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Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:21pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
plaetton: What was annoying was how they wanted to coined it as a mistake on the part of Joagbaje that he was deceived by Jeff. Why would Jeff wander of the streets into Joagbaje's church just to testify that he was healed when he wasn't. Remember Sirjohn told us he has lost his job. Joagbaje wants me to believe that he was sending Jeff money to get his HIV report or conspiring with him. This same Joagbaje told us he can cure ebola ![]() 10 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 9:21pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
vooks: ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SirJohn(m): 9:21pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje 4:46am On Oct 05: Joagbaje, Did I prove to you that the video was a joke? YES Did I prove that the guy wasn't healed? YES Did I prove you wrong? YES If your response is contrary, please say ![]() This is the guys medical report, the only one we could get in two months; can you provide a negative report to cancel this out? NO 11 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:24pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SirJohn: Joagbaje abeg pay this man his money. No too much talk inside. Sirjohn call him on phone let him come and tell the house the date of payment. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by plaetton: 9:25pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: The same Joagbaje tried to sell an ebola miracle cure here a few weeks ago. I was so pissed off I quickly reported tot he mods to have the thread removed. I just can't imagine what is in the hearts of these people and the others that support them. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 9:25pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
plaetton: It seems you want to redefine the meaning of fraud. Not taking time out to do ones due diligence does not define fraud. |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:27pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
vooks: he is a lunatic. exactly like the ones eating faeces in Upper Iweka Onitsha 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 9:27pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: well he needs more tutelage on how to make "miracles" appear real. Jerry Curl master would be disappointed in him for not being able to cover his tracks on this one. He could lose his position as pastor of whatever branch of goons he is brainwashing in bayelsa. Now thay would not be funny. No more tithe and offering to consume. 7 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by paulGrundy(m): 9:27pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SirJohn: Can't even see anything, writeup is so tiny. Joagbaje what do you have to say about this? |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 9:29pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13:Abi o. No story warranty. Pay up or shut up. The guys credibility is in tatters on all fronts. 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:29pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
plaetton: Wickedness nothing but pure wickedness. He has financial target to meet for Christ Embassy. 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 9:39pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SirJohn is there anyway to enlarge the pic, looks tiny. 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Gombs(m): 9:39pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:41pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
My people make una see Joagbaje. Joagbaje please provide evidence for all these. Joagbaje: 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by plaetton: 9:43pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
striktlymi:Maybe in your churchtian universe it does not. But in my universe, if you take a medicine ( prayer medicine or real medicine) which you have not accurately verified it's true efficacy, and then you go on to sell such to the public and swear by it's efficacy, then YOU ARE A FRAUDSTER. If people , perhaps a loved one of yours, had been endangered by Joagbaje's public claim, would you defending him? You are just a heartless hypocrite who has shown his true colors in more ways than one. 11 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by paulGrundy(m): 9:43pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
SirJohn: Do you agree with this account of events? Joagbaje: |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Ukutsgp(m): 9:45pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
the lesson here is that we should be careful of what we say and do. we should shown boasting and vain glory. and we should be straightforward in all that we do. someone said that truth exist, it is only lies that has to be invented. 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 9:49pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: ![]() ![]() ![]() Fake long throat pastor cannot bring evidence of one healed, you are asking him for 4. Dem send you? 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:52pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
StarBoard: ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 9:53pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Ukutsgp:Word bro. I wonder when I see these men of themselves boast with so much braggadocio and make it sound like they are the sources of their abilities. At the heart of needless boasting lies emptiness and the need to be appreciated. Hence they conjure up lies as seen by fake pastor Jo. 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 9:56pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13:Bros is not a laughing matter. Charlatans like Jo are in abundance. Meanwhile plaetton is still engaging pastor Jo's FRA Williams who is defining fraud for grown men instead of doing so for his little toddler nephews 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Nobody: 10:00pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13:Dr Abalaka. Grade 1 charlatan. How are we no sure that he has not forged the 4 cases he claims he has healed? and how do we know that there is a video of him "raising" someone from the dead? Dis one na nollywood special. 3 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 10:01pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
StarBoard: I know. Once a man confronts me with the word Pastor, Evangelist, Reverend; I turn off immediately. I know how many business contacts I turned down. One invited me to his office and wanted to bribe me and I was like (in my mind) I thought this guy is a pastor. I politely declined the offer. I don't play that way - fraudsters irritates me. 4 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by kevoh(m): 10:01pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: ![]() ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by trustman: 10:01pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: @ bolded This is also called to question. Which spirit? How? 5 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by timmy2409(m): 10:02pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
The stark contrast between the demeanors of the claimants on the initial thread and on this one is so funny. Daddy pastor puts up a confusing post leaving out specific details to absolve himself of any responsibility, while his Smeagol-like pawn is resigned to posting silly pictures. As if that'll make people forget the issue at hand ![]() ![]() ![]() Really, there's one single detail that puts the nail in the coffin for any theories that this was not a planned 'miracle' on the part of Joagbaje SirJohn: Good business strategy to get those church people tithing Jo ![]() 10 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 10:03pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
StarBoard: You need to watch the full video clip of Jeff's testimony. There was a second guy, pure comedy show. That was exactly what I wanted people to watch not Jeff false testimony. Both testimonies took place the same day. if you had watch it completely you will understand that Jeff's testimony was also staged. I never see quality acting like that before. 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by paulGrundy(m): 10:04pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: Hmmm am smelling sirJohn, any let me wait for jo's response. 1 Like |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by plaetton: 10:13pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Boss13: Man, when I encounter these guys, I get convinced that i am going to heaven if such exists. I once met one packaging fake panadol in his office. A pastor. I know another that went to bribe NEPA to divert electricity from a nearby hospital so that he can enjoy light in his house. 2 Likes |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by SirJohn(m): 10:19pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Let me pass some points across Please beware of faith healing claims brandished by these so called 'Men of Like someone rightly pointed out, Joagbaje does not understand the inner dirty manipulations that go on in faith healing circles and I have tried all the years I have known him to make him understand this. All the men that he looks up to are seasoned con men who have mastered the art of deception over many years. I knew I would punch holes in his miracle claim, and its not just Joagbaje but any other fellow claiming to posses the ability to work wonders and miracles. The emphasis on miracles today is an error and those who have given themselves to it will continue to suffer similar fate as Joagbaje. Since they will not humble their ears to truth, they will forever fall prey for very silly and cheap lies. God does not need to prove himself anymore than he has done, He is God whether the blind see or not, He is God whether HIV remains positive or negative; if you struggle to accept this truth, then all I can say is 'I'm so sorry for you' I have never regarded Joagbaje as a fraud, I have spoken with him on several occasions on several issues over the years and the only thing I think is his problem is that he is very gullible, he lacks the ability to discern properly and I know I have said this to KunleOshob now pastorkun ![]() This is one case where my judgement of him proved spot on. Even now, Joagbaje does not mind sending the Jeff of a guy more money. I did some digging on Jeff Niboro and I suspect this guy may be an online sexual predator; well thats for another day. I really hope he learns from this 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by plaetton: 10:24pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
timmy2409: Exactly. This is what it is all about. Money to crooks like joagbaje is the bottom line. They don'ever care who is harmed. I see no difference between him and an armed robber. 3 Likes |
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