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Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 7:02pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
StarBoard: Lol, Jo didn't take time to properly learn the art 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:02pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
StarBoard:3 million likes my G 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:03pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
rationalmind:graduated without certificate n dam license. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 7:04pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
rationalmind:He is still a learner. Let jerry curl master school him properly in the art of deception. if na to defend tithe collection na dat one him go sabi. 9 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SalC: 7:06pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
flourishG:I happen to be an igbo person, and you know the popular belief that the igbo man doesn't play pranks with money issues right? ![]() ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:07pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SalC:If he can't give da dam 500000 that's another dent on his integrity. 5 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:08pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
i'm back... Candour, i saw your post...why exactly should i apologize to sirjohn? |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:08pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
StarBoard: ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 7:09pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Na wah oh. 20 mins don turn to 40. This is turning into robust defence #2. #1 is still pending after nearly 18 months. 4 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:09pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs:If u ain't dumb as I suppose u read d reasons stated. 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 7:09pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SalC: I know how hard I work to make money. It got to a point I even find it difficult to spend the money on myself cos I'm always conscious of the stress I went through before making it and the stress it'll take me to make another. Here I am, reading about someone who's willing to stake half a million on claims he never verified. Only one thing comes to mind. He never struggled to make that money. Considering the nature of his work, where else will he get such money? Tithes, donations and the likes ![]() 18 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by nora544: 7:10pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
I still remember the fake healing of his boss in south africa. All this healing what you see in the internet from this pentecoust/charismatic pastors are fraud. 4 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by nora544: 7:12pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
rationalmind: Thank you for this because moste pastors didnot know how hard it is. 1000000000 likes 6 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Joagbaje(m): 7:12pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
MY FULL RESPONSE i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video. Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. My shock came when Jeff's pastor watched the video and said it's not Jeff and he gave the video to Jeff and said Jeff said he's not sure it's him. I gave the development feedback to Sirjohn that they said it's not him. And Sirjohn told me that Jeff had admitted to him before also that he watched the video and that he was the one. Sirjohn even posted the audio of the conversation. And he warned that he doesn't trust Jeff . On why I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him. So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment . Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now. 8 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Joagbaje(m): 7:13pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs, I'm sending the screen shot of Jeff affirmation of the video on whatsapp to you now. Kindly post it for all to see |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SalC: 7:14pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
flourishG:I don't want to believe he will try not to pay, am almost sure he must have set aside that money before now, all he has to do now is give SirJohn the said doh ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:14pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
common sense theory 1. if Joagbaje had wanted to fool anyone, he surely would have forged a document. 2. if he was fraud, he would not have given Jeff's details and forgot to tell Jeff the scripts to play. 3. The only clear thing here is folks blowing stuffs out of proportions. i would advice Jo to put up an explanation ie his side of the story, then unfollow the thread... let them call a dog a bad name and hang i for it. 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:16pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: ok.. i await them. You know you don't have to convice anyone here, shey? |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:17pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: Thanks alooooooot jare.. now please just watch them from afar, with a grin. ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:17pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje:those who have not lost their senses will analysis da response line by line. Watch people out n see 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Ukutsgp(m): 7:19pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
this story is so sweet o. eyes, ears, everything opened to receive this information. ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:19pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs:Really? Never knew u r a waste to your generation until u made da statement above. Really? He don't hv to convince anyone? Dammm 5 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 7:21pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
nep2ra: This is unbelievable!!! You guys move from one rant to another and all that is needed are simply an accusation and the evidence to support it. If you say he is fraudulent, guy prove it na. |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by nora544: 7:22pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
https://www.nairaland.com/1881318/joagbaje-right-ebola-jesus-cure read this because the orginal post was deleted when joagbaye want to show us that he could heal Ebola 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by flourishG(m): 7:23pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs:tell da cock n bullshit story to unreasonable kids.not everyone on planet earth can be fooled dude. God is behind exposing every falsehood as u can see 6 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 7:28pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje you are a liar. Now it has turned out to be 2 years since after the miracle. Right from the moment you posted that clip, you, yourself can bear witness that I spotted the incoherence in that video clip. I told you that the guy on the flash back was not the same. I also noticed how the guy (Mr Jeff) was quoting some many hospitals and I watched the expression on your face (that's not part of the script). Can you remember what you said you scumbag, can you? You told us may God curse you if it was false and that our pride is eating us up, you dirty fool. Remember how you shove us off? Joagbaje, you have never healed anybody your entire life. All you do is stage a show. Now you want to deny your actor. How about the other guy on the video clip - what he healed too? Do you want me to investigate that too? You are lucky your church is in Bayelsa, if it was in Lagos - I will walk up to your sunday service and tell your congregation what a liar and a fraud you are. I shall not come alone. Joagbaje, healing/miracle is not about laying hands and pushing people. You know nothing about it. You are a fraud and a liar and I shall give you no rest on nairaland till you leave this place. 6 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 7:30pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: As far as I am concerned your post is irrelevant. It is impossible for any right thinking individual to read through sirjohn's exposé and conclude based on that evidence that you were fraudulent. At best the only thing you were guilty of (if I can tag it guilt) was the fact that you believed this so called Jeff. 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 7:32pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
striktlymi: Jeff did not act on his own accord. He is an accomplice to Joagbaje. I know their tricks and they are so many of them in this country deceiving and confusing gullible people. Can people go back to that clip and watch it again. Forget about Jeff, watch the 2nd guy and please put on a logical mindset. 6 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 7:36pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: I have no problem with the above accusation. All I ask is for you to back it up with evidence. Anyone can accuse any other of wrongdoing but not everyone can prove it. If you have evidence, kindly share it. |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Ukutsgp(m): 7:36pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
this is a lesson the world can learn from. fake pastor everywhere. oga seun frontpage abeg. abi e never reach? 9 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 7:37pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
nora544: I remember him saying that. Joagbaje can you heal Ebola ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 7:44pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje you owe N500,000 to SirJohn. Kindly remit the money to him please. You can go on deceiving people, but I am so sure in afterlife your situation will be terrible. I no curse you - it is law of Karma (you sow what you reap), you cannot escape it. We determine our own fate. 4 Likes |
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