Centrifude:

I disagree dude, and to begin with it is a fact that the J-31 is a copy of the F-35 *with different engines*, which I believe the reason for copying it was because the Chinese wanted to test the performance of this design for themselves. Even though the J-31 maybe a copy of the F-35 It won't "perform just as good as the F-35" its very,very hard to maximise a design you didn't create yourself especially when there's no Technology Transfer between the two Countries, the person making the copy doesn't have access to the unique and rare components that make the original product so effect and you might not even have a full understanding of the design, its no different from people who make fake Nike shoes, the shoe may feel and look like the real thing but its not, it may come close but it won't perform as good.

What are you people even talking about

You claim the J-31 is a copy of the F-35, and the chinese hacked into and stole the "blue-prints" from the U.S DoD.

"A blueprint is a reproduction of a technical drawing, documenting an architecture or an engineering design, using a contact print process on light-sensitive sheets."

Now you turn around and claim, it won't work because of some fantasy rare components. Did you miss the part where the chinese stole the data from the americans?

The J-31 would perform just as good as the F-35, this is a fact. The J-31 is completely based on the F-35, there is absolutely no difference between them both.

Henry120:


What are you people even talking about

You claim the J-31 is a copy of the F-35, and the chinese hacked into and stole the "blue-prints" from the U.S DoD.

"A blueprint is a reproduction of a technical drawing, documenting an architecture or an engineering design, using a contact print process on light-sensitive sheets."

Now you turn around and claim, it won't work because of some fantasy rare components. Did you miss the part where the chinese stole the data from the americans?

The J-31 would perform just as good as the F-35, this is a fact. The J-31 is completely based on the F-35, there is absolutely no difference between them both.

Except the engines

And it is not a clone - it is a copy

patches689:


Except the engines

Now, you compare the engines.

The J-31 engines are still under-development, however, let us see how they compare against the F-35, Eurofighter typhoon and the Rafale.

It uses the RD 93, not the RD 33.

Again the chinese are looking to replace the twin RD 93 engines

However, like with other advanced aircraft developments in China, the J-31/FC-31 programme is hamstrung by the need to import most of its high-performance jet engines from Russian suppliers. The country has expressed interest in a number of systems from Russia, including the Saturn/Lyulka 117S engine that powers the latest Sukhoi Su-35 as well as the PAK-FA/T-50 next-generation aircraft programme.


According to Janes.

patches689:


So you mean to tell me that despite you guys saying you are beating Boko haram

They have now extended their arsenal to include tanks? Really??

This artical is utter propaganda.

And even it cannot hide the incompetence and utter inadequacy of the Nigerian military

empty post.

agaugust:
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indeed

Henry120:

ys Sanusi misled the Nation
Advise President Jonathan to submit Supplementary Budget on Subsidy extras
After months of painstaking perusal of volumes of documents and presentations made before it by all relevant stakeholders, the Senate Committee on Finance which was mandated to investigate the allegation of non-remittance of $49.8 billion to the Federation Account by the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, on Wednesday laid its report before the Senate at plenary
The former Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, Mallam Sanusi Lamido Sanusi through a letter to the President alleged that the sum was missing from the Federation Account between January 2012 to July 2013. However the 73 page report of the Senator Markafi led Committee which was exclusively obtained Per Second News has cleared the Corporation of any missing or unremitted 49.8billion as alleged by the former CBN governor.

*laughs*,that dude is a clone,always shifting the goalpost.

Henry120:


What are you people even talking about

You claim the J-31 is a copy of the F-35, and the chinese hacked into and stole the "blue-prints" from the U.S DoD.

"A blueprint is a reproduction of a technical drawing, documenting an architecture or an engineering design, using a contact print process on light-sensitive sheets."

Now you turn around and claim, it won't work because of some fantasy rare components. Did you miss the part where the chinese stole the data from the americans?

The J-31 would perform just as good as the F-35, this is a fact. The J-31 is completely based on the F-35, there is absolutely no difference between them both.

Dude I know exactly what a BluePrint is, its a fact they tried to copy it.
You keep on saying that its completely based on the F-35 but its not a copy, which is completely contradictory.

Yes they stole data but you have to be insane to believe that the U.S would keep all their sensitive data in one Data Base, some are kept at the Factories.

And well dude your first statement was you "Wonder how the J-31 would stack up against the F-35 and Rafael"
But since no one knows the actual specs of the J-31 and its still the prototype the only way a person could answer you question was to speculate, and give our opinions based on nothing else but visual analysis, so if we say the J-31 is sh*t you can't really say we're wrong because you don't know the actual specs either

Henry120:


What are you people even talking about

You claim the J-31 is a copy of the F-35, and the chinese hacked into and stole the "blue-prints" from the U.S DoD.

"A blueprint is a reproduction of a technical drawing, documenting an architecture or an engineering design, using a contact print process on light-sensitive sheets."

Now you turn around and claim, it won't work because of some fantasy rare components. Did you miss the part where the chinese stole the data from the americans?

The J-31 would perform just as good as the F-35, this is a fact. The J-31 is completely based on the F-35, there is absolutely no difference between them both.

Henry, admit it - you love Chinese fakes.

Centrifude:


Dude I know exactly what a BluePrint is, its a fact they tried to copy it.
You keep on saying that its completely based on the F-35 but its not a copy, which is completely contradictory.

Yes they stole data but you have to be insane to believe that the U.S would keep all their sensitive data in one Data Base, some are kept at the Factories.

And well dude your first statement was you "Wonder how the J-31 would stack up against the F-35 and Rafael"
But since no one knows the actual specs of the J-31 and its still the prototype the only way a person could answer you question was to speculate, and give our opinions based on nothing else but visual analysis, so if we say the J-31 is sh*t you can't really say we're wrong because you don't know the actual specs either

#wrecked

10/10 post

This thread needs more F-35

EVarn:
*laughs*,that dude is a clone,always shifting the goalpost.

Centrifude:


Dude I know exactly what a BluePrint is, its a fact they tried to copy it.
You keep on saying that its completely based on the F-35 but its not a copy, which is completely contradictory.

Yes they stole data but you have to be insane to believe that the U.S would keep all their sensitive data in one Data Base, some are kept at the Factories.

And well dude your first statement was you "Wonder how the J-31 would stack up against the F-35 and Rafael"
But since no one knows the actual specs of the J-31 and its still the prototype the only way a person could answer you question was to speculate, and give our opinions based on nothing else but visual analysis, so if we say the J-31 is sh*t you can't really say we're wrong because you don't know the actual specs either

So you have proof the chinese didn't steal specs from the other points where they are stored?

#the chinese are alleged to have also hacked into lockheed martin, Boeing and other top U.S aerospace and defence companies.


You cannot claim an Aircraft that is designed using "all" the specs of the F-35 is sh1t.

No, you do not know what a blueprint is.

If the J-31 is shiit, the F-35 is also shiit.

This is the fact.

ActivateKruger:


Henry, admit it - you love Chinese fakes.

I love the J-10, HQ-9.

Since you asked.

-western special forces gear
- Rifle = CTAR-21, HK-416, AK 105, FN F2000, CZ-805 Bren.

- Panhard special forces vehicle.
- T-90A and the Leopard 2A
- Rafale multi-role fighter
- VBCI

I'm really interested in ships or subs.

Patchesagain:


#wrecked

10/10 post

Nothing wrecked. He only made a mockery of his post.

It seems the big push is underway

Henry120:

i beg your pardon,the word i wanted to type was 'clown'

EVarn:
i beg your pardon,the word i wanted to type was 'clown'

No need to. Patches689 knows he's a "clown".

Henry120:


No need to. Patches689 knows he's a "clown".

The irony of this post

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-moves-to-attack-sambisa/194116/

in a spectacular turn of events,the nigerian military is moving to launch a massive blitz on sambisa forest-the unofficial headquaters of boko haram.it was reported that convoys of hundreds of APCs and military tanks were seen in borno moving towards the direction of the dreaded sambisa forest,carrying thousands of troops and military equippment.the convoy movement was said to have caused a stand-still traffick in borno for hours.though military operatives failed to comment on the new development,it was reported that several military aircrafts were already ready for deployment from their enclaves,"the NA has moved to conduct a air and land assault on sambisa forest,we do not care what amnesty international and political parties say,we will mobilize all force to crush boko haram.it doesnt matter if you are suspected to harbor terrorists or sponsor them,if caught,you'll be gone in minutes" an official said.

troops battle for chibok and gwoza ! ! ! !
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it was reported that nigerian troops are currently battling boko haram insurgents in a counter-attack in the two towns of chibok and gwoza in borno state.both towns were reported captured by boko haram,though gwoza have been in the terrorists grip for over 5 months now.recently the NA has begun applying a new and dynamic strategy of using military trained and armed civilian volunteers to penetrate terrorist captured territories and confuse them with a spontaneous assault,thereby taking the terrorists unawares and paving the way for heavily armed troops to recapture the territories and protect the initial civilian volunteers sent in.this unique strategy that was developed and tested by the nigerian armed forces,has proved to be extraordinarily effective,as it was used in recapturing maiha,mubi and vimtim in mere hours.

fydence:
It seems the big push is underway

it has already begun brov,it has begun.

EVarn:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-moves-to-attack-sambisa/194116/

in a spectacular turn of events,the nigerian military is moving to launch a massive blitz on sambisa forest-the unofficial headquaters of boko haram.it was reported that convoys of hundreds of APCs and military tanks were seen in borno moving towards the direction of the dreaded sambisa forest,carrying thousands of troops and military equippment.the convoy movement was said to have caused a stand-still traffick in borno for hours.though military operatives failed to comment on the new development,it was reported that several military aircrafts were already ready for deployment from their enclaves,"the NA has moved to conduct a air and land assault on sambisa forest, we do not care what amnesty international and political parties say,we will mobilize all force to crush boko haram.it doesnt matter if you are suspected to harbor terrorists or sponsor them,if caught,you'll be gone in minutes" an official said.

The Nigerian army admits to genocide and war crimes.

Nice

Patchesagain:


The Nigerian army admits to genocide and war crimes.

Nice

. it happens in war even developed countries like U.S.A has there's they committed in vetenam, afghan and Iraq e.t.c anybody remember the wikilis saga! its the reality of war talk less of an African country every as skeleton in his cupboard.

Patchesagain:


The Nigerian army admits to genocide and war crimes.

Nice

another empty post.

The Chinese may have copied shapes and stolen 'blueprints' but most forget you also need to have an ability to craft your own super alloys, improve engine thrust, efficiency, torque and so much more. This is the reason why the F35 costs is spiralling out of control.

The Chinese quite alright have managed to piggyback on a successful design (which came after $billion trial and error by the Americans) but their aircraft would always play second fiddle to any design they steal.

EVarn:
it has already begun brov,it has begun.

Godspeed to our gallant warriors... Its about tym!

fydence:
Godspeed to our gallant warriors... Its about tym!

yeah,we should really pray for them.a battlefield isnt a beach party.

EVarn:
indeed brov,he is even building underground bunkers and tunnels!,is he expecting a rhino stampede?,how paranoid and wasteful can someone be?.

LWKMFH

I know we have a badly handled insurgency to deal with in Nigeria, but is anyone else following the insurgency in Egypt?

It's just as bloody as the one in the North-East, just under-reported.

Patchesagain:


The Nigerian army admits to genocide and war crimes.

Nice

You are a Dolt.

stillchris:
LWKMFH

indeed,even gen. sanni abacha who is said to be nigeria's biggest looter,didnt build an underground world,shows how cowardly the SA president is.that big-headed zuma is a big "thief" as mashabela said.

Henry120:
I know we have a badly handled insurgency to deal with in Nigeria, but is anyone else following the insurgency in Egypt?

It's just as bloody as the one in the North-East, just under-reported.

did you see the video those terrorist just released? as in dayum! A whole army FOB was overran with badass weapons carted away.