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| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Mcslize: 6:59pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
Bobbyzain: we are direct Entry candidates not post utme. We only need our jamb Original admision Letter |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Ogomhan: 10:16pm On Nov 07, 2014 |
any pol sci education in the house |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Bobbyzain(m): 3:08pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Mcslize:then its lucky u then |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Edoh10(m): 3:12pm On Nov 08, 2014 |
Bobbyzain:We r nt lucky bt blessed 1 Like |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 11:12am On Nov 09, 2014 |
chidarlus: Just know this:A graduate of optometry cannot go back to write jamb to enter medicine...Either he failed out of optometry school or stopped half way...Its impossible that an OD will go back to write jamb....Biochem,maybe...OD,no way.So d guy is just taking you for a ride... |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 11:13am On Nov 09, 2014 |
chidarlus: Just know this:A Doctor of optometry cannot go back to write jamb to enter medicine...Either he failed out of optometry school or stopped half way...Its impossible that an OD will go back to write jamb....Bsc Biochemistry,maybe...OD,no way.So d guy is just taking you for a ride... |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by muhdy: 3:37pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
Dmillz:I guess the clearance will have to begin first abi..bfore we start that waka |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by chidarlus(m): 4:26pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
originbm:mr boss man I hate arguing....d person in question have already commented on this trend abt his DE admission into medicine and as for his utme admission,I saw his admission letter with my eyes....am a medical laboratory scientist(practising) in a federal teaching hospital but I still went for DE just to read mbbs(u and I know that a medical laboratory scientist starting salary is slightly higher than an optometrist ,dia professional body is d weakest in medical field) ..so mr boss, mbbs and optometry aiint same and if you are truely an optometrist u probably would know that Nigeria is d worst place to practise optometry(I mean no disrespect boss),how much do de pay dia interns(optometry)?....broda when u go to to hospitals(federal) u see optomologist(mbbs graduates dat became specialist in optometry dpt) so me no blame d guy for opting for mbbs after optometry and I don't doubt him,cos I saw his admission letter into year 1 and in his PUDE screening photocard I saw course studied: optometry...happy sunday boss |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by optm(m): 5:49pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
chidarlus:. Really med lab salary bigger? Bros go get ur facts right. Even optometry interns on fed scale re on cohess9. Nd their entry pay is same as d med bt cal duty allowances nd odas allowances mks it higher. Frm reliable source i hv gat my info |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Bobbyzain(m): 10:04pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
Edoh10:still the same thing |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 12:01am On Nov 10, 2014 |
chidarlus: Hahahah....u say dat the starting salary for a medical lab scientist is wat?Medical lab scientists are the least paid in nigerian health profession.they start from conhess 7.Are u really working at all?Perhaps u dont know that it was only recently dat they stopped paying optometrists call duty?Just type up conhess salaries....Optometry is the highest paid health profession aside of medicine.Only pharmacy compares with them....They pay radiographers much more than mls not to talk of optometry..... Optometry body is tepid because most practitioners make money from independent practice....In independent practice can u compare mls with optometry?Mls no join at all...even physiotherapy is better than them.... Eye hospitals and military establishments pay optometry interns exactly wat they pay medical doctors...its just that majority of the hospitals are in the north and middle belt...Many ODs are in private practice,and they make hell..,even more than the average regular hospitals...mls is not in the equation at all....dats y they are carrying johesu on their head,because if federal govt no pay them,no level for them... And to tell u ,guys that interned in national eye hospital last year were paid 171k per month.So u know say no be beans.... Do u know dat most ophthalmologists are in independent practice?Only few work in govt hospitals?And i tell u dat the highest paid health workers mibus medical doctor are optometrists.go check it up. Not only that ,when mls graduate want to lecture they start from graduate assistant,when optometrists wants to lecture he starts from lecturer 2 just like medical doctors...i.e he jumps graduate assistant,assistant lecturer and goes straight to lecturer 2....get ur facts right. |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 12:06am On Nov 10, 2014 |
Nigeria is actually a very good place to practice optometry....if u doubt me check out good eye clinics around you...the money is unbelievable....thats why optometrists dont care much about hospital politics...not even dentistry can compare with optometry in private practice...ask around. I once visited a hospital in benin city,Faith hospital to be exact.I went around the whole sections.I went to their dental session no one was there.I went to their outpatient section,just a handfull of geriatric patients.Then i went to their eye section...i couldnt believe the queue i saw there... Visit eye clinics and judge for yourself...infact optometry is one of the few health care professions in which u can becone a millionaire within a short time of establishing a GOOD practice...It may take funds to open a good one,but ur return is more than guaranteed,unlike a medical lab. And have this at the back of your mind,u dont need a medical doctor to tell u to visit an optometrist...like the mls,or to interprete a diagnostic report...the optometrist does everything from beginning to end,from diagnosis to clinical integration,to assessment,to plan, without any input from any other person,and only refers when referral is needed...so i think u should start seeing the great difference btw an OD and a medical lab scientist.... |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by chidarlus(m): 12:58pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
optm:gud day sir....thnk u sir for your critics but if u re really in the medical profession,please kindly list the federal hospitals that employ optometry interns/optometrists nd kindly list how many universities(both state and federal) awarding dr of optometry in nigeria ,I work at ucth,and I can confidently say dat d don't take optometry interns/optometrist(d make use of dia optomologist(specialist mbbs holders in optometry) in fact in ALMOST all of the fmc(s) in nigeria I don't fink d absorb opt interns and ,med lab scientists are paid call duty allowance(too) as we take calls....hazard allowance(same amount for all health workers ,5000naira) and until recently teaching allowance(same for all health workers around 8000 sumfin naira)....and abeg no de lie oooo......opt interns are on LESS than conhess 8 step 2 not to sure abt dia starting salary though...but d issue be say which /hw many federal/govt hopitals de absorb opt interns. dia interns end up mostly in private hospitals/clinics( I have opt colleagues that graduated alongside wit me and d only health workers dia interns are on cohess 9 is pharmacy(apart from mbbs interns as house officers are not on cohess salary scale) ....so I have more than FACTS sire.....have a wonderful day |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by chidarlus(m): 1:18pm On Nov 10, 2014 |
originbm:well spoken sire.....mls are not on cohess 7 but was formerly on cohess 8 step 2,bt currently mls starting salary is currently on cohess 9 step 2 and wit due respect I shud be asking you wada you re actually working at all and so optometrists are not bin paid call duty allowances?...hahaha(too bad for 'em ooo)and abeg which hospital pay radiologist higher than mls and u can't for the love of God jump from graduate assistance to lecturer without u msc...U get ur FACTS right |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 12:19am On Nov 11, 2014 |
chidarlus: My brother ,one problem i hv with people is that they wont like to verify issues even when every available info is at their disposal... 1.An holder of OD does not need a masters degree to lecture...In d department of optometry there is nothing like graduate assistant or assistant lecturer. 2.An OD together with 2 fellowships is enough to make u a senior lecturer and even professor...a fellowship(e.g FAAO,FNCO etc)is bigger than a phd . 3.In uniben ,only four depts have this modus operandi and they are medicine and surgery,dentistry,pharm d,and optometry.And for these four depts,the pass mark for any of thier courses is 50%. 4.The implication is that an OD,MBBS,BDS or PHARMD(at least until it was suspended) is bigger than any masters degree from all other depts... 5.And of course u know that OD is unclassified...they dont offer first class,second class etc like other depts.An OD is an OD.Just like mbbs and bds. 6.Check around,mls and optometry cant earn the same thing...i never said radiologists,i said radiographers...radiologists are medical doctors specializing in radiological treatment proceedures...radiographers are imaging scientists that take radiographic images and other systematics like ultrasound,ct etc. 7.See,my bro,i can tell u d truth since u r now studying medicine,MLS is d least paid in health professions...they start at conhess 7.Optometrists just stopped earning exactly same amount as medical doctors with the introduction of conmes,conhess system around 2009 or 2010. 9.The call duty was suspended in delta state after tussle with nma.Then optometrists were the only health care professionalscaside of medicine and dentistry being paid call duty. 10.I dont know how the situation over there is now,but on no occassion has mls recievedcsame amount as optometrists...the only guys that come close are pharmacists.....But the problem with pharmacists is that the hospitals started employing pharmacy technicians instead of pharmacists,which lead psn to scrap pharmacy technician course in ubth. |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 12:21am On Nov 11, 2014 |
chidarlus: |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 12:21am On Nov 11, 2014 |
chidarlus: My brother ,one problem i hv with people is that they wont like to verify issues even when every available info is at their disposal... 1.An holder of OD does not need a masters degree to lecture...In d department of optometry there is nothing like graduate assistant or assistant lecturer. 2.An OD together with 2 fellowships is enough to make u a senior lecturer and even professor...a fellowship(e.g FAAO,FNCO etc)is bigger than a phd . 3.In uniben ,only four depts have this modus operandi and they are medicine and surgery,dentistry,pharm d,and optometry.And for these four depts,the pass mark for any of thier courses is 50%. 4.The implication is that an OD,MBBS,BDS or PHARMD(at least until it was suspended) is bigger than any masters degree from all other depts... 5.And of course u know that OD is unclassified...they dont offer first class,second class etc like other depts.An OD is an OD.Just like mbbs and bds. 6.Check around,mls and optometry cant earn the same thing...i never said radiologists,i said radiographers...radiologists are medical doctors specializing in radiological treatment proceedures...radiographers are imaging scientists that take radiographic images and other systematics like ultrasound,ct etc. 7.See,my bro,i can tell u d truth since u r now studying medicine,MLS is d least paid in health professions...they start at conhess 7.Optometrists just stopped earning exactly same amount as medical doctors with the introduction of conmes,conhess system around 2009 or 2010. 9.The call duty was suspended in delta state after tussle with nma.Then optometrists were the only health care professionalscaside of medicine and dentistry being paid call duty. 10.I dont know how the situation over there is now,but on no occassion has mls recievedcsame amount as optometrists...the only guys that come close are pharmacists.....But the problem with pharmacists is that the hospitals started employing pharmacy technicians instead of pharmacists,which lead psn to scrap pharmacy technician course in ubth. |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 12:22am On Nov 11, 2014 |
chidarlus: |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 12:42am On Nov 11, 2014 |
chidarlus: Bro this is a simple issue,just type this on google"Optometry vs pharmacy vs mls salary scale on conhess"Just type it. 1.One thing is that southern CMDs have this resentment for optometrists which make them not take them for internship.thats just professional rivalry. 2.I think their governing body dont care because the situation gives them cheap source of labour. 3.But make no mistake about it,optometry internship,and pharmacy internship are the only ones fully recognised in nigeria among health care professionals excluding medicine and dentistry. 4.If u doubt me ,dial up the requirements for nysc service on the net and u would see that only four profession's internship schemes are made prerequisite for youth service and those are:medicine,dentistry,optometry and pharmacy.U can check it out. 5.That CMDs dont absorb them is because of spite.And it is illegal.Hospitals in the north and middlebelt do,probably because eye diseases are more endemic there. 6.Military establishments do and pay them exactly like medical doctors and more than pharmacists. 7.There is no situation in which a pharmacist can be paid more than an optometrist in hospitals...and in eye hospitals and military hospitals ODs are paid more. 8.The internet is there,check these things out...Check out the issues that led to the creation of conmess/conhess scheme.Check out optometry grade in 2008.it was exactly same as dat of medical doctors.In nma's 14 point secular,the fact that optometry was recieving exacly same salary as themselves was one of thier grouse...check these facts out... |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Edoh10(m): 9:52pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Bobbyzain:No b d same boss |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by chidarlus(m): 12:45am On Nov 12, 2014 |
originbm:nice point sir....spoken like a true optometrist..but I must say that most of the points you outlined just prove my own points(dat NIGERIA is the WORST place to practise optometry,making oda younger health professions BETTER than it in NIGERIA).for instance in point 1 u made it clear that internship for optometrist are difficult because most CMDS resent the profession which proves the point that your professional body/heads are not strong(bros every federal/govt owned hospital across NIGERIA have slots for aspiring mls interns....your point 2 further magnified d possibility/reason of an OD to opt for mbbs (which once again means that Nigeria is not a GOOD place to practice optometry and thus you can't for the love of GOD question an OD that chooses to go for mbbs)....as for ur point 3, I only have 3words to say sire :BIG FAT LIE. As for point 4...how old is the governing bodies of pharmacy,optometry and mbbs/dentistry compared to mls and radiology/radiography?if actually you are working/have ever hunted for job before, you would have recognised that in d adverts, d usually write 'vacancy for post of medical laboratory TECHNICIAN instead of medical laboratory SCIENTIST same goes to when u check jamb brochure(this is because not long ago medical laboratory science was offered as a diploma program and even after it was changed exclusively to a degree program BMLS,d name medical laboratory technician still sticks)....you may be thinking wat point am trying to make,well here it is: we all know that we(NIGERIANS) tend to stick to OLD ways of doing things(for instance,many years after changing power authority in Nigeria,we still use the word NEPA) .so the fact that INTERNSHIP for mls and oda health professions are excluded from d big four(which I strongly believe is based on how old the governing body is) doesn't mean that internship for 'em re not 'prerequisite for NYSC'(go to NYSC camp go present provisional licence see wada dem go allow you enter)and secondly we know that most federal bodies(like nysc,jamb etc) in Nigeria hardly re-edit what d have in their data base to accommodate new trends(dats also a reason). For point 5;CMDS also hate mls but de don't stop our absorption into public service cause our professional body is strong(we initiated creation of johesu)and why won't d be absorbed in the north when people are fleeing from dia? As for dia absorption in d south...well,I don't know oooo(I can't FIT shout,hehehe)..with due respect sir, I have two words for point 6:FAT LIE...For the love of JESUS!! Don't compare pharmacy with optometry sir (pharmacy beat optometry both in salary,job and research opportunities except dat u guys earn more money in private practice)..as for your point 8.I can help but wonder...hmmmm.....an OD spent 6yrs in sch(and is also called a doctor) which is same with a mbbs holder(MD) right?..so if optometry practice is great in nigeria how come OD(s) don't earn d same with MD(s) and y remove dia call duty allowance(mls take calls nd re paid call duty allowance),why are MD(s) kicking them away from public hospitals(d only answer to that is --optometry as a health profession is not fully recognised in NIgeria ...you are comparing optometry with mls,when mls/ oda health workers embark on strike MD(s)/fed govt beg for d strike to end but what happens when optometrists strike huh?,infact how many times have NOA embarked on strike for the sake of its members sir?... .....BUT honourable originbm....considering the fact that NOA is like 25years old and MLSCN is just 11years old, don't you think mls is doing just fine?,even better than optometry did 14years back(NOA was 11yrs then)...PLS don't get me wrong sire,Optometry is a very WONDERFUL n NOBLE profession( I THINK it ranked #12 in terms of professional courses in d world)and believe me when I say i have plenty respect for you guys...outside Nigeria optometry may be next/equal to mbbs,but here in Nigeria optometry is d LEAST LUCRATIVE HEALTH profession in OUR PUBLIC sector(don't wanna talk about private sector,because una fit d make money for dia pass odas but definitely not mls)...THANK sir |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Bluedove(m): 9:39am On Nov 13, 2014 |
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| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 8:25pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
chidarlus: Haha,my bro,this is just fun and informative...there is no rancour,believe me i actually admire u...maybe one day we'll really meet... 1.2 of the links i gave u are for 2014,including the one for edo state. 2.If u r on conhess 9,then u have been promoted,mls dont start on conhess 9.give me a link that has ever advertised mls on conhess 9. 3.U said optometrists dont consult in private cinics....hahaha....i will advice u to at least read up b4 u write...Optometrists are the only health care professionals(aside of medical doctors and dentists) dat are LEGALLY permitted to diagnose,integrate clinically,prescribe both topical and systemic drugs whether therapeutically or diagnostically,prescribe aids and lenses,and prove the full spectrum of clinical care...do u need a link to optometrist enablement act? 4.Refracting in itself is a specialty.Its one of richest proceedure in eye care....ophthalmologists make the bulk of their cash from refraction....how many ocular surgeries do u think is performed by the average ophthalmologist in a yr? 5.The only proceedure that an optometrist is not permitted to perform in nigeria is surgery.That is the precint of the ophthalmologist just like refaction is the precint of the optometrist. 6.Optometrist refer not only to ophthalmologists when necessary,but to neurologist or pcp... 7.Opticians are better called dispensing optics professionals.They dispense prescriptions written by the optometrist or ophthalmologist.And they are trained to interprete prescriptions and dispense the prescriptions just like a pharmacist dispenses drugs.They dont refract.Only optometrists and ophthalmologists refract,even though ophthalmologists are not very good in it. 8.Have u ever been to an eye clinic?u think in a private eye clinic u can differentiate between the optometrist and ophthalmologist? 9.Ophthalmologist only come in when some serious situations that may require general anaesthesia presents.In many optometry clinics,opthalmologists are only called when surgical services are needed...look up optometric eye clinics...u should. 10.Optometrists are primary eye care practitioners.Find out what it means. 11.Am sorry,wat do u mean by medical lab consulting?do u carry out diagnosis and institute treatment?dont make me laugh....medical rehabilitation comes b4 mls...sorry,but thats the truth.... 12.I have told u the reason for the apparent disinterest of optometry in public service..its wat it is... 13.The apparent trouble u guys have is dat u have not seen mega eye clinics...get to abuja,port or Lagos... 14.How can a medical lab scientist consult when he is not legally permitted to open a clinic?do u now consult in a lab?This is wonderful...Optometrists own eye clinics,a medical lab scientist cannot own a clinic,and a lab is not meant for consultation,or do u buy cards for lab test now? 15.Optometry ,has always been an independent profession...they hv not shown any willingness to enter into public service,but things are starting to change now...as some are now interested in public service...they hv achieved more than any other health care professions in areas in which they are genuinely interested... 16.My brother we r just gisting...we are all in the same game...but sha check out facts and no dey make me repeat points i hv already made... we aint fighting,we just gisting...in fact take one bottle of star,i go pay..... |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by originbm: 8:38pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
chidarlus: Haha,my bro,this is just fun and informative...there is no rancour,believe me i actually admire u...maybe one day we'll really meet... 1.2 of the links i gave u are for 2014,including the one for edo state. 2.If u r on conhess 9,then u have been promoted,mls dont start on conhess 9.give me a link that has ever advertised mls on conhess 9. 3.U said optometrists dont consult in private cinics....hahaha....i will advice u to at least read up b4 u write...Optometrists are the only health care professionals(aside of medical doctors and dentists) dat are LEGALLY permitted to diagnose,integrate clinically,prescribe both topical and systemic drugs whether therapeutically or diagnostically,prescribe aids and lenses,and prove the full spectrum of clinical care...do u need a link to optometrist enablement act? 4.Refracting in itself is a specialty.Its one of richest proceedure in eye care....ophthalmologists make the bulk of their cash from refraction....how many ocular surgeries do u think is performed by the average ophthalmologist in a yr? 5.The only proceedure that an optometrist is not permitted to perform in nigeria is surgery.That is the precint of the ophthalmologist just like refaction is the precint of the optometrist. 6.Optometrist refer not only to ophthalmologists when necessary,but to neurologist or pcp... 7.Opticians are better called dispensing optics professionals.They dispense prescriptions written by the optometrist or ophthalmologist.And they are trained to interprete prescriptions and dispense the prescriptions just like a pharmacist dispenses drugs.They dont refract.Only optometrists and ophthalmologists refract,even though ophthalmologists are not very good in it. 8.Have u ever been to an eye clinic?u think in a private eye clinic u can differentiate between the optometrist and ophthalmologist? 9.Ophthalmologist only come in when some serious situations that may require general anaesthesia presents.In many optometry clinics,opthalmologists are only called when surgical services are needed...look up optometric eye clinics...u should. 10.Optometrists are primary eye care practitioners.Find out what it means. 11.Am sorry,wat do u mean by medical lab consulting?do u carry out diagnosis and institute treatment?dont make me laugh....medical rehabilitation comes b4 mls...sorry,but thats the truth.... 12.I have told u the reason for the apparent disinterest of optometry in public service..its wat it is... 13.The apparent trouble u guys have is dat u have not seen mega eye clinics...get to abuja,port or Lagos... 14.How can a medical lab scientist consult when he is not legally permitted to open a clinic?do u now consult in a lab?This is wonderful...Optometrists own eye clinics,a medical lab scientist cannot own a clinic,and a lab is not meant for consultation,or do u buy cards for lab test now? 15.Optometry ,has always been an independent profession...they hv not shown any willingness to enter into public service,but things are starting to change now...as some are now interested in public service...they hv achieved more than any other health care professions in areas in which they are genuinely interested... 17.It seems like u didnt understand noa's comment....Optometrists are not begging to be primary eye care professionals.They are already primary eye care practitioners legally.They are complaining that the rivalry btw them and ophthalmologist is preventing them from playing their roles in TEACHING HOSPITALS.In other settings they perform their functions of primary eye care practitioner,both in private and state hospitals...Ophthalmologists dont want to start sharing consulting powers with them in the teaching hospitals. 18.Even our student doctors go on outreach in their 500 level to communities where they treat ocular disorders of both refractive and pathological origin... so.... 19.My brother we r just gisting...we are all in the same game...but sha check out facts and no dey make me repeat points i hv already made... we aint fighting,we just gisting...in fact take one bottle of star,i go pay..... 1 Like |
| Re: Uniben Direct Entry 2014/2015 by Samlo88(m): 12:18am On Nov 14, 2014 |
This thread has now come back to life again...Courtesy of these bosses Oga chidarlus & Oga originbm. Una argument dey educative, informative & entertaining. Abeg, I have 2 questions for both una to enlight me on dis borny issue dat's troubling my mind |
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