agaugust:


Anybody can record lies on radio, we did not see video, clear video, full image video evidence.

You say Cuba did not kill SADF Olifant tanks? Here are Cuban youths disgracing South Africa in grand style....

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agaugust:


Dude stop lying, Ukrainian Hinds from MONUSCO joined SAAF Rooivalks from FIB to jointly attack M23 in final battles, that news report has been posted here many times repeatedly.

Tanzanian Brigadier General commanded the whole FIB by merging your head with that of Malawi and then submerging your heads and the Malawian heads deep under Tanzanian command, control, authority, leadership and domination....that causes you HUMILIATION

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patches689:


So now you want to include artillery?

Moving the goalposts already?

And no, Cuban and Angolan T55s did not see the ZT3 that killed them

And if you deploy smoke then you cannot advance, or else you lose your smoke cover and are a nice target for ingwe

Deploy smoke and then you get blasted by G5s and G6's from 39km away- safe from your artillery. They can also hit moving targets, and the vulture drone will not be deceived by smoke.

Also, SPGs are terrible tank destroyers.

Can I now include Rooikat, Gripen, rooivalk, olifants, Milans, Valkyrie, Hawks et al?


feel free to move the goalposts AGAIN and you will be defeated AGAIN

patches689:


Other way around- Rooivalk were called in to replace the hinds

patches689:


And I see you have already backtracked, from: "the whole world was involed" to "all 20 MONUSCO nations" to now only saying 4 were involved

The fact is that the FIB only exists because of aouth Africa

Hence the lions share of the glory goes to South Africa

agaugust:


I am not moving goal posts, I am only showing you how many different ways and means Nigerian army will waste your Ingwes and Mass M.urder Ratels.

You are the fools that believe Nigerian army has only AK-47 and Toyota Hilux. LOL

None of the SANDF equipment you listed above has any gun with 24km range direct fire mode with X8 high power magnification telescope like Nigerian Palmaria.

Ingwes and Ratels die together when they meet Nigerian army . PROVED to your chagrin
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agaugust:


They replaced nothing, they jointly fought together, that news has been posted here many times. Why are you 99% a liar in your comments?

Is there no man of honour in the whole of South Africa?

"Another South African news outlet, DefenceWeb, reported that the Rooivalks had conducted their offensive operations against M23 positions in partnership with a pair of Mil Mi-24/35 ‘Hind’ helicopters of the FIB. The report was not clear on who was operating these Hinds, but India and Ukraine are known to have contributed such helicopters to MONUSCO – the United Nations Organization Stabilization Mission in the DR Congo."

http://defense-update.com/20131107_rooivalk_combat_debut.html

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agaugust:


Nope, MONUSCO was involved in some last combat, and majorly was flank-guard and rear-guard protection for FIB, war is like that, you secure a theatre, not just a field of ops.

Tanzania brought D-30 long range artillery and used them to decimate M23, South Africa brought in Rifles, LOL, Lion share of glory goes to Tanzania, SANDF still desperate to steal UN glory because they have no other war to show the world except Seleka rebels catastrophe
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agaugust:


You don't need $50,000 missiles to kill a tank when $1,000 HEAT shell from small Sagaie or Scorpion will do the job.

Reason why SANDF-SAN does not want to use expensive Exocet against enemy gunboat, they are thinking of cheaper options, read defenseweb

There is common sense in warfare, you don't have unlimited resources to waste
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agaugust:


Your photo is likely that of a Ugandan or Somalian soldier killed by El Shabab, surely NOT Nigerian army.

Will you like it if I post Congolese dead soldiers as SANDF casualties ?
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agaugust:



Egypt about 1.5 million soldiers, about 30,000 tanks, artillery, APC, IFV, missile launchers etc

Britain about 150 thousand soldiers, about 6,000 tanks, artillery, APC, IFV, missile launchers.

You only imagine a nation is powerful because of it's name. Egypt has fought bigger modern wars against more powerful enemies than Britain has done in modern times. Britain hides many times under USA/NATO joint forces.

Even Nigeria has more artillery than Britain today, not to then mention Egypt. All Britian uses to bully people is nuclear weapons and NATO defense pact. India will defeat Britain on land, sea, and air.

Egypt will beat the British on land

Your comments are 99% voodoo logic and only 1% fact if at all there is any fact in your posts

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agaugust:


Nope, MONUSCO was involved in some last combat, and majorly was flank-guard and rear-guard protection for FIB, war is like that, you secure a theatre, not just a field of ops.

Tanzania brought D-30 long range artillery and used them to decimate M23, South Africa brought in Rifles, LOL, Lion share of glory goes to Tanzania, SANDF still desperate to steal UN glory because they have no other war to show the world except Seleka rebels catastrophe
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patches689:


Other way around- Rooivalk were called in to replace the hinds

And I see you have already backtracked, from: "the whole world was involed" to "all 20 MONUSCO nations" to now only saying 4 were involved

The fact is that the FIB only exists because of aouth Africa

South Africa was the biggest equipment provider

South Africa turned the tide with the rooivalk, sf and snipers

Hence the lions share of the glory goes to South Africa

Patchesagain:


And you forget that South Africa has more and better ways to waste your entire armored formations.

I posted a comparison between Nigerian armor and South African armor and you were so shocked and saddened that you fled the forum for a full 48 hours. Do you wish me to do it again?

And you are moving the goalposts... first we are talking Ingwe v Swingfire... now you are talking about artillery? That is literally moving the goal-posts.

ActivateKruger:


Tanzania, give us a break. Tanzania might be good (even better than Nigerian Forces) but they were nowhere close to accomplishing what we did.

They brought in artillery because they simply dragged it in from across the border, we brought in effective machines - Rooivalks. Their SF didn't conduct behind the line operations like ours, in fact there was nothing special about their SF -Parabats are a higher crop of soldiers than them.

Articles clearly state two occasions where the M23 ran across to Uganda after a defeat, first was when our Rooivalks were involved then second was when our Special Forces used snipers and mortar to overrun M23 positions which led them to flee (like Nigerian troops) to neighbouring Uganda.

Patchesagain:


Egypt about 1.5 million soldiers, about 30,000 tanks, artillery, APC, IFV, missile launchers etc

Egypt has 468,500 soldiers in its army

It has 22 000 armoured vehicals - most of which are obsolete.

Britain about 150 thousand soldiers, about 6,000 tanks, artillery, APC, IFV, missile launchers.

Some of the most advanced and best trained soldiers in the world.

Egypt has fought bigger modern wars against more powerful enemies than Britain has done in modern times.

England is one of 2 nations in earth that has fought a modern air-land-sea war

Egypt is not one of them.

Egypt has also never won a war in its modern military history. England is undefeated since the 1770's

Britain hides many times under USA/NATO joint forces.

They didnt when they crossed the globe to annihilate the Argentinians.

Egypt will beat the British on land

The Egyptian military is poorly run, has obsolete doctrine, largely obsolete equipment and has performed terribly in every single war it has ever fought - it has yet to win one.

During the Yom Kippur war a paltry Isrealy armored Divison (led by ariel sharon) defeated 800 000 Egyptian soldiers. A division defeated and trapped 3 whole army groups!! 800 000 defeated by less than 20 000!!!

You see, your understanding of military matters is the same as a childs. You think numbers are everything. They arent, they never have been and never will be. In modern warfare, quality will always defeat quantity.

agaugust:



Post your NA vs SANDF armour comparison again I dare you !

I never run from this forum, I quit once in a while when I am tired of your fraud and open lies, and I always announce my quitting with reason, even the Admirals and Generals in SANDF will not make me run away in a debate, they have military training and I have it too.

Ingwe Vs Swingfire, smoke defeats Ingwe laser lights, Ingwe can only travel in a straight line, Swingfire cannot be jammed by smoke, it's wire guidance makes it swing around corners and deceive the target, Swingfire is better than Ingwe, reason why Egypt still uses them after battle experience with Israeli tanks, and China is now making new wire guided missiles after realizing that smoke defeats laser beams.

Swingfire is superior to Ingwe based on guidance system reliability.

Nigeria has more tanks than South Africa's dry land only semi-immobile army
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agaugust:



I have proved with sources that the air war was joint operation between MONUSCO Mi-35 Hinds of Ukraine and FIB Rooivalks of South Africa, the glory belongs to United Nations led by army Generals from Brazil and Tanzania.

"Another South African news outlet, DefenceWeb, reported that the Rooivalks had conducted their offensive operations against M23 positions in partnership with a pair of Mil Mi-24/35 ‘Hind’ helicopters of the FIB. The report was not clear on who was operating these Hinds, but India and Ukraine are known to have contributed such helicopters to MONUSCO – the United Nations Organization Stabilization Mission in the DR Congo."


http://defense-update.com/20131107_rooivalk_combat_debut.html


CASE CLOSED

agaugust:


Everything you wrote above is defeated by the fact that you don't know Egypt has about 1.5 million soldiers.

About 500,000 regulars and 1 million trained reserves.

Egypt's last war with Israel was a draw/stalemate and Israel was almost overwhelmed.

Britain defeated Argentina that had zero war experience and an army of youth conscripts who surrender without common sense.

I an not comparing air and sea, I said Egyptian army is more powerful than British army today.

Egyptian equipment includes modern 1990s to 2000s year generation American-European tanks and missiles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_modern_Egyptian_Army

Britain is NOT any better, Britain is much smaller in equipment and out-numbered 10 times in infantry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Army#Weapons_inventory

You make fraudulent claims and struggle to escape the traps you set for yourself
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agaugust:



Post your NA vs SANDF armour comparison again I dare you !
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agaugust:



I never run from this forum, I quit once in a while when I am tired of your fraud and open lies, and I always announce my quitting with reason, even the Admirals and Generals in SANDF will not make me run away in a debate, they have military training and I have it too.
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agaugust:

China is now making new wire guided missiles after realizing that smoke defeats laser beams.

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agaugust:



Post your NA vs SANDF armour comparison again I dare you !

I never run from this forum, I quit once in a while when I am tired of your fraud and open lies, and I always announce my quitting with reason, even the Admirals and Generals in SANDF will not make me run away in a debate, they have military training and I have it too.

Ingwe Vs Swingfire, smoke defeats Ingwe laser lights, Ingwe can only travel in a straight line, Swingfire cannot be jammed by smoke, it's wire guidance makes it swing around corners and deceive the target, Swingfire is better than Ingwe, reason why Egypt still uses them after battle experience with Israeli tanks, and China is now making new wire guided missiles after realizing that smoke defeats laser beams.

Swingfire is superior to Ingwe based on guidance system reliability.

Nigeria has more tanks than South Africa's dry land only semi-immobile army
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agaugust:



Post your NA vs SANDF armour comparison again I dare you !

I never run from this forum, I quit once in a while when I am tired of your fraud and open lies, and I always announce my quitting with reason, even the Admirals and Generals in SANDF will not make me run away in a debate, they have military training and I have it too.
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Ingwe Vs Swingfire, smoke defeats Ingwe laser lights, Ingwe can only travel in a straight line, Swingfire cannot be jammed by smoke, it's wire guidance makes it swing around corners and deceive the target, Swingfire is better than Ingwe, reason why Egypt still uses them after battle experience with Israeli tanks, and China is now making new wire guided missiles after realizing that smoke defeats laser beams.

Swingfire is superior to Ingwe based on guidance system reliability.
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DieVluit:
You know, I was thinking -

The official story from the Nigerian military about the jet that crashed is that "we are still looking for it". That story never changed. It is funny when I see posts here complaining about "terrorist propaganda".

That's all.

mzilakazi:



Nigeria does not have anti-tank missile, hopefully they are all nonoperational. There is no need to argue on this. BH had always been roving around with APC and tanks which were way far more expensive in comparison to swingfire missile.


My conclusion stand, Nigeria does not have anti-tank missile.

agaugust:



I have proved with sources that the air war was joint operation between MONUSCO Mi-35 Hinds of Ukraine and FIB Rooivalks of South Africa, the glory belongs to United Nations led by army Generals from Brazil and Tanzania.

"Another South African news outlet, DefenceWeb, reported that the Rooivalks had conducted their offensive operations against M23 positions in partnership with a pair of Mil Mi-24/35 ‘Hind’ helicopters of the FIB. The report was not clear on who was operating these Hinds, but India and Ukraine are known to have contributed such helicopters to MONUSCO – the United Nations Organization Stabilization Mission in the DR Congo."


http://defense-update.com/20131107_rooivalk_combat_debut.html


CASE CLOSED

ActivateKruger:


On the very first attach the Rooivalks were accompanied by Hinds, but as soon as the noticed the effectiveness of the Rooivalk, it became the helicopter of choice - after all the Rooivalk is the best helicopter in Sub-Saharan Africa.. one of the best in the world

EVarn:
nonsense talk.check this out;
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-32118/
those arent even the latest.2013 and 2014s' delivery havent been publicized.