluit: We are fighting a religious war against Islamic extremists, and we have about 100,000 Nigerian military men and officers who are faithful to Islamic religion, what do you expect, trust every soldier? No. . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:18pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
mzilakazi: Show proof of those Nigerians in your garden. You are more like a South African living on ANC government free cash handout support. I have proof of Nigerian doctors sucking South Africa dry because you need them desperately . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:20pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
agaugust: That's an explanation of why your case is hopeless. The reasons don't matter to me. What matters is that your systems aren't working, as confirmed by you. You clearly confirm that your soldiers can't trust each other. That's hopeless. So, don't give us (in other posts) the impression that you are an organised military fighting as a cohesive unit. You clearly have confirmed that as a result of your being disorganised, some of your men side with the enemy. To the point of ensuring that the enemy has access to your equipment and God knows what else. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:26pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
mehn ,the dexterity which these south Africans show here makes me wonder if zuma gives them a special allocation to come and argue here. ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 5:27pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
mzilakazi: ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 5:43pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
agaugust: Nigerian doctors are working on government hospitals getting paid peanuts. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PatriotZAR: 6:04pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
An account of how M23 was decimated by FIB. Coercive peace-keeping works! South Africa at war in the DRC – The Inside Story A blackout on operations by South African soldiers fighting rebels in the Democratic Republic of Congo has left historic battles shrouded in mystery. Now writer Stephan Hofstatter and photographer James Oatway, who reported on two of the battles from the Congo, have been granted exclusive access to the men who fought in democratic South Africa’s most successful military operation. This is their story. A routine drill that turned into war On Wednesday August 28 2013, two old Soviet T55 tanks that were parked outside the South African base at Munigi hill overlooking Goma roared into life and trundled up the road into enemy-occupied territory. The South Africans thought nothing of it. For weeks, Congolese soldiers had fired up their T55s to run their engines and reconnoitre rebel movements. That morning, a routine drill turned into war. At 6.15am, the tanks opened fire on M23 positions dug into Triple Towers hill 5km from the base, in an area known as Kibati Heights. Within minutes, a force of 1500 well-trained rebels, armed with mortars, 12-barrel anti-aircraft rocket launchers called Katyushas, a Russian SPG-9 anti-tank weapon mounted on a pick-up truck and assault rifles, returned fire. They overshot the tanks, raining shells on the camp. One landed on the outskirts of Goma, injuring several civilians. “It caught us totally by surprise. Those guys are not very accurate with their weapons,” said Captain David Williams, commander of Alpha Company. A 14.5mm round whizzed through the kitchen while the chef was preparing breakfast. Henceforth, he cooked in battle gear, including helmet. By the end of that morning’s shelling, six South Africans were being treated for shrapnel wounds, some returning to the front within hours. The 850-strong South African contingent of the new Force Intervention Brigade, the first UN army given orders to shoot first and ask questions later, arrived in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) between April and June 2013. Most were part of 6 SA Infantry Battalion under the operational command of Lieutenant-Colonel Altin Gysman, and included a recce platoon of 36 men. Joining them was Charlie Company, 144 paratroopers from 44 Parachute Brigade commanded by Major Victor Vrolik, and 1200 Tanzanian infantry and artillery men. Another 900 Malawians were due to arrive later. These combat troops, along with Mamba armoured personnel carriers, 122mm howitzers, 81mm mortars, Oryx transport helicopters and — belatedly — three hi-tech Rooivalk attack helicopters, were just what was needed to bolster the force of Congolese regional commander Major-General Bahuma Ambamba and the charismatic Colonel Mamadou Ndala. The colonel died mysteriously in an ambush months later. The South Africans deployed two companies of 145 men each, commanded by Captain Williams and Captain Carl Fuller, comprising four infantry platoons and recces. Marksmen from a different detachment were seconded to each unit to be deployed as snipers. Fuller’s company was merged with a Tanzanian company to form Task Group Bravo. Williams’s Alpha Company controlled the high ground in the east and Gysman and Bahuma controlled the high ground at Moja Mutaho to the west. The South African combat troops in the DRC were trained in jungle warfare by Colonel William Dixon, who had just returned from battling 7000 Seleka rebels with 200 paratroopers and special forces operatives in the Central African Republic. On August 23, soon after M23 shelled Munigi base, the UN war machine sprang into action to support a Congolese army attack. The Battle of Kibati would last almost three days. Lieutenant Bubele Zote had a bird’s-eye view of the fight while providing co-ordinates for mortar and artillery fire. Attack helicopters pounding M23 positions were initially ineffective because the rebels had dug themselves in too deeply. “Every night convoys would be seen removing the M23 dead from the battlefield,” said Zote. Next came the ground assaults. This was extreme combat terrain. The Route Nationale 2 runs north from Goma parallel to the Rwandan border through a jumble of rolling hills, steep, densely wooded cones separated by grassy plains and rugged fields of razor-sharp rock spewed out by the majestic Nyiragongo volcano. Opportunities for ambushes, sniper hides, concealed machine-gun and mortar nests, command posts and high-lying trenches for small-arms firing positions were legion. Fuller’s Task Group Alpha made several advances in the next two days, sending snipers and Congolese special forces to within 1km of M23 positions to take out strategic targets, including the anti-tank weapon. Mamadu confirmed that a South African sniper had a major impact on the battle by killing six M23 officers in one day, including a spectacular shot at a distance of 2.125km. This is the sixth-longest confirmed sniper kill in the world. Gysman described the sniper, who did not want to be identified, as “a very proficient shottist”. On Thursday, Fuller had a brush with death. He was directing mortar fire at Triple Towers 2.5km from the south with the Congolese army closing in from the west. “Then the M23 picked up my position.” Shells started raining on the roofs of his Mambas. He ordered his men inside the vehicles while machine gunners on their roofs returned fire. He shouted to Tanzanian Major Khatib Mshindo that they should withdraw. Seconds later, a shell landed between Mshindo’s legs. Fuller yelled for a medic and was mid-sentence when another shell landed between his legs. Luckily, the soft ground absorbed most of the blast, although the vehicles to his left and right were peppered with shrapnel. “It was just not my time,” he said. Mshindo was not so lucky. He was evacuated to the base and died of his wounds. Rifleman Asanda Bisha operated a Mamba machine gun during the fight. “It was scary when the bombs started falling,” he said. He continued to return fire and scan the horizon to select targets with his binoculars. “You get scared of being shot and you have to shoot back. But there are others in the vehicle you have to protect.” The final push happened on Friday morning with the Ukrainian helicopters “striking like hell and making a success of it this time”, in Gysman’s words. Simultaneous pounding by Tanzanian artillery and South African mortars continued, destroying M23 rations and weapons caches. When “the target was soft”, Fuller and Mamadu were sent to storm the hill. By noon, the Battle of Kibati was over, leaving about 500 M23 rebels dead, bringing to an end democratic South Africa’s most successful military operation. Captain risked his life for a stranger Captain Reagan Campher was riding in the lead vehicle of a convoy of three Mambas in hot pursuit of a detachment of M23 rebels when the ambush was sprung. That morning, the South African and Tanzanian soldiers of the UN’s Force Intervention Brigade had been put on high alert after receiving reports that a group of 20 to 30 rebels had slipped past their perimeter patrols and were heading towards their base at Kiwanja, about 80km north of Goma. Campher was a machine gun platoon commander deployed with the technical headquarters of the brigade. In early October, South African and Tanzanian troops were secretly flown over the frontline in Oryx helicopters and Ukrainian Mi-26 helicopters big enough to transport two Mambas. They were dropped at the UN base at Kiwanja, a stone’s throw from the M23’s administrative headquarters at Rutshuru. The troops spent two weeks deploying in strategic positions to block rebel escape routes as the Congolese army closed in on Rutshuru from the north, south and east, forcing the M23 to split its forces along three fronts. Because the area was heavily populated, the peacekeepers were prohibited from using artillery and mortars. They claim as a result that no civilians were killed from their operations. On October 27, rebel units trapped west of the UN cordon were trying to join their comrades retreating towards Bunagana on the Ugandan border. Campher found himself pursuing one of those M23 units. Some of the rebels took off their uniforms and fled into Kiwanja and melted into the civilian population. Others surrendered. But a small group continued east up Govender Hill on the road to Rutshuru. The peacekeepers drove three Mambas in staggered formation 50m apart, each transporting 10 soldiers and a machine gunner perched on the roof. They chose a small house as their next checkpoint. “When we got there, a rebel came out of the house spraying bullets at us with an AK47. We engaged on the left but came under fire from the right too, so I ordered my men to move back 200m,” said Campher. As his Mamba raced back down the road, he saw a Tanzanian soldier behind a bougainvillaea. “As soon as I jumped out I came under fire. My members gave covering fire as I ran,” he said. “He was lying on his face, but I found a weak pulse. I called for a medic, but he couldn’t reach us because of the volume of fire, so I dragged him back to the Mamba myself.” Rajab Ahmed Mlima, a Tanzanian special forces lieutenant, died on his way to hospital. Campher cannot explain why he had risked his life in a bid to save Mlima’s. “The good training kicked in,” he said. In such moments, time slows down. He recalls thinking about his family, “about being home”, as bullets whistled past his head. He can still see the beautiful canopy of purple flowers shading Mlima in his dying moments. Within a week, the Congolese and UN intervention brigade forces had driven the M23 rebels from Rutshuru to their last strongholds, the hills of Tzhanzu and Runyoni near Bunagana on the Ugandan border. On November 3, the rebels shelled Bunaganda from Tzhanzu, killing six civilians. The next day, the UN deployed Rooivalk helicopters. Three Rooivalks had arrived in Goma a week earlier. At 5pm on November 4, two Rooivalks fired dozens of rockets at M23 bunkers on Tzhanzu and Runyoni, destroying an anti-aircraft gun. “It was the first ever deployment of the Rooivalks and it was highly successful,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Altin Gysman, officer commanding the 6 SA Infantry Battalion. “We achieved final destruction of M23 by Rooivalk.” hey kept their cool as all hell broke loose in jungle battle They came out of nowhere, charging down the hill firing wildly, high on banana spirits and wearing war charms they were convinced could turn bullets into water. It was 4am. A heavy mist had descended on the camp, leaving it in pitch darkness. They came in waves from the south, east and north, firing from 300m, then 80m, then 2m, yelling in Swahili that they wanted food and weapons. Four machine guns perched on a hill 200m away kept up a steady stream of fire. On April 30, Mai Mai warriors of General Janvier Karayiri’s Patriotic Alliance for a Free and Sovereign Congo were intent on overrunning the UN base at Nyiabiondo, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), a small town in the mountainous jungles that rise beyond the fertile plains of Masisi, 70km west of the provincial capital, Goma. And the soldiers of 6 SA Infantry Battalion — whose home base is Grahamstown in the Eastern Cape — were determined to stop them. Captain David Williams was in charge of Alpha Company — 145 men equipped with Mamba armoured personnel carriers, R4 rifles, machine guns, mortars and grenade launchers. They formed part of the UN’s Force Intervention Brigade supporting a force of 200 DRC soldiers camped nearby. Their job was to disarm the Mai Mai rebels operating in these mountains and kill those who resisted. Williams had received intelligence the night before that an attack was planned. His troops were battle-ready and he was not too concerned. “Until then, we believed that wherever the FIB is the Mai Mai will run away,” said Williams. The rebels had fled from engagements in early April, when Karayiri’s men had occupied strategic heights west and north of Nyiabiondo. At that time, the Force Intervention Brigade had sent 35 vehicles to the area from its base 70km away at Sake, near Goma. It had been a 10-hour drive on atrocious roads — and the South Africans had then walked for another eight hours into the mountains, a company of Congolese soldiers carrying their heavy weapons and ammunition. Three Rooivalk attack helicopters were on stand-by at Goma airport, a mere 10-minute flight away. Each time the South Africans advanced and launched a mortar attack, the rebels — armed with machine guns, assault rifles, mortars and 12-barrel anti-aircraft rocket launchers — retreated to the northwest until they reached Mount Sinai. Then the Rooivalks were called in. “Each of them made six turns. The rebels — those who were still alive — withdrew,” said Williams. But Karayiri’s attack on April 30 disproved the theory that the Mai Mai would run at the first whiff of cordite. “All hell broke loose that morning,” said Williams. “Bullets were flying through our tents and sleeping bags.” The attackers were wearing Congolese army uniforms, making it almost impossible to tell friend from foe. “It took great discipline for the men to fire only when they were ordered to do so,” said Williams. He deployed his men and machine guns on the left and right perimeter, ordering them to fire simultaneously when he launched a second flare. By the end of the three-hour battle, nine Congolese soldiers had been killed, several were injured, dozens of Mai Mai of a force of 100 were dead and three South Africans were wounded. One of them, Rifleman Sthabiso Mazibuko, was seriously hurt, but he has made an almost full recovery. Williams made frantic calls for an Oryx helicopter to evacuate the wounded. For one excruciating hour the men waited in suspense. “I was worried about my man bleeding to death. You could hear the Oryx’s rotors overhead, but they couldn’t land until 8am because the mist was too thick,” said Williams. After his wounded troops were evacuated, Williams jumped into a second Oryx, which was carrying forward air controller Major Peet Venter. Venter guided the Rooivalks in their attack on the fleeing Mai Mai, whom they spotted from the air. “We decided not to pursue them into the jungle on foot,” said Williams. “They could have surrounded us easily. It would have been a suicide mission. And we didn’t want to leave the civilians behind unprotected.” Karayiri claimed to be defending the local people against “foreign invaders and their allies”. These “allies” included the FDLR — originally made up of former genocidaires (French for “mass killers”) and Rwandan army units who had fled to the DRC after the 1994 genocide — M23 rebels, who the UN said were trained, sponsored, equipped and sometimes led by Rwandans, and notorious Rwanda-aligned local militiaman Ntabo Ntaberi Sheka. He is accused of ordering mass rapes and beheadings. Most observers believe that both the Patriotic Alliance and its rivals are simply squabbling over control of lucrative diamond, gold and tin mines. Following the defeat of the M23 on November 4, the overall UN military commander, Lieutenant-General Alberto dos Santos Cruz, gave all rebels until December 5 to lay down their arms and surrender or be hunted down and killed. During this period, South African troops were engaged in skirmishes with Mai Mai groups around Kitchanga, west of Rutshuru, the former M23 administrative headquarters. Late in November, 6 SA Infantry’s Alpha and Bravo companies were airlifted to Pinga, where locals were being raped and murdered. “I deployed my platoons and recces to protect the local population,” said Bravo company commander Captain Carl Fuller. “We made it clear to Sheka that we were not going to tolerate these murders and rapes and clashes with other groupings.” The day the FIB force landed in Pinga, Sheka “gave a clear indication” that he wanted to surrender, said Fuller. Within days, he held a “farewell parade” for the UN commanders, surrendering one platoon that included children, a mortar, a rusted mortar shell that “I think came from World War 1”, 15 rounds of ammunition and one pistol. “He was clearly trying to bulls**t us,” said Fuller. That night, Sheka and his men vanished into the mountains. “He didn’t arrive for an appointment the next day. We tried to locate him, but the locals refused to give us any information. We went on vehicle patrols and aerial reconnaissance, but Sheka was nowhere to be seen. He was a ghost.” The South Africans were withdrawn to Goma in January, but Sheka, who commands about 3000 men, attacked Pinga again within a week, prompting the UN to redeploy them. “When the Force Intervention Brigade is not there, the rebels take over,” said Fuller. Nyiabiondo was the last battle fought by 6 SA Infantry Battalion before it returned to Grahamstown on May 28. It was replaced by 5 SA Infantry Battalion, based in Ladysmith. The relieving force is supporting Congolese troops in driving the remaining Mai Mai rebels into a cordon in the mountains north of Masisi and preparing for a final ground and air assault. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:10pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Ingwe missile will not win you a war. The most powerful weapons in South African military are imported, Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Type 209 Submarine, and Olifant tank, IRIS-T missile, Starstreak missile, Milan missile, Paveway Guided bombs....and the list goes on..... . |
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