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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:15pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


Boko Haram only exists on less than 0.1% of Nigerian land territory

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Is good how you undermine and reduce them into Ragtag's, but that's not what the world sees with the way you handle them. They really give you a hike for your money.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:18pm On Nov 21, 2014
patches689:


You know that the South African Airforce has no less than 4 seperate models of Recon/ISTAR pods


[size=16pt]Show me SAAF Hawk jet with targeting pods.....
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:22pm On Nov 21, 2014
patches689:
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Boko Haram occupied land has NO fixed map, it changes everyday we flush them down the toilet.

Boko has lost too many towns, Damboa, Michika, Kanduga, Mubi, Chibok, endless list....so your map is useless grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:22pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


[size=16pt]Show me SAAF Hawk jet with targeting pods.....
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Dont need to, hawks dont need the pods to target for PGM's

All they need is LinkZA

But here you go
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/82/vicon-18-601e

Are you into Sadomasochism? You seem to get turned on by the beating we are giving you.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:25pm On Nov 21, 2014
patches689:


Ok.

So you are saying that: despite having all the information you need to lock onto a target

You cannot

Because..... well... because you say so

Do you even know what ISTAR is?

I dont have to show you anything. You have to show us that data-link cannot be used to deploy weapons.


Nigerian ISTAR puts NAF 66 years ahead od SANDF-SAAF....I should be asking if your Soweto military Generals know what ISTAR is grin

Individual weapon/ordanance needs lock on to h.it target and launcher platform MUST be withing weapon-target range limits.

Dumbo Domingo @Patches grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 1:30pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


Nigerian ISTAR puts NAF 66 years ahead od SANDF-SAAF....I should be asking if your Soweto military Generals know what ISTAR is grin

Individual weapon/ordanance needs lock on to h.it target and launcher platform MUST be withing weapon-target range limits.

Dumbo Domingo @Patches grin
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Sorry you still playing catch up. Sure your 2 MPAs can find targets but that is it. The gripen and hawk can both find and attack said targets. We all so have more tyes of ISRT sytems than you have aircrafts.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30pm On Nov 21, 2014
patches689:


Training = experience.

Nigeria will be like Libya in a few weeks of combat, unable to respond to death from above


You need psychiatric help.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:30pm On Nov 21, 2014
mzilakazi:

Wow!!! I never knew there were so many towns and villages captured by BH. Anyway, many media report that the military campaign to flush out these insurgents proves futile since militants simply withdraw from one town and capture another.
JEALOUSY!!
BAD BELLÉ!
you must be a boko haram agent in diaspora,if not you will agree that these terrorists operate in coordinated units,and are spread out all over the north-east and cameroon,so its very easy for them to attack different places at the same time.who told you that the terrorist "withdraw from one town and capture another"?,most of them are usually killed during military raid,and the rest of them captured,only few escape.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:31pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


Boko Haram occupied land has NO fixed map, it changes everyday we flush them down the toilet.

Boko has lost too many towns, Damboa, Michika, Kanduga, Mubi, Chibok, endless list....so your map is useless grin grin
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Nope, they simply change the venue.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 1:31pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


[size=16pt]Show me SAAF Hawk jet with targeting pods.....
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Show me more than 3 NAF F7 in the air

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:33pm On Nov 21, 2014
zaandrew:


Sorry you still playing catch up. Sure your 2 MPAs can find targets but that is it. The gripen and hawk can both find and attack said targets. We all so have more tyes of ISRT sytems than you have aircrafts.

NAF F-7NI will intercept SAAF Gripens and Hawks, that is the point you forget all the time !

NAF has more missiles than SAAF's 25 units of IRIS-T that you share one each per aircraft grin grin

South African air force has critical shortage of air to air missiles

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:33pm On Nov 21, 2014
EVarn:

JEALOUSY!!
BAD BELLÉ!
you must be a boko haram agent in diaspora,if not you will agree that these terrorists operate in coordinated units,and are spread out all over the north-east and cameroon,so its very easy for them to attack different places at the same time.who told you that the terrorist "withdraw from one town and capture another"?,most of them are usually killed during military raid,and the rest of them captured,only few escape.


I am not, I am simply unimpressed by your poor, amateurish performance against a ragtag militants.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:37pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


NAF F-7NI will intercept SAAF Gripens and Hawks, that is the point you forget all the time !

NAF has more missiles than SAAF's 25 units of IRIS-T that you share one each per aircraft grin grin

South African air force has critical shortage of air to air missiles

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I wonder what will a low cost F7 which cannot fire missiles be doing by intercepting Gripen fighter, unless the F7 pilots want to apply for death certificates.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 1:54pm On Nov 21, 2014
even now,cameroon is pissing its pant as boko haram steps up attack in cameroon.even their generals know that if boko haram starts real attacks in their territory,cameroon would be run over in months.
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http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Boko-haram-steps-up-attacks-in-cameroon-20141120
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:00pm On Nov 21, 2014
mzilakazi:


I wonder what will a low cost F7 which cannot fire missiles be doing by intercepting Gripen fighter, unless the F7 pilots want to apply for death certificates.

LOL...F-7NI cannot fire missiles? Why did NAF buy the great and powerful PL-9C missiles and armed the F-7NI ? LOL grin grin

LOL....NAF F-7NI have equal capacity missiles with your over-priced Gripens, how unfortunate for you grin grin

Even NAF Alpha jets, MBB 339 jets and L-39 jets combine a total of over 40 jets, more than enough to wipe out the SAAF's 24 Hawk jets before your pilots launch anything called weapons grin grin

F-7 jets will be facing Gripen jets.

NAF and SAAF are almost equally matched, but NAF has ISTAR aircraft power 66 years ahead of SAAF
grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:04pm On Nov 21, 2014
zaandrew:


Show me more than 3 NAF F7 in the air

The NAF commander you all quoted for Scorpion jets purchase interest, has said NAF has 11 F-7 jets operational. PROVED BY NAF ITSELF grin


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:10pm On Nov 21, 2014
mzilakazi:

I am not, I am simply unimpressed by your poor, amateurish performance against a ragtag militants.
i'm also unimpressed by your poor,clueless and amateurish performance against:
(a) seleka rebels
(b) rhino poachers
(c) pirates in angola coasts
(d) cuban recruits in the angolan war.
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boko haram isnt a "rag-tag militant" as you so ignorantly claimed.they are more equipped than your troops in DRC.at least they dont lack tents and fuel,neither are they starved,like your troops.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 2:13pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:



How do you detect target without you too being detected and attacked ?

You have SANDF radar inside Nigerian side of the dividing frontline?

South Africa has NO Satellite, so forget GPS

Hawk jets have no targeting pod, so forget that too.

Best is Hawk may have FLIR with very short range and gets too close to target, gets shot down by Nigerian air defences

You cannot attack mobile target without a lock on radar or FLIR.

Data link is only for information telecoms NOT for locking on targets .

Show me where NATO said their jets used data links to lock on targets and attack

Dream on dreamer !
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Talk about changing the subject.

Easy, by using passive systems.

They don't need to be behind the enemy line, our mobile radar can still cover hundreds KM behind enemy line while being behind our own.

All GPS is run by the USAF, no matter what country, even that garmin you bought uses USAF. By the point is Moot, we use INS to, in fact GPS is a bad idea since EW can effect it.

Actually the hawks do have targeting pods.

Sorry, they have far better systems than your 2 MPAs

Yes you can, SA hit many a moving target in the 1970s and 1980s with out radar, IR or any thing.

Data link is for sending data, including targeting data. Aka here is a target for you to shoot.

Why NATO?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:14pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


The NAF commander you all quoted for Scorpion jets purchase interest, has said NAF has 11 F-7 jets operational. PROVED BY NAF ITSELF grin


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11 F7 which cannot fire missiles, so he said.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 2:15pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


The NAF commander you all quoted for Scorpion jets purchase interest, has said NAF has 11 F-7 jets operational. PROVED BY NAF ITSELF grin


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that air looks very solid.



You have 11 F7, but there is between zero and none that all 11 are operational, since there is this thing called maintenance.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:17pm On Nov 21, 2014
mzilakazi:


I wonder what will a low cost F7 which cannot fire missiles be doing by intercepting Gripen fighter, unless the F7 pilots want to apply for death certificates.
hehehehe....illiteracy is a deadly disease,that could kill deadly liers.so in your hallucinations,the F7 cannot carry or fire missiles?,you must have a fever.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 2:19pm On Nov 21, 2014


Targeting pod.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 2:25pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


Thank you for proving me right with the bolded part of your comment.....Data-link is a mere radio telecoms device, NOT a weapon for targeting and locking on enemy.

Data-link only communicates by radio of information to you, it's up to you to go locate that target, get withing firing range, acquire/track target, lock on target, fire on target when you are withing firing range.

You Soweto guys will soon say the tyres of your APCs are weapons because you can drive it over people's heads when they lie down grin grin

Buffoons grin grin
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It allows the transfer of Data, including targeting Data

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:30pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


LOL...F-7NI cannot fire missiles? Why did NAF buy the great and powerful PL-9C missiles and armed the F-7NI ? LOL grin grin

LOL....NAF F-7NI have equal capacity missiles with your over-priced Gripens, how unfortunate for you grin grin

Even NAF Alpha jets, MBB 339 jets and L-39 jets combine a total of over 40 jets, more than enough to wipe out the SAAF's 24 Hawk jets before your pilots launch anything called weapons grin grin

F-7 jets will be facing Gripen jets.

NAF and SAAF are almost equally matched, but NAF has ISTAR aircraft power 66 years ahead of SAAF
grin grin

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That's untrue, your NAF is 100 years behind SAAF. Your NAF will be beaten bitterly should they face SAAF. We have equipment that is far superior than NAF would only dream of.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 2:46pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:



How do you detect target without you too being detected and attacked ?

You have SANDF radar inside Nigerian side of the dividing frontline?

South Africa has NO Satellite, so forget GPS

Hawk jets have no targeting pod, so forget that too.

Best is Hawk may have FLIR with very short range and gets too close to target, gets shot down by Nigerian air defences

You cannot attack mobile target without a lock on radar or FLIR.

Data link is only for information telecoms NOT for locking on targets .

Show me where NATO said their jets used data links to lock on targets and attack

Dream on dreamer !
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I told you before that your science is up to scratch. By the way can you explain to me what is GPS and how do SA get to use it even for civilian use yet they do not have satellite? Your brain is messed up young man.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:20pm On Nov 21, 2014
EVarn:
i'm also unimpressed by your poor,clueless and amateurish performance against:
(a) seleka rebels
(b) rhino poachers
(c) pirates in angola coasts
(d) cuban recruits in the angolan war.
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boko haram isnt a "rag-tag militant" as you so ignorantly claimed.they are more equipped than your troops in DRC.at least they dont lack tents and fuel,neither are they starved,like your troops.

Master Blaster of the week grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 3:45pm On Nov 21, 2014
EVarn:
i'm also unimpressed by your poor,clueless and amateurish performance against:
(a) seleka rebels
(b) rhino poachers
(c) pirates in angola coasts
(d) cuban recruits in the angolan war.
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boko haram isnt a "rag-tag militant" as you so ignorantly claimed.they are more equipped than your troops in DRC.at least they dont lack tents and fuel,neither are they starved,like your troops.

Seleka rebels that though both out numbered us and out gunned us suffered heavy losses.

Rhino poachers are still mostly a SANPARK issue, SANDF only helps out. Either way we still kill and capture hundreds of poachers and we still have more rhinos than the entire world combined.

Not one act of piracy in Angolan waters since our deployment.

Cuba sent there best solders and the USSR spent more money there than in Astan.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:45pm On Nov 21, 2014
zaandrew:


Talk about changing the subject.

Easy, by using passive systems.

They don't need to be behind the enemy line, our mobile radar can still cover hundreds KM behind enemy line while being behind our own.

All GPS is run by the USAF, no matter what country, even that garmin you bought uses USAF. By the point is Moot, we use INS to, in fact GPS is a bad idea since EW can effect it.

Actually the hawks do have targeting pods.

Sorry, they have far better systems than your 2 MPAs

Yes you can, SA hit many a moving target in the 1970s and 1980s with out radar, IR or any thing.

Data link is for sending data, including targeting data. Aka here is a target for you to shoot.

Why NATO?

Tell me lies that Russia and China depend on America for satellite positioning.

Satellite is the only global means of identifying a targets accurate position, South Africa has NO satellite, Nigeria has 3 Satelites so our military is strategically more powerful than your blind bat SANDF that cannot see beyond it's nose.

Nigerian army can see Jacob Zuma undressed in his swimming pool grin

Satellite gives you the true and sustainable position tracking of a target.

No source to prove SAAF Hawks have the compatible targeting pods because not any pod can work on any aircraft.

Nigerian NAF ATR-42 can radar lock-on multiple dozens of targets 330 km away at the same time, SAAF cannot and CANNOT do that.

NAF Alpha jets have been targeting fast moving enemy vehicles since 20 years ago till today.

SAAF is asleep at home for the past 20 years with ZERO modern day combat experience
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:53pm On Nov 21, 2014
zaandrew:


Targeting pod.

I see one Hawk, one Gripen, one thing that looks like a targeting pod....for the Gripen, unless you can prove SAAF imported Hawk compatible targeting pods because the ones for Gripen cannot work with the Hawk due to software incompatibility.

I need proof of Hawk targeting pod, what is the name of the Hawk targeting pod? Gripen uses Lightening targeting pod.

Name the pod for the Hawk and prove it was software and hardware integrated for compatibility.

SIPRI says the British who sold Hawk jet to you did NOT sell targeting pod for it, to SAAF grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 3:57pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


Tell me lies that Russia and China depend on America for satellite positioning.

Satellite is the only global means of identifying a targets accurate position, South Africa has NO satellite, Nigeria has 3 Satelites so our military is strategically more powerful than your blind bat SANDF that cannot see beyond it's nose.

Nigerian army can see Jacob Zuma undressed in his swimming pool grin

Satellite gives you the true and sustainable position tracking of a target.

No source to prove SAAF Hawks have the compatible targeting pods because not any pod can work on any aircraft.

Nigerian NAF ATR-42 can radar lock-on multiple dozens of targets 330 km away at the same time, SAAF cannot and CANNOT do that.

NAF Alpha jets have been targeting fast moving enemy vehicles since 20 years ago till today.

SAAF is asleep at home for the past 20 years with ZERO modern day combat experience
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shows just how miss informed you are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS

Satlites are some of the worst means since they only spend a brief time over there target area. They useless in tactical needs.

Sure they can, if the satlite is over that area at that time of day meaning the rest of the area is not being watched and rember SA has satlite tracking stations. So we will know where the blind spots are.

And that information is useless, why do you think GPS is used against static targets, I will give you a hint, it the word static.

SAAF Hawks where integrated with the same pods used on the cheeta C.

Other than or range of mobil radars. Any case your ATRs have no means to prosecute targets and there comms can be jammed making them useless. They can see but that is all, And using that radar gives away there position to.

And your point is what? could any of those guys deploy weapons to shoot back at the alpha jets?

And NAF spends there days shooting at pic up trucks where SAAF spends there time training to fight a war vs a actual threat.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:01pm On Nov 21, 2014
zaandrew:


Seleka rebels that though both out numbered us and out gunned us suffered heavy losses.

Rhino poachers are still mostly a SANPARK issue, SANDF only helps out. Either way we still kill and capture hundreds of poachers and we still have more rhinos than the entire world combined.

Not one act of piracy in Angolan waters since our deployment.

Cuba sent there best solders and the USSR spent more money there than in Astan.

Cuban army has no good soldiers, they used teenage conscripts to defeat South Africa, Cuba had ZERO war experience until they met SADF and used your country to make history.

Nigerian navy is the force controlling Angolan waters with our super long range radars, satellite, and OPVs.

South African navy is waiting till 2015 hoping and dreaming to use Frigates as OPV and ruin the engines with over-work while abandoning South Africa's 3,500 km long coastline.

SANDF is still afraid of Seleka till today
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 4:05pm On Nov 21, 2014
agaugust:


Master Blaster of the week grin grin
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*bows and collects the award*,i'm honoured mœnsèur agaugust.lol.

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