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Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by bukatyne(f): 11:15pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Glad my little contribution to the thread worked ![]() I will also steer clear from Muslims so I do not get blown up and priests so that I am not molested. ![]() Goodnight y'all ![]() |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 2:00am On Nov 14, 2014 |
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Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 2:05am On Nov 14, 2014 |
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Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 2:11am On Nov 14, 2014 |
cKaiser: You're making rather ludicrous statements. Nature doesn't gravitate either sex towards anything besides the ease of developing muscle mass for men - that is all (and of course a difference in reproductive roles). If you have learnt anything about sociology or looked around a little, you will realize that the toys given to kids to play with are strictly based on the bias of parents. The loving nature of people - based on societal conditioning. Taking risks: human psychology is so warped, we are easily adapted to anything. Testosterone isn't enough to make a strong enough mark in terms of aggression and fear and risk taking for individuals. You haven't seen excellent and/or reckless female gamblers, have you? 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 2:14am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: Yes, that's what we want. Why? Because nature gave us an equitable system. Slightly different roles, but abilities and adaptation to make tem insignificant and trivial. We don't need to "earn" what you have systematically "taken away" from us. 5 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 2:25am On Nov 14, 2014 |
iykedare: Nah! People tend to be incapable of being tired of their oppression. Maybe when the oppressive system leaves them alone, you know? Uhn? No, you wouldn't know - you are king of the oppression. 5 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:09am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: No, she didn't expect me to woo men. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:13am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: So all women have a loving and nurturing nature? Really? So being loving and nurturing qualifies you for house chores? By the way, what is all this talk about hunting? Are we talking about the 21st century or not? Do you still go hunting? 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:14am On Nov 14, 2014 |
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Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:33am On Nov 14, 2014 |
[quote author=carefreewannabe post=27998126][/quote]That was me setting you straight on a question I didn't ask you. *smh |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:42am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten:1. But it was patriarchal, wasn't it? A patriarchal society is what it is, comparison is terms of degree of patriarchy from one society to another is not the subject of this thread and, even if it were, doesn't make me wrong. In fact, it paints the illogic your comment. 2. Women throughout history have owned property even the Europeans who you claimed were less egalitarian than Africans. 3. Debatable. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 7:45am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: S.m.h.. O.k. You win..men are evil,women are wonderful Comprehension on d oda hand is a Bitch. Enjoy.. 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:52am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: @bold I disagree. And I cannot understand how you reached this conclusion. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:53am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: Ok, please explain what wooing has to do with feminism now. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:53am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten:We didn't take shiit, you people just chose to ride on the back of the success of men and expect the same respect, since you're not getting it you've developed penis-envy. Well, there's equality in the west, let's see what the women in those lands contribute to the human race by way of inventions and innovation in the next 20years. Scratch that, I dare you to contribute anything tangible to your immediate community. You can't and you won't becase it's not your cup of tea. Meanwhile, there are people, men, of course, who will sacrifice their time to do so and succeed at it. You are a woman, the best you'll ever be is a woman. You may envy my diick and try a sex change but deep down, it's just an artificial diick. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 7:55am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:maybe when you answer my question ![]() |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 7:56am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: Lol. I assure you if you take a crash course in history, you will learn how wrong you are. Awks that a woman is educating you, innit? 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:00am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 8:01am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: You don't read much, do you? Again, terrible claims. First, a little history would show you how women have been disadvantaged over the centuries millenia even). Historians agree - both male and female, black and white. Women have been doing phenomenal stuff. In politics, Literature, other branches of Arts, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Business. Just name it. You're about to ask me for a list? And I just would realize how ignorant you are. You know this? Then there is no argument, hun? 4 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:01am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: Let us see what and how many Nigerian men will "contribute to the human race by way of inventions and innovations in the next 20 years". What have they contributed anyway so far? They have been free to do it for centuries. What have they achieved? 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:03am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten:1. Feel free to prove that African society wasn't patriarchal. 2. Nah, I don't hate women. I'm disgusted by people who feel entitlted to what they haven't legitimately earned. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 8:03am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten: Thank You. Peeps just talk without reading up on their history. I've said it n will stand by it..I've not come across societies that were more protective of female rights than African societies and to a large extent, that MENTALITY hasn't changed. In Iboland, I think, d woman is allowed to share the properties she has acquired t her children n d husband/or soda members of d family has no right to it,unlike f d man whom by law is required t share according t d no. Of wives n children he has. Like I said b4, don't know wat all d B.S is about. If u want respect,Work f it..it's that simple. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:06am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: Skip the History lessons and face the present times. (May 06, 2014) On April 14, 2014, the Nigerian Supreme Court, in a unanimous decision, confirmed decisions of two lower courts, which had found unconstitutional an Igbo customary law of succession excluding female offspring from eligibility to inherit the property of their fathers. (Lemmy Ughegbe, S'Court Upholds Female Child's Right to Inheritance in Igboland, THE GUARDIAN (Apr. 15, 2014).) http://www.loc.gov/lawweb/servlet/lloc_news?disp3_l205403968_text So women in Nigeria have to go to court to be included in their father's inheritance? And you call it fair and protective? 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 8:10am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: The underlying theme is the same, mister. The fight for equality of the genders. No, the male isn't anymore adventurous than the female or the female a better care giver. All of these things are social constructs. I don't know if you're limited in your abilities. You said d Limitations Specific to each Gender. As a human, I am not in anyway limited in my abilities. I can adapt so easily. The brain, thank God is so intricately woven and complex and adaptable to a myriad of situations - danger, fear, love, care, courage. All sorts. We are flexible beyond measure, that's what makes us human and special. If we are constricted and limited in our abilities then we are nothing more than animals - with not well-developed brains. So if you think you can't adapt yourself to show love or learn how to cook in a few weeks - you know nurturing and caring and housekeeping - then it's only because you don't have a well matured brain yet. Don't feel bad though, it might take some time. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by bukatyne(f): 8:10am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: What work did men do to earn their respect? I will appreciate a straight answer. I was just passing by and saw this. Thanks |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 8:13am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: Who said anything about you hating women? Comprehension skills too? Cmon, don't let a woman keep schooling you. Or wait, just maybe women are as smart as men - or as knowledgeable. Which would kinda mean women can have great minds and diverse minds and do exploits. Which might mean women can be leaders too. Have you given that any thought? Maybe women and men are fundamentally equally. At least in all that matters, centered around intelligence. 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:15am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: 1. But you don't see Nigerian men weeping and whinging for equality do you? Have you heard of Europe for Africa(feminist equivalent: he for she) or any such nonsense? Nigerian men are content with proving themselves equal or, at least, admitting and conceding when we fall short. You don't see us acting all entitled an shiit. ![]() 2. If anything our failure to catch up with 1st world nations is an embarrassment to us not a call to delusion that there's some kind of European/White conspiracy to subjugate the Nigerian. We understand that we are lagging behind through our actions and inactions. You don't see us matching to the United Nations to force oyinbos to give us what they've earned. We respect them for whatever they have achieve, and whatever envy we may feel is an indictment on our shortcomings. We are men, we can hardly afford delusions. I wish I could say the same for your ilk. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 8:18am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: Oh! And for situations where we demand equal rights? 1. Girls should not be bought only baby dolls as toys. Let them have access to a diverse amounts of toys to shape their minds in preparedness for fields ranging from the arts to the sciences 2. Women should not be discriminated against at work and should be allowed to rise through the ranks and attain leadership roles 3. women should not be blamed when raped. men should learn to control their bodies - they can, they aren't animals 4. Women should not be looked down upon when contesting political office. In the history of Nigeria, still no single female governor, talk less of VP or President 5. Women should not be told that marriage defines them. Let them pick for themselves what defines them and what doesn't, what they like and what they don't. 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Zexten(f): 8:21am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: Well but we see Nigerian men whining about how they detest feminism. Instead for them to change the world,t hey are scared like puppies of what the women folk can do if not restricted. No? Also, you don't go out much I see. There are a crap ton of Nigerian men who blame colonialism for the woes of the African state. See? See? 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:23am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: Why would they want equality when inequality favors them? Logic? 2. If anything our failure to catch up with 1st world nations is an embarrassment to us not a call to delusion that there's some kind of European/White conspiracy to subjugate the Nigerian. We understand that we are lagging behind through our actions and inactions. You don't see us matching to the United Nations to force oyinbos to give us what they've earned. We respect them for whatever they have achieve, and whatever envy we may feel is an indictment on our shortcomings. We are men, we can hardly afford delusions. I wish I could say the same for your ilk. Nigerian men are not whining that they have been the victims of white nations? Yeah, sure! ![]() What have you as a man earned and achieved that I want you to give me? 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 8:23am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Men systematically took away d rights of woman ![]() How ![]() Has d African woman not always Had a Voice. Weren't there female societies to that purpose?? Who is presently ruling d country? ![]() As much as dre patriarchal, weren't dre also matrilineal societies as well #Ghana. You talk abt d present, aren't there More women in positions of authority than ever before ![]() Let's get something's straight; As long as there are Gender Specific Limitations, there Can NEVER be absolute equality. There are privileges associated with each sex, embrace it, maximise ur potential thru it n live your life. Food f that...if d female situation in Africa was so bad,or their rights so trampled underfoot, feminism would've had it's roots/begun here. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:24am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten:You said "awks you're been educated by a woman" to which I gave that response. Apparently, I'd have to hate or have contempt for women to find one educating me awkward. But I'm the one with comprehension problems ![]() Women may be as smart as men or smarter, pray tell, what has that contributed to society? How much do women contribute to the real sector of the economy of the world as a whole in comparison to men's? Reminds one of the 3 year old extra tutoring thread. Funny. Women have and are leaders, Margaret Thatcher for one, again ratio and proportion(primary 4 maths). Women have always been intelligent, one wonders, therefore, how they came to be "oppressed" by the man. Surely, they could have fought oppression from as far as it's inception, no? |
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