agaugust:


Fake story, read the bolded part....Nigerian army 174 battalion has about 300 soldiers....LOL

No full battalion in Nigeria is less than 600 soldiers

Anyway, premium times is known for cooking up stories that no other news media is confirming
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Thiza:

[b]The terrorists arrived suddenly at 4:00 p.m. that ill-fated Wednesday, November 5, catching the Nigerian soldiers and their commanders off-guard. As they invaded the headquarters of the 174 Battalion, Abadan Local Government Area of Borno State, located close to the Nigerian border with Niger, the Boko Haram insurgents, in hundreds, began to shoot sporadically in all directions.
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According to witnesses, t[b]he terrorists were led into the battalion headquarters by insurgents bearing a number of Rocket Propelled Grenades (a shoulder-launched anti-tank weapon) and machine guns mounted on Hilux vans[/b]. Other insurgents, bearing AK-47 rifles, followed behind, shooting and chanting "Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar" (May God be praised).

For minutes, the attackers were repelled by Nigerian soldiers who returned fire, and at some point, appeared to be gaining the upper hand, our sources said.

But the troops capitulated shortly after more insurgents advanced on the camp from several directions, hurling grenades at them and shooting non-stop, our sources said. The soldiers fled the scene as it became clear they were less armed and prepared for battle.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201411130220.html

Several Nigerian soldiers who took part in the fighting have narrated how Boko Haram secured yet again another victory over government forces, a defeat they blamed on their arms and the morale of the fighting force.

Boko Haram has seized many towns and communities in recent months, sacking security facilities while soldiers flee, in what appears the worst defeat yet for the Nigerian military since the insurgents launched a bloody campaign in 2009.

The 174 Battalion, which was moved from its Lagos base to the Nigerien border in Nigeria's bid to rev up the war against the extremist Boko Haram sect, had over 300 soldiers. Over a thousand insurgents attacked the troops, witnesses said.

Before long, military insiders said, the soldiers began to abandon the battle in droves, throwing away their uniforms and yielding their arms to the terrorists. The terrorists followed in pursuit as majority of the soldiers and officers fled across the border into neighbouring Niger where some of them were hospitalized.

A yet unknown number of soldiers were killed; some declared missing while several others were injured, our sources said.

After the Nigerian soldiers fled, military officials said, the Boko Haram insurgents ransacked the camp, looting the battalion armoury and offices.

"They went away with every weapon we had," one of the soldiers who partook in the battle told PREMIUM TIMES. "RPGs, armoured tanks, rifles, ammunition, I mean everything. As we are now, we have nothing. They have gone away with everything."

He added, "We were simply overpowered. They were far more in number and the weapons they carried were far more than what we had. They could have finished all of us if we hadn't fled."

The spokesperson of the Defence Headquarters, Chris Olukolade, did not answer or return calls seeking comment for this story.

But a top military commander, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak on the matter, confirmed the incident to PREMIUM TIMES.

"I can't confirm to you that it happened but we have managed to bring back the soldiers to Nigeria," the general said. "The matter is being investigated."

He blamed the incident on cowardice by soldiers of the battalion saying, "Initially, they were talking of weapons. But the weapons have started arriving. The problem now is the mentality of our soldiers. A lot of them are just cowards and should not have been recruited into the Army in the first place. The fact is if you don't have the mentality of a soldier, you can't fight a battle no matter the sophistication of your arm."

The November 5 attack on the battalion was the second on the formation by Boko Haram. On August 4, 2013, the insurgents attacked the battalion, killing 15 soldiers and wounding several others.

Before the November 5 attack, some soldiers of the battalion had told PREMIUM TIMES their morale was at an all-time low.

"A lot of us have been here for more than two years without being allowed to see our family," one soldier said "We were to be here for six months but we have now been abandoned here for two years. We are missing our families and our morale is zero. Some of us are even considering going on AWOL (away without official leave)."

BH was and still is a Western control mechanism

kikuyu1:

Saffers,the bolded if true is confirmation of what I said earlier:
Where the actual eff do ragged desert dwellers get such intel and materiel? A thousand fighters with RPGs and Hilux mounted GPMGs deep in Nigeria? BH is a proxy army not a guerrilla force! There was talk of the country splitting up in 2015,doubtless it was an AngloZionist predictive programming measure.
I reiterate,the day Saffers reject their mandated roles in the NWO they'll suffer similar 'homegrown' terror,maybe worse if the internal societal dysfunctions as defined by the media are real.

kikuyu1:

Saffers,the bolded if true is confirmation of what I said earlier:
Where the actual eff do ragged desert dwellers get such intel and materiel? A thousand fighters with RPGs and Hilux mounted GPMGs deep in Nigeria? BH is a proxy army not a guerrilla force! There was talk of the country splitting up in 2015,doubtless it was an AngloZionist predictive programming measure.
I reiterate,the day Saffers reject their mandated roles in the NWO they'll suffer similar 'homegrown' terror,maybe worse if the internal societal dysfunctions as defined by the media are real.

ActivateKruger:

Nah, unless there was a collapse in the intelligence structures and our military became obsolete THEN only then we will have a Nigerian scenario.
And so you know, South Africans are not interested in cave and bush dwelling like Jihadists so this kind of terrorism is a hard to sell to even right wingers.
If we're not happy about a certain agenda we take to the court, protests or to the ballot box. EVEN if your Illuminati can sponsor people with thousands of Toyotas and rifles, they wouldn't even cross the border without the intelligence picking it up.
We don't tolerate terrorism in South Africa

agaugust:


Fake story, read the bolded part....Nigerian army 174 battalion has about 300 soldiers....LOL

No full battalion in Nigeria is less than 600 soldiers

Anyway, premium times is known for cooking up stories that no other news media is confirming
.

DieVluit:


I'm so interested in the idea that because BH have guns, then it means they are a "western creation". But I guess I'm wishing for far too much if I hoped for elaboration.

DieVluit:


Ok, let's work with your theory, then. Who controls BH? "Western" is broad.

According to an Israeli official, for a time Israel's intelligence agency, Mossad, allegedly provided support to Hamas, presumably to weaken or distract the PLO.[19]

What shocked the Sinhalese ruling establishment and the journalists (including the editor of Lanka Guardian, Mervyn de Silva) was the revelation of Ostrovski that Mossad had trained the Sinhalese military personnel and "a group of Tamil guerrilla factions" simultaneously.

Nah, unless there was a collapse in the intelligence structures and our military became obsolete THEN only then we will have a Nigerian scenario.

And so you know, South Africans are not interested in cave and bush dwelling like Jihadists so this kind of terrorism is a hard to sell to even right wingers.

If we're not happy about a certain agenda we take to the court, protests or to the ballot box. EVEN if your Illuminati can sponsor people with thousands of Toyotas and rifles, they wouldn't even cross the border without the intelligence picking it up.


We don't tolerate terrorism in South Africa

Henry120:
Chinese J-31

This is a powerful fighter. I wonder how it stacks against the F-35 or the Rafale.


#excuse the derailment.

Henry120:
The Y-20 is also a beautiful transport plane. Contrary to reports, it looks nothing like the C-17.

Henry120:
Chinese J-31

This is a powerful fighter. I wonder how it stacks against the F-35 or the Rafale.


#excuse the derailment.

fydence:
just across this, maybe it could help your comparison.
http://groundreport.com/chinese-5th-generation-j-31-stealth-aircraft-rivals-us-most-advanced-f-35-raptor/

Patchesagain:


It is a clone that uses peices of the C-17 and the IL-76, and it performs worse than the C-17... again because it uses outdated Russian engines
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/chinas-c-17-clone-faces-its-peers-at-the-zhuhai-air-sho-1656165805

Patchesagain:


Its a sh1tty copy of the F-35

Bleeds to much airspeed, even in normal flight and needs to use after-burners to do even the most basic maneuvers.

Russians say that the engine they used for it is old and poorly refined.

The secret to the F-35 is not stealth. It is its performance, its AN/APG-81 AESA-radar and AN/ASQ-239 IR sensors while its EO DAS and EOTS is probably the most advanced targeting system man has ever conceived


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r-dlzbLAdg

The Chinese copy + paste has none of these things

fydence:
just across this, maybe it could help your comparison.
http://groundreport.com/chinese-5th-generation-j-31-stealth-aircraft-rivals-us-most-advanced-f-35-raptor/

Henry120:


Okay....... more accusations.

If you missed what I typed, I was wondering how it performs against fighters in it's class. A fair assessment, not some jack sh1t mumbo jumbo.

Patchesagain:


It performs poorly

Physically, it has poor performance

Electronically, its not even in the same class.

Its only saving grace will be if it has the same stealth properties as the F-35... but stealth is irrelevant anyway, because of advances in low-frequency radar arrays.

Henry120:


How can a plane perform poorly when it's specs aren't even known?


How you came by this conclusion makes absolutely no sense.

kikuyu1:


My,my,my!! There are people who haven't heard of false flags! Dude,come the eff on! That's the way the world works-all modern guerrillas/rebels/terrorists from Hamas to the Tamils to the SPLA are armed,sponsored and trained by Zionists.

THIS IS FROM WIKI!!
Here's an ex Mossad agent on links with the Tamils:
http://tamilnation.co/books/Eelam/deception.htm
2 SPLA officers told me during the war Israeli war planners helped their operations.
A few years back a US think tank predicted the break up of Naij by next year. Its not just oil but also a punishment for stepping into the wider W African sphere during the Ecomog era-the US doesn't like competition;global full spectrum is their forte. I reiterate,the day you annoy de Beers and insist on alternative marketing arrangements for your diamonds is the day you'll suffer false flag terror even though unlike most countries many if not most of your civilians are armed.


SIGHHHHHHH,AK let me remind you of the mid 90s. Remember that Boer called Terreblanche? He loved to dress up and pose like all homos,(fyi,extreme racist organisations have more than their fair share of c ocksmokers). Who was paying for the entire AWB thing? The organisation,their premises,vehicles,training for the Ystergard etc etc-do you really think it was the 50 rand monthly subscription of hardline Boers?
Of course they had their people in your security/military/intel structures. If Terreblanche's handlers had so ordered SA would've drowned in blood. The insults you're all directing at Naij would be flowing the other way.

Patchesagain:


read the article i posted

Henry120:
Chinese J-31

This is a powerful fighter. I wonder how it stacks against the F-35 or the Rafale.


#excuse the derailment.

Henry120:


Which clearly states, the plane still is under-development. Besides those are the journalist personal views, not based on any concrete assessment of the fighter.

Patchesagain:


It performs poorly

Physically, it has poor performance

Electronically, its not even in the same class.

Its only saving grace will be if it has the same stealth properties as the F-35... but stealth is irrelevant anyway, because of advances in low-frequency radar arrays.

Henry120:


The chinese are ahead in anti-stealth tech, besides stealth is over-rated.

Until the specs of the J-31 are made public, baseless assumptions would continue to be made.

Electronically......... lol, like anyone has seen chinese fighter electronics.

Patchesagain:


They observed that it needed its afterburners to perform the most basic maneuvers

That is a legit observation.

And with regards to electronics. The Chinese are decades behind the americans as is, and the F-35 is another quantum leap that combines the technology and skills of around 12 of the worlds most advanced nations. Nothing the Chinese have will compare in any way.