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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:48pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
DieVluit: Bla bla bla. It's nothing but a cheap propaganda video. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:49pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
EVarn: Are you living in dream land? Can't you see those were vehicles which were used by your military in their battle against terror. Why is it that we should always teach you about Nigeria from thousands of kilometres away? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:50pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
EVarn: This is where we disagree. I don't support him. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:53pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Henry120: It wasn't made on the moon though and that's not toy equipment. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:53pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
EVarn: That will only amount to sttupidity of the worst order. Sorry, I can never stoop to that low. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 1:54pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Henry120: Spoils of war my friend, spoils of war. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:55pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Henry120: Bihari is the best leader though. I think only on the security arena but not on the aspects of economy. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:58pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Let's not forget that yesterday, we were made to look at a picture of an armoured vehicle 'captured from BH'. What's with the demands for "one-sidedness"? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:01pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
dont fall to terrorist propaganda,when the were capturing these tanks,were the troops hands tied to a streetlamp?,how could they have capture all that without resistance?,all those APCs,tanks and weapons are enough to kill them{terrorists} in hordes. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:01pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Patchesagain: No, you have voodoo logic to show your dullness in the skull Your SAN Valour frigate Exocet block 2 missiles are out-dated and replaced by Block 3 version, so your warships have useless missiles. China just developed a new wire guided missile in 2000s, they are NOT obsolete, the world is still developing and using wire guided missiles because they cannot be jammed by smoke like your laser missiles. Only wire guided missiles can turn around corners to hit target, laser missiles like your foolish Ingwe are forced to travel only in straight lines or else they miss target. You say Egyptian Swingfires are vehicle mounted, now show us photo of ALL Egyptian Swingfire launchers to prove your fairy tale. Swingfire is still in use by oil rich countries, all want to keep their powerful Swingfire missiles that cannot be jammed like the smoke defeated Ingwe. Saudi Arabia with one of the best equipped armies in the world still uses her Swingfire missiles. Then you say Swingfire has to be driven around by vehicle to kill, yet you say Egypt has replaced its man-portable systems with Javelin, well photo below shows Javelin being used to kill without being mounted on a vehicle, DENEL South Africa in 2013 last year developed new Ingwe missile without vehicle to be fixed on a tripod stand, so the newest Ingwe 2013 system cannot kill? Your fake voodoo logic.... .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:08pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Patchesagain: Egyptian army is more powerful than British army today Egypt still uses Swingfire like Nigeria . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:08pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
mzilakazi: But the security arena has started affecting the economy. Well, that and silly "threats" to other countries. http://businessdayonline.com/2014/11/cbn-intervention-fails-to-halt-naira-slide-as-investors-exit-nigerian-debt/ CBN intervention fails to halt naira slide as investors exit Nigerian debt The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) intervened with $200 million sales on Monday but failed to lift the naira which fell by about 1.4 percent to close at N168.10 against the greenback, dealers said as foreign investors continued to exit Nigerian assets. The unit closed at N165.90 against the dollar on Friday. Foreign investors are exiting naira denominated assets as the twin spectre of a hit to oil companies and bank earnings and potential devaluation of the naira or depletion of reserves weigh on sentiment. “There is a risk that the current oil-price weakness and deteriorating exchange rate outlook will translate into further foreign selling of Nigerian debt. Fixed income portfolio outflows have gathered pace over the past few weeks, probably reaching around $ 700-800mn since mid-October,” said Standard Chartered analysts led by Samir Gadio, Head of the banks Africa Strategy and FICC Research. Foreign holdings of Nigerian debt fell to around $8.5bn in June ($ 4bn in T-bills and $4.5bn in bonds) from $ 11bn in December 2013, according to data from Standard Chartered. A further $10bn worth of Nigerian equities is held by foreign investors, Standard Chartered says. Nigerian equities have lost N2.3 trillion in market capitalisation since October 10, data compiled by BusinessDay show. The CBN has attempted to stem the decline in the naira with recent policy changes. The CBN on Thursday directed forex demand for the importation of finished goods, electronics, IT, Telecoms equipment, generators, and invisible transactions to the interbank market and away from the official window, which offers forex at a considerable lower rate. The apex bank also placed a cap on bank deposits that earn interest in the Standing Lending Facility at N7.5 billion. This cap will result in banks diverting funds to Treasury bills, putting further downward pressure on yields and making the T- bills less attractive to foreign investors, analysts say, adding that a devaluation of the currency may be on the cards. “Chronicling Nigeria’s macro-economic variables such as crude oil price, political events, security concerns in the North East, Foreign Portfolio Investors’ sentiment, amongst others, devaluation of the local currency is definitely imminent; the question is when it would be,” said Oladipupo Dauda, an analyst at Investment – One financial services Ltd. “While it might be a tough call to take on devaluation barely three months to the general election, it seems it is the astute thing to do at this point in time, considering the haemorrhaging effect uncertainty around the local currency forces on the financial markets…an adjustment in the FX band is much needed to bring some calm to the markets going into the November 25th meeting.” Rising long – end bond yields (up by an average of 100-150bps from August lows) suggest that market players and investors are increasingly worried about the re-pricing of the curve likely to be triggered by pressure on the exchange rate, said Gadio. “Given asymmetric risks to bond yields, there is little incentive to remain at the long end of the curve, considering the duration-compounded losses that are likely to materialise,” Gadio said. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:16pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
DieVluit: That is true. The economists have already pointed it out that the insurgency in Nigeria will affect their economic growth starting from next year if they do not address in time. The oil rich Iraq has found itself sliding on the same scale that could see Nigeria following the suit. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:17pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Patchesagain: The Swingfire launcher releases smoke, blocks Ingwe laser lights, wastes all 3 ingwes as each one is launched. Ratel becomes defenceless, Swingfire launcher sees smoke clear off (smoke is air swept, it clears quickly) then fires Swingfire, Ingwe perishes forever, PITY The above is what is called BATTLEFIELD TACTICS, only the war skilled knows those things, they study your weapon, take advantage of your weapon's weakness, use the advantage of their own weapon to defeat you.....BATTLEFIELD TACTICS for each weapon vs weapon engagement is not available for South Africans to copy and paste online. Naija Ninjas will continue to shock Southies. PITY |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:17pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Henry120:indeed,i do not support him too per se,but GEJ is too soft....too weak,he isnt a wartime president,though he has definitely done a fantastic{miraculous even} job with the economy and infracstructure but he is definitely no buhari,he doesnt have the brutality buhari possess,he lacks military vibe.if there was another strong candidate{preferably a balance of the two} ,then i would have supported him,but as it is,only buhari has the military capacity,and ruthlessness.the only other alternative i see is for GEJ to appoint a more capable COAS{like ihejerika},then i would be good with him. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:22pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Patchesagain: The shell will hit target at 7km with multiple fires, less accurate but still deadly with multiple fire. Bullets kill at their max range, just needs multiple rounds to make up for deflection. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:23pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
mzilakazi:*surprised* even you know stupidity when you sense one?...okay,show me a normal picture of yourself in training or in action,or is that still too low for you? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:27pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Patchesagain: Nope. liar. MONUSCO has about 20 countries, and some of them joined FIB to defeat M23. Ukraine is from MONUSCO, yet their Mi-35 Hinds joined Rooivalk to attack M23 since the Rooivalk was poorly armed with only one French gun and some dumb European rockets. MONUSCO and FIB fought together, and in FIB only Tnazania used D-30 long range artillery to subdue M23, Tanzania also planned and commanded South Africa in FIB, the brain that defeated M23 is Tanzanian brain, South African military has no brain to win a war . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:29pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
mzilakazi: Go handle your rifle in front of Seleka rebels and get back your SANDF Gecko vehicles . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:31pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Henry120: It features multi-million dollar armoured vehicals... so its not cheap at all. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:31pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: For your info, smoke does not jam laser guided missile per se, it only consumes the laser. It will, however, belong on the experience of the personnel to take out the target by opting for alternatives. Missiles are said to have an impact that could destroy anything on the vicinity of its explosion due to radiation. The most effective alternative is to target the ground near where the tank discharges the smoke. The smoke is an unreliable countermeasure and is dependant on the weather, something which you can never bargain on. Practically, it has never been proven to work other than claims by certain militaries. Instead many militaries have come with a body armour which has capability of absorbing laser but still it does not take consideration of impact from explosion. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:32pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Apparently sh*t happens. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:33pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
ActivateKruger: Show me a neutral source to prove that claim, not your usual Southie propaganda machinery news of deception . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:34pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: What are you even talking about? ATGM's going around corners? Demands that i get egypt to get all their swingfires in one place so i can take photo's of them? this: agaugust: doesnt even make any sense. And yes, Wire-guided can be jammed by smoke... if the operator cannot see the target, he does not know what to shoot at. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:35pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: Egypt more powerfull than the British Army? O MY GOD You have proceeded to full mental impairment |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:39pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: Those geckos were already removed from SANDF inventory the moment they left the shores of our country. We have plenty more of geckos and they are merely used as patrol than battle vehicles. They were formally used by special forces as vehicles that could maneuver mortar attacks but now they use something new. Those vehicles were of course going to be left behind even after the mission was complete. No vehicle leave SA unless has been paid for in advance, ask the UN. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:41pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: Why would the Ratel ZT3 fire all three at once? What will happen is: 1. Ratel ZT3's fire first slavoe of Ingwe from a distance of 5km 2. Nigerian Armour cannot detect Ingwe because lol no laser warning 3. Numerous Nigerian tanks explode as though they were made from pure explodium 4. Surviving Nigerian tanks deploy smoke - because Nigeria has no weapon that can reach the Ingwe's which are 5km away 5. Smoke clears - Nigeria prepares to engage the ZT3's... but they are no where to be seen (what is shoot and scoot?) 6. While scanning for the ZT3's andother batch of Nigerian vehicals explode... This happens two more times, once ZT3's have expended all their ammunition... they pull back to reload in safety. That is battlefield tactics. Conclusion: Ingwe > Swingfire Sub Conclusion: SANDF Armor > Nigerian Armor 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:41pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
mzilakazi: He's a coup plotter, nothing democratic about him. A person who can't manage his own finances can't claim to posses the know how to manage the economy. The economy is growing at an impressive rate, what is needed is continuity of policies. He's no where near the best, neither is there any proof he has any better security credentials. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:42pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: Fire once and every single commander on the battle-feild will be calling mortars and arty on you. You think we will just sit back and allow you to fire 5 or six times to get your sights in? Joker. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:44pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: Nope. FIB was the only MONUSCO unit that was allowed to attack M23, Indians were breifly involved in the Defence of Goma (which they failed at) before the FIB was deployed. Rooivalk was called in because the Hind was found to be unable to be effective SANDF units were commanded by South Africans. Dude, this is established fact. I have no idea why you continue to dispute these facts. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:46pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
agaugust: Maybe you should be more worried about getting millions of dollars worth of equipment back from Boko Haram 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:47pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Henry120: Bihari is however more militant than your sissy Jonathan. That impressive growth rate of economy will be in danger if you do not address your security issues in no time. 1 Like |
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