Thiza:

The terrorists arrived suddenly at 4:00 p.m. that ill-fated Wednesday, November 5, catching the Nigerian soldiers and their commanders off-guard. As they invaded the headquarters of the 174 Battalion, Abadan Local Government Area of Borno State, located close to the Nigerian border with Niger, the Boko Haram insurgents, in hundreds, began to shoot sporadically in all directions.

According to witnesses, the terrorists were led into the battalion headquarters by insurgents bearing a number of Rocket Propelled Grenades (a shoulder-launched anti-tank weapon) and machine guns mounted on Hilux vans. Other insurgents, bearing AK-47 rifles, followed behind, shooting and chanting "Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar" (May God be praised).

For minutes, the attackers were repelled by Nigerian soldiers who returned fire, and at some point, appeared to be gaining the upper hand, our sources said.

But the troops capitulated shortly after more insurgents advanced on the camp from several directions, hurling grenades at them and shooting non-stop, our sources said. The soldiers fled the scene as it became clear they were less armed and prepared for battle.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201411130220.html

Several Nigerian soldiers who took part in the fighting have narrated how Boko Haram secured yet again another victory over government forces, a defeat they blamed on their arms and the morale of the fighting force.

Boko Haram has seized many towns and communities in recent months, sacking security facilities while soldiers flee, in what appears the worst defeat yet for the Nigerian military since the insurgents launched a bloody campaign in 2009.

The 174 Battalion, which was moved from its Lagos base to the Nigerien border in Nigeria's bid to rev up the war against the extremist Boko Haram sect, had over 300 soldiers. Over a thousand insurgents attacked the troops, witnesses said.

Before long, military insiders said, the soldiers began to abandon the battle in droves, throwing away their uniforms and yielding their arms to the terrorists. The terrorists followed in pursuit as majority of the soldiers and officers fled across the border into neighbouring Niger where some of them were hospitalized.

A yet unknown number of soldiers were killed; some declared missing while several others were injured, our sources said.

After the Nigerian soldiers fled, military officials said, the Boko Haram insurgents ransacked the camp, looting the battalion armoury and offices.

"They went away with every weapon we had," one of the soldiers who partook in the battle told PREMIUM TIMES. "RPGs, armoured tanks, rifles, ammunition, I mean everything. As we are now, we have nothing. They have gone away with everything."

He added, "We were simply overpowered. They were far more in number and the weapons they carried were far more than what we had. They could have finished all of us if we hadn't fled."

The spokesperson of the Defence Headquarters, Chris Olukolade, did not answer or return calls seeking comment for this story.

But a top military commander, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak on the matter, confirmed the incident to PREMIUM TIMES.

"I can't confirm to you that it happened but we have managed to bring back the soldiers to Nigeria," the general said. "The matter is being investigated."

He blamed the incident on cowardice by soldiers of the battalion saying, "Initially, they were talking of weapons. But the weapons have started arriving. The problem now is the mentality of our soldiers. A lot of them are just cowards and should not have been recruited into the Army in the first place. The fact is if you don't have the mentality of a soldier, you can't fight a battle no matter the sophistication of your arm."

The November 5 attack on the battalion was the second on the formation by Boko Haram. On August 4, 2013, the insurgents attacked the battalion, killing 15 soldiers and wounding several others.

Before the November 5 attack, some soldiers of the battalion had told PREMIUM TIMES their morale was at an all-time low.

"A lot of us have been here for more than two years without being allowed to see our family," one soldier said "We were to be here for six months but we have now been abandoned here for two years. We are missing our families and our morale is zero. Some of us are even considering going on AWOL (away without official leave)."

Patchesagain:


Augustus.

You densemotherfucker

If the gunner cannot see the target he cannot land the swingfire on the target

Smoke prevents the gunner from seeing the target

Or do you think the swingfire is guided by magic?

Thiza:
SANDF

agaugust:


1967 is not modern times, it's almost half a century ago.

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS DONT START WITH ME WITH YOUR LIES...THIS FORUM IS LITTERED THOUSANDS OF LIES FROM YOUR RAG TAG ARMY....FORM TACTICAL RETREAT TO STRATEGIC POSITIONING OF THE SOLDIERS AND YET ONE FACT REMAIN RUNNING AWAY IS RUNNING AWAY....NOT ME SAYING BUT NIGERIANS....IF NOT SO WHY THE COURT MARSHALL CASES

agaugust:


Forget the smoke, we don't need to use it.

Fact is that we are launching the Swingfire before you launch the Ingwe, that is the bid battlefield operational disadvantage SANDF will face driving armoured vehicles in the open streets or fields against Nigerian army Swingfire tank-killer missiles that are hand/tripod stand controlled and hidden from view behind bushes, shrubs, or houses/windows.....Ratels die without knowing how we killed t.hem all. PITY PITY PITY

PHOTO ONE : SANDF RATEL WITH INGWE MISSILE EXPOSED ON THE FIELD AND EASY TO KILL

PHOTO TWO : ANTI-TANK MISSILE LIKE NIGERIAN ARMY SWINGFIRE HIDDEN FROM VIEW TO KILL THE UNLUCKY RATEL AND INGWE


SANDF IS WIPED OUT. GO KISS YOUR CANVAS SHOES IN THE MUD. PITY

.

Patchesagain:


Milan and Makopa

mzilakazi:



I am not running to Google, I simply want to substantiate my assertions with evidence. SANDF never chickened out of CAR like what Nigerian troops do in their own country. We were commanded by the SA government through resolution by the parliament to leave CAR immediately. That is the high command that not even the Chief of SANDF nor the president can defy.

Patchesagain:


This drivel is beyond belief

EVarn:
asinine chest-beating of an enraged gorilla.you didnt fight an organized militia,you fought kwashiokor striken adolescents who thought shooting a gun was funny,only to be saved by sausage eaters who think brandishing rifles is sexy.all details about how you were ambushed and slaughtered is history.you said that you fought the cuban war?,you must have been a cook on the seleka battlefield.

agaugust:


1967 is not modern times, it's almost half a century ago.

mzilakazi:


Wow!!! just look at how that troop is carrying his rifle. That's what we call a perfect art in musketry. That's how rifles should be handled, not like how that Nigerian troop from the picture posted by @Agaugust carried his AK.

agaugust:


Mokopa is NOT in service.

The Milan in your photo is NOT being fired.

Show me Milan missile being fired by SANDF now !
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mzilakazi:


Biafran war was no where near being modern warfare but a war filled with knobkerries and machetes. No missiles, No modern fighter jets, etc.

agaugust:


He was not firing, he was taking a picture at a moment of no enemy engagement. Are you a 3 year old boy that cannot think?

agaugust:


Biafran war had the jets of that time, MiG-17 jet fighters, L-29 Delfin jet fighters and Ilyushi-28 jet bombers.

That was one of the best air forces in Africa in 1967-1970.

It had the artillery, APC, tank busters, mortar, Bofors anti-aircraft guns of that time.

Biafra was africa's biggest war after WW II with about 500,000 men on both sides, 100,000 soldiers died
.

mzilakazi:


SANDF fire missiles every time in the battle school when doing exercises. It is not a new thing to us. We fire ingwe on useless targets which are by far cheaper than the missile. Nigeria fail to fire one single missile on BHs APC or tank while they are pushed over the edge. Is this not enough to conclude that your 1980s swingfire has now rundown to just a white elephant.

mzilakazi:



A Biafran war was nothing but a bloody civil war no where near being modern at all and instead majority of people lost their lives through butchery than being shot at.

agaugust:


Show us proof. I know SANDF has only 25 units of IRIS-T missiles for 26 Gripen jets and has NEVER fired one of them in 7 years, because they will finish, there is already a shortage, 26 jets share 25 missiles, each Gripen jet gets 0.96 missile each, less than one missile

.

Thiza:

The terrorists arrived suddenly at 4:00 p.m. that ill-fated Wednesday, November 5, catching the Nigerian soldiers and their commanders off-guard. As they invaded the headquarters of the 174 Battalion, Abadan Local Government Area of Borno State, located close to the Nigerian border with Niger, the Boko Haram insurgents, in hundreds, began to shoot sporadically in all directions.

According to witnesses, the terrorists were led into the battalion headquarters by insurgents bearing a number of Rocket Propelled Grenades (a shoulder-launched anti-tank weapon) and machine guns mounted on Hilux vans. Other insurgents, bearing AK-47 rifles, followed behind, shooting and chanting "Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar" (May God be praised).

For minutes, the attackers were repelled by Nigerian soldiers who returned fire, and at some point, appeared to be gaining the upper hand, our sources said.

But the troops capitulated shortly after more insurgents advanced on the camp from several directions, hurling grenades at them and shooting non-stop, our sources said. The soldiers fled the scene as it became clear they were less armed and prepared for battle.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201411130220.html

Several Nigerian soldiers who took part in the fighting have narrated how Boko Haram secured yet again another victory over government forces, a defeat they blamed on their arms and the morale of the fighting force.

Boko Haram has seized many towns and communities in recent months, sacking security facilities while soldiers flee, in what appears the worst defeat yet for the Nigerian military since the insurgents launched a bloody campaign in 2009.

The 174 Battalion, which was moved from its Lagos base to the Nigerien border in Nigeria's bid to rev up the war against the extremist Boko Haram sect, had over 300 soldiers. Over a thousand insurgents attacked the troops, witnesses said.

Before long, military insiders said, the soldiers began to abandon the battle in droves, throwing away their uniforms and yielding their arms to the terrorists. The terrorists followed in pursuit as majority of the soldiers and officers fled across the border into neighbouring Niger where some of them were hospitalized.

A yet unknown number of soldiers were killed; some declared missing while several others were injured, our sources said.

After the Nigerian soldiers fled, military officials said, the Boko Haram insurgents ransacked the camp, looting the battalion armoury and offices.

"They went away with every weapon we had," one of the soldiers who partook in the battle told PREMIUM TIMES. "RPGs, armoured tanks, rifles, ammunition, I mean everything. As we are now, we have nothing. They have gone away with everything."

He added, "We were simply overpowered. They were far more in number and the weapons they carried were far more than what we had. They could have finished all of us if we hadn't fled."

The spokesperson of the Defence Headquarters, Chris Olukolade, did not answer or return calls seeking comment for this story.

But a top military commander, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak on the matter, confirmed the incident to PREMIUM TIMES.

"I can't confirm to you that it happened but we have managed to bring back the soldiers to Nigeria," the general said. "The matter is being investigated."

He blamed the incident on cowardice by soldiers of the battalion saying, "Initially, they were talking of weapons. But the weapons have started arriving. The problem now is the mentality of our soldiers. A lot of them are just cowards and should not have been recruited into the Army in the first place. The fact is if you don't have the mentality of a soldier, you can't fight a battle no matter the sophistication of your arm."

The November 5 attack on the battalion was the second on the formation by Boko Haram. On August 4, 2013, the insurgents attacked the battalion, killing 15 soldiers and wounding several others.

Before the November 5 attack, some soldiers of the battalion had told PREMIUM TIMES their morale was at an all-time low.

"A lot of us have been here for more than two years without being allowed to see our family," one soldier said "We were to be here for six months but we have now been abandoned here for two years. We are missing our families and our morale is zero. Some of us are even considering going on AWOL (away without official leave)."

agaugust:


Show us proof. I know SANDF has only 25 units of IRIS-T missiles for 26 Gripen jets and has NEVER fired one of them in 7 years, because they will finish, there is already a shortage, 26 jets share 25 missiles, each Gripen jet gets 0.96 missile each, less than one missile

.

mzilakazi:



A Biafran war was nothing but a bloody civil war no where near being modern at all and instead majority of people lost their lives through butchery than being shot at.

agaugust:


Show us proof. I know SANDF has only 25 units of IRIS-T missiles for 26 Gripen jets and has NEVER fired one of them in 7 years, because they will finish, there is already a shortage, 26 jets share 25 missiles, each Gripen jet gets 0.96 missile each, less than one missile

.

patches689:


nigeria only has 3 operational F7s

I think 25 is enough to get rid of them

agaugust:


Forget the smoke, we don't need to use it.

Fact is that we are launching the Swingfire before you launch the Ingwe, that is the big battlefield operational disadvantage SANDF will face driving armoured vehicles in the open streets or fields against Nigerian army Swingfire tank-killer missiles that are hand/tripod stand controlled and hidden from view behind bushes, shrubs, or houses/windows.....Ratels die without knowing how we killed t.hem all. PITY PITY PITY

PHOTO ONE : SANDF RATEL WITH INGWE MISSILE EXPOSED ON THE FIELD AND EASY TO KILL

PHOTO TWO : ANTI-TANK MISSILE LIKE NIGERIAN ARMY SWINGFIRE HIDDEN FROM VIEW TO KILL THE UNLUCKY RATEL AND INGWE


SANDF IS WIPED OUT. GO KISS YOUR CANVAS SHOES IN THE MUD. PITY

.

agaugust:


Vietnam war and Korean wars are all civil wars. Angolan civil war was tougher than SANDF Vs Cuba where inexperienced kids fought 4,000 SANDF that was mixed with UNITA men of Angola who formed the bulk of SANDF side.
.

agaugust:


Forget the smoke, we don't need to use it.

Fact is that we are launching the Swingfire before you launch the Ingwe, that is the big battlefield operational disadvantage SANDF will face driving armoured vehicles in the open streets or fields against Nigerian army Swingfire tank-killer missiles that are hand/tripod stand controlled and hidden from view behind bushes, shrubs, or houses/windows.....Ratels die without knowing how we killed t.hem all. PITY PITY PITY

PHOTO ONE : SANDF RATEL WITH INGWE MISSILE EXPOSED ON THE FIELD AND EASY TO KILL

PHOTO TWO : ANTI-TANK MISSILE LIKE NIGERIAN ARMY SWINGFIRE HIDDEN FROM VIEW TO KILL THE UNLUCKY RATEL AND INGWE


SANDF IS WIPED OUT. GO KISS YOUR CANVAS SHOES IN THE MUD. PITY

.

agaugust:


Biafran war had the jets of that time, MiG-17 jet fighters, L-29 Delfin jet fighters and Ilyushi-28 jet bombers.

That was one of the best air forces in Africa in 1967-1970.

It had the artillery, APC, tank busters, mortar, Bofors anti-aircraft guns of that time.

Biafra was africa's biggest war after WW II with about 500,000 men on both sides, 100,000 soldiers died
.

agaugust:


Show us proof. I know SANDF has only 25 units of IRIS-T missiles for 26 Gripen jets and has NEVER fired one of them in 7 years, because they will finish, there is already a shortage, 26 jets share 25 missiles, each Gripen jet gets 0.96 missile each, less than one missile

.

agaugust:


Vietnam war and Korean wars are all civil wars. Angolan civil war was tougher than SANDF Vs Cuba where inexperienced kids fought 4,000 SANDF that was mixed with UNITA men of Angola who formed the bulk of SANDF side.
.