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Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Ukutsgp(m): 7:45pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
u see what all his boasting has landed him? this will be a lesson to some others in this forum. meanwhile let me continue reading. i'm really enjoying this. let me switch off everything to concentrate very well. no watching of cable this night. tv and all other electronic appliances switch off. let me get to business. i'm pitching my tent on this thread this night. ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:50pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
striktlymi: Bro, leave these folks |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Topgainer: 7:52pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje:Hmmm That response raises a lot of questions.Lab people in the house will soon analyse it if all this Jeff go here go there, Bayelsa, Owerri, Delta, are all consistent with the procedure for a simple HIV test results Meanwhile, I can spot a lot of inconsistencies in that response above maybe it was just the way Pastor Agbaje itemized his points. It still didn't extricate the fact of some calculated attempt to misrepresent issues surrounding an unverified miracle Assuming, Sir John didn't go out to investigate this, it will still stand online as one of miracles in the archives of the Loveworld And assuming, Mr Jeff was dead by not necessary HIV related illness that is if at all he was ever HIV positive, it will still be archived as a healing simply because the subject is gone and investigations will be impossible We have to be careful in fetching this type of Glory for God Then Gombs you are a pathetic Fanatic. Doesn't your conscience prick you for once. 7 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 7:54pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Would put up Jo's whatsapp chat screen grab soon.... as i am using my laptop and not the tab. After that, i would smile, take a deep breath.... and unfollow the thread. Peace |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SalC: 7:58pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs:Na this kain thing dey make me vex for you ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:03pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SalC: Deal with it. Which kind thing? My un following threads i dont see any god reason being in? Na by force to dey thread again? Jo has put up his account, it's all side by side, there is nothing suggesting Jo was a fraud, if you think otherwise, ask SirJohn if he thinks joe had any fraudulent intentions anywhere. Thanks |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Fourcade(m): 8:06pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
King of all Excuses! There's no need for a fresh test pastor! Pay SirJohn the N500k,you lost the challenge.If you wan dash Jeff another 100k,you are free to do so. 4 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SalC: 8:06pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje:You have started again @bold 7 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Topgainer: 8:09pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: I don't think the money should be as important to Sir John as the exposition going on here. How can Nollywood stars and Pastors be competiting for who gives the better stage act. It is more disheartening to know that some big Pastors who have carved a niche for themselves, a brand so to say are part of this fetching glory for God dubiously, at a larger scale Many years ago an uncle told me times without number that many of these Pastors who were consistently involved in some form of dishonest practices in Christianity will be exposed. He specifically mentioned Oyakhilome and TB Joshua. Then an undergraduate, I was a fan of the former and used to think my uncle was forming over sabi because he could look at those miracles and say can't we have a better thing to watch on this Television 4 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:10pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SalC: ![]() Fraudsters don't give up. You see how mentally ill Joagbaje is. He is so sure that the person he prayed for was healed and he isn't sure of the person. Joagbaje so who is this supposed person? Abeg Joagbaje you need doctor - I swear 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SalC: 8:11pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs:You know what am talking about 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by PastorKun(m): 8:12pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: Take it easy on the expletives, you are being too abusive and it doesn't augur well for a meaningful discussion. I consider myself as one of Joagbaje's leading antagonists on this forum, yet in this case based on the evidences so far, I am willing to give him some benefit of doubt as it seems he was misled my Jeff's testimony based on the evidence SirJohn as provided us with. 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by plaetton: 8:16pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
striktlymi: Just listen to yourself. He allowed himself to be deceived ?. Even if he allowed himself to be deceived(according to you), but he went on to forcefully and passionately market and hawk the deception as true for his benefit, knowing that he had not done his due diligence. Is that not tantamount to a Fraud on his own part? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Ukutsgp(m): 8:16pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
the guy should just apologize and pay sirJohn his half a million. he has been caught red handed. he should not put himself into more humiliation. i'm ashamed of him. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:16pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
PastorKun: I can tell you I am so nice with him here. If I was close to him physically, he won't be finding it funny and I am sorry I would not take it easy on him. I cannot allow him continue to deceive more people on nairaland. I was very calm when he was going around boasting and posting false claims. This is my turn. 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:20pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
For years i have been following the charade of jo agbaje and now the hen is about to lay its egg. Gombs and stricklymi, ask yourself why would a pastor present fake miracle video to give God glory? Are you guys in support of pious fraud? So it is right to lie to give glory to God? As a Joagbaje, a Pastor of a church that scrutinizes finances, tithes, church programs, even staffs and their families etc, would he tell us he did not check that fake video before he put it online? Please save us your fake defences. SirJohn, what is happening? Joagbaje is still adamant on deceiving himself, please bring out the ARSENALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:20pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SalC: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() i know what you mean!...but, This thread will die faster than it came up... you doubt? ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:21pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Supposed defence falls flat and FRA Williams and Femi Falana are trying their best to put a defence for a case that has no legs. After all the mouth made by "pastor" he is now grovelling. Mr. bravado pastor is no longer offering cash on vegas odds. Meanwhile his integrity is at stake for a bet made on a topic since his supposed defrnce falls flat on its face. To "pastor's" credit his robust reply was 23 minutes late even though he has not really told us anything new. This pastor was ready to boast on a medical report that is still not available yet he expects us to take him seriously when there is no medical report at this point. After making all the noise, his claims are still unfounded,yet his defence team of Shapiro,Kardashian and Cochran ate still blabbing and slapping themselves on the back and congratulating themselves. We no be small pikins here. Get a signed copy of his medical report saying he is HIV negative and post it here for us to see. Simple. 5 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:22pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs: Dont please yourself boy, The candour to fish out fake pastors is burning than ever. You should know this thread will be one of the best threads of the year. Just like the way saTANs say all sorts of things to please their troubling hearts. 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by nep2ra(m): 8:22pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs: Without a doubt, you are just an ar5se licking douche bag. Go hang yourself. Moronic oaf! 6 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:23pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs: And trust me, you aint laughing! 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:25pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
diluminati: ![]() ![]() this is not politics section... i hope you understand that fast |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:26pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
gombs post: i'm back... Candour, i saw your post...why exactly should i apologize to sirjohn? flourishG:counter attack of life ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:27pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs: For real, i dont have your time. You can unfollow the thread now and never come back, just like you said. As we await SirJohn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SirJohn(m): 8:27pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: You sent the video link to Jeff on September 21 and in the chat he said he watched the video. When I called him, he told me the same thing but changed his story when my interrogations became vicious. On October 28th, he claimed in a phone conversation that he has finally watched the video and that he was the same person in the video, he even promised to send me a picture of him wearing the same clothes (I sent you the voice recording) It was on Sunday you finally admitted that you confirmed he was not the one in the video, it was the same Sunday I noticed that you removed the link from your profile. Jeff then called me on Monday to finally admit that he was not the one in the video, that was strange to me because he never calls me, remember I had to ask you if you asked him to call me. Now listen Joagbaje, like I've told you before, you have to take responsibility for whatever this video and your lame claims are doing to you now because it was solely your responsibility to ensure this didn't happen Joagbaje:Joagbaje, I want to repeat that the purpose of this thread is not to ridicule you, you know that with the information I have I could as well paint a picture of you being complicit in this misrepresentation. You challenged me to prove that the guy was not healed, that is what this is all about not about Joagbaje being a fraud. I have gotten to the point where you cannot deny that he was not healed with the weight of evidence you and I are privy to. So don't try to play smart, just sign my cheque straight away ![]() I did the investigation and the result is what this thread seeks to unravel. Jeff claimed he got HIV because he didn't pay his firstfruits; he gave a lengthy tale about how his pastor warned him about not giving his firstfruits. He initially claimed he had the test results and even asked me to send my email to him so that he would send them to me (I sent you this recording as well) Later he claimed the doctor that diagnosed him has been transferred from the hospital, remember I told you it wasn't a problem that as long as he has his files in the hospital he could always get his details (tell me how we finally got the result we have) You insisted on sending him money to travel, he traveled to Owerri (or so he claimed) yet nothing came out of it, when I asked you to give me update on his trip to Owerri you told me he said he was attacked by robbers and he lost the reports he got ![]() When his Pastor came into the picture, things began to sit up, he helped contact Glory Land inri medical centre and Jeffs record was searched, his HIV positive report came out. But Jeff had claimed in the video that he also tested negative in the same hospital (please watch the video again) But the Negative result was no where to be found in the hospital. this proves that he lied about his status. Joagbaje: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm amazed you missed out the juicy part of the detail, why didn't you tell them that Jeff was at Mikes place in Bayelsa and he promised he would go to PH to get his negative result. Mike agreed but told him that he would take him for a fresh test in Bayelsa if he is unable to produce the result; what happened next? Jeff absconded from his house and has since not been seen. I don't know what it would take before you realize that you are being played, quit being a kid and man up to reality JOAGBAJE 24 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:28pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
diluminati: i so am ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() nep2ra: ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 8:29pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
diluminati: ![]() Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! na you quote me o, not the other way around ![]() |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by plaetton: 8:35pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: Let me ask you. If based ,for example, on the video and the threads of you boasting of curing Jeff's HIV status through prayer, some female admirers of Jeff or whom Jeff had been practicing safe sex with, had then decided to have sex with Jeff unprotected, and thereby contracting HIV, do you Joagbaje take responsibility that you sir, have been a serious public hazard may have jeopardized the lives of many many people over that last 3 yrs of this incident? You know I have called you a public health hazard many many times. Do you sincerely agree and wish to make a public apology for the unknown lives you might have ruined? 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Topgainer: 8:35pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Gombs: GOMBs this thread is not gonna die. It will be ONLINE for so long a time may possibly outlive Loveworlds should they continue with staged miracles to fetch God glory and fetch more fame for themselves. The very thing that puts Christianity ti disrepute Victims then will come here to see they were fore-warned years ago and as such they will have some consolation 4 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by vooks: 8:35pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
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Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:35pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
sir john is here. watch him punch holes in that air bag defence. |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 8:37pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SirJohn: i have some questions and some catching up here. is it that Joagbaje and Jeff were confident that it was Jef throughout the video? Then later the same Joagbaje and Jeff denied that Jeff was never in the video? Its surprising, since a Pastor that brings church materials to the viewership of millions would have scrutinized the video in and out before releasing it to the public. or did Joagbaje know about the deceit but decided to lie to give God glory? 4 Likes |
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