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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Olufemiolaolu(m): 11:37am On Nov 12, 2014
If they like let dem be importing a trllion weapon everyday,dat wont solve d problem. The weakest opponent can win d most formidable opponent because of sound military strategy n tactics. y is boko haram having d upper hand in dis war? its simply because they know they av lesser men n they re making use of surprise attack. Nigera military need 2 upgrade their intelligence unit. what did gej achieve with d lion share of yester years security budgets?

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Nobody: 11:58am On Nov 12, 2014
Is this the reason why the military has started releasing detainees? And their pet media houses were praising their generosity and kindness. I'm more disgusted with Nigeria than I've ever been in my life.
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by PStacks(m): 11:58am On Nov 12, 2014
Nawa ooo! We are not just and embarrasment to ourselves, we are now laffing stock in international community. What a shame. What a disgrace, what an embarrassment to the one Time Giant Of Africa..

First I read CNN banned Political adverts from Nigeria, as if that was not enough, now its more international media reporting nigerian situation to Nigerians, What a shame mehn! I feel really sad.

These people know what is happening in our country more than we think they know, yet even we in the country just take it with a pinch of salt.

Nigeria is a good child that goes bad when the dad is not around.

Nigerians need focused and Disciplined Leadership for other Nigerian to take que from, so much chaos, so much disorder, so much corruption, rowdiness, too much randomness, no due-process whatsoever, no fair even playing fields, no form of National integration and identification whatsoever. Just a country for anything and anybody and anyhow.

Nigerians are exceptional people. Like real Wonderful people.. Like Amazing People.


America should be careful not to sell arms to the wrong set of people ooo, because in nigeria as it stands today, there are lots of arms in the hands of plenty wrong people.

Or how else can we explain possession of superior arms by Boko haram and military is not even ashamed to admit it.

It tells us, something is fundamentally wrong.

If nigeria want to be proliferating in arms, then it doesn't augur well for our country Nigeria.

When all u keep hearing is arms deal, it means Nigeria is heading to become the next "Libya" in Africa.

The question is, who is fighting who?

Why and for what reasons are we killing ourselves?

Until some fundamental questions are answered truthfully, this country is not even yet on the road to redemption.


Sometimes I wonder, how have we fallen this low, the next thing I see is we have fallen lower. How low can we accept to fall collectively as a people. Until we fall lowest and hit Rock bottom, we can never bounce back and start rising.

We as a people must determine our lowest, like, Humanity should never be degraded beyound this such limits. Until when our shared humanity is more important to us than what seperates us in, Religion, Tribe and tongues, proper social stratification, due-process, laid down orders and procedures are followed, until we adopt unism and oneness, togetherness, until we embrace each other, we can't be One!

Which leads me to ask!

Has Nigerians ever been One?

I don't think there ever was a time after Independence that Nigeria was One Country!

Maybe that was immediately after the Independence, people were happy they were finally independent from the colonial masters and agreed to live as one.


I argue that, after receiving independence from the white, we found out our differences and we needed to have gotten a 2nd independence from ourselves..


I think that, long time ago, since the civil war, if u ask my opinion, there was no just reason for the civil war..

Let The Biafra Nation Govern themselves.

Let the Arewa Nation Govern themselves,

Let the Oduduwa People be for themselves..

That way, there would be healthy and brotherly competition, there would be healthy rivalry and some form of inter regional co-operation.

Right now as a nation, we are not coperating within ourselves, our competition is unhealthy, as a matter of fact, there is "Hate". Maybe the hausa man hates the igbo man of a truth? Who knows?

We do not appreciate our Diversity. Until we appreciate our diversity, we can never even draw strength from any form of division.

We are a divided people and yet we say our strength is from our Diversity!

I'm sorry Nigeria isn't even a Nation.

Our Nationhood is just from our independence from the whites, we were not even prepared for Independence,
At independence somebody just rushed painted Green white Green, no creativity whatsoever in it, Do you know how Americans Value the American Flag? Do you know how much Respect and Power is behind That American Flag? Do you know the stories, the struggles and the travails?

Nigerians are like lucky spoilt kids. U have all the vegetation, all the mineral resources, all the Crude, all the everything, just name it, but where is the Country?

Even Abroad, Nigerian Doctors break records.

Nigerian Students Smash CGPA's,

Nigerian scientist does this and does that, But where is the Country Nigeria?

People must stand to defend this country.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Guyman02: 12:07pm On Nov 12, 2014
The problem is that the Govt is being conscious not to upset Washington by taking the path Egypt took when US stopped selling arms to them by going to buy from Russia who are in conflict currently with the West and with the elections coming, they West can easily sabotage the country using our religious divide and arming Boko Haram with more sophisticated weapons as they have done in many middle east countries where Mullahs are infiltrated to groom terrorists and suicide bombers for US interests through the CIA and Mossad.

Israel gets the biggest supply of weapons from US and have never being accused of Human Rights violation even when they drop bombs on UN schools in Gaza killing hundreds of children.

US is not an ally, they dont want Nigeria to advance. Libya under Gaddafi became the country in Africa with the highest standard of living better than most EU countries which was seen as an abnormally by the West who went in there, armed jihadists, killed the man and left Libya in total chaos now.
Lets think inward about how to be self reliant on some areas.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by jonuel1(m): 12:09pm On Nov 12, 2014
[quote author=egift post=27936186]Story for mami-water. Keep spraying cluelessness and bringing shame on Nigerians just because you are serving under a Zoologist.[/quote

You are cluelessness personified!

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by loswhite(m): 12:16pm On Nov 12, 2014
DRealGeesam:

Check this list
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

They developed their own nuclear weapons program and built nuclear weapons. They only peacefully stopped the program in line with the nuclear warheads disarmament sanctioned by the United Nations.
Pls pick ur arguments from historical facts.

The point is, if they could have achieved it, cant we? Is Iran richer than us? Do they have more professors and engineers?
My post is to challenge us to rise up and fulfill our potential.

From the 1960s to the 1980s, South Africa pursued research into weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. Six nuclear weapons were assembled. Before the anticipated changeover to a majority-elected African National Congress government in the 1990s, the South African government dismantled all of its nuclear weapons, the first nation in the world which voluntarily gave up all nuclear arms it had developed itself. The last time I check South Africa independence was in 1994 and pls don't remind me of the apartheid history where minority white where in control and the real South Africans had no right then.
My point is, presently South Africa do not have nuclear weapons as you claimed in your first post. Going into history, I agree with your other post but it is also misleading , since we know South Africa gained independence in 1994. Those nuclear research was done and the weapon assembled b4 1990.
My point is, if Britain decide to build nuclear weapon in 1920 in Nigeria and dismantle it before 1960, can we claim that Nigeria has developed nuclear weapons? Pls take note of the bolded.
I understand your point but your information was misleading
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by AjanleKoko: 12:17pm On Nov 12, 2014
mbulela:


Some of you are almost delusional in your optimism. I often wonder which reality your hope is based on? You see a ship sinking fast under the gudiance of an inept captain and you are talking plenty. Nigerians like you actually think America does not have more important things to worry about. Get serious!

The fact is, Nigerians probably deserve Jonathan.
I am actually convinced at this stage that Nigerians have zero priorities, and as such can be led by just about anybody. The closer you are to the dumbed-down line of thinking, the more acceptable you are as a candidate.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by simplisity(m): 12:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
Obama and his government knew what they r doing and they r enjoying bit of it. They r punishing Nigeria indirectly because we refused to sign d homosexual or same sex bill. Y didnt u ask y Briton is not helping Nigeria, it is bcs they r d major masterminder of same sex. If not that our security system is corrupt and infitrated wit boko haram spies,especialy d army force that have jeorpadised all d efforts made by our President to stop terrorism, this boko haram would have been a thing of past. R u sure their arms r not been supplied by westerners?
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by simplisity(m): 12:23pm On Nov 12, 2014
Obama and his government knew what they r doing and they r enjoying a bit of it. They r punishing Nigeria indirectly because we refused to sign d homosexual or same sex bill. Y didnt u ask y Briton is not helping Nigeria, it is bcs they r d major masterminder of same sex. If not that our security system is corrupt and infitrated wit boko haram spies,especialy d army force that have jeorpadised all d efforts made by our President to stop terrorism, this boko haram would have been a thing of past. R u sure their arms r not been supplied by westerners?

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by RaptorX: 12:24pm On Nov 12, 2014
kendrick93:
south africa has nuclear power? u must be dreaming...
They had nuclear weapons during the white apartheid government, but it was dismantled before they handed over to the
black led govt in 1994. They dont trust the black man with a nuclear weapon, and i support their decision, i wouldnt support Jacob Zuma having access to nukes either.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by chomygolden(f): 12:47pm On Nov 12, 2014
Is it the USA that brought boko boys to stay,abeg no be by force to sell arms to you. undecided

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by ogbonoeba: 12:48pm On Nov 12, 2014
DRealGeesam:
Hmmmm. But seriously there LOTS of countries that are willing to sell to us and dont give a damn about USA policies, why cant we patronize them.

Blaming USA for our whoas is getting stale, we are at war, we cant keep being the cry baby of the world.

It is also high time our government start investing heavily in Research and Development. Who says we cant build our own weapons?

South Africa has nuclear weapon, North Korea that is far poorer than Nigeria has good weapons development programs. What are we still waiting for

Money being spent on pilgrimage, should be diverted into Research and Development, In technology and medicine. Of what national benefit is the pilgrimage our government spends billions on, sending thousands of people to Mecca and Jerusalem.

We had better wake from our silly slumber

How can a country be so blessed and rich as Nigeria and we cant invest in weapons developments, then why do we have so many first class engineers in the first place?

I was at the Airforce Industries, Kaduna about 4 years ago. Honestly things are still archaic there. We are not at par with this decade at all.

USA is world power today, because they invested in research and development not sponsoring their people on pilgrimage to mecca and jerusalem.

NIGERIA!!! WAKE UP!!!

Haba!

Post advert today and ask nigerians to volunteer in weapons development and see how you will be flooded with ideas and men of great knowledge

It wont be easy as ABC, but it is not that difficult too if there is visionary leadership. FACT: India is already sending men to space and probes to the moon and Mars (they where the first to discover water on the moon) yet they got independence only 13 years ahead of Nigeria

Nigerian leaders lack strategic long term vision. Yet, we still have people supporting the same fools to be re-elected. Oya, America has humiliated Nigeria and will continue to do so in the future. See how we are shaking in our boots because of oil price decline. America has started drilling oil.

America can sell to whomever they want to. We can buy weapons from whomever we want. We better wake up and start acting like the "giant of Africa."

By the way what kind of weapons are they trying to buy that they don't already have? If it is intercontinental ballistic missiles, that's ok, but if it's small arms then the government should be ashamed for not having stok piles ready for war.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by duni04(m): 12:55pm On Nov 12, 2014
Guyman02:
The problem is that the Govt is being conscious not to upset Washington by taking the path Egypt took when US stopped selling arms to them by going to buy from Russia who are in conflict currently with the West and with the elections coming, they West can easily sabotage the country using our religious divide and arming Boko Haram with more sophisticated weapons as they have done in many middle east countries where Mullahs are infiltrated to groom terrorists and suicide bombers for US interests through the CIA and Mossad.

Israel gets the biggest supply of weapons from US and have never being accused of Human Rights violation even when they drop bombs on UN schools in Gaza killing hundreds of children.

US is not an ally, they dont want Nigeria to advance. Libya under Gaddafi became the country in Africa with the highest standard of living better than most EU countries which was seen as an abnormally by the West who went in there, armed jihadists, killed the man and left Libya in total chaos now.
Lets think inward about how to be self reliant on some areas.
Nigeria is already buying weapons from Russia. God knows why our politicians are still trying to make the US the scape goat for their failure in dealing with boko haram.
http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-russia-to-supply-nigeria-arms/

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by lucianohase(m): 1:10pm On Nov 12, 2014
fitzmayowa:
If the US won't sell arms to nigeria to defeat, this rag heads...why don't we turn to china or russia

I wonder the kind of stvpid ally we are doing with US, an ally that is covertly supporting rag heads...Yet they accuse soldiers of human right violation...

I wonder what BH as been violating since 2002...Yeye ally whose main objective is to invade nigeria...SMH
US government are double standard idiots. They accuse Nigerian military of violating the human rights of BH detainees....human rights indeed! I know in their hearts they are laughing and jubilating.Well one thing I know, is that BH will definitely be conquered and their predictions won't come to pass in Nigeria rather, their prediction will materialize on their own country when they least expected. As for our government,they should buy from Russia and China,am quite sure they won't hesitate to sell.
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by texazzpete(m): 1:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
manutdadex:
if they are so concernd abt human rites voilations, wat abt d ones voiletd by BH: freedom to life, to worship, of speech, killin d unarmed, children,student,aged etc? u.S na hypocrate. Now am sure we knw our enemies and friends.

You mean the same Boko Haram the US designated a terrorist group ages ago?

Why are most of you so uninformed?

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by texazzpete(m): 1:26pm On Nov 12, 2014
lucianohase:
US government are double standard idiots. They accuse Nigerian military of violating the human rights of BH detainees.

Boko Haram detainees, eh? You mean like those 200 innocent people the Nigerian Army just released after illegal detention of up to 2+ years? The ones they had to apologize to a pay a negligible sum of 100k?

I cannot understand you people. So many posts I read here, I have to facepalm really hard. Even with 100% hard evidence that many innocent people are being picked up and treated cruelly in the attempt to purge Boko Haram, you still insist nothing wrong is going on.

Smh

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by lucianohase(m): 1:43pm On Nov 12, 2014
bunmioguns:
The truth is

they dont trust this present administration



and they are trying to save lots of innocent citizens











America can not be more concerned about u and ur country than u and I. For instance,look at what is happening in the middle east! A lot of civilian casualty from isreali bomb shell yet,the holy almighty america keep selling arms to them.But in nigeria's case,its different!! Listen,until we as Nigerians and africans see this US government for who they truly are,we'll always remain to be deceived! They pretend they care yet in their closet,they don't. I remember desmond tutu once said that when the white man came to us,they said "let's pray!".Before then,we had our land they had the bible, but, after the prayers,we had the bible,they had our land. Don't ever think that US care about the Nigerian citizenry,if they really care,they would v sold those weapons to our military. The only thing they enjoy doing is to be quick to condemn attack by BH on media but in their closet,they are laughing n probably saying"all is going according to plan". But one thing I know is, they will plan and their plan won't work against us.
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by lucianohase(m): 1:46pm On Nov 12, 2014
Guyman02:
The problem is that the Govt is being conscious not to upset Washington by taking the path Egypt took when US stopped selling arms to them by going to buy from Russia who are in conflict currently with the West and with the elections coming, they West can easily sabotage the country using our religious divide and arming Boko Haram with more sophisticated weapons as they have done in many middle east countries where Mullahs are infiltrated to groom terrorists and suicide bombers for US interests through the CIA and Mossad.

Israel gets the biggest supply of weapons from US and have never being accused of Human Rights violation even when they drop bombs on UN schools in Gaza killing hundreds of children.

US is not an ally, they dont want Nigeria to advance. Libya under Gaddafi became the country in Africa with the highest standard of living better than most EU countries which was seen as an abnormally by the West who went in there, armed jihadists, killed the man and left Libya in total chaos now.
Lets think inward about how to be self reliant on some areas.
U r ryt !
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by lucianohase(m): 1:58pm On Nov 12, 2014
texazzpete:


Boko Haram detainees, eh? You mean like those 200 innocent people the Nigerian Army just released after illegal detention of up to 2+ years? The ones they had to apologize to a pay a negligible sum of 100k?

I cannot understand you people. So many posts I read here, I have to facepalm really hard. Even with 100% hard evidence that many innocent people are being picked up and treated cruelly in the attempt to purge Boko Haram, you still insist nothing wrong is going on.

Smh
what u r saying in essence is that our military should not source for more sophisticated weapons to crush BH who have sophisticated weapons and are expanding and their control daily by killing women, pupils and innocent nigerians? Let me understand,is that what u are saying?
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Horus(m): 2:05pm On Nov 12, 2014
Boko Haram got their arms from the US. Do your own research and realise that America is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by mbulela: 2:07pm On Nov 12, 2014
DRealGeesam:



The point is, if they could have achieved it, cant we? Is Iran richer than us? Do they have more professors and engineers?
My post is to challenge us to rise up and fulfill our potential.

It is not a matter of quantity,it's about quality.
See the dull clueless phd holder presently sitting in Aso rock. Will you count him when counting phd holders?

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by dammilotun(m): 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
No sane nation empowers a reckless and insensitive leader like ours.......selling arm to us at this time when peeps are desperate to cling to power and some to lay hold on power is like empowering fools for the day of battle.I rise!

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by TS2(m): 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
Nigerian leaders are not serious about bringing this insurgency matter to closure. If I try to purchase arms from America and from areas within their sphere of influence to no avail then you should just pivot to the East. SIMPLE! China and Russia, the latter especially will be delighted to sell arms to you.

Forget that bull crap talk about human rights abuses. Those guys are just funny. They will be happy to see a Nigeria engulfed by the inferno of insurgency and anarchy so that they can step in at the last mminute and act like they saved the day, set up in Nigeria like they did in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places and steal our oil and all...

But thats none of my business.
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by jornie(m): 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
abeg...Naa by force?dem no want our naira..hahn..hahn some ppl jus like to dae do gragra..
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by DobleO7: 2:23pm On Nov 12, 2014
egift:


First Nigeria will not scatter. Secondly, Jonathan is not transparent and excessively corrupt - nobody in his right mind make a deal with such person.

How can one justify smuggling money to South Africa to procure illegal arms when there legitimate ways to get it? Why is Jonathan afraid of the Front gate? Why must he always enter his good neighbour's house by jumping over the fence at the back-yard? Why is he exporting his Stealing-Is-Not-Corruption style of Government to other countries?

The Zoologist must be voted out before he sinks this nation with anarchy and corruption.


Rants will not get President Goodluck Jonathan your President out of office.
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by DobleO7: 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2014
dammilotun:
No sane nation empowers a reckless and insensitive leader like ours.......selling arm to us at this time when peeps are desperate to cling to power and some to lay hold on power is like empowering fools for the day of battle.I rise!


So the leaders of Iraq, Syria, Libya etc are reckfull and sensitive..right?
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by texazzpete(m): 2:33pm On Nov 12, 2014
lucianohase:
what u r saying in essence is that our military should not source for more sophisticated weapons to crush BH who have sophisticated weapons and are expanding and their control daily by killing women, pupils and innocent nigerians? Let me understand,is that what u are saying?

Let me understand you. You're saying you read my post ( that was written in crystal clear English) and this is what you understand from it?

Wow.

While you struggle to come up with an answer, I'd like to inform you that the United States is Not the only developed country in the world. Shocked?

Most of our attack helicopters come from Russia or ex-Sov bloc countries. Our new wave of fighter jets were bought from China just a few years back, and we have a fairly robust pilot training scheme with China. Chinese and Russian tanks and APCs are every bit as capable as the kind of hardware the U.S. would have sold to us.
So basically, using the U.S. as an excuse is just plain foolishness, madness and Imbecility when China and Russia would happily sell us whatever hardware we want.

Please read this carefully before responding. Thanks.
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by InvertedHammer: 2:40pm On Nov 12, 2014
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The same USA that refused to sell Zmapp to Nigeria to fight Ebola.

What happened to Ebola thereafter? Nigeria had to improvise and searched inwards to defeat Ebola.

Nigeria is a Sovereign nation and not the 51st State of US.

If USA wants a 51st state, it will not be a freaking n.i.g.g.a nation.

Apparently Nigerian leaders do not understand what "ally" and "friendship" mean in diplomatic term.

So Mr. Adefuye..STFU and talk to your alcoholic President to look inwards.

This madness has to stop somewhere
.


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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by bornosheikh: 2:58pm On Nov 12, 2014
Empty talk....wetin happen to weapons Boko don cart away freely!

And the ones your generals sell am?
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by lucianohase(m): 3:14pm On Nov 12, 2014
texazzpete:


Let me understand you. You're saying you read my post ( that was written in crystal clear English) and this is what you understand from it?

Wow.

While you struggle to come up with an answer, I'd like to inform you that the United States is Not the only developed country in the world. Shocked?

Most of our attack helicopters come from Russia or ex-Sov bloc countries. Our new wave of fighter jets were bought from China just a few years back, and we have a fairly robust pilot training scheme with China. Chinese and Russian tanks and APCs are every bit as capable as the kind of hardware the U.S. would have sold to us.
So basically, using the U.S. as an excuse is just plain foolishness, madness and Imbecility when China and Russia would happily sell us whatever hardware we want.

Please read this carefully before responding. Thanks.
I understood all u said quite well!
Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Nobody: 3:15pm On Nov 12, 2014
iamord:


They want crises. That's their wish
But we as africans let it come to reality
So who is really to blame.

They created countries for us.
So were are fighting for positions and supremacy.

The fasted way to peace is to stay apart a bit. Let every ethnic nationality govern themselves.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Nobody: 3:32pm On Nov 12, 2014
The Nigerian ambassador is a dweeb.

Unlike in Nigeria where everything goes, we are a country of law.

It's againt US policy to sell certain arms to states that has a record of violating the human rights of its citizens.

EOD.

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