@ boss chidarlus, Abeg, Is MLS in uniben no longer give pple with scores like 53%, 55%, 58%, 59%, 61% etc. on PUDE & also obtaining ND qualification @ upper credit level from a reputable fed. Poly admission for direct entry candidates? Becoz me no understand how these aforementioned scores were deny admission. Eventhough am yet to see anybody been consider admission ooo! Pls what is d criteria for admission as a direct entry applicant, or are they no longer accepting diploma again?

@ boss originbm., I dey ur side joor excellent job u've done. I myself will devote d next 6 academic section to come out as d best for dis noble course I chosed to praticed. So help me God! Med. Lab. Sc. also has been an important profession in our national health sector becoz d origin of any problem regards to living being on earth can be identify by our men & women in dis field of profession. No matter how d professional conspiracy by d so-called pples dat presume themselves as Oga-at-the-TOP in our Govt. hospitals with their motives to hinder d progress of all other health professions will not work.

Pls, what is ur view about dis Tom & Jerry relationship with our opthalmologist colleagues dat is continously rampart in our health institution when dis pple are alreading parading themselves as primary contact when it comes to vision system to d patient which is illegal according to d ethics of dis field, despite d fact dat OD's refers complicated cases dat involve surgery to them. My question was borne out 4rm one eye doctor dat was granted an interview on tv dat anything concerning eye should be consulted by medical doc which she obviously known dat she wasn't in a position as primary contact & I later confirm dat she was an ophthamologist. Thanks!

originbm:



Haha,my bro,this is just fun and informative...there is no rancour,believe me i actually admire u...maybe one day we'll really meet...
1.2 of the links i gave u are for 2014,including the one for edo state.
2.If u r on conhess 9,then u have been promoted,mls dont start on conhess 9.give me a link that has ever advertised mls on conhess 9.
3.U said optometrists dont consult in private cinics....hahaha....i will advice u to at least read up b4 u write...Optometrists are the only health care professionals(aside of medical doctors and dentists) dat are LEGALLY permitted to diagnose,integrate clinically,prescribe both topical and systemic drugs whether therapeutically or diagnostically,prescribe aids and lenses,and prove the full spectrum of clinical care...do u need a link to optometrist enablement act?
4.Refracting in itself is a specialty.Its one of richest proceedure in eye care....ophthalmologists make the bulk of their cash from refraction....how many ocular surgeries do u think is performed by the average ophthalmologist in a yr?
5.The only proceedure that an optometrist is not permitted to perform in nigeria is surgery.That is the precint of the ophthalmologist just like refaction is the precint of the optometrist.
6.Optometrist refer not only to ophthalmologists when necessary,but to neurologist or pcp...
7.Opticians are better called dispensing optics professionals.They dispense prescriptions written by the optometrist or ophthalmologist.And they are trained to interprete prescriptions and dispense the prescriptions just like a pharmacist dispenses drugs.They dont refract.Only optometrists and ophthalmologists refract,even though ophthalmologists are not very good in it.
8.Have u ever been to an eye clinic?u think in a private eye clinic u can differentiate between the optometrist and ophthalmologist?
9.Ophthalmologist only come in when some serious situations that may require general anaesthesia presents.In many optometry clinics,opthalmologists are only called when surgical services are needed...look up optometric eye clinics...u should.
10.Optometrists are primary eye care practitioners.Find out what it means.
11.Am sorry,wat do u mean by medical lab consulting?do u carry out diagnosis and institute treatment?dont make me laugh....medical rehabilitation comes b4 mls...sorry,but thats the truth....
12.I have told u the reason for the apparent disinterest of optometry in public service..its wat it is...
13.The apparent trouble u guys have is dat u have not seen mega eye clinics...get to abuja,port or Lagos...
14.How can a medical lab scientist consult when he is not legally permitted to open a clinic?do u now consult in a lab?This is wonderful...Optometrists own eye clinics,a medical lab scientist cannot own a clinic,and a lab is not meant for consultation,or do u buy cards for lab test now?
15.Optometry ,has always been an independent profession...they hv not shown any willingness to enter into public service,but things are starting to change now...as some are now interested in public service...they hv achieved more than any other health care professions in areas in which they are genuinely interested...
17.It seems like u didnt understand noa's comment....Optometrists are not begging to be primary eye care professionals.They are already primary eye care practitioners legally.They are complaining that the rivalry btw them and ophthalmologist is preventing them from playing their roles in TEACHING HOSPITALS.In other settings they perform their functions of primary eye care practitioner,both in private and state hospitals...Ophthalmologists dont want to start sharing consulting powers with them in the teaching hospitals.
18.Even our student doctors go on outreach in their 500 level to communities where they treat ocular disorders of both refractive and pathological origin...
so....
19.My brother we r just gisting...we are all in the same game...but sha check out facts and no dey make me repeat points i hv already made...
we aint fighting,we just gisting...in fact take one bottle of star,i go pay.....

good evening sir...I don wait for that bottle of star tire(e be like say u be 419ner oooo)ok u win for the argument for here(DE trend) make we continue part 2 for trend whay I believe ur go open kukuma invite me(optometry vs mls)...but shun rivalry and for d love of informing the public.mls entry salary is currently conhess 9(but yet to be implemented across nigeria,currently in some FMC(s) and all teaching hospitals) and as an intern I was paid conhess 8 step 2(jokes or lies apart) and believe me when I say mls is a very interesting profession and also lucrative...as for optometry, I believe its a very nice profession too but like seriously,u guys need to step up your game in d public sector and put in serious minded persons to head and take d profession to d next level for d sake of fresh graduates who can't afford to open up dia private clinic#handshake#thank u sir for your lecture on d diff b/w optometrist and ophthamologist

Samlo88:
@ boss chidarlus, Abeg, Is MLS in uniben no longer give pple with scores like 53%, 55%, 58%, 59%, 61% etc. on PUDE & also obtaining ND qualification @ upper credit level from a reputable fed. Poly admission for direct entry candidates? Becoz me no understand how these aforementioned scores were deny admission. Eventhough am yet to see anybody been consider admission ooo! Pls what is d criteria for admission as a direct entry applicant, or are they no longer accepting diploma again?

gud morning sir...as you know, admission into any department via PUDE or PUTME is regulated by school senate based on d general performances of people who sat for the exam and I don't think dat individual departments have any say in who d schools awards admission to(d senate decides) so the fact that d above mentioned scores didn't fetch any of ur friends admission into mls means that dia are oda people who scored above does scores....and I also fink d prefer to take those with degree rather dan those with diploma(for instance let assume that two people scored 61 but one have a diploma result and d oda a degree result,d will definitely take d person wit degree result) anoda fin u ought to consider is wada if those that have d above mentioned scores are either in uniben's catchment area or among d education least developed states..have a love friday sir

chidarlus:
gud morning sir...as you know, admission into any department via PUDE or PUTME is regulated by school senate based on d general performances of people who sat for the exam and I don't think dat individual departments have any say in who d schools awards admission to(d senate decides) so the fact that d above mentioned scores didn't fetch any of ur friends admission into mls means that dia are oda people who scored above does scores....and I also fink d prefer to take those with degree rather dan those with diploma(for instance let assume that two people scored 61 but one have a diploma result and d oda a degree result,d will definitely take d person wit degree result) anoda fin u ought to consider is wada if those that have d above mentioned scores are either in uniben's catchment area or among d education least developed states..have a love friday sir

Tanx 4 d clarification. Some are 4rm catchment area, the one with 53% is 4rm Akwa Ibom, the one with 55% is from Edo, except the one with 58% is from Anambra which is not 4rm d catchment. But rejectin them becoz they are Diploma holders, e get as e be o! Have a pleasant wkend!

Samlo88:
Tanx 4 d clarification. Some are 4rm catchment area, the one with 53% is 4rm Akwa Ibom, the one with 55% is from Edo, except the one with 58% is from Anambra which is not 4rm d catchment. But rejectin them becoz they are Diploma holders, e get as e be o! Have a pleasant wkend!

its most likely dat d were not offered admission because people (those admitted) scored higher....have a wonderful wEekend too sir

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Samlo88:
@ boss originbm., I dey ur side joor excellent job u've done. I myself will devote d next 6 academic section to come out as d best for dis noble course I chosed to praticed. So help me God! Med. Lab. Sc. also has been an important profession in our national health sector becoz d origin of any problem regards to living being on earth can be identify by our men & women in dis field of profession. No matter how d professional conspiracy by d so-called pples dat presume themselves as Oga-at-the-TOP in our Govt. hospitals with their motives to hinder d progress of all other health professions will not work.

Pls, what is ur view about dis Tom & Jerry relationship with our opthalmologist colleagues dat is continously rampart in our health institution when dis pple are alreading parading themselves as primary contact when it comes to vision system to d patient which is illegal according to d ethics of dis field, despite d fact dat OD's refers complicated cases dat involve surgery to them. My question was borne out 4rm one eye doctor dat was granted an interview on tv dat anything concerning eye should be consulted by medical doc which she obviously known dat she wasn't in a position as primary contact & I later confirm dat she was an ophthamologist. Thanks!

The issue my brother is dat whoever is in control of primary eye care is the first point of entry in the eye care profession.This means that the person is d first person the patient will meet if he or she has eye problems.He now can refer to the appropriate practitioner if the case is beyond his competence.That person is the optometrist.The optometrist should now refer to the opthalmologist if there is surgical care or specialised care,or refer to the general practitioner if a systemic disease is diagnosed.But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money...so they want to be primary care provider instead of the tertiary care providers that they are meant to be.They want to collect money for refraction also.Because the fact is that refraction-based proceedures are the money making machine of eye care.
They are asking the public to bypass the optometrist who is an eye doctor and go to a general medical practitioner who knows next to nothing about the eyes.This is because the medical doctor will refer the patients to them since they are in the same association,nma.Since the general practitioner knows next to nothing about eye care practice,they will refer even the most simple proceedures to the ophthalmologist thereby making the ophthalmologist richer.But the optometrist knows knows most of the things an ophthalmologist knows and is in a position to diagnose,treat and refer.And so takes money off the table of the ophthalmologists,so they hate optometrists.Optometrists fight for eye care rights with them.So its not a surprise if she comes on air to say that.
During the world sight day,optometrists gave a talk show and told the public that every eye problem should be brought to the optometrist who is the primary eye doctor.The optometrist will now refer if the need be.
Which is how it should be....With the exception of the brain,the eye is the most complex organ in the human body and it is not just the anatomy of the eye that makes it so,but the interplay between eye and light energy to bring about vision.That's one of the most complex sciences to learn.And of course the eye is an extension of the brain...
So how can a general practitioner who did eye only as a special sense course in their final yr even get to touch a patient with eye problem,not to talk of diagnosing and refering.
Any general practitioner doing that should actually be arrested.The early optometrists who did bsc optometry has no right to diagnose,or take clinical decision even after 4 yrs in the course how much less general medical practitioners.
The ophthalmologist is asking the public to bypass the optometrist and consult with a quack.Of course any general practitioner dabbling into eye care whether as a front for the ophthalmologists or as a real practitioner is practising quackery,just like an ophthalmologist who wants to perform neurosurgery is a quack.That nma states otherwise is immaterial.....my brother politics will be d doom of healthcare in nigeria...

thank you sir

Samlo88:
@ boss originbm., I dey ur side joor excellent job u've done. I myself will devote d next 6 academic section to come out as d best for dis noble course I chosed to praticed. So help me God! Med. Lab. Sc. also has been an important profession in our national health sector becoz d origin of any problem regards to living being on earth can be identify by our men & women in dis field of profession. No matter how d professional conspiracy by d so-called pples dat presume themselves as Oga-at-the-TOP in our Govt. hospitals with their motives to hinder d progress of all other health professions will not work.

Pls, what is ur view about dis Tom & Jerry relationship with our opthalmologist colleagues dat is continously rampart in our health institution when dis pple are alreading parading themselves as primary contact when it comes to vision system to d patient which is illegal according to d ethics of dis field, despite d fact dat OD's refers complicated cases dat involve surgery to them. My question was borne out 4rm one eye doctor dat was granted an interview on tv dat anything concerning eye should be consulted by medical doc which she obviously known dat she wasn't in a position as primary contact & I later confirm dat she was an ophthamologist. Thanks!

The issue my brother is dat whoever is in control of primary eye care is the first point of entry in the eye care profession.This means that the person is d first person the patient will meet if he or she has eye problems.He now can refer to the appropriate practitioner if the case is beyond his competence.That person is the optometrist.The optometrist should now refer to the opthalmologist if there is surgical care or specialised care,or refer to the general practitioner if a systemic disease is diagnosed.But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money...so they want to be primary care provided instead of the tertiary care providers that they are meant to be.They want to collect money for refraction also.Because the fact is that refraction-based proceedures are the money making machine of eye care.
They are asking the public to bypass the optometrist who is an eye doctor and go to a general medical practitioner who knows next to nothing about the eyes.This is because the medical doctor will refer the patients to them since they are in the same association,nma.Since the general practitioner knows next to nothing about eye care practice,they will refer even the most simple proceedures to the ophthalmologist thereby making the ophthalmologist richer.But the optometrist knows knows most of the things an ophthalmologist knows and is in a position to diagnose,treat and refer.And so takes money off the table of the ophthalmologists,so they hate optometrists.Optometrists fight for eye care rights with them.So its not a surprise if she comes on air to say that.
During the world sight day,optometrists gave a talk show and told the public that every eye problem should be brought to the optometrist who is the primary eye doctor.The optometrist will now refer if the need be.
Which is how it should be....With the exception of the brain,the eye is the most complex organ in the human body and it is not just the anatomy of the eye that makes it so,but the interplay between eye and light energy to bring about vision.That's one of the most complex sciences to learn.And of course the eye is an extension of the brain...
So how can a general practitioner who did eye only as a special sense course in their final yr even get to touch a patient with eye problem,not to talk of diagnosing and refering.
Any general practitioner doing that should actually be arrested.The early optometrists who did bsc optometry has no right to diagnose,or take clinical decision even after 4 yrs in the course how much less general medical practitioners.
The ophthalmologist is asking the public to bypass the optometrist and consult with a quack.Of course any general practitioner dabbling into eye care whether as a front for the ophthalmologists or as a real practitioner is practising quackery,just like an ophthalmologist who wants to perform neurosurgery is a quack.That nma states otherwise is immaterial.....my brother politics will be d doom of healthcare in nigeria...

Pls I need urgent response. The Schl I wrote my Neco due to some issues has shut down, how do I get my Certificate or statement of result cause all I hv with me is just the print out from their website and my Neco scratch card. I jear we will be needing the Certificate or statement of result come Clearance day.

originbm:


The issue my brother is dat whoever is in control of primary eye care is the first point of entry in the eye care profession.This means that the person is d first person the patient will meet if he or she has eye problems.He now can refer to the appropriate practitioner if the case is beyond his competence.That person is the optometrist.The optometrist should now refer to the opthalmologist if there is surgical care or specialised care,or refer to the general practitioner if a systemic disease is diagnosed.But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money...so they want to be primary care provided instead of the tertiary care providers that they are meant to be.They want to collect money for refraction also.Because the fact is that refraction-based proceedures are the money making machine of eye care.
They are asking the public to bypass the optometrist who is an eye doctor and go to a general medical practitioner who knows next to nothing about the eyes.This is because the medical doctor will refer the patients to them since they are in the same association,nma.Since the general practitioner knows next to nothing about eye care practice,they will refer even the most simple proceedures to the ophthalmologist thereby making the ophthalmologist richer.But the optometrist knows knows most of the things an ophthalmologist knows and is in a position to diagnose,treat and refer.And so takes money off the table of the ophthalmologists,so they hate optometrists.Optometrists fight for eye care rights with them.So its not a surprise if she comes on air to say that.
During the world sight day,optometrists gave a talk show and told the public that every eye problem should be brought to the optometrist who is the primary eye doctor.The optometrist will now refer if the need be.
Which is how it should be....With the exception of the brain,the eye is the most complex organ in the human body and it is not just the anatomy of the eye that makes it so,but the interplay between eye and light energy to bring about vision.That's one of the most complex sciences to learn.And of course the eye is an extension of the brain...
So how can a general practitioner who did eye only as a special sense course in their final yr even get to touch a patient with eye problem,not to talk of diagnosing and refering.
Any general practitioner doing that should actually be arrested.The early optometrists who did bsc optometry has no right to diagnose,or take clinical decision even after 4 yrs in the course how much less general medical practitioners.
The ophthalmologist is asking the public to bypass the optometrist and consult with a quack.Of course any general practitioner dabbling into eye care whether as a front for the ophthalmologists or as a real practitioner is practising quackery,just like an ophthalmologist who wants to perform neurosurgery is a quack.That nma states otherwise is immaterial.....my brother politics will be d doom of healthcare in nigeria...

"But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money..." hmmm dis is serious bro! But don't u see dat dis kind of shoddy malpractise profession been exhibited by dis our estrange colleagues is caused by d lacklustre of our NOA from their own part? Becoz according to what bro chidarlus pointed out about d 25years of underperforming of existence of dis body maybe have contributed immensely to dis daylight robbery. What's bro chidar. was saying is bitter truth. We only hear them when it's time for any world anniversary concerning sight & etc is fast approaching, and after dat no any meaningful show again. They will just went into silence ghost mode. Have a nice weekend!

muhdy:
Pls I need urgent response. The Schl I wrote my Neco due to some issues has shut down, how do I get my Certificate or statement of result cause all I hv with me is just the print out from their website and my Neco scratch card. I jear we will be needing the Certificate or statement of result come Clearance day.

go to the nearest neco oFfice and explain to 'em(it will only cost u moni,buh it can b done

Bluedove:
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Ya

Samlo88:
"But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money..." hmmm dis is serious bro! But don't u see dat dis kind of shoddy malpractise profession been exhibited by dis our estrange colleagues is caused by d lacklustre of our NOA from their own part? Becoz according to what bro chidarlus pointed out about d 25years of underperforming of existence of dis body maybe have contributed immensely to dis daylight robbery. What's bro chidar. was saying is bitter truth. We only hear them when it's time for any world anniversary concerning sight & etc is fast approaching, and after dat no any meaningful show again. They will just went into silence ghost mode. Have a nice weekend!

I believe that d issue wia by an ophthalmologist does the job of an optometrist is not the first neither will it be d only time you hear of professionals not sticking to dia scheme of service /specialisation....for instance in the medical laboratories you see pathologists(mbbs specialised in pathology) /resident pathologist(mbbs doing residency in pathology) fighting mls so as to carry out laboratory procedures.....when you visit teaching hospitals,you see resident gynaecologist/gynaecologist performing midwifery....some times u see an optometrist conducting eye surgery or a mls consulting in his/her private clinic, or a pharmacist conducting D and C(abortion)I fink a lil percentage of blame should go to governing bodies of individual health professions(NOA,MLSCN,NMA etc) and a larger percentage of the blame should go to the 'I DON'T GIVE A F**K' attitude of the FEDERAL GOVT in matters concerning the HEALTH sector... Professional SPECIALIZATION in Nigeria is a term we only see in books definitely not in practise. how many times have you heard of malpractice suits(abi FG no d see hw western country dem health sector de?) in Nigeria? ...y FG go even bother themselves nko?...when d get small headache,dem go enter private jet go yankee(I just pray say one day,one go enter one of the hospitals for surgery and NEPA go take lite and d lister no go gree start because diesel finish for it...lol)

Hello, does anyone knows how much is being paid as a departmental & Faculty Dues?

Samlo88:
"But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money..." hmmm dis is serious bro! But don't u see dat dis kind of shoddy malpractise profession been exhibited by dis our estrange colleagues is caused by d lacklustre of our NOA from their own part? Becoz according to what bro chidarlus pointed out about d 25years of underperforming of existence of dis body maybe have contributed immensely to dis daylight robbery. What's bro chidar. was saying is bitter truth. We only hear them when it's time for any world anniversary concerning sight & etc is fast approaching, and after dat no any meaningful show again. They will just went into silence ghost mode. Have a nice weekend!

My brother you are very correct.But then whoever pays the piper dictates the tune.The leading members of NOA are private consultants,consulted even by ophthalmologists for complex refraction problems...So they never realized the need for a strong public service policy until recently.As a matter of fact NOA joined JOHESSU for the first time just last 2 weeks.Many of the Bsc optometrists were content to work as appendages for ophthalmologists in Teaching hospitals and so our history continues to hunt us as ophthalmologist refuse to give up any franchise they have been enjoying before.They cant just wake up and give optometrists a chunk of their income because they upgraded their careers.Granted we may be capable,but freedom is never won by reason...freedom comes through struggle....and when it comes to struggle,medical lab scientists are indisputably the giants of the sector.The optometry profession has a lot to learn from them...I respect them immensely for that....
The optometry profession has to work of the flabs on the body of their association which is as a result of indolence and complacency thru feeding from private practice....
What incentive will the body have to push for improved public practice presence when the leaders have private practice and their primary goal is attracting cheap labour?Wont improved welfare for young doctors be at the detriment of their private practices....
Add this to the insecurity of the bsc optometrists who tried to go for the three years upgrade to doctor but failed after repeated attempts...such people will clutch to any straw thrown to them by ophthalmologists,and they dont care,because the first law is survival...
I know one that works in nnpc in a state in nigeria who is afraid to let doctors extern there because he is afraid they would replace him with one of them...the ophthalmologist would beg him to get externs for the nnpc clinic but the bsc optometrist employed there would outrightly refuse...
So there are many points to the issue....If the bulk of the practitioners in a proffession are private practitioners,and they are the ons who pay the association dues,then the association's policies must be biased in their favour....
But things are changings,younger doctors are coming to the helm of affairs,the need for public practice presence is now being felt keenly...
Nigeria has less than 2600 ODs in the countries,so they are not that much...absorption is not the problem...the policy of the NOA is....but i cant say everything here....like i said things are changing ,and its for the better...
Thank you sir.

Samlo88:
"But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money..." hmmm dis is serious bro! But don't u see dat dis kind of shoddy malpractise profession been exhibited by dis our estrange colleagues is caused by d lacklustre of our NOA from their own part? Becoz according to what bro chidarlus pointed out about d 25years of underperforming of existence of dis body maybe have contributed immensely to dis daylight robbery. What's bro chidar. was saying is bitter truth. We only hear them when it's time for any world anniversary concerning sight & etc is fast approaching, and after dat no any meaningful show again. They will just went into silence ghost mode. Have a nice weekend!

My brother you are very correct.But then whoever pays the piper dictates the tune.The leading members of NOA are private consultants,consulted even by ophthalmologists for complex refraction problems...So they never realized the need for a strong public service policy until recently.As a matter of fact NOA joined JOHESSU for the first time just last 2 weeks.Many of the Bsc optometrists were content to work as appendages for ophthalmologists in Teaching hospitals and so our past continues to haunt us as ophthalmologist refuse to give up any franchise they have been enjoying before.They cant just wake up and give optometrists a chunk of their income because they upgraded their careers.Granted we may be capable,but freedom is never won by reason...freedom comes through struggle....and when it comes to struggle,medical lab scientists are indisputably the giants of the sector.The optometry profession has a lot to learn from them...I respect them immensely for that....
The optometry profession has to work of the flabs on the body of their association which is as a result of indolence and complacency thru feeding from private practice....
What incentive will the body have to push for improved public practice presence when the leaders have private practice and their primary goal is attracting cheap labour?Wont improved welfare for young doctors be at the detriment of their private practices....
Add this to the insecurity of the bsc optometrists who tried to go for the three years upgrade to doctor but failed after repeated attempts...such people will clutch to any straw thrown to them by ophthalmologists,and they dont care,because the first law is survival...
I know one that works in nnpc in a state in nigeria who is afraid to let doctors extern there because he is afraid they would replace him with one of them...the ophthalmologist would beg him to get externs for the nnpc clinic but the bsc optometrist employed there would outrightly refuse...
So there are many points to the issue....If the bulk of the practitioners in a proffession are private practitioners,and they are the ons who pay the association dues,then the association's policies must be biased in their favour....
But things are changings,younger doctors are coming to the helm of affairs,the need for public practice presence is now being felt keenly...
Nigeria has less than 2600 ODs in the countries,so they are not that much...absorption is not the problem...the policy of the NOA is....but i cant say everything here....like i said things are changing ,and its for the better...
Thank you sir.

Samlo88:
"But then if the ophthalmologists confine themselves to surgical care and specialist care they wont make enough money..." hmmm dis is serious bro! But don't u see dat dis kind of shoddy malpractise profession been exhibited by dis our estrange colleagues is caused by d lacklustre of our NOA from their own part? Becoz according to what bro chidarlus pointed out about d 25years of underperforming of existence of dis body maybe have contributed immensely to dis daylight robbery. What's bro chidar. was saying is bitter truth. We only hear them when it's time for any world anniversary concerning sight & etc is fast approaching, and after dat no any meaningful show again. They will just went into silence ghost mode. Have a nice weekend!

My brother,u doubt when i tell u dat without refraction ophthalmologists wont make half the money they make now?
1.Every body above the age of 45 must wear a prescription lens for at least presbyopia,wen doing near work like reading.
2.Look into a newspaper or magazine and tell me the most popular object aside of clothes....its lenses.
3.Not to talk of myopic,astigmatic,binocular issues....
If not for the presence of quacks in the eye care profession,no specialty would be as lucrative as it is...visit any eye clinic owned by an optometrist or opthalmologist and u would confirm wat i tell you....
4.Wen u start going for outreach,check out for the section with the longest line,its always the eye section....

like i said ,visit ,ask questions,observe....you will confirm wat i say....

Thank you sir.

chidarlus:
I believe that d issue wia by an ophthalmologist does the job of an optometrist is not the first neither will it be d only time you hear of professionals not sticking to dia scheme of service /specialisation....for instance in the medical laboratories you see pathologists(mbbs specialised in pathology) /resident pathologist(mbbs doing residency in pathology) fighting mls so as to carry out laboratory procedures.....when you visit teaching hospitals,you see resident gynaecologist/gynaecologist performing midwifery....some times u see an optometrist conducting eye surgery or a mls consulting in his/her private clinic, or a pharmacist conducting D and C(abortion)I fink a lil percentage of blame should go to governing bodies of individual health professions(NOA,MLSCN,NMA etc) and a larger percentage of the blame should go to the 'I DON'T GIVE A F**K' attitude of the FEDERAL GOVT in matters concerning the HEALTH sector... Professional SPECIALIZATION in Nigeria is a term we only see in books definitely not in practise. how many times have you heard of malpractice suits(abi FG no d see hw western country dem health sector de?) in Nigeria? ...y FG go even bother themselves nko?...when d get small headache,dem go enter private jet go yankee(I just pray say one day,one go enter one of the hospitals for surgery and NEPA go take lite and d lister no go gree start because diesel finish for it...lol)

Hmmm! I think our existing laws (poor implementation to defaulters sreally caused this shotcoming

originbm:



My brother you are very correct.But then whoever pays the piper dictates the tune.The leading members of NOA are private consultants,consulted even by ophthalmologists for complex refraction problems...So they never realized the need for a strong public service policy until recently.As a matter of fact NOA joined JOHESSU for the first time just last 2 weeks.Many of the Bsc optometrists were content to work as appendages for ophthalmologists in Teaching hospitals and so our past continues to haunt us as ophthalmologist refuse to give up any franchise they have been enjoying before.They cant just wake up and give optometrists a chunk of their income because they upgraded their careers.Granted we may be capable,but freedom is never won by reason...freedom comes through struggle....and when it comes to struggle,medical lab scientists are indisputably the giants of the sector.The optometry profession has a lot to learn from them...I respect them immensely for that....
The optometry profession has to work of the flabs on the body of their association which is as a result of indolence and complacency thru feeding from private practice....
What incentive will the body have to push for improved public practice presence when the leaders have private practice and their primary goal is attracting cheap labour?Wont improved welfare for young doctors be at the detriment of their private practices....
Add this to the insecurity of the bsc optometrists who tried to go for the three years upgrade to doctor but failed after repeated attempts...such people will clutch to any straw thrown to them by ophthalmologists,and they dont care,because the first law is survival...
I know one that works in nnpc in a state in nigeria who is afraid to let doctors extern there because he is afraid they would replace him with one of them...the ophthalmologist would beg him to get externs for the nnpc clinic but the bsc optometrist employed there would outrightly refuse...
So there are many points to the issue....If the bulk of the practitioners in a proffession are private practitioners,and they are the ons who pay the association dues,then the association's policies must be biased in their favour....
But things are changings,younger doctors are coming to the helm of affairs,the need for public practice presence is now being felt keenly...
Nigeria has less than 2600 ODs in the countries,so they are not that much...absorption is not the problem...the policy of the NOA is....but i cant say everything here....like i said things are changing ,and its for the better...
Thank you sir.

Nawa ooohh. That means we must put our house in order to put a stop to dis past history that continuously haunting dis profession. I think For those guyz dat volunteer themselves to be an appendage to d Opht. really create misconception to d general puplic by making d archaic OPT as d same as OD's in terms of extra knoledge & practised gather so far in dis field. For instance when Opt. (OD's precisely) is metioned, some few public response who doesn't av d indepth knowledge on obvious disparity between d both will focus attention only to "dis pple are only taught how to cut glass alone (dat's optician) which is their general believe. May God save us from d warp mind heading our health sector

Samlo88:
Hmmm! I think our existing laws (poor implementation to defaulters sreally caused this shotcoming

that's correct sir.....by de time an ophthamologist prescribe a lens that will do more Good than harm to a patient will face malpractice suit due to incompetence(as per his field should be more of eye surgery ) or a mls face malpractice suit by wrong consultation/ interpretation of laboratory investigation(mls job is laboratory procedures to aid diagnose and not interpretation)....or an optometrist who mistakenly killed a patient during eye surgery(surgery is strictly for an ophthamologist abi)..... Only then will people start adhering strictly to dia field of expertise/specialization

Mcslize:


Ya

Congrats my brother, which sch re u from

Hello! Can someone tell me when to send the transcript to uniben for clearance please?

Bluedove:
Any Chemical engine admitted student in d house

Yes o, me

originbm:


My brother,u doubt when i tell u dat without refraction ophthalmologists wont make half the money they make now?
1.Every body above the age of 45 must wear a prescription lens for at least presbyopia,wen doing near work like reading.
2.Look into a newspaper or magazine and tell me the most popular object aside of clothes....its lenses.
3.Not to talk of myopic,astigmatic,binocular issues....
If not for the presence of quacks in the eye care profession,no specialty would be as lucrative as it is...visit any eye clinic owned by an optometrist or opthalmologist and u would confirm wat i tell you....
4.Wen u start going for outreach,check out for the section with the longest line,its always the eye section....

like i said ,visit ,ask questions,observe....you will confirm wat i say....

Thank you sir.

Thanks bro! You've already nailed it on d head by making a well clarification to what has been in d darkness to me. I'm letting u aware dat u are part of those pple I will be consulting tru dis forum for any future occurence/questions regards in this field of practiced as I'd already added ur moniker to d list of members followed on this forum. Shalom!!!

Azukam1:

i av remove ur name, and i hope u av seen the past question in ur email.

pls do uniben accept direct entry into industrial chemistry, am an OND student reading Science lab tech.

giftforlife9:


pls do uniben accept direct entry into industrial chemistry, am an OND student reading Science lab tech.

yes boss d do......but y opt for ICH when u are grounded in SLT?...y not go in for medical lab science#justadvising# but if your drm cos na ICH...gud luck

chidarlus:
yes boss d do......but y opt for ICH when u are grounded in SLT?...y not go in for medical lab science#justadvising# but if your drm cos na ICH...gud luck

Well, SLT is nt MLS n although dey may accept it 4 MLS, ICh or Chem Engr is closer 2 it

chidarlus:
yes boss d do......but y opt for ICH when u are grounded in SLT?...y not go in for medical lab science#justadvising# but if your drm cos na ICH...gud luck

THATS A GUD ADVICE, BUT MONEY THEY ICH THAN MEDIC LAB, SO I WANT TO APPLY NEXT YEAR AFTER MY OND HOW DO I GO ABT IT

Edoh10:
Well, SLT is nt MLS n although dey may accept it 4 MLS, ICh or Chem Engr is closer 2 it

nobody is saying SLT is same wit MLS...just saying. D re somewhat connected as both are connected to d laboratory(ofcos medical laboratory is not d only laboratory we have but in nigeria,I guess dah is. D d basic idea of a laboratory we knw) ,ICH and chem engr closer to SLT abi?...I fit no knw dah one shaa.. As me no sabi SLT curriculum

giftforlife9:


THATS A GUD ADVICE, BUT MONEY THEY ICH THAN MEDIC LAB, SO I WANT TO APPLY NEXT YEAR AFTER MY OND HOW DO I GO ABT IT

okay if you fink dat dia is money in ICH than MLS all you need do is purchase Direct entry form from jamb office(currently its not on sale) and opt for uniben,ICH and submit your credentials and the jamb DE printout to any jamb office close to your vicinity nd then wait to purchase uniben's post D E form,write the exam and hope to score high