I am vague about this two groups. Can someone please enlighting on the different between them?

safarigirl, barcanista, seun, omenka, phockphockman, billyonaire, aljharem, maclatunji, datolee, chukwudi44, all4naija. Any clue from u guys?

Google it. But hold your bible on your right hand while doing that bc you may not recover from your discoveries.

Freemansory is a society that believe that there is a divine being somewhere, whether gods, God, Allah or Sango it doesn't matter. All her members believe in a divine and are members of one religion or the other. They seek to advance humanity ideals

Illuminati is a creation of the imaginative minds of Conspiracy theorists.

@ Tonylyte:

vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/the-order-of-the-illuminati/

Happy reading.

Freemason I'm really not clear with their existence but they are men of the religious world in contrast to the illuminati which started off like a group back in baravia in the 17thcentury before it even got to the US,They are really a group of scholars,free thinkers and bright minds who took it upon themselves to free the world from Religion mental slavery,unfold conspiracy theories,reveal the underworld secrets,expose bad government,prejudice,superstitions etc,The government back then in baravia banned all cult because the illuminati was illuminating the people and making them see wrong from right so they disbanded and reformed again but in secret that's why they presently known as secret society and they have so many secrets to reveal to the world but an average mind wouldn't care because the government and religious bodies tagged them as anti-christ and devil oriented but its really the opposite because No Religion wants you free mentally/revolutionary and No Government would want their people questioning their excesses and authenticity.
Summary--illuminati is like Atheist coming to free your mind from the f00lishness of the corrupted world by the freemasonry(religious leaders). government,religion,unleashing conspiracy theories etc!!! Note---The only way to defeat their purpose is by calling them satan which is never true,the real satan are the once milking you off politically and religiously.
HOW DO I KNOW? I spend at least 2hours to study everyday and when you study like I does then vulnerability would be power.

Thunder74, barcanista, omenka and aaronson am with u. Thanks for enlightening me on the difference between them. I was thinking freemason and illuminatti are all religion tantamounted.

Tonylyte:
Thunder74, barcanista, omenka and aaronson am with u. Thanks for enlightening me on the difference between them. I was thinking freemason and illuminatti are all religion tantamounted.

You are welcome. But, errr, please don't be offended, what is the meaning of "tantamounted"??

Illumination on the Illuminati
by
Reverend Mageson666
On the much framed subject of the Free
Masons and the Illuminati here is a brief
history of the events that lead to subversion of
the Masons by Jewry and the truth of the
Illuminati:
Several good articles addressing the subject
are here:
The Truth About the New World Order
The Temple of Solomon
The New Atlantis
Rothschild hired a son of a Jewish Rabbi
named Adam Weishaupt to create a psuedo-
Masonic looking front- [The Illuminati] and
armed him with massive funds and contacts
the stage was set.
History records that on May 1, 1776, Dr. Adam
Weishaupt founded the Bavarian Order of the
ILLUMINATI. Weishaupt was a Professor of
Jewish Canon Law at the University of
Ingolstadt in Bavaria, Germany. He was born
to Jewish parents and later "converted" to
Roman Catholicism. He became a high-
ranking member of The Order Of The Jesuits,
whom he subsequently left to form his very
own organization at the clear behest of the
newly formed "House Of Rothschild."
It was the Jewish Weishaupt's belief that only
a chosen few could qualify for enough
"illumination" to guide and rule the world. The
problem was, where could he find enough
intellectual "light bearers" to start the ball
rolling? He subsequently found them in
various lodges and orders of the day, such as
the various Masonic lodges, the Rosicrucian
Order and other legitimate and sincere orders
of antiquity. This is confirmed yet again by
Edith Starr-Miller in her classic, "Occult
Theocracy:" "As the organization of the
Illuminati developed, so did its ambitions,
which ended in a plot to subvert Freemasonry
to its aim of world domination by any and all
means ……. After obtaining control of certain
Masonic Lodges, Weishaupt and his
associates recklessly vaunted their growing
power."
Weishaupt took the name, Spartacus, because,
like the Roman warrior, he was dedicated to
freeing the [opressed masses] from the
oppression of all monarchies and religious
powers, his desire to shake off the yoke of
limitation would include not only governments
and organized religion, but also the institution
of marriage, and even family....
Weishaupt wanted a system of truly global
dimensions, even if it brought about violent
worldwide revolution and rivers of blood. His
"benevolent dictatorship" had six main points
dealing with the abolition of:
1. Ordered or nationalistic governments in the
form of monarchies.
2. Private property.
3. Inheritance rights.
4. Patriotism to nationalist causes.
5. Social order in families, sexual prohibition
laws [protecting minors] and all moral codes.
6. All religious disciplines based on faith in a
living God, as opposed to faith in nature, man,
and reason. [Pushing atheism to remove all
spiritual knowledge].
This is almost word-for-word from Karl Marx's
THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO and that these
six points are also perfectly consistent with
the Protocols in general, [once again proving
their legitimacy].
Weishaupt's vision for a future world was a
full-on Communism, with all possessions,
even children, held in common.
It is more interesting to learn that Karl Marx
was not the real founder of Communist world
revolution. Its true father was Adam
Weishaupt, founder of the "Freemasonic Order"
of the Illuminati- Marschalko
"The great strength of our Order lies in its
concealment; let it never appear in any place
in its own name, but always covered by
another name, and another occupation. None
is fitter than the three lwers degrees of
Freemasonry; the public is accustomed to it,
expects little from it, and therefore takes little
notice of it."
- Adam Weishaupt
At its beginning, the Illuminati was not a
Masonic order, and Weishaupt himself did not
enter a lodge until 1777, when he received
induction into the Lodge Theodore de Bon
Conseil in Munich. However, once inside
Masonry, Weishaupt immediately saw its
potential value to be a vehicle for the
realization of his Illuminati dreams. To create
an official union between the Illuminati and
Freemasonry, Weishaupt set about organizing
the Congress of Wilhelmsbas at the Castle of
William IX of Hesse-Kassel, to occur on July
16, 1782. That special even, which was
momentous in both size and aspirations, was
attended by elite representatives of Masonic
lodges from all over.
It was also there that a decision was reached
to allow the previously excluded Jews to be
granted admittance into Freemasonry. The
Illuminati creed claimed all people are equal.
[Communism/Christianity]
Christianity & Communism: Jewish Twins
However, there was another, tacit reason for
the change in Masonic policy towards the
Jews, money was needed....And the Jews
where the principal bankers of Europe, a role
they had assumed since the time of the fall of
the Knights Templar. And don't forget King
William IX was in debt at the time, and was in
general a psychopatic individual.
When the time came for a vote on their
admittance at Wilhelmsbad, the Jews were so
anxious to win the day that they completely
filled the hall with other Jewish supporters. It
was not long afterwards that the Illuminati
membership included an abundance of Jewish
banking families, including the Rothschilds,
the Oppenheimers, the Wertheimers, the
Schusters, Speyers, and Sterns.
New lodges of predominantly Jews were
formed in Frankfurt the Rothschild's financial
capital in Europe, and soon all of Illumininzed
Freemasonry would make the city its world
headquarters.
The first order of buisness for the Illuminati-
initiated Jews, who were the was to manifest
their prophesied Zion, a world ruled by the
chosen people of Yahweh. Plans were set in
motion for the Jews to finally have their "land
of milk and honey" that had been promised to
them for so long [in their own Jew minds] and
it would be the entire world.
The opportunity for manifesting their Zion
arrived with the Russian Revolution, which
was financed by the Jewish bankers. One of
their own, the German Jew, Karl Marx, had
catalyzed the event with the publication of his
Commnunist Manifesto.
Karl Marx who's real name was Rabbi
Mordechai Levi was a member of the League
of the Just of which would lead to the creation
of the Communist League.
-1841, Moses Hess, brought Marx into a
society called the "League of the Just"
The motto of the League of the Just (Bund der
Gerechten) was "All Men are Brothers" and its
goals were "the establishment of the Kingdom
of God on Earth, based on the ideals of love of
one's neighbor, equality and justice".[1]. See
how Christianity is the twin of Communism.
See- Christianity & Communism: Jewish Twins
The Bolshevik leader of the Revolution, Lenin,
who on both sides of his family was of Jewish
lineage, contributed his plan for a centralized
government that would be controlled by a
Jewish oligarchy. After Lenin and his
Illuminati cohorts raised their flags at the end
of the Russian Revolution, their new
communist government emerged with Jews
occupying at least 75% of its highest
positions...And end up with 60 million Gentiles
murdered by the Jews, by the time
Communism was over. Many of them
murdered in an organized system of camps all
run by Jewish Commissar's.
Slave Labor in Soviet Russia
The Jewish bankers also took another tact and
and slowly built up an empire of financial
istitutions to oversee a capitalistic
infrastructure that would govern the world. As
one Jewish banker and Illuminati patron,
Amshel Rothschild, is known to have famously
remarked, "Give me the control of a county's
finances, and I care not who governs the
country!"
Which leads to Communism in the end. The
Jews hold all wealth and power and the
Gentiles are reduced to total slavery to global
Jewry's One World Order.
The nations will gather to pay homage to the
people of God: all the fortunes of the nations
will pass to the Jewish people, they will march
captive behind the Jewish people in chains
and willl prostrate themselves before them,
their kings will bring up their sons, and their
princesses will nurse their children. The Jews
will command the nations, they will summon
peoples whom they do not even know them
will haten to them. The riches of the sea and
the wealth of natons will come to the Jews of
their own right.
"Any people of the Kingdom who will not serve
Isreal will be destroyed"
-Isidore Loeb [Le Litterature des Pauvres dans
la Bible].
What were the effects of the subversion of Free
Masonry by the Jews, within the organization?
Masonry is based upon Judaism. Eliminate
the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic
Ritual and what is left?
- The Jewish Tribune [New York,Oct 28,1927]
"In the present nations, Freemasonry is only of
benefit to the Jews"
-Theodore Herzl [Founder and Leader of World
Zionism]
"We have founded many secret associations,
which all work for our purpose, under our
orders and our direction. One of the many
triumphs of our Freemansonry is that those
Gentiles who become members of our Lodges,
shoud never suspect that we are using them
to build their own jails, upon whose terraces
we shall erect the throne of our unversal King
of the Jews; and should never know that we
are commanding them to forge the chains of
their own servility to our future King of the
World"
-Opening speech made at the B'nai B'rith
convention in Paris [published in the Catholic
Gazette, Feb 1936]
Here it should be obvious why the Third Reich
banned such organizations within Germany.
They are organs of Jewish Communism.
Sources: The Coming Gnostic Civilization by
M.A.Pinkham

Freemasonry is mystical organization with core aims of advancing human survival, human civilization, peace and happiness. Illuminati, does not exist as an organization, not at all, just conspiracy, but the word illuminati is used in many mystical and esoteric organizations including Freemasonry, Rosicrucian order (AMORC) to connote awareness, knowledge etc.

Please be guided.

So mote it be.

Tonylyte:
Thunder74, barcanista, omenka and aaronson am with u. Thanks for enlightening me on the difference between them. I was thinking freemason and illuminatti are all religion tantamounted.

Tantamonunt meaning you think if they both equivalent in seriousness,my logical answer is YES!!! now paint this picture...Freemason as the religion leaders uses religion to control the mind of an average person,defining you life and giving you rules as frame work to live by and work with by so doing instilling fear in to you to taming the wild you so you can can be governable by the conquerors and government!!!! But the illuminati is a selfless type of organization that wanna bring about the liberty revolution but its somewhat impossoble cus you cant fight your government and you cant fight the public you only teach the few who is willing to learn...This reminds me of the greatest philosopher SOCRATES the world wisest and educated man who also died for the truth by the government when teaching the few who were willing to learn.

aaronson:
Tantamonunt meaning you think if they both equivalent in seriousness,my logical answer is YES!!! now paint this picture...Freemason as the religion leaders uses religion to control the mind of an average person,defining you life and giving you rules as frame work to live by and work with by so doing instilling fear in to you to taming the wild you so you can can be governable by the conquerors and government!!!! But the illuminati is a selfless type of organization that wanna bring about the liberty revolution but its somewhat impossoble cus you cant fight your government and you cant fight the public you only teach the few who is willing to learn...This reminds me of the greatest philosopher SOCRATES the world wisest and educated man who also died for the truth by the government when teaching the few who were willing to learn.

In other word illuminatti is anti-dogmatism? They are not devilish as people have portrayed them to be then. Judging by your comments, i think their sole aim is to liberate men from mental slavery and ineptudeness. Thanks bro.

Billyonaire:
Freemasonry is mystical organization with core aims of advancing human survival, human civilization, peace and happiness. Illuminati, does not exist as an organization, not at all, just conspiracy, but the word illuminati is used in many mystical and esoteric organizations including Freemasonry, Rosicrucian order (AMORC) to connote awareness, knowledge etc.

Please be guided.

So mote it be.

Can i say illuminatians are similar to atheists?

Tonylyte:

Can i say illuminatians are similar to atheists?

No

omenka:
You are welcome. But, errr, please don't be offended, what is the meaning of "tantamounted"??

Equivalent or connected with.

Billyonaire:
No

Why? Are they religious?

Tonylyte:

Why? Are they religious?

Who ?

Billyonaire:
Who ?

Illuminattians.

Tonylyte:

Illuminattians.

No such word exists in my lexicography.

Billyonaire:
No such word exists in my lexicography.

How do u mean? Words like ''illuminatti/illuminattians'' doesnt exist?

Tonylyte:

How do u mean? Words like ''illuminatti/illuminattians'' doesnt exist?

Probably its your spellings that confuse me.

Tonylyte:

In other word illuminatti is anti-dogmatism? They are not devilish as people have portrayed them to be then. Judging by your comments, i think their sole aim is to liberate men from mental slavery and ineptudeness. Thanks bro.

Exactly!!!

Billyonaire:
Probably its your spellings that confuse me.

Am oky now. Thanks for your comments.

all4naija:
Lol... Do you wanna join any of those fraternities? However, I am an Atheist and they might not want unbeliever in their midst. It is easier to join if you are really interested but you aren't going to get high position if you are not talented. I would advise you join at the peak of your success to gain some recognition.

What happens to saying only the things you have knowledge of.

all4naija:

That was for the reason I intented to join Freemason before I withdrew in the past. My friend really wanted me to.

Its not for the faint hearted my dear but its simple when you are ready, the master will appear.

all4naija:

It is not about faint-hearted, dude! If you have a friend who is a member you can easily join with his invitation. One very important thing is that you must believe in a supreme being.

You are funny. Do not sound conviction about things you dont know. You might be talking to someone who knows more but decides to play dumb.

Billyonaire:
You are funny. Do not sound conviction about things you dont know. You might be talking to someone who knows more but decides to play dumb.

Lol...Love your reply bro...