Patchesagain:


electronically no one is anywhere near the US and NATO

Henry120:


They observed a fighter under-development, and still some how couldn't help themselves but write something negative about it.

Let go buy the basis that the J-31 is an F-35 clone, it's widely alleged the blue-print was downloaded/hacked from the U.S DoD.

It simply means the fighter would perform just as good as the F-35. This is the fact.

Besides, all the noise about copying, when NATO nations continually copy and spy on each other.

The chinese are the world's 4th largest defence exporter, and the world's 2nd largest defence spender.

The assessments of the reporter are again based on a pre- conceived notion.

Henry120:


Have you had the opportunity to asses all of them?

Patchesagain:


henry it wont perform the same if it does not have the same powerplant

the chinese are using engines designed for the Mig-29

Also, China is one of the biggest defence spenders because it has the biggest army

It is one of the biggest sellers because it sells cheap sh1t.

None of their tech compares to what NATO has. They have no advantages in any feilds at all.

Patchesagain:


Dude, they havent even caught up to the F-22 yet. Russian PAK-FA is the nearest, and that is still a pipe dream.

Unless the Chinese jump 10 years worth of development, they will still be behind.

Henry120:


They aren't using engines designed for the MIG-29.

If I steal your course-work, i'm going to be graded same as you by the professor. This is the fact.

Instead of the patriot, the turks went for the HQ-9, so much for been cheap.

Turkey, a country with one of the best militaries in NATO.

They spend 100+ billion on their military, it has nothing to do with been the largest.

Henry120:


These assessments are based on what grounds exactly?

EVarn:
the nigerian army reclaims mubi ! ! ! !
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30043867

mzilakazi:



Congrats, but we don't know how long will it last though.

Henry120:
Chinese J-31

This is a powerful fighter. I wonder how it stacks against the F-35 or the Rafale.


#excuse the derailment.

mzilakazi:
Civilians fight better than military. They recaptured mubi and military claim the glory.




http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/171106-local-vigilante-recapture-mubi-drive-boko-haram-out.html

EVarn:
nonsense talk,what weapons do civilians and hunters have to dislodge an high calibre and heavily armed terrorist group?.when trained military personnels with highly sophistated weapons are being kept on their toes.love,i urge you to think,think lest you blunder.

mzilakazi:
Civilians fight better than military. They recaptured mubi and military claim the glory.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/171106-local-vigilante-recapture-mubi-drive-boko-haram-out.html

agaugust:
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[size=16pt]Nigerian army wipes Boko Haram out of Mubi.....

Shame to all South Africans

Nigerian military develops new COIN strategy to teach the whole world

ARMY + CIVILIANS WITHOUT UNIFORMS to deceive and confuse Boko Haram

Very soon Israel and America/NATO will be training under Nigerian army to learn our specially and intelligently developed 2014 COIN tactics

http://www.punchng.com/news/soldiers-hunters-recapture-mubi/

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A combined team of local hunters, civilian JTF and the Nigerian soldiers on Wednesday night launched a fierce battle against Boko Haram insurgents and recaptured Mubi and its environ, which had earlier fell into the hands of the sect.

Reports from Mubi also indicated that five Nigerian Armoured Personnel Carriers, seized by the dreaded Islamists in the area, were recovered when the insurgents fled the town.

A source in Mubi indicated that there were jubilation as people were seen trooping out to show solidarity with the local hunters and the civilian JTF.

No fewer than 100 Boko Haram members were said to have been either killed or injured by the hunters.

The source further disclosed that the 234 Army Battalion as well as other security formations in the area, which fell into the hands of the insurgents, had been recovered and the soldiers were seen trooping in and out of the barracks and taking strategic positions.

Our correspondent learnt that all the flags hoisted by the insurgents in some government quarters were destroyed and replaced by the Nigerian flags while the Emir’s palace converted to the sect’s “Madinatul Islam” has now been taken over by the Nigerian team.

Other sources said the development had given the people hope that the insurgents would be completely chased out of Mubi, Michika, and Madagali. All these council areas had fallen into the hands of insurgents.

Adamawa State Governor Bala James Ngillari said in Yola on Thursday that the insurgents had been flushed out of Mubi. He said the government thanked those who risked their lives to confront the insurgents.

“This is time for all of us to rejoice as the success recorded in the fight against Boko Haram insurgents is the handwork of God,” he said
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agaugust:
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[size=16pt]Nigerian army wipes Boko Haram out of Mubi.....

Shame to all South Africans

Nigerian military develops new COIN strategy to teach the whole world

ARMY + CIVILIANS WITHOUT UNIFORMS to deceive and confuse Boko Haram

Very soon Israel and America/NATO will be training under Nigerian army to learn our specially and intelligently developed 2014 COIN tactics

http://www.punchng.com/news/soldiers-hunters-recapture-mubi/

[/size]

.

A combined team of local hunters, civilian JTF and the Nigerian soldiers on Wednesday night launched a fierce battle against Boko Haram insurgents and recaptured Mubi and its environ, which had earlier fell into the hands of the sect.

Reports from Mubi also indicated that five Nigerian Armoured Personnel Carriers, seized by the dreaded Islamists in the area, were recovered when the insurgents fled the town.

A source in Mubi indicated that there were jubilation as people were seen trooping out to show solidarity with the local hunters and the civilian JTF.

No fewer than 100 Boko Haram members were said to have been either killed or injured by the hunters.

The source further disclosed that the 234 Army Battalion as well as other security formations in the area, which fell into the hands of the insurgents, had been recovered and the soldiers were seen trooping in and out of the barracks and taking strategic positions.

Our correspondent learnt that all the flags hoisted by the insurgents in some government quarters were destroyed and replaced by the Nigerian flags while the Emir’s palace converted to the sect’s “Madinatul Islam” has now been taken over by the Nigerian team.

Other sources said the development had given the people hope that the insurgents would be completely chased out of Mubi, Michika, and Madagali. All these council areas had fallen into the hands of insurgents.

Adamawa State Governor Bala James Ngillari said in Yola on Thursday that the insurgents had been flushed out of Mubi. He said the government thanked those who risked their lives to confront the insurgents.

“This is time for all of us to rejoice as the success recorded in the fight against Boko Haram insurgents is the handwork of God,” he said
.

agaugust:
.

[size=16pt]Nigerian army wipes Boko Haram out of Mubi.....

Shame to all South Africans

Nigerian military develops new COIN strategy to teach the whole world

ARMY + CIVILIANS WITHOUT UNIFORMS to deceive and confuse Boko Haram

Very soon Israel and America/NATO will be training under Nigerian army to learn our specially and intelligently developed 2014 COIN tactics

http://www.punchng.com/news/soldiers-hunters-recapture-mubi/

[/size]

.

A combined team of local hunters, civilian JTF and the Nigerian soldiers on Wednesday night launched a fierce battle against Boko Haram insurgents and recaptured Mubi and its environ, which had earlier fell into the hands of the sect.

Reports from Mubi also indicated that five Nigerian Armoured Personnel Carriers, seized by the dreaded Islamists in the area, were recovered when the insurgents fled the town.

A source in Mubi indicated that there were jubilation as people were seen trooping out to show solidarity with the local hunters and the civilian JTF.

No fewer than 100 Boko Haram members were said to have been either killed or injured by the hunters.

The source further disclosed that the 234 Army Battalion as well as other security formations in the area, which fell into the hands of the insurgents, had been recovered and the soldiers were seen trooping in and out of the barracks and taking strategic positions.

Our correspondent learnt that all the flags hoisted by the insurgents in some government quarters were destroyed and replaced by the Nigerian flags while the Emir’s palace converted to the sect’s “Madinatul Islam” has now been taken over by the Nigerian team.

Other sources said the development had given the people hope that the insurgents would be completely chased out of Mubi, Michika, and Madagali. All these council areas had fallen into the hands of insurgents.

Adamawa State Governor Bala James Ngillari said in Yola on Thursday that the insurgents had been flushed out of Mubi. He said the government thanked those who risked their lives to confront the insurgents.

“This is time for all of us to rejoice as the success recorded in the fight against Boko Haram insurgents is the handwork of God,” he said
.

EVarn:
China unveils new sophisticated fighter jet
http://m.ibnlive.com/news/china-unveils-sophisticated-j31-stealth-fighter-aircraft/512443-2.html
china unveil a new stealth fighter jet that was created to rival the american F-35 fighter jet.though no detail has been revealed to the public,but it was learnt that this new creation is poised attract countries that have been cut off from america arm sales{/inserted:nigeria},and steal the limelight from the F-35 jet.
communism be damned,there should be a shift of alliance in the nigerian government.

Patchesagain:


Everything I have read on the topic

Centrifude:


Interesting question, I think the F-35 and Rafale are way better, don't forget that the j-31 is still a prototype, and it was basically built on the blue prints on the F-35.

The j-31 is much more agile than J-20, I think its because of the "F-35 design it performs very well like the F-35 that's why it looks like its in the same class or maybe even, but I highly doubt that what's inside the J-20 in anywhere near what's inside th F-35

But you gotta hand it to them, the Chinese are really good at reproducing things, the way that thing moves, I honestly thought it was an F-35.

Henry120:


Which is grossly under-stated, biased and in-complete.

You won't know what low-quality is, even if it's staring you in the face.

You, like everyone else, knows zilch about the J-31.

Henry120:


If the J-31 was built on the blue-print of the F-35, it would perform just as good as the F-35.

patches689:

It's a junk copie with practically none of the capabilities
Just like their new ATGM is a javelin copy
Chinese are well behind the west
They produce cheap low quality weapons systems

Patchesagain:


Different engines buddy, it uses the Guizhou WS-13 which is a copy of the Klimov RD-33 which was designed for the Mig-29

Hence, different performance.

Hence, the observation that it requires afterburners to perform the most basic maneuvers.