mzilakazi:



The fact that it is there does not mean that it is still operational. Obsolence of weapons is what consumes many militaries in Africa.

Like South-Africa, not Nigeria.

mzilakazi:



The fact that it is there does not mean that it is still operational. Obsolence of weapons is what consumes many militaries in Africa.

pfft....hogwash,you swore up and down on zuma's scrawny a_ss that the NA has no anti-tank missile.you demanded proof,and i gave you one,yet you are moving the goalpost now?,what evidence do you have that the NA isnt using anti-tank missiles to in their operations?,you werent{arent,and would not be} on the battle field.

Henry120:


Like South-Africa, not Nigeria.

Why is it that the very Nigeria does not have sophisticated weapons to fight BH? They are now crying foul to America blaming them for their failure to defeat the insurgents. Nigeria was at ease, deep in a relaxed mood all this while by failing to maintain their equipment. Do you know that missiles have to be maintained and surely it could be without any doubt that Nigeria has been failing to do this exercise regularly. Chief, I stand by my words having collected some vital intelligence that Nigeria has a serious crisis as far as anti-tank weapons is concerned. Any military in Africa will sweep Nigeria while they are still in this current situation.

mzilakazi:



The fact that it is there does not mean that it is still operational. Obsolence of weapons is what consumes many militaries in Africa.

what obsolete weapons are you wheezing about?,the problem with you is that you compare the nigerian military with all other african defence force,perhaps you cannot discern the difference.many african countries do not even have coherent militaries for Gods sake!,the NA doesnt have any obsolete weapons in the inventory,unlike the SANDF,who not only have obsolete weapon,but whose soldiers are also obselete.

EVarn:
pfft....hogwash,you swore up and down on zuma's scrawny a_ss that the NA has no anti-tank missile.you demanded proof,and i gave you one,yet you are moving the goalpost now?,what evidence do you have that the NA isnt using anti-tank missiles to in their operations?,you werent{arent,and would not be} on the battle ç001
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I never said they don't have. I know that Nigeria acquired swingfire way back in the early 80's, but my words was " are there still any operational missiles available? You might have heavy weapons in your arsenal but the question will depend on how many of them are still operational. However, I still stand by my words, Nigeria does not have any operational anti-tank missiles.

mzilakazi:

Why is it that the very Nigeria does not have sophisticated weapons to fight BH? They are now crying foul to America blaming them for their failure to defeat the insurgents. Nigeria was at ease, deep in a relaxed mood all this while by failing to maintain their equipment. Do you know that missiles have to be maintained and surely it could be without any doubt that Nigeria has been failing to do this exercise regularly. Chief, I stand by my words having collected some vital intelligence that Nigeria has a serious crisis as far as anti-tank weapons is concerned. Any military in Africa will sweep Nigeria while they are still in this current situation.

you speak as if you are some kinda KGB super secret agent who has access to a world intelligence archive.if it were that easy to "sweep" nigeria as you so eloquently put it,trust me,many nations would have done it.we have operational and well serviced anti-tank missiles,thank you.when have the SANDF ever fought terrorists?.

EVarn:
what obsolete weapons are you wheezing about?,the problem with you is that you compare the nigerian military with all other african defence force,perhaps you cannot discern the difference.many african countries do not even have coherent militaries for Gods sake!,the NA doesnt have any obsolete weapons in the inventory,unlike the SANDF,who not only have obsolete weapon,but whose soldiers are also obselete.

SANDF does have plenty of obsolete weapons, but in all possible cases it holds on to their regular exercise of maintaining their heavy arms.

BH defeat Nigerian army yet again and loot all their weapons in their base.



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/171062-exclusive-boko-haram-sacks-entire-nigerian-army-battalion-confiscates-all-arms-ammunition.html

mzilakazi:



I never said they don't have. I know that Nigeria acquired swingfire way back in the early 80's, but my words was " are there still any operational missiles available? You might have heavy weapons in your arsenal but the question will depend on how many of them are still operational. However, I still stand by my words, Nigeria does not have any operational anti-tank missiles.

*sigh* why are you so bull-headed?,so you expect the NA roll in tanks into mubi,or gwoza and start chucking out missiles?,and what do you expect the terrorist will do?,grab a sit,a bottle of coke and some popcorn?...if it were conventional warfare,there would be no qualms in unleashing terror that would make even hitler gagg....but as it is,these terrorists use the random innocent civilians as shield,if care isnt taken,the number of civilian casualty will be more than that of the terrorists!.

mzilakazi:



SANDF does have plenty of obsolete weapons, but in all possible cases it holds on to their regular exercise of maintaining their heavy arms.

*scoff*,good to know.you cant continue cleaning an old bottle,it may last,but when it breaks down,it gonna shatter into pieces.

mzilakazi:


Why is it that the very Nigeria does not have sophisticated weapons to fight BH? They are now crying foul to America blaming them for their failure to defeat the insurgents. Nigeria was at ease, deep in a relaxed mood all this while by failing to maintain their equipment. Do you know that missiles have to be maintained and surely it could be without any doubt that Nigeria has been failing to do this exercise regularly. Chief, I stand by my words having collected some vital intelligence that Nigeria has a serious crisis as far as anti-tank weapons is concerned. Any military in Africa will sweep Nigeria while they are still in this current situation.

Why?

Very simple. Nigeria's procurement funds (where available) never reach the seller. I agree with you, Nigeria has no operational anti-tank missiles, if at all, otherwise we would've seen them by now.

mzilakazi:
BH defeat Nigerian army yet again and loot all their weapons in their base.



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/171062-exclusive-boko-haram-sacks-entire-nigerian-army-battalion-confiscates-all-arms-ammunition.html

I won't even read the link "at this time". This has become a daily occurrence.

mzilakazi:



My friend let us cut this shot. Nigeria does not have operational anti-tank missile. They are desperate for mass firepower and could have used it if there was any, finito

"End of" right here.

Patchesagain:


Hey numbnutz

Smoke obscures the target

If the gunner cannot see the target he cannot guide the Swingfire onto the target

Conclusion: Smoke also defeats the Swingfire

Also, you have no laser-warning. So you will only know the Ingwe is there after the first batch of Nigerian tanks explode.

Nigeria has inferior tanks to the SANDF.

Smoke does not jam wires guidance, smoke jams laser and your Ingwe is the victim, our Swingfire is the victor.

Ratel has no radar to detect the Swingfire, they need to see Nigerian infantry, and SANDF is driving outside in a vehicle, Nigerian Swingfire is hiding in a house, behind wall, in the bush or behind a barrier/obstacle, so Nigeria sees South Africa, you will not see us.

Fact is that we are launching the Swingfire before you launch the Ingwe, that is the bid battlefield operational disadvantage SANDF will face driving armoured vehicles in the open streets or fields against Nigerian army Swingfire tank-killer missiles that are hand/tripod stand controlled and hidden from view.....Ratels die without knowing how we killed t.hem all. PITY PITY PITY PITY

PHOTO ONE : SANDF RATEL WITH INGWE MISSILE EXPOSED ON THE FIELD AND EASY TO KILL

PHOTO TWO : ANTI-TANK MISSILE LIKE NIGERIAN ARMY SWINGFIRE HIDDEN FROM VIEW TO KILL THE UNLUCKY RATEL AND INGWE


SANDF IS WIPED OUT. CASE CLOSED !!!
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agaugust:


Smoke does not jam wires guidance, smoke jams laser and your Ingwe is the victim, our Swingfire is the victor.

Ratel has no radar to detect the Swingfire, they need to see Nigerian infantry, and SANDF is driving outside in a vehicle, Nigerian Swingfire is hiding in a house, behind wall, in the bush or behind a barrier/obstacle, so Nigeria sees South Africa, you will not see us.

Fact is that we are launching the Swingfire before you launch the Ingwe, that is the bid battlefield operational disadvantage SANDF will face driving armoured vehicles in the open streets or fields against Nigerian army Swingfire tank-killer missiles that are hand/tripod stand controlled and hidden from view.....Ratels die without knowing how we killed t.hem all. PITY PITY PITY PITY

PHOTO ONE : SANDF RATEL WITH INGWE MISSILE EXPOSED ON THE FIELD AND EASY TO KILL

PHOTO TWO : ANTI-TANK MISSILE LIKE NIGERIAN ARMY SWINGFIRE HIDDEN FROM VIEW TO KILL THE UNLUCKY RATEL AND INGWE

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Smoke does not jam it merely absorbs laser. However, smoke is an unreliable countermeasures, SA gunners are well trained to handle smoke and to also shoot at most difficult targets.

Nigeria's swingfire is under no reasonable doubt supposed to have long passed obsolete stage. Nigeria is under a great threat and BH fights with Armoured vehicles as well as tanks which are far more expensive than swingfire, yet they have never utilised nor employed a single anti-tank missile to send a message of stop-nonsense to the insurgents. That is a clear prove that Nigeria has now become a shadow of what it used to be without anti-tank weapons.

mzilakazi:



I never said they don't have. I know that Nigeria acquired swingfire way back in the early 80's, but my words was " are there still any operational missiles available? You might have heavy weapons in your arsenal but the question will depend on how many of them are still operational. However, I still stand by my words, Nigeria does not have any operational anti-tank missiles.

Nigeria bought Swingfire about same time with Roland, we display the Roland till today, so the missiles are good. We do not display the Swingfire same way we don't display our army SA-7 missiles and Blowpipe missiles too. We are not Photomaniacs like you show boys who don't know real war except under Tanzanian leadership commanding SANDF like Masai cattle rearers control cows in the field.
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mzilakazi:


Nigeria's swingfire is under no reasonable doubt supposed to have long passed obsolete stage. Nigeria is under a great threat and BH fights with Armoured vehicles as well as tanks which are far more expensive than swingfire, yet they have never utilised nor employed a single anti-tank missile to send a message of stop-nonsense to the insurgents. That is a clear prove that Nigeria has now become a shadow of what it used to be without anti-tank weapons.

Only a foolish army like South Africa will use high value missiles against low value Boko Haram APCs when a single cheap hand held Nigerian army RPG will wreck Boko APCs, Nigeria has thousands of RPGs.

I thought you said you are a soldier, so you don't know RPG with HEAT shell as cheap as it is, will destroy T-55 tanks and APCs ?

No wonder SANDF was under Tanzanian army control in Congo DRC, you guys are more like glorified policemen.

Egypt and oil rich Saudi Arabia are still using the same Swingfire today, so obsolete in your dreams. Ratel itself is an obsolete vehicle, and Valour frigates Exocet block II became obsolete as block III replaced them in France. South African navy frigates have no missiles that can kill.

Simple.

agaugust:


Only a foolish army like South Africa will use high value missiles against low value Boko Haram APC when a single cheap Vickers tank shell will wreck Boko APCs.

Egypt and oil rich Saudi Arabia are still using the same Swingfire today, so obsolete in your dreams. Ratel itself is an obsolete vehicle, and Valour frigates Exocet block II became obsolete as block III replaced them in France. South African navy frigates have no missiles that can kill.

Simple.

Swingfire is not expensive at all, it is an outdated anti-tank weapon. BH is roving around with APCs and tanks which are way more expensive that swingfire. Do you mean you won't sacrifice even one swingfire just to send a strong message to insurgents not to take you for a ride. In the mean time, insurgents are using those tanks for their own advantage to defeat your army. Chief, I rest my case, Nigeria does not have operational anti-tank missiles. Ratels will consume all your army without any resistance.

mzilakazi:
Believe it or not, Nigeria does not have any operational anti-tank missile at this instance. BH has been roving around with armored APCs as well as tanks pursuing soldiers with impunity. It is against this backdrop that I have gathered this vital intelligence that Nigeria does not have any operational anti-tank missiles. No army in the world can sacrifice the lives of their soldiers from the enermy that uses armoured vehicles when it readily has anti-tank missiles to sweep all those tanks.

[size=16pt] Soweto fool, you don't need anti-tank missile to kill an APC, ordinary one man cheap RPG with HEAT warhead will destroy an APC....Soweto fool.

South African navy frigates old Exocet missiles cannot kill like Swingfire cannot kill, get it? Yes you get it.

Olodo
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mzilakazi:



Swingfire is not expensive at all, it is an outdated anti-tank weapon. BH is roving around with APCs and tanks which are way more expensive that swingfire. Do you mean you won't sacrifice even one swingfire just to send a strong message to insurgents not to take you for a ride. In the mean time, insurgents are using those tanks for their own advantage to defeat your army. Chief, I rest my case, Nigeria does not have operational anti-tank missiles. Ratels will consume all your army without any resistance.

Swingfire missile costs say $50,000 but RPG HEAT costs say $1,000.

Then you have 5,000 RPG HEAT and only 100 Swingfires.

If you have 100 missiles and you use them against weak APCs, what will you do when the enemy comes back with T-72 tanks ?

I think your economic foolishness is incurable, I guess an RPG with HEAT shell will correct your mental i.mbalance if fired into your s.kull

agaugust:

[size=16pt] Soweto fool, you don't need anti-tank missile to kill an APC, ordinary one man cheap RPG with HEAT warhead will destroy an APC....Soweto fool.
South African navy frigates old Exocet missiles cannot kill like Swingfire cannot kill, get it? Yes you get it.
Olodo
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If you had the anti-tank missiles, you would have used them. You aren't exactly winning, so it's not like you can afford to leave a useful weapon out of service.

agaugust:


If you have 100 missiles and you use them against weak APCs, what will you do when the enemy comes back with T-72 tanks ?

I think your economic foolishness is incurable, I guess an RPG with HEAT shell will correct your mental i.mbalance if fired into your s.kull

That is just a lousy excuse. The question is have you been training personnel and maintaining your missiles well? Every country differ on how they handle their arms and take care of their weapons. Since, we use the same car of the same model does not mean that they will all remain under the same conditions all the time. It might be that you will afford to take yours to service every time when is due and mine does not keep to date with its service. So, stop comparing yourselves with Egypt.

Use swingfire missle against apc are you high, when RPG will do the same job.

agaugust:


Swingfire missile costs say $50,000 but RPG HEAT costs say $1,000.

Then you have 5,000 RPG HEAT and only 100 Swingfires.

If you have 100 missiles and you use them against weak APCs, what will you do when the enemy comes back with T-72 tanks ?

I think your economic foolishness is incurable, I guess an RPG with HEAT shell will correct your mental i.mbalance if fired into your s.kull

Chief, it is time for swingfire which was acquired in the 80s to do what it was bought for. Then, it was bought at a cheaper price as compared to today's currency. It is now a high time that only one among hundreds to be used just to send the message to BH.

Armies across the world, including SA fire live missiles in their training exercises, shooting at targets which are not even close to the missile in price. So, how on earth do you tell me about the cost of the missile when your soldiers are dying. SAM and anti-ship missiles are those that you can budget on.


Chief, admit that you just don't have any operational anti-tank missile in your asernal.

sirjerry:
Use swingfire missle against apc are you high, when RPG will do the same job.

Against a tank. BH has tanks and that is well known fact. They have even captured more tanks.


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/171062-exclusive-boko-haram-sacks-entire-nigerian-army-battalion-confiscates-all-arms-ammunition.html

Henry120:


I hope you don't believe this lie, you're currently telling?

Yes it's the best in Sub-Sahara and one of the best in the world (Top Ten).

mzilakazi:



That is just a lousy excuse. The question is have you been training personnel and maintaining your missiles well? Every country differ on how they handle their arms and take care of their weapons. Since, we use the same car of the same model does not mean that they will all remain under the same conditions all the time. It might be that you will afford to take yours to service every time when is due and mine does not keep to date with its service. So, stop comparing yourselves with Egypt.

who told you they are not operational?you not seeing USA test their nukes means they dont exists.

mzilakazi:



Against a tank. BH has tanks and that is well known fact. They have even captured more tanks.


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/171062-exclusive-boko-haram-sacks-entire-nigerian-army-battalion-confiscates-all-arms-ammunition.html

And if they are being use how would you know. Are you a superbeing.

mzilakazi:
BH defeat Nigerian army yet again and loot all their weapons in their base.



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/171062-exclusive-boko-haram-sacks-entire-nigerian-army-battalion-confiscates-all-arms-ammunition.html

Take Premiumtimes and saharareporters seriously at your own peril.

Opposition funded newspapers in an election period.

LMFAO, buhahahahahahahahahahaha

Try this for size, i'm currently posting from the moon.

mzilakazi:



Chief, it is time for swingfire which was acquired in the 80s to do what it was bought for. Then, it was bought at a cheaper price as compared to today's currency. It is now a high time that only one among hundreds to be used just to send the message to BH.

Armies across the world, including SA fire live missiles in their training exercises, shooting at targets which are not even close to the missile in price. So, how on earth do you tell me about the cost of the missile when your soldiers are dying. SAM and anti-ship missiles are those that you can budget on.


Chief, admit that you just don't have any operational anti-tank missile in your asernal.

And how would you know whether they are operational or not.

sirjerry:
who told you they are not operational?you not seeing USA test their nukes means they dont exists.

What a foolish comment!! Nigeria is under threat of sinking. A dog that has been pushed to the corner will do everything humanly possible to break out of its situation by employing all that it has.