bukatyne:


OK then

Well the male gender have been respected because they are males

100% agree people ought to earn respect

Funnily, I do not subscribe to giving a gender an edge or the quota system.

Give everyone equal opportunities and let the best stand out.

What I will also not agree with is not letting a gender have the opportunity to prove their betterness or worseness

Now I think I should author a dictionary

freshdude2:
As far as you cut your nose too. Equality, after all.

carefreewannabe:

OBVIOUSLY women did not feel protected by that system.

carefreewannabe:
@bold

Crap of the highest order.

Who taught you to make such conjectures? Were
you there, with them? You know the facts?

dBard:


Lol @authoring a dictionary.
Seems we're both in agreement or being agreeable

bukatyne:


Lol!

Let's just say I have my special outlook to life

For a second I thought you were talking about partnering to author a dico

Shirley07:

After I've cooked? Btw, It's other flesh I crave, not mine.

carefreewannabe:


First of all, women in countries where there is equality contribute a lot to the economy; some more than men.
Or do you want to tell me that every man contributes more to the economy than I do?

Secondly, opinions like this are one of reasons why women decided that it is not enough and dangerous to be only responsible for the home, house chores and children. In your post, you are trying to show how much more men contribute to economy and by doing so you try to prove that contributions to economy are more important than female contributions to the family front, which is why you think that men are better and deserve something women don't. This is ONE of the reasons why feminism emerged.

If you had had more respect for female traditional roles and had not considered traditionally male jobs superior and use them to establish a power imbalance and abuse it, then fewer women would have wanted to leave traditional roles.

You want women to stick to traditional roles BUT you disrespect them if they do.

bukatyne:

Is chivalry Nigerian culture?

While growing up, did our father's open doors for women, carry heavy bags etc etc.?

And if a man needs help in these areas, don't you expect a woman to?

freshdude2:
Same here. You eat my ear, I eat your nose or whtever body part I find tasty. Equality, no?

babygirlfl:


Well done carefreewannabe. I just could not ignore this post. I have read many posts from men in NL encouraging women to stick to their traditional role. Then in another post you see them asking what have women invented or contributed to society.

The People who even invented most things in the world today believe in gender equality while the African man who have not developed much suddenly thinks he is superior to the African woman. The situation becomes worse when you then realise that the same African man that thinks he is superior does not have any invention to his name. Apparently he is superior to a woman because the person that invented whatever is the same sex as him. Empty vessels indeed makes the loudest noise.

crackhaus:

Is chivalry now a culture? I thought it was common sense according to zeb04

You're Nigerian, do you want to be the recipient of chivalry or not?


Did your father, you mean...


Unfortunately I don't see/hear men complaining about their doors not being opened for them, or their bags not being carried for them, or a woman not holding their hand to cross a busy stretch of road.

And hey, what's that bit about a man needing help before a woman can give it?
The women who need chivalrous gestures - their doors being opened and heavy bags carried for them, are they handicapped or less privileged?


PS:
Like I asked the other - as a feminist yourself, which of those campaigns do you support and are actively a part of?
Also, which of them did you have a knowledge of before this thread?

dBard:


Hmmm...
Yes o...that also
But we will share d profits 70-30
As a man..I gats have d lion share

crackhaus:

Is chivalry now a culture? I thought it was common sense according to zeb04

You're Nigerian, do you want to be the recipient of chivalry or not?


Did your father, you mean...


Unfortunately I don't see/hear men complaining about their doors not being opened for them, or their bags not being carried for them, or a woman not holding their hand to cross a busy stretch of road.

And hey, what's that bit about a man needing help before a woman can give it?
The women who need chivalrous gestures - their doors being opened and heavy bags carried for them, are they handicapped or less privileged?


PS:
Like I asked the other - as a feminist yourself, which of those campaigns do you support and are actively a part of?
Also, which of them did you have a knowledge of before this thread?

bukatyne:

I am a feminist

coogar:


then you are a fraud!

i think some of you women should just accept you missed the train as far as feminism is concerned. you are too old to claim to be a feminist. you are a married woman - you were proposed to, a bride price was collected from your husband & yet you still want to claim there's equality between you & him?

no married woman in nigeria can claim to be a feminism - that is fraudulent as far as the movement goes. your feminism should have paid your brideprice. you cannot enjoy the perks that come with patriarchy & then claim feminism on the other end of the stick. the guy that married you was trained & got educated like you were.....

why was there a need to pay a price on your head?

bukatyne:

Your blood is really boiling

My husband Did not pay BP

Next

coogar:


of course, he didn't!!
you were given to him free of charge. it says so much more about you than the topic you are defending.

only teenagers in naija can claim feminism - not you old cargoes & married women. you were bought off the shelf - your feminism should have paid for your brideprice & traditional gifts brought by your hubby's family.

Shirley07:

If want food from me, cut ya ear. Now, that's Equality.

bukatyne:

Really?

I can see you skipped a dose of your drugs

Pele.

coogar:


the truth is bitter!
it must be painful for you that you have been exposed as a fraud. you were bought off the shelf(perhaps by the highest bidder of your suitors) and you are here claiming feminism?

how do you sleep at night knowing you are not practising what you preach? even if we agree that you are yoruba & most families don't collect more than N100, why didn't you pay that N100 from your own salary?

bukatyne:

Coogar drop it and kindly look for someone else to banter with.

All my posts on this thread will show I am really not interested in roundabout arguments.

Have a Nice day

pickabeau1:
FCKH8
Even small kids are not left out -_-

All for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZfltpUhP30

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/10/23/the-many-many-problems-with-fckh8s-potty-mouthed-princess-video/

pickabeau1:


Those women you quoted are brainwashed by the patriarchy

How dare they say they have expereinced no wage gap

traitors

freshdude2

coogar:


the truth is bitter!
it must be painful for you that you have been exposed as a fraud. you were bought off the shelf(perhaps by the highest bidder of your suitors) and you are here claiming feminism?

dBard:


Read my post again..slowly.
Its expected that wateva is inherited by the wife automatically becomes the inheritance of d daughter.
Secondly,the daughter will get married n leave,d son stays..so who btwn d 2 do u expect t be d primary beneficiary.
In matrilineal societies,d situation is d opposite.
Clear?
Was it a perfect system...No
But wat system is...important tin is each party was protected.

freshdude2:
After you go come here dey form highly educated. you don't even know what expect means. Here, let me assist you:

to look forward to; regard as likely to happen;
anticipate the occurrence or the coming of: I expect
to read it. I expect him ...

dictionary.reference.com/browse/expect


Look at all the parts in bold Carefree, I'm shocked.

Emaprince:
wtf
Cooger,you made a lot sense today!!!

The highest bidder?..not even the one she loves..

freshdude2:

1. To my family and immediate community, yes. I'm working on getting to the state then national level.

2. Change your circle of friends.

3. Nope, men are fair creatures we are also creatures of habit. If a man sees good work he acknowledges it and expects more good work, if he sees shitty production he remembers that as well and comes to expect from source. Problem is women majorly produce shittiness. Only a few women are truly competent and we respect them for that. Notable among your ilk: Margaret Thatcher, Dora Akunyili, two woemn who didn't need feminism.

coogar:


that's the truth our naija sisters can't process. they want to eat their cake & have it. on one thread, they are claiming feminism - on another thread, they want chivalry and asking where the real men are...

freshdude2:

1. Value, ratio, proportion.
2. We are the vanguards of society. Every man is/should be the lord of his home. When in the home gender roles should, for the sake of order and sanity, be adhered to. Aggression gives an edge in competition. No man on earth apportioned testoterone and oestrogen in the proportion that exists today. We understood the game and played it to perfection. If you're ever opportuned to meet Mother Nature let her know how you feel about this injustice.

3. We respect it and value it even and understand that it's important for a healthy, functional society. Male privilege is what it is because of male responsibility. If more women can take on these responsibilities I assure you they'd be given as much respect as men, haven't you heard of women with chieftaincy titles? However, when women want these privileges without the responsibilities you see such phenomena as nairaland being inundated with gender equality and feminism threads.


4. Speak for yourself. I respect my mothers and grandmothers. They were strong women.