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Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 8:31am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: Am not IBO but understand this.. The man's property is shared amongst his wives/wife n sons, she then is AT LIBERTY to share/distribute as she deems fit t her ofoffspring. Wat DAT judgement sought t correct is d direct inheritance of d female t her fathers property. If u want to really go with it, a man without a male child leaves all his worldly possession to d female child, wen she gets married,wat happens then ![]() Y'all need to understand, these systems were in place to Ensure a balance/stability n dey were quite flexible. Is that an e.g. of rights bin trampled on ?? |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:34am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: Come on, the female child has been discriminated against and it is OBVIOUS. I don't care what happens when there are no male children. Why are daughters not worthy of the father's inheritance when there are sons? 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:35am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten:1. This isn't restricted to Nigerian men, all manly men are. Even those in the feminised countries you so love detest it. It's a societal cancer. 2. Nigerian women have been unrestricted from time immemorial, Nigerian men aren't scared of that. Perhaps, you should revisit the history you claim to be an expert of. 3. Like I said to someone before, there will be imbecilles on both sides. If the white did damagean are we to lie in a river of our own shiit and die? No self-respecting man would ever seriously utter those words. Easy on the snide remarks, you sound intelligent but I won't respond to any other such comments. 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 8:39am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten: Tnx...f d insults Wen next u have a flat tire that needs changing or u look for a female baby sitter or a male security guard...know this dude will be laughing@ur bullshit hypocrisy. Bye |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:41am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:1. That's not an equality-inequality question. It's a question of value and contribution. Note the difference. Your boss is your boss because of his value and contribution to the organisation over time. Looking to equalise yourself with your boss is delusional and could have you committed. 2. We don't whine, we did. Plus we are not asking for their privileges on a platter we are working towards such. We are men, that's what we do. 3. Good then. Nothing. Which would mean your problem is not patriarchy but kyriarchy. Good luck eradicating that. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:42am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: First of all, women in countries where there is equality contribute a lot to the economy; some more than men. Or do you want to tell me that every man contributes more to the economy than I do? Secondly, opinions like this are one of reasons why women decided that it is not enough and dangerous to be only responsible for the home, house chores and children. In your post, you are trying to show how much more men contribute to economy and by doing so you try to prove that contributions to economy are more important than female contributions to the family front, which is why you think that men are better and deserve something women don't. This is ONE of the reasons why feminism emerged. If you had had more respect for female traditional roles and had not considered traditionally male jobs superior and use them to establish a power imbalance and abuse it, then fewer women would have wanted to leave traditional roles. You want women to stick to traditional roles BUT you disrespect them if they do. 5 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:42am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:remind me what your response was to whether you'd expect your daughters to woo, with proof. ![]() |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:44am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: How have you contributed more than women? 2. We don't whine, we did. Plus we are not asking for their privileges on a platter we are working towards such. We are men, that's what we do. You still do. 3. Good then. Nothing. Which would mean your problem is not patriarchy but kyriarchy. Good luck eradicating that. No, my problem is that men think that whatever they do, it is of more value than what women do. And when women want to prove that they can do the same and want to do the same, you come and complain. 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:45am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: I don't expect my sons and daughters to woo anyone. They will do so anyway when they get to this age. Very simple. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:47am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten:I may not read much but the concept of ratio, proportion and value eludes you. Women have, at best, built on men's discoveries. And don't include Marie Curie, her husband was the genius, she just tagged along. No, I don't need a list. If I need a list to now them, they don't matter. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 8:50am On Nov 14, 2014 |
bukatyne: ![]() ![]() Wasn't bin specific t d female gender. Respect is earned not demanded. The earlier we understand that d beta. On d oda side, I've interns...n though one of d most hardworking ppl ve met in my life was a female..ms Pepple, d majority of females I've worked with are quite disappointing..n I say this wit all honesty. Take it however u want. If u demand respect, pull your weight irrespective of gender n you'll get it. Wat I don't get is why peeps will choose t ignore that there are physical, biological, psychological differences t each group all f d sake of argument. I don tire. Peace. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 8:52am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: Read my post again..slowly. Its expected that wateva is inherited by the wife automatically becomes the inheritance of d daughter. Secondly,the daughter will get married n leave,d son stays..so who btwn d 2 do u expect t be d primary beneficiary. In matrilineal societies,d situation is d opposite. Clear? Was it a perfect system...No But wat system is...important tin is each party was protected. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:53am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2: @bold Crap of the highest order. Who taught you to make such conjectures? Were you there, with them? You know the facts? I will tell my Polish friends what you said about her. ![]() |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:54am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: OBVIOUSLY women did not feel protected by that system. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 8:56am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:After you go come here dey form highly educated. you don't even know what expect means. Here, let me assist you: to look forward to; regard as likely to happen; anticipate the occurrence or the coming of: I expect to read it. I expect him ... dictionary.reference.com/browse/expect Look at all the parts in bold Carefree, I'm shocked. 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 9:00am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:1. To my family and immediate community, yes. I'm working on getting to the state then national level. ![]() 2. Change your circle of friends. 3. Nope, men are fair creatures we are also creatures of habit. If a man sees good work he acknowledges it and expects more good work, if he sees shitty production he remembers that as well and comes to expect from source. Problem is women majorly produce shittiness. Only a few women are truly competent and we respect them for that. Notable among your ilk: Margaret Thatcher, Dora Akunyili, two woemn who didn't need feminism. 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 9:01am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: Modified my post. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Shirley07: 9:09am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2:What success is from your own end apart from trying to suppress your pricks loving desire? I'll start taking you serious if you can tell us 1 thing that you've contributed to the world that a woman can't. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by dBard: 9:23am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten: Didn't see this before.. 1)o.k 2) If she actually does work. Personal work place experience... Some of my heads of units are averse towards taking up female interns,reason bin that you end up dealing with so many issues..shirking work cos of menstrual pains, children issues,belle issues, market ...etc. Personally of all my interns,I honestly ve t say, its disappointing d work ethics of a good no of dem. Mind u not all. My hardworking colleagues do rise thru d ranks, as they should. 3)I hate rapists..but I Will Not let d person play d victim if she had a role in it. You cannot willingly play into such situations n Not take responsibility f your actions. Crucify me if u want but that's d truth. Rape as a term right now has bin so abused its become ridiculous. The question ppl ask, why u follow am enter room,mite b annoying, but in reality, its a valid question. Agreed rape should be taken far more seriously than it is presently,but responsibility should b taken where necessary. 4) you answer dis question, in d PDP delegate election,d female Presidential aspirant got one vote, weren't dre enuff female delegates dre to have at least given her a bit more ![]() 5)To d best of my knowledge, that is not Specific t d female folks. Peace |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by jadelyn007(f): 9:24am On Nov 14, 2014 |
cKaiser:nature didn't teach boys to gravitate toward trucks n girls baby dolls, Parents n society did. Parents hardly ever buy their baby girls toys like balls, trucks e.t.c. They buy dolls n teddy bears for their girls n toy trucks n balls for their baby boys. And then when they grow up, they r taught what is lady-like n man-like. I have a girlfriend who is d only daughter of her parents, she can drive a brt bus, she drives trucks n even a water tanker. She said girl play bores her to death ryt from when she was a child. Her mum keeps telling her how unlady-like she is but she wouldn't listen What I am trying to say is this, most gender roles r chosen for us by society n culture we r born into. 3 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 9:33am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:1. Value, ratio, proportion. 2. We are the vanguards of society. Every man is/should be the lord of his home. When in the home gender roles should, for the sake of order and sanity, be adhered to. Aggression gives an edge in competition. No man on earth apportioned testoterone and oestrogen in the proportion that exists today. We understood the game and played it to perfection. If you're ever opportuned to meet Mother Nature let her know how you feel about this injustice. 3. We respect it and value it even and understand that it's important for a healthy, functional society. Male privilege is what it is because of male responsibility. If more women can take on these responsibilities I assure you they'd be given as much respect as men, haven't you heard of women with chieftaincy titles? However, when women want these privileges without the responsibilities you see such phenomena as nairaland being inundated with gender equality and feminism threads. 4. Speak for yourself. I respect my mothers and grandmothers. They were strong ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Shirley07: 9:35am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2:I die to live, Poo pusher. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 9:37am On Nov 14, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:Actually, that was supposed to be a joke. Still, she's one in how many billion women? The facts speak for themselves. Ratio, proportion, value. They love me in Poland, I can do no wrong ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 9:38am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Shirley07:Shirley, how far, I dey hungry. Wetin you cook? You sabi cook sef? Are you a real woman? |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Shirley07: 9:38am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2:Indeed, Sisi. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 9:40am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Shirley07:Amazing, who would have thought you were a mutant. Well played, Shirley. How was your night? |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by crackhaus: 9:40am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Zexten:Why are you blowing hot and cold? In one line you call them radical, in another you call them advocates of equality. So what are you saying? Are those campaigns radical or are they fighting for social equality? Clarify this before I go on. Here they are again: FCKH8 Campaign, Hollaback!, #YesAllWomen, #FreeTheNipples, TakePart.com 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Shirley07: 9:44am On Nov 14, 2014 |
freshdude2:Needs a human meat to complete the soup. Can you cut your ear for me? 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by crackhaus: 10:00am On Nov 14, 2014 |
zeb04:Lmao...after telling me to move along, you finally found your voice. Okay then, regarding this comment - in your world of gender equality, chivalrous gestures like holding/opening doors and helping someone with their bags/loads, is something only men should do for women right? Also you're yet to answer my first question, don't dodge - as a feminist, which of these feminist campaigns do you actively support or are a part of? FCKH8 Campaign, Hollaback!, #YesAllWomen, #FreeTheNipples, TakePart.com 1 Like |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by Nobody: 10:02am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Shirley07:As far as you cut your nose too. Equality, after all. |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by bukatyne(f): 10:16am On Nov 14, 2014 |
dBard: OK then Well the male gender have been respected because they are males ![]() 100% agree people ought to earn respect Funnily, I do not subscribe to giving a gender an edge or the quota system. Give everyone equal opportunities and let the best stand out. What I will also not agree with is not letting a gender have the opportunity to prove their betterness or worseness ![]() Now I think I should author a dictionary ![]() |
Re: I'm A Mother Of 2 Boys, And I Can't (and Won't) Support Feminism by bukatyne(f): 10:19am On Nov 14, 2014 |
crackhaus: Is chivalry Nigerian culture? While growing up, did our father's open doors for women, carry heavy bags etc etc.? And if a man needs help in these areas, don't you expect a woman to? |
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