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Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by A7(m): 7:00pm On Oct 31, 2014
The governor of Yobe just like Gej was elected a deputy governor, after the demise of his boss, he was sworn in as a governor and later contested the 2011 elections and won.

January 27 2015 will mark his 6 years as Governor, unlike other Apc governors, Gov Ibrahim Geidam's body language shows his support for Gej's re-election, he is for so long backing the president's ambition so he can also seek re-election next year.

Following Gej's recent declaration of his interest to contest, the governor was also set to declare his interest tomorrow in Damaturu the state capital.

While this was happening the Apc lawmakers last week vowed to challenge the eligibility of Jonathan to contest the 2015 polls if he[jonathan] decide to declare his interest, they base their premise on the supreme court ruling on former Adamawa state governor Boni Haruna, who was in 2007 stopped by the court from seeking another term after taking oath of office twice.

Now, a question to the Apc stalwarts here, how do we define the actions of Yobe state governor?

1- Shall we say it is total ignorance? , that he is not aware his party stakeholders consider his ambition a clear violation of party's terms and nation's law and bitterly oppose what Gej and him were hankering for so long?

2- Or he was simply sassy and daring?

If he declares tomorrow[or any moment] will the Apc treat him the same way they promise to challenge Gej's ambition? Or they will recant from their earlier pledge and allow him to mantain his seat in fear of loosing a governor from its fold.?

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Obinoscopy(m): 7:28am On Nov 13, 2014
Hmmmm, this is a good topic for discussion. Barcanista, Naptu2 and modhream, I need your intellectual inputs on this.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by mkpakanaodogwu(m): 7:44am On Nov 13, 2014
Nairaland APC E mouse pls where una de?

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by mkpakanaodogwu(m): 7:44am On Nov 13, 2014
Wonderful where are they,i mean the hypocrites pls your attention is highly needed
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donphilopus: 8:30am On Nov 13, 2014
Shall we say it is total ignorance? , that he is not aware his party stakeholders consider his ambition a clear violation of party's terms and nation's law and bitterly oppose what Gej and him were hankering for so long?

If most of you are truthful to yourselves, you'd discover that the main people against Jonathan's re-election are PDP members, not APC. If at all APC is against GEJ, it'd be on the stance of truthfulness, that is, promising Nigerians that one term was enough for him. I've said it before and will say it again that GEJ should be allowed to contest so as for him to be humiliated at the polls.

His case is different from Boni Haruna because according to what I read or was told, he was the running mate to Atiku during the 1999 elections. Immediately Atiku was made the running mate to Obasanjo in 1999, Boni Haruna automatically became the PDP Guber. Flagbearer in Adamawa state, that is, election had not been conducted then or Atiku had not taken his oath of office as the Governor [I'm also sure he campaigned for himself, unlike GEJ and Geidam]. So he governed them for the mandatory 4yrs and later won his reelection bid in 2003.

As for Goodluck and Geidam, they took over from their Bosses after their death. Though, they've all taken oaths of office twice. So, I don't think he has either violated any party's term or breached any of their rules. He's free to seek a re-election!

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by kokoA(m): 8:38am On Nov 13, 2014
OP, stop being mischievous. APC as a party or it's members have never challenged GEJ's eligibility to contest in 2015. Be truthful to yourself. Your fellow PDP members have been the ones challenging GEJ in court right from day one.

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by UnknownT: 8:40am On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:


If most of you are truthful to yourselves, you'd discover that the main people against Jonathan's re-election are PDP members, not APC. If at all APC is against GEJ, it'd be on the stance of truthfulness, that is, promising Nigerians that one term was enough for him. I've said it before and will say it again that GEJ should be allowed to contest so as for him to be humiliated at the polls.

His case is different from Boni Haruna because according to what I read or was told, he w
as the running mate to Atiku during the 1999 elections. Immediately Atiku was made the running mate to Obasanjo in 1999, Boni Haruna automatically became the PDP Guber. Flagbearer in Adamawa state, that is, election had not been conducted then or Atiku had not taken his oath of office as the Governor [I'm also sure he campaigned for himself, unlike GEJ and Geidam]. So he governed them for the mandatory 4yrs and later won his reelection bid in 2003.

As for Goodluck and Geidam, they took over from their Bosses after their death. Though, they've all taken oaths of office twice. So, I don't think he has either violated any party's term or breached any of their rules. He's free to seek a re-election!
You didnt see where the OP wrote that APC lawmakers are the ones that want to contest GEJ's eligibility? Talking about him saying he wouldn't contest in 2015, what is stopping you from preaching the 'stance of truthfulness' to Buhari who also said that 2011 will be his last shot at d presidency? Yeye dey smell! You guys should stop carrying politicians matter on your heads, they are all d same people

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 8:43am On Nov 13, 2014
APC operates on double standards and their hypocrisy is reeking to the high heavens.

Take Amaechi for instance running a state without the judiciary because he must have a magistrate judge as his CJ despite the constituitional provisions which makes nominations solely on the NJC for his final approval

The fallout is that potential innocent suspects have been lefft remanded in prison custody languishing in judiciary limbo

Does amaechi care? Is the APC bothered about this? Hell No!

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Obinoscopy(m): 8:55am On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:


If most of you are truthful to yourselves, you'd discover that the main people against Jonathan's re-election are PDP members, not APC. If at all APC is against GEJ, it'd be on the stance of truthfulness, that is, promising Nigerians that one term was enough for him. I've said it before and will say it again that GEJ should be allowed to contest so as for him to be humiliated at the polls.
Yes some PDP members challenged GEJ's eligibility. Even non-partisan citizens challenged his eligibility. But if we are being truthful to ourselves, we should also admit that prominent APC members challenged GEJ's eligibility too. In the link provided below, the APC House of Rep members challenged Jonathan's eligibility.
http://www.informationng.com/2014/10/2015-apc-reps-set-to-challenge-jonathan-eligibility-in-court.html

His case is different from Boni Haruna because according to what I read or was told, he w
as the running mate to Atiku during the 1999 elections. Immediately Atiku was made the running mate to Obasanjo in 1999, Boni Haruna automatically became the PDP Guber. Flagbearer in Adamawa state, that is, election had not been conducted then or Atiku had not taken his oath of office as the Governor [I'm also sure he campaigned for himself, unlike GEJ and Geidam]. So he governed them for the mandatory 4yrs and later won his reelection bid in 2003.
You got it all wrong. Atiku won the gubernatorial election. He campaigned and won. He was given the certificate of return. But he wasn't sworn in because Obasanjo picked him as his running mate (then governorship election took place before the presidential election). Because Atiku wasn't sworn in, INEC didn't recognise Boni Haruna as the governor-elect and Boni Haruna had to get a supreme court judgement before he could be sworn in as governor. The Supreme Court ruled that Boni Haruna should be sworn in since he and Atiku won the election on a JOINT TICKET.

As for Goodluck and Geidam, they took over from their Bosses after their death. Though, they've all taken oaths of office twice. So, I don't think he has either violated any party's term or breached any of their rules. He's free to seek a re-election!
Boni Haruna was denied eligibility by the supreme court to contest for 2007 elections based on the fact that he was sworn in twice (he was sworn in 1999 with Atiku's mandate and on 2003 with his own mandate). Don't you think such should be done for Jonathan and Geidam, bearing in mind that they assumed the position of Presidency/Governor in their first tenure based on a JOINT TICKET?

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Obinoscopy(m): 9:02am On Nov 13, 2014
kokoA:
OP, stop being mischievous. APC as a party or it's members have never challenged GEJ's eligibility to contest in 2015. Be truthful to yourself. Your fellow PDP members have been the ones challenging GEJ in court right from day one.
The APC House of Reps members challenged GEJ's eligibility for presidential election. You are the one that should be truthful to yourself.
http://www.informationng.com/2014/10/2015-apc-reps-set-to-challenge-jonathan-eligibility-in-court.html

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donphilopus: 9:12am On Nov 13, 2014
Obinoscopy:
Yes some PDP members challenged GEJ's eligibility. Even non-partisan citizens challenged his eligibility. But if we are being truthful to ourselves, we should also admit that prominent APC members challenged GEJ's eligibility too. In the link provided below, the APC House of Rep members challenged Jonathan's eligibility.
http://www.informationng.com/2014/10/2015-apc-reps-set-to-challenge-jonathan-eligibility-in-court.html

APC as a party has never challenged Jonathan's eligibility to contest the 2015 Elections. When we say APC, we mean APC standing as a plaintiff in the court of law, not APC Reps!

You got it all wrong. Atiku won the gubernatorial election. He campaigned and won. He was given the certificate of return. But he wasn't sworn in because Obasanjo picked him as his running mate (then governorship election took place before the presidential election). Because Atiku wasn't sworn in, INEC didn't recognise Boni Haruna as the governor-elect and Boni Haruna had to get a supreme court judgement before he could be sworn in as governor. The Supreme Court ruled that Boni Haruna should be sworn in since he and Atiku won the election on a JOINT TICKET.

Bros, we're almost saying the same thing sir. I'm only trying to say that Yaradua had been sworn in as the President and Geidam Predecessor was also sworn in as the Governor before their death. Unlike Boni Haruna who took the oath of office as Governor. Atiku was never sworn in as the Governor then. Take a look at this.

Boni Haruna (Civilian)

Initially, Boni Haruna, a Christian was elected as deputy governor. He was to deputise for the Governor-elect, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar. However, Atiku was later nominated as the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) vice presidential candidate and along with Obasanjo won the race for Aso Rock. Consequently, Haruna was elevated and sworn-in as governor. He was to be re-elected in 2003 and his tenure elapsed in 2007.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/02/adamawas-past-men-of-power/

To be sincere, Nigeria' Constitution on Electoral Matters is somehow confusing and needs to be reviewed.

Boni Haruna was denied eligibility by the supreme court to contest for 2007 elections based on the fact that he was sworn in twice. Don't you think such should be done for Jonathan and Geidam?

No, such should not be done to either GEJ or Geidam because their Predecessors first took oath of office before their death, whereas, Atiku was neither sworn in nor took any oath of office. Atiku can never be considered as one of the former Govs of Adamawa State, but Yaradua and Geidam's Predecessor, Mamman Bello Ali, can be considered as a former President and a Former Governor respectively!
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donphilopus: 10:28am On Nov 13, 2014
@ Obinoscopy, you can as well move this to the FP to get other people's opinion!
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Obinoscopy(m): 10:36am On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:
APC as a party has never challenged Jonathan's eligibility to contest the 2015 Elections. When we say APC, we mean APC standing as a plaintiff in the court of law, not APC Reps!
At least you agree that APC members collectively challenged his eligibility. I'm sure the lawmakers from Yobe will be part of them. Now I wonder what would be the Yobe lawmaker stance on Giedam's eligibility.

No, such should not be done to either GEJ or Geidam because their Predecessors first took oath of office before their death, whereas, Atiku was neither sworn in nor took any oath of office. Atiku can never be considered as one of the former Govs of Adamawa State, but Yaradua and Geidam's Predecessor, Mamman Bello Ali, can be considered as a former President and a Former Governor respectively!
I agree with you on the above.

But the question is this: did Geidam and Jonathan got sworn in twice? If yes, then the Supreme Court over Boni Haruna's 2007 eligibility based on being sworn in twice is the crux of matter.

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donphilopus: 10:56am On Nov 13, 2014
Obinoscopy:
At least you agree that APC members collectively challenged his eligibility. I'm sure the lawmakers from Yobe will be part of them. Now I wonder what would be the Yobe lawmaker stance on Giedam's eligibility.

I agree with you on the above.

But the question is this: did Geidam and Jonathan got sworn in twice? If yes, then the Supreme Court over Boni Haruna's 2007 eligibility based on being sworn in twice is the crux of matter.

Bros, Nyako once took an Oath of Office in 2007 as the Executive Governor of Adamawa state, but the Election was later nullified by a court in February 2007 and ordered for a rerun. He still massively won the rerun and resumed office on the 29th of April 2008, that means he was sworn in again as the Governor [making it twice]. He later contested the 2012 Adamawa Governorship Election and still won [meaning that he was sworn in 3 times or he took Oath of Office 3 times]. What I'm trying to say is that: “If Nyako could take Oath of Office 3 times, then Geidam is also eligible to do that.” Boni Haruna's case is different from that of the others.

Like I earlier said, Nigerian Constitution on Electoral Matters needs to be reviewed because it's somehow confusing. Maybe other senior men can expatiate on that!
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 11:20am On Nov 13, 2014
Obinoscopy:
At least you agree that APC members collectively challenged his eligibility. I'm sure the lawmakers from Yobe will be part of them. Now I wonder what would be the Yobe lawmaker stance on Giedam's eligibility.

I agree with you on the above.

But the question is this: did Geidam and Jonathan got sworn in twice? If yes, then the Supreme Court over Boni Haruna's 2007 eligibility based on being sworn in twice is the crux of matter.
Is anyone stopping the challenge of Geidam's eligiblity to contest again? Anyone who feels Geidam should not contest should go to court and challenge his eligibilty.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by ichidodo: 11:22am On Nov 13, 2014
We re about to see the hypocrisy that is APC unravel itself..stay tuned...

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Descartes: 11:39am On Nov 13, 2014
Following.. wink
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Obinoscopy(m): 11:44am On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:


Bros, Nyako once took an Oath of Office in 2007 as the Executive Governor of Adamawa state, but the Election was later nullified by a court in February 2007 and ordered for a rerun. He still massively won the rerun and resumed office on the 29th of April 2008, that means he was sworn in again as the Governor [making it twice]. He later contested the 2012 Adamawa Governorship Election and still won [meaning that he was sworn in 3 times or he took Oath of Office 3 times]. What I'm trying to say is that: “If Nyako could take Oath of Office 3 times, then Geidam is also eligible to do that.” Boni Haruna's case is different from that of the others.
Don't bring in Nyako's case here. The first election that brought Nyako into power was nullified. This means it is not recognised under law. Nyako only took oath of office twice under law.

Like I earlier said, Nigerian Constitution on Electoral Matters needs to be reviewed because it's somehow confusing. Maybe other senior men can expatiate on that!
I agree with you on this. There are certain sections of the constitution that needs to be amended.

I also need you to check out this thread to see more intellectual discussion on Jonathan's eligibility alongside other burning electoral issues:
https://www.nairaland.com/1889229/adamawa-gubernatorial-election-im-confused

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 12:34pm On Nov 13, 2014
Let us look at constitutional Provision:

1. A Person is eligible for a Maximum of 8 years of 2 terms in Office as Governor/President from the first day of swearing-in.

2. However, no person shall spend more than 8 years in office but can spend less (2012 SC Ruling on 5 Govs)

3. The Governor succeeded his boss as a Substantive Governor in January 2009(If I am not mistaken)

4. It means he is a few months close to 6 years in office.

5. Contesting the 2015 election(and winning) will mean a whopping and unconstitutional 10 years in Office. Which is clearly against the provisions of the constitution.

6. There is nothing like "Helping" someone to complete his term. Truth is, the Vice/Deputy became the Principal by virtue of being a part of the ticket. They are both a tag-team in the running. The one is not distinct from another. Only their roles defers.

7. Both Jonathan and Gaidam are ineligible to run for 2015 by virtue of the 1999 Constitution and the Supreme Court Judgement on Haruna(1999), Nyako and Ors(2012) and Ladoja(2007)
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 1:12pm On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:


APC as a party has never challenged Jonathan's eligibility to contest the 2015 Elections. When we say APC, we mean APC standing as a plaintiff in the court of law, not APC Reps!



Bros, we're almost saying the same thing sir. I'm only trying to say that Yaradua had been sworn in as the President and Geidam Predecessor was also sworn in as the Governor before their death. Unlike Boni Haruna who took the oath of office as Governor. Atiku was never sworn in as the Governor then. Take a look at this.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/02/adamawas-past-men-of-power/

To be sincere, Nigeria' Constitution on Electoral Matters is somehow confusing and needs to be reviewed.



No, such should not be done to either GEJ or Geidam because their Predecessors first took oath of office before their death, whereas, Atiku was neither sworn in nor took any oath of office. Atiku can never be considered as one of the former Govs of Adamawa State, but Yaradua and Geidam's Predecessor, Mamman Bello Ali, can be considered as a former President and a Former Governor respectively!
Bros, This matter is very clear. I don't see any discrepancy.

1. Jonathan and Yar Adua were elected on Joint Platform in 2007, same as Atiku with Haruna in 1999

2. Atiku was elevated to VP, Haruna took over. Yar Adua died, Jonathan took over.

3. No person is eligible to hold an executive office for more than 8 Years from the day of swearing in. Your maximum is 4 per term and 8 per two terms, however, You can be in office less than the said duration- Supreme Court Ruling on Ladoja(2007), Boni Haruna (2007) and the G5 Govs (2012).

4. The Constitution Provide for contigency should the Principal die in Office. Which came into effect for Jonathan and Gaidam.

5. Both are not "Helping" their departed bosses, they were part of the Joint ticket.

6. By contesting in 2015, Jonathan and Gaidam are likely to hold office for 9 years and 10 years and 5 months respectively. Which amounts to illegal tenure elongation.

7. I see Court disqualifying both of them.

8. It is not about partisanship, or APC/PDP. It is about legality and the constitution.

8. The Law is greater than all
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donphilopus: 1:25pm On Nov 13, 2014
barcanista:
Bros, This matter is very clear. I don't see any discrepancy.

1. Jonathan and Yar Adua were elected on Joint Platform, same as Atiku with Haruna.

2. Atiku was elevated to VP, Haruna took over. Yar Adua died, Jonathan took over.

3. No person is elegible to hold an executive office for more than 8 Years from the day of swearing in. Your maximum is 4 per term and 8 per two terms, however, You can be in office less than the said duration- Supreme Court Ruling on Ladoja(2007), Boni Haruna (2007) and the G5 Govs (2012).

4. The Constitution Provide for contigency should the Principal die in Office. Which came into effect for Jonathan and Gaidam.

5. Both are not "Helping" their departed bosses, they were part of the Joint ticket.

6. By contesting in 2015, Jonathan and Gaidam are likely to hold office for 9 years and 10 years and 5 months respectively. Which amounts to illegal tenure elongation.

7. I see Court disqualifying both of them.

8. It is not about partisanship, or APC/PDP. It is about legality and the constitution.

8. The Law is greater than all

Bros, like I've earlier said, the Nigerian Constitution on Electoral Matters needs to be modified or reviewed because it seems to be somehow. Depending on the Judges that hear these cases in Nigeria, they base their judgement on their own discretion. In other words, they no longer follow the constitution because it's confusing. Anyways, the Court of Appeal would be hearing Jonathan's Eligibility case next month, let's watch how it goes.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 1:41pm On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:


Bros, like I've earlier said, the Nigerian Constitution on Electoral Matters needs to be modified or reviewed because it seems to be somehow. Depending on the Judges that hear these cases in Nigeria, they base their judgement on their own discretion. In other words, they no longer follow the constitution because it's confusing. Anyways, the Court of Appeal would be hearing Jonathan's Eligibility case next month, let's watch how it goes.
Bros, I get your point but I still insist that this is very clear. The Constitution provide for a maximum of 4 years per term and 8 years for anybody starting from the day that you took oath of that office. You can't go beyond that. Jonathan took his oath of office in May 2010 as substantive President. He took another in May 2011. He can't go beyond 2015 as doing so will mean he will be spending a whopping 9 years as a substantive President which is alien to the law and the constitution. The Learned Judges of the Supreme Court acted according to the law.

In fact, nobody can be deemed elected as Governor without having a runningmate. The runningmate is part of the requirement for one to be elected Governor

''a candidate for the office of Governor of a state shall not be deemed to have been validly nominated for such office unless he nominates another candidate as his associate for his running for the office of governor, who is to occupy the office of deputy governor if the candidate who nominated him is duly elected as governor...''
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donphilopus: 1:55pm On Nov 13, 2014
barcanista:
Bros, I get your point but I still insist that this is very clear. The Constitution provide for a maximum of 4 years per term and 8 years for anybody starting from the day that you took oath of that office. You can't go beyond that. Jonathan took his oath of office in May 2010 as substantive President. He took another in May 2011. He can't go beyond 2015 as doing so will mean he will be spending a whopping 9 years as a substantive President which is alien to the law and the constitution. The Learned Judges of the Supreme Court acted according to the law.

In fact, nobody can be deemed elected as Governor without having a runningmate. The runningmate is part of the requirement for one to be elected Governor


Bros, if you take a look at Nyako's case, you'd discover that Nyako took Oath of Office as the Governor of Adamawa 3 times. Ie, 2007, 2008 and 2012, whether legally or illegally. Thus, making him to have ruled Adamawa more than the stipulated time, if he had completed his 2nd term. I still maintain that most of the Judges now rule based on their discretion, not necessarily what's in the constitution.

GEJ and Geidam were neither elected as President and Governor respectively, nor did they campaign. Nigerian' Constitution still remains confusing though.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 2:00pm On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:


Bros, if you take a look at Nyako's case, you'd discover that Nyako took Oath of Office as the Governor of Adamawa 3 times. Ie, 2007, 2008 and 2012, whether legally or illegally. Thus, making him to have ruled Adamawa more than the stipulated time, if he had completed his 2nd term. I still maintain that most of the Judges now rule based on their discretion, not necessarily what's in the constitution.

GEJ and Geidam were neither elected as President and Governor respectively, nor did they campaign. Nigerian' Constitution still remains confusing though.
It is like you are not getting the point.

Boni Haruna went to court in 2007 to argue that he did not stand for Governorship in 1998, only 2003. The Court Dismissed it on the Ground that he can't hold Office beyond 8 years.

The Constitution is very clear, You can't spend more than a day in an executive Office beyond the maximum 8. The Minimum can be 1 second or 2 minutes. In fact ladoja only spent 3 years and 1 month in Office.

If the President and VP die today(God forbid), a bye-election will be held, the winner will complete the term and will be deemed to have held office for One Term. The constitution is very straightforward. A Charge and Bail can easily pursue this case in court.

Again: There is Nothing Like He first took oath, he took his last. You just can't stay beyond the maximum 8 years.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donphilopus: 2:49pm On Nov 13, 2014
barcanista:
It is like you are not getting the point.

Boni Haruna went to court in 2007 to argue that he did not stand for Governorship in 1998, only 2003. The Court Dismissed it on the Ground that he can't hold Office beyond 8 years.

One thing you need to know is that Atiku was never sworn in as the Governor of Adamawa State. Boni Haruna was the one sworn in. If they're listing the Ex-Governors of Adamawa State, Atiku's name can never be included. However, that of late Yaradua and Mamman Bello Alli would be listed among the former President and Governor of Nigeria and Adamawa State respectively.

The Constitution is very clear, You can't spend more than a day in an executive Office beyond the maximum 8. The Minimum can be 1 second or 2 minutes. In fact ladoja only spent 3 years and 1 month in Office.


Nyako would have spent more than 8yrs in Office [whether legally or illegally] if he wasn't impeached. That's why I'm of the opinion that most of the Judges
rule some cases based on their discretion, they necessarily not follow the Constitution.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by A7(m): 3:02pm On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:


If most of you are truthful to yourselves, you'd discover that the main people against Jonathan's re-election are PDP members, not APC. If at all APC is against GEJ, it'd be on the stance of truthfulness, that is, promising Nigerians that one term was enough for him. I've said it before and will say it again that GEJ should be allowed to contest so as for him to be humiliated at the polls.

@Bold, the plaintiffs have not yet make a say about that, and will never do because it will be inexplicably erratic, yes for the pdp to raise the issue I agree, but the moment anyone in the apc take his argument in that dimension the party will end up being an object of ridicule, it's like throwing the baby along with the bath water, just reminding us the most viable Apc candidate made similar statement in 2011.

His case is different from Boni Haruna because according to what I read or was told, he w
as the running mate to Atiku during the 1999 elections. Immediately Atiku was made the running mate to Obasanjo in 1999, Boni Haruna automatically became the PDP Guber. Flagbearer in Adamawa state, that is, election had not been conducted then or Atiku had not taken his oath of office as the Governor [I'm also sure he campaigned for himself, unlike GEJ and Geidam]. So he governed them for the mandatory 4yrs and later won his reelection bid in 2003.

Although I was young, what I heard and grow up to know was Atiku contested the election and won. But what I want us to keep in mind is, the focus of this discussion was about the actions of those lawmakers challenging the eligibility of govt officials that take oath of office twice and planning to seek another term, which according to them violates the nation's law.

The court that stop Boni Haruna does so because his third bid is not in compliance with the law.

As for Goodluck and Geidam, they took over from their Bosses after their death. Though, they've all taken oaths of office twice. So, I don't think he has either violated any party's term or breached any of their rules. He's free to seek a re-election!

Voila! There lies the problem, Boni, Gej, and Geidam were both sworn in twice, Boni's fate was already decided, a legal hurdle awaits Gej, little or nothing was known about Geidam's case. Will the Apc drop its case against gej to make way for Geidam or they will proceed to set an example showing unlike the Pdp the party do not abet/tolerate sacred cows. ??

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 3:21pm On Nov 13, 2014
donphilopus:

One thing you need to know is that Atiku was never sworn in as the Governor of Adamawa State. Boni Haruna was the one sworn in. If they're listing the Ex-Governors of Adamawa State, Atiku's name can never be included. However, that of late Yaradua and Mamman Bello Alli would be listed among the former President and Governor of Nigeria and Adamawa State respectively.
The Constitution sees both the Governor and the Dep as a Teag Team. They are not distinct from each other. The purpose of Vice is to ensure that such vancancy doesn't exist or is minimised. It is not to "dash" anyone free office. Yaradua contested and won the 2007 along with Jonathan. he didn't win it alone. This was the Court Ruling in 1999 to INEC where it said Haruna won the ticket with Atiku.



[s]Nyako would have spent more than 8yrs in Office[/s] [whether legally or illegally] if he wasn't impeached. That's why I'm of the opinion that most of the Judges
rule some cases based on their discretion, they necessarily not follow the Constitution.
No Sir, Nyako was first sworn in May 29, 2007. The Tenure will end May 29, 2015(Ngilari will end it, and it counts for him i.e Ngillari) which is according to the SC 2012 ruling. Nyako was not the only one affected, Idris(Kogi), Wamako(Sokoto), Sylva(Bayelsa) and Imoke(cross river) were all affected. They will vacate office May 29, 2015.

In fact, Oduaguan election was nullified in 2010, a re-run held in 2011 which he won. His First tenure still ended 2011.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donmalcolm21(m): 4:57pm On Nov 13, 2014
Please I need a qualified legal person to explain this issue to me not this barcanista that did business law as a borrowed course in school.

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 5:01pm On Nov 13, 2014
donmalcolm21:
Please I need a qualified legal person to explain this issue to me not this barcanista that did business law as a borrowed course in school.
You don't need a Lawyer, you need to hear from the Judge. I suppose you are a Jonathanian and it is unfortunate that my own argument sound unfavourable to you. Anyway, I am not the judge, I am a political analyst that speaks from judgement of the past and the constitution. Simple!!

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donmalcolm21(m): 5:11pm On Nov 13, 2014
barcanista:
You don't need a Lawyer, you need to hear from the Judge. I suppose you are a Jonathanians and it is unfortunate that my own argument sound unfavourable to you. Anyway, I am not the judge, I am a political analyst that speaks from judgement of the past and the constitution. Simple!!
. A political analyst analyse to suit his paymaster while a legal expert explain how the LAW interprets it. I DON'T NEED A POLITICAL ANALYST

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Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by Nobody: 5:16pm On Nov 13, 2014
donmalcolm21:
. A political analyst analyse to suit his paymaster while a legal expert explain how the LAW interprets it. I DON'T NEED A POLITICAL ANALYST
Like I said, it is unfortunate that this won't favor H.E President Jonathan. However, the Judge will seal the deal.
Re: Yobe Politics: Can Apc Recant? by donmalcolm21(m): 5:26pm On Nov 13, 2014
barcanista:
Like I said, it is unfortunate that this won't favor H.E President Jonathan. However, the Judge will seal the deal.
are you scared that I will demystify you objectively? Since you are not an expert on constitutional law, swallow your pride and give up because you have earned your pay today. Troll

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