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Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 6:08am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:i try to reply this post,but my network is bad. Can you differentiate between religeon and sect? The sunni and shia are sects but belong to one religeon, the op was talking about religeon not sect. However, this sect issue has been answer,jesu prophecise about this long time ago, he said,because of him there will be division amoung brother,God know does that are his own,the op even talk about some christian sect. God did not reject sacrifice,He only say,to obey is better that sacrifice. Show me were God reject sacrifice, called it sin. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 6:23am On Nov 17, 2014 |
davien:i culd'nt reply your post due to network problem. There are many historical quote about jesus,but if i provide it, it will be the same excusses. Author's Background About A.D. 52, Thallus wrote a history about the Middle East from the time of the Trojan War to the first century A.D.[1] The work has been lost and the only record we have of his writings is through Julius Africanus (AD 221). Below Julius Africanus refers to Christ's crucifixion and the darkness that covered the earth prior to his death. Reference To Jesus Christ "On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the 263 third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun. For the Hebrews celebrate the passover on the 14th day according to the moon, and the passion of our Savior fails on the day before the passover [see Phlegon]; but an eclipse of the sun takes place only when the moon comes under the sun. And it cannot happen at any other time but in the interval between the first day of the new moon and the last of the old, that is, at their junction: how then should an eclipse be supposed to happen when the moon is almost diametrically opposite the sun?" - Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18.1 Conclusion This reference reveals several key things: 1) Darkness covered the earth at Christ's death. 2) The key question was: "What caused it?" 3) The time of the darkness agrees with Matthew 27:45. 4) An eclipse cannot account for the darkness - this was a miracle. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 6:38am On Nov 17, 2014 |
urheme:that is your own assumption,there are many testimony of life after death,it is the fear of hell and you want to defined your life after death to suit your belief. What is the nature of this god of the universe? Is there any punishment for not obeying his command?the truth is that you want to invent god in your imagination to suit your belief system. The God of Christianity is differs from the gods of the world's religions in terms of His nature and existence. Most of the religions of the world describe their god as existing within the universe. In many cases, these gods even have parents. Both of these attributes are logically inconsistent with the reality of our universe. Only a God who is transcendent to both space and time, like the God of the Bible, is logically possible. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 6:48am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Kay17:maby youu dont understand my point here, in religions salvation is attained by human effort,example if you Good deed surpass your bad deed God will have mercy on you,this is differs from the moral law. But in christianity, it is the free gift of God,your must genuely repent to deserv the gift of God in christ jesus. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 8:15am On Nov 17, 2014 |
@kay17. Worldviews and moral choices: Three recently published studies show that worldview beliefs influence moral behavior. The first study showed that atheists were less likely to consider certain moral choices as being "very important" , especially patience, forgiveness, and generosity. A second study showed that teens who were not exposed to religious teaching were significantly more likely to be involved in negative behaviors than those who attend church. A third study showed that belief in the atheistic concept of determinism is correlated with an increased tendency to cheat. Even a short reading of a passage denying free will produced more cheating behavior among randomly-selected subject groups. These studies show that the promotion and prevalence of atheism in society can be expected to result in negative consequences to societies. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Rilwayne001: 9:04am On Nov 17, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Okay Can you differentiate between religeon and sect? Sect is more like sub-religion The sunni and shia are sects but belong to one religeon,True the op was talking about religeon not sect.And i asked you to apply the logic you used in interpreting religion to sect as well Below is what am talking about. Since many religious claims contradict one another, it would seem that not all religions could be simultaneously true.How can we tell which religion(s) are true? Now apply thiss^^ to sect of christianity too. Since many sects of christianity doctrine contradicts one another, it would seem not all sects of christianity could be simulteneously true. How can you tell the true sects? However, this sect issue has been answer,jesu prophecise about this long time ago, he said,because of him there will be division amoung brother,Please quote the verse and let us examine it. God know does that are his own, How are you sure you have of God? how are you sure those that are not in your sect are of God? the op even talk about some christian sect. ptdf God did not reject sacrifice,He only say,to obey is better that sacrifice. Show me were God reject sacrifice, called it sin. Lets discuss this seperately, kindly create a thread for it please. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Kay17: 1:37pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
malvisguy212: That does not imply that Christianity is a true religion as a result. It is merely that Christianity has a different view from others. 1 Like |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by urheme: 1:59pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
malvisguy212: please be specific. as at what time does this gift and mercy comes to you? because the mere fact that a person gave his life to Christ or now have salvation will not stop the law from taking its course, the punishment for murder is a death sentence irrespective of whether you have salvation or not, unless you are saying the free gift of God and mercies comes to that person after he must have been hung, this is mercy after death. you are mistaking moral laws for positive laws, moral laws does not prescribe sanction. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 6:38pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
urheme:i dont know how to quote post by post, but this coment you make "because the mere fact that a person gave his life to Christ or now have salvation will not stop the law from taking its course, the punishment for murder is a death sentence irrespective of whether you have salvation or not" the above coment was mad by you, you are mixing the divine law of God to judge with the natural law of man, Ofcourse a killer will saved is punishment, but in the divine law of God,if you repent genuely, God will forgive you. But the natural law will condemed the killer. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 6:43pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Kay17:thank you for your sincerity, it is either all religion are right and christianity is wrong or the other way round, now all religion can never be right because they all have differnce name giving to there god. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 7:07pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: ◄ Mark 13:13 ► Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. Matthew 15:9 In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments what this verse is saying is this,the name of jesus will caused division, some will believe in jesus as God but some will not. I believe in jesu because i have encounter Him and he called me his son, sometimes in my dreams, whenever am in denger, a Lamb always apper and saved me, jesus is the lamb of God. You are the one that request for it, open a thread and i promies to clear your thought |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by honourhim: 7:22pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
urheme: Bro this is not a matter of what you believe in, It is matter of what is actually the true state of things. Believing in a wrong thing cannot make it right. There is an after life where you are faced with heaven an hell fire. You may choose not to believe it but it doesnt change anything. I pray you change from your wrong belief. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by urheme: 7:35pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
malvisguy212: We may be saying the same thing, but i don't understand the way you are putting it, i want to save my self the head ache, i concur, Abeg no quote me again |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Rilwayne001: 9:34am On Nov 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Kind tell me how this verse proves division/sects. Does the 41000 denominations/sects stands firm together Matthew 15:9 In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments Again you failed here, 1) This verse above does'nt relate to your claim below. 2) The verse was not talking about Jesus rather yahweh, Mat 15:7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 15:8 "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'" what this verse is saying is this,the name of jesus will caused division, some will believe in jesus as God but some will not. SMDH Try again I believe in jesu because i have encounter Him and he called me his son, sometimes in my dreams, whenever am in denger, a Lamb always apper and saved me, jesus is the lamb of God. Hmmmm Your usual thing You are the one that request for it, open a thread and i promies to clear your thought Okay will do that whenever am opportuned. Don't forget to vote for me today www.nairaland.com/2001693/mr-nairaland-december-2014-eliminations |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by davien(m): 8:50pm On Nov 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212:I actually researched about this before replying... From my findings,thallus was a samaritan freedman of emperor tiberius who wrote a history of greece and asia,and mentioned an eclipse of the sun. In 221 CE, a christian writer, sextus julius africanus notes that "Thallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away this darkness as an eclipse of the sun." Thallus does not refer to a "jesus", only to an eclipse, which christians have used to bolster their mythical story. So your claim of a "supernatural" event is just an eclipse of the sun.... |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 9:14pm On Nov 19, 2014 |
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Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 9:40pm On Nov 19, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:Luke 12:51-53: Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in- law. The verse say, "five in one family" five (sect) in one famil(christianity) jesus begin with this "Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division." Following Christ in many countries carries a significant price to pay in many places of the world. In fact, the decision to become a Christian often results in being ostracized from one's family and even worse. Even within some Christian traditions, the decision to leave the tradition of one's family to join another tradition is met with exclusion from the family. Jesus told His disciples before His death that the world will, in fact, hate them: “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know the One who sent Me. John 15:18-21 So, there is division and that decision does arise out of one's decision to follow Christ, but the prophecy was that the world would hate Christians--not that Christians would hate the world (the people of the world). So, no, the passage should not be deleted. There are millions of Christians who have experienced the hatred of one's own family upon their decision to follow Christ. These verses predicted that. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 9:40pm On Nov 19, 2014 |
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Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Rilwayne001: 9:56pm On Nov 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212:Since you affirm that Jesus said all this word, then you automatically affirm that jesus is troublemaker who came to bring chaos and comfusion to humanity, only satan goes into a family where peace has beeen reigning and go into their midst to cause confusion. Do you even know the meaning of DIVISION? DIVISION surely turn to hatred, just take a look at the former PDP before the G5 governors left them,everything was smooth but immidietly division occured between them, the hatred is well known to everyone of us. Same way your alleged division you claimed jesus talked about makes every sects of xtianity to hate one another. In a nutshell, you affirmed that the mission of Jesus in this world is to cause division among hamanity. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in- law.Then Jesus must have been an enemy of unity, because no one will pray for such family. The verse say, [b] "five in one family" five (sect) in one famil(christianity) jesus begin with this"Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division." [/quote] Do we have 5sects of xtianity in the whole world? Following Christ in many countries carries a significant price to pay in many places of the world. In fact, the decision to become a Christian often results in being ostracized from one's family and even worse. Even within some Christian traditions, the decision to leave the tradition of one's family to join another tradition is met with exclusion from the family. Jesus told His disciples before His death that the world will, in fact, hate them: “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know the One who All this lengthy irrelevant post is still talking about hating xtians, tell me, all the 41000 sects believe they are all xtians, are you telling me that they all hate themselves, Do you hate yourself, Do you hate your father or your siblings? |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 7:39am On Nov 21, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:world peace is not among the will of God, because if evil is alow because of freewill,world peace will not happen, some people will disagree with the decision you make. You claim you have knowledge but your way of thinking is something else, example, is'nt muhammad the prophet of islam? If a christian want to convert to islam because of the teaching of muhammad and the father disagree with the decision of the child, because of muhammad there is disunty in the family,how can you reconcile this with a muslim want to convert to a christian? When i say 5 sect, is an example i use ,this verse talk about the division in christianity because it start with the word"family". |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Rilwayne001: 9:12am On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Then for what reason(s) did the bible say God created the world? For what reason did the bible say "For God so love te world" ? If peace is not part of the will of God then for what reason(s) as he been sending prophets and messangers to humanity? I ask you the other time that the mission of Jesus in this world is to cause division among humanity. is that what you are saying? Remember jesus said blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God , tell me if Jesus didnt peace to the world how do you then reconcile with the verse @bolded? Don't you think atall. Satan's greatest weapon is deception, which causes disunity and division are you affirming here that that was the mission of Jesus? See what Jesus said about division Luke 11:17 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them: "Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined , and a house divided against itself will fall . Division causes ruin, it causes a family to fall, now tell me is this what jesus brought? because if evil is alow because of freewill,world peace will not happen, some people will disagree with the decision you make. Dayuuummm....is'nt there evil in the world? You claim you have knowledge but your way of thinking is something else, Really! Everyone has knowledge, just that yours is very low talking about the religion you profess example, is'nt muhammad the prophet of islam? If a christian want to convert to islam because of the teaching of muhammad and the father disagree with the decision of the child, because of muhammad there is disunty in the family,how can you reconcile this with a muslim want to convert to a christian? Islam is a religion same as christianity You shouldnt use religion as an example, we are talking about sects of christianity here. Your claim was that Jesus brought division to christianity that was why we have over 41000sects. so clearyour mess please. Here is another verse. Mat 18:18 "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. The ^^verse above was saying if you are not bind on earth you will be loosed in heaven. is'nt it?: When i say 5 sect, is an example i use , this verse talk about the division in christianity because it start with the word"family". I already clear this ^^ with Luke 11:17, the verse also talk about family....try again @bolded .. Even paul was begging you not to divide 1Cor 1:10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. With over 41000sects do you all agree with one another? Dayuuummm....You don't read your bible thouroughly do you? 1 Like |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 10:09am On Nov 21, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:God creatd this world and called it "good" there is no verse in the bible that claim this world is perfect, world peace is not among the will of God,dose this mean we should do evil? How do you muslims reason? The purpose of we living in this world, is for us to love God and live in harmony with one another, without evil man will never express true love for God and to your fellow human,bible encourage us to make peace yes, BUT BIBLE NEVER SAY GOD WILL REMOVED EVILS COMPLETLY ON THIS WORLD Luke 11:17 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them: "Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined , and a house divided against itself will fall . Yes, thank you for quoting this verse, it is not the will of God for man to be divided among our self,but for the decision we make,it will happen,everybody is alow to make his choice,freewill. You miss my point, evil is alow in this world for man to chose to love or opposed God.https://www.nairaland.com/1995965/athiest-claim-god-existed-prayer christianity is not the same as islam, they are difference,the quran can never be the word of God with all the fail prophecey and the lies in it. 1Cor 1:10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. So you believe in paul now? Good, i repeat!! It is not the will of God for mankind to be divided, but for the sake of evil and freewill, man is alow to chose what he believe. discussing religion with you it a wast of time, because no one has ever answer your question, you chose what to reply, you could'nt reply my thread "lying diety" . |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Rilwayne001: 11:28am On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212: You have totally turn the discussion away from what its intended for. And its typical of you, its as always been what you do if you cant face the topic at hand. My question was about sects i xtianity, and instead of you to face it, you keep runing around and bringing irrelevant examples and issues....and the end of the day you claim jesus prophecise the division. You claim jesus was not a ppeacemaker. is'nt it Luke 11:17 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them: "Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined , and a house divided against itself will fall . Anybody reading your commentary to that verse will see how low your knowledge is. cus i wonder how it correlate with the verse You miss my point, evil is alow in this world for man to chose to love or opposed God.https://www.nairaland.com/1995965/athiest-claim-god-existed-prayer I never talked about evil and the world, my discuss here is all about sects in christianity, 41000sects, is the bible a book of confusion? So Jesus brought division of over 41000sects for you to choose the only right one of them? is'nt that what you are saying here? christianity is not the same as islam, they are difference, Im not talking about islam and xtianity here, am talking about the over 41000sects of christianity, since each of them claim to be true sects then they cannot all be simulteneously true....dont you gerrit the quran can never be the word of God with all the fail prophecey and the lies in it. And your alleged word of God is full of ccontradictions and errancy and has lled over 41000sects to have different doctrines Smh
No I dont believe him, but your claim was that jesus brought division is'nt it? Then someone must be lying between you, paul and jesus Good, i repeat!! It is not the will of God for mankind to be divided, but for the sake of evil and freewill, man is alow to chose what he believe. Again you are telling me here that God allegedly split xtianity to 41000sects in other for you to be searching for the 1 true sect discussing religion with you it a wast of time,Really. one can read this thread and see how you've been displaying your ignorance and tell who is a waste of time btw me and you. because no one has ever answer your question, you chose what to reply, You know i am not a gainsayer, i will always leave you when it is obviious that you cant comprehend my explanations Why should i venture into a futilr argument when it is obvious that the person am argueing is a stiffnecked ignoramus you could'nt reply my thread "lying diety" . LOL...a thread you bombarded with different topics that you are never stable on . will reply your thread when i av the time, even though none of you was able to addres my thread concerning the bedrock of you salvation, "analysis on the crucifixtion of jesus". Time will tell.. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 2:00pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:you called your self mr intelligent but you cant use the brain you claim to have. What do you understand by freewill? Can you love God without freewill? Jesus say his teaching will cause division among family,isn't christianity family?let me explain to you for the last time. Jesus say because of his teaching many will disagree, what dose this mean?this is were the root of division start, infact micah say the same thing in: ◄ Micah 7:6 ► For a son dishonors his father, a daughter rises up against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-- a man's enemies are the members of his own household. Jesus was not talking about outsider, but He is talking about brethren between christianity. You accuse me of lying. I CHALLENGE YOU TO QUOTE WERE I CONTRADICT THE MESSAGE OF CHRIST.if you cant ,then you are a lier and the father(satan) of it. Even christianity has many set, you dont see christians killing one another , do you? The thread title "the lying deity " was pointing to one discussion , did allah empower jesus to perform miracle ? No answer , because if you say yes, then you are automatically saying Allah lied. Am still Waiting for the thread on sacrifice. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Rilwayne001: 3:10pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212:I never call myself Mr. intelligent, I don't praise myself, people like paul do it, he praises himself even when the OT condemn such action. Go and read ur bible What do you understand by freewill?Freewill is spontenous i.e proceeding from natural feeling or native tendency without external constraint... Now my question to you here is that, Did you choose to be protestant out of freewill? Why didnt you choose to be catholic, why? Can you love God without freewill?The meaning of freewill already answers your question Jesus say his teaching will cause division among family,isn't christianity family? Jesus can never said the above because he'll automatically contradicts himself when he said: Luke 11:17 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them: "Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined , and a house divided against itself will fall . When he knows that a family divided will fall, then how do you expect him to teach or bring division? please answer my question let me explain to you for the last time. Try to comprehend my explanations, dont just copy and paste Jesus say because of his teaching many will disagree, what dose this mean?this is were the root of division start, Jesus never said the above, why are you lying? I've given you aa lot of precept but you remain cantankerous infact micah say the same thing in: Why dont you read the context Jesus was not talking about outsider, but He is talking about brethren between christianity. Read Luke 11:17, Matt 18:18, and 1cor. 1:10 and read all your comments then tell me who is lying between you all. Even christianity has many set, you dont see christians killing one another , do you? Kindly search 30years war on wikipedia and tell me what is all about The thread title "the lying deity " was pointing to one discussion , did allah empower jesus to perform miracle ? No answer , because if you say yes, then you are automatically saying Allah lied. Am still Waiting for the thread on sacrifice. Time will tell |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 3:42pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:according to you "there are 41 00000 christians sect" what the caused of this? Is it not because of doctrin? Which doctrin? The doctrine of jesus christ. Now, is it not because of jesus teaching that caused this division ?you are taking this discussion backwards. You accused me of lying, i challenge you to provide were i lied, you are asking me to help you do it, are you lazy? So now paul teaching dose not contradict jesus own, it's me. May God forgive your lies. Let me repeat myself again, show me were christians kill them self NOWADAYS like the muslims do today? |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by PastorAIO: 10:55am On Nov 22, 2014 |
malvisguy212: The fact of the matter is that People killing themselves is NOT a matter of religion but a matter of geopolitics. If it was a matter of religion then muslims everywhere at all times would be killing themselves or not. And likewise Christians everywhere at all times would either be killing themselves or not. Malvisguy's insistence on reference to 'NOWADAYS' rather than over the course of history of religion is a clear giveaway that the situation he is referring to is due to the current geopolitical set up, and not due to any religion as such. Politics makes much use of religion. For instance, what does the message of christianity have to do with the Liberation Theology of the African American civil rights movement? When Martin Luther King says that 'I've been to the mountaintop and I've seen the promised land', he is not talking about Canaan. He was using religious rhetoric to make a political point. 1 Like |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by PastorAIO: 11:01am On Nov 22, 2014 |
I think first and foremost it would help if you could tell us what Religion is supposed to do. When we know that we can then compare and contrast. and we can see which religions get us the best results. malvisguy212: |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 11:00pm On Nov 22, 2014 |
PastorAIO:did you read the op? God design the moral law that mankind can live in peace with one another, ,the physical law of man did not contradict the moral law, any religion that his teaching contradict this two law are not from God. All religion teaches that salvation can be attained by human effort(good deed)your good deed can saved you,example, if a man killed your loved one and he was arrested,only,but on the day of his judgment, the judge consider his Good deed and free'd him, can you called the judge a good judge?. christianity teaches that salvation is the free gift of God(romans 6:23) , your good deed cannot saved you, you are saved by the mercy of God,example, if you are a bad man and you truly repent but the next day you die, the bad things you do cannot be counted because you genuely repent and God forgive you bible say "loved cover a multitude of sin". |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Weah96: 12:41am On Nov 23, 2014 |
malvisguy212: If good deeds don't save you, then what does? Can you repent today and backslide tomorrow, since good deeds don't matter in the salvation of your soul? |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by malvisguy212: 5:21am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Weah96:did you read the example i gave about good deed?"if a man killed your loved one and he was arrested, but on the day of his judgment, the judge consider his Good deed and free'd him, can you called the judge a good judge?" if you genuely repent today, and tomorrow you died,God will saved you, because salvation is the mercy of God in christ jesus.ephesians 2:8-9.8 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast." christ has already do the finishing work. It is either christianity is false and all other religion is right(which is impossible because all religion cannot lead to the same God) or christianity is right and all other are wrong. |
Re: All Religions Lead To God? Can One Discern The True Religion? by Weah96: 7:15am On Nov 23, 2014 |
malvisguy212: A judge who allows a murderer to walk free is a human, not an omnipotent deity whose will is absolute. Who are you to question God, if he is what you say he is? You cannot judge the judge. |
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