agaugust:


Master Blaster of the week
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*bows and collects the award*,i'm honoured mœnsuèr agaugust.lol.

agaugust:


Cuban army has no good soldiers, they used teenage conscripts to defeat South Africa, Cuba had ZERO war experience until they met SADF and used your country to make history.

Nigerian navy is the force controlling Angolan waters with our super long range radars, satellite, and OPVs.

South African navy is waiting till 2015 hoping and dreaming to use Frigates as OPV and ruin the engines with over-work while abandoning South Africa's 3,500 km long coastline.

SANDF is still afraid of Seleka till today
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Yeah cuba had no war experience other than a civil war, a US funded invasion and supporting commie rebels across the world. And you do know most of the SA solders where teenage conscripts to.

We switched to the warriors for ops copper some time ago. Patrolling our coast line is actual the job of the Police water wing, DAFF and parks serves. Unless a civilian boat enters a restricted area we cant do nothing. We a navy not a coast guard. Since there are no pirates in SA there is no job for the Navy in SA. when we do patrol we carry cops to do the actual boarding's since it there justricstions.

You mean Seleka is still scared of the SA army. Remember they requested the cease fire not us.

agaugust:


I see one Hawk, one Gripen, one targeting pod....for the Gripen, unless you can prove SAAF imported Hawk compatible targeting pods because the ones for Gripen cannot work with the Hawk due to software incompatibility.

I need proof of Hawk targeting pod
.

The hawk uses the Vicon 18-601E

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/82/vicon-18-601e

agaugust:


I see one Hawk, one Gripen, one targeting pod....for the Gripen, unless you can prove SAAF imported Hawk compatible targeting pods because the ones for Gripen cannot work with the Hawk due to software incompatibility.

I need proof of Hawk targeting pod
.

I can't believe that you can be this naive, so stupidd. By the way, @Agaugust would you tell me where have you schooled because I don't think Nigerian education system can ever produce such a product.

zaandrew:
Seleka rebels that though both out numbered us and out gunned us suffered heavy losses.Rhino poachers are still mostly a SANPARK issue,SANDF only helps out..Cuba sent there best solders

more stories for the gods.lets make an analysis of your pathetic opinion:
(a) in your words you said "seleka rebels OUTNUMBERED and OUTGUNNED you{the SANDF}",this means;
(i) your troops went ill-equipped into a warzone 'to train a foreign defence force',without even having means of protecting themselves.
(ii) your troops went into a warzone without any strategy or planning,as they were easily ambushed,"outnumbered" and "outgunned"
(iii) seleka rebels who have neither training nor experience overpowered you
(iv) seleka had no;tanks,rocket launchers,missiles,etc yet they "outgunned" you
(b) that the SANDF is involved in securing rhinos shows thats its a threat to national security
(c) cuba had no trained and experienced army,so they had no "best" to send to angola,they only sent recruits

agaugust:


I see one Hawk, one Gripen, one targeting pod....for the Gripen, unless you can prove SAAF imported Hawk compatible targeting pods because the ones for Gripen cannot work with the Hawk due to software incompatibility.

I need proof of Hawk targeting pod
.

I can't believe that you can be this naive, so stupidd. By the way, @Agaugust would you tell me where have you schooled because I don't think Nigerian education system can ever produce such a product in you.

EVarn:
more stories for the gods.lets make an analysis of your pathetic opinion:
(a) in your words you said "seleka rebels OUTNUMBERED and OUTGUNNED you{the SANDF}",this means;
(i) your troops went ill-equipped into a warzone 'to train a foreign defence force',without even having means of protecting themselves.
(ii) your troops went into a warzone without any strategy or planning,as they were easily ambushed,"outnumbered" and "outgunned"
(iii) seleka rebels who have neither training nor experience overpowered you
(iv) seleka had no;tanks,rocket launchers,missiles,etc yet they "outgunned" you
(b) that the SANDF is involved in securing rhinos shows thats its a threat to national security
(c) cuba had no trained and experienced army,so they had no "best" to send to angola,they only sent recruits

I stand to correct you. Our mission in CAR was not peacekeeping in nature. It was there to transfer necessary military skills and to establish a professional and well trained force in CAR. There were no any necessity to carry heavy weapons since France were already legally entrusted to carry out such duties. France controlled everything that gained access into the Airport as well as anything that was to leave the country. France were not cooperating with us at all and seemingly jealously was striking them hard. They were not in support of Bozize and were wondering how could the President ever offer such a contract of training his troops to SA. They secretly supported Djotodia and his forces.


Despite all these, we still managed to hold on to our stance and defeat Seleka at their own turf to the level of raising the white flag in attempt to negotiate for a cease fire. Seleka were heavily armed as a group but individually that was not the case. Most of them ran out of ammunition prematurely and started to scream for their mothers as the heat was activated on their side. They were falling like grapes on the vine that experienced a sudden shock. You could hear screams just miles away as rockets were falling on them like rain. It was really sad.

zaandrew:


shows just how miss informed you are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS

Satlites are some of the worst means since they only spend a brief time over there target area. They useless in tactical needs.

Sure they can, if the satlite is over that area at that time of day meaning the rest of the area is not being watched and rember SA has satlite tracking stations. So we will know where the blind spots are.

And that information is useless, why do you think GPS is used against static targets, I will give you a hint, it the word static.

SAAF Hawks where integrated with the same pods used on the cheeta C.

Other than or range of mobil radars. Any case your ATRs have no means to prosecute targets and there comms can be jammed making them useless. They can see but that is all, And using that radar gives away there position to.

And your point is what? could any of those guys deploy weapons to shoot back at the alpha jets?

And NAF spends there days shooting at pic up trucks where SAAF spends there time training to fight a war vs a actual threat.

Nope, NAF was the one fighting with Alpha jets against real targets that can retaliate, Liberian, Sierra Leonean, and Boko Haram deadly ZSU-23-4 four barrelled anti-aircraft artillery.

SAAF Hawk jets have NEVER seen battle since 8 years ago you bought them, all your pilots do is attack stones and sand in the name of training, why don't you send SAAF to attack rebels that have air defense artillery 23mm caliber in close range air support in a mixed up battle space where infantry and armoured vehicles of both sides are interlocked in hand to hand combat?


Satellites are not good only because South Africa has none. What would you guys say if it was the other way round and South Africa has satellites and Nigeria has none? What would you say then? You would say SANDF = NATO + USA + EU + RUSSIA

Your ground radar range is useless beyond 20 km because of obstructions, ground clutter, false-wrong targets, buildings, civilian vehicles, industrial structures, etc.

ATR-42 of NAF will detect SANDF ground radar and all army equipment 330km away, then NAF will give your positions to NA and we pounce on SANDF with 660 artillery guns 18km to 42km away and with your army will regret the day they were born by their mothers

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mzilakazi:
I stand to correct you.Our mission in CAR was not peacekeeping in nature.It was there to transfer necessary military skills and to establish a professional and well trained force in CAR.There were no any necessity to carry heavy weapons since France were already legally entrusted to carry out such duties.France were not cooperating with us at all and seemingly jealously was striking them hard.They were not in support of Bozize and were wondering how could the President ever offer such a contract of training his troops to SA.They secretly supported Djotodia and his forces.

how can any organized and disciplined military go into a warzone without arming themselves against threats?,how can your government send troops into a warzone without means to protect themselves?,did you expect CAR government troops who couldnt protect themselves from a ragtag rebel group to protect you?,did you expect france to protect you?,france be damned,you guys made a big military blunder in CAR.

paniki,have you come panicking to this thread today?.lol.

EVarn:
how can any organized and disciplined military go into a warzone without arming themselves against threats?,how can your government send troops into a warzone without means to protect themselves?,did you expect CAR government troops who couldnt protect themselves from a ragtag rebel group to protect you?,did you expect france to protect you?,france be damned,you guys made a big military blunder in CAR.

Despite all that, we still managed to hold on to
our stance and defeat Seleka at their own turf to
the level of raising the white flag in attempt to
negotiate for a cease fire. Seleka were heavily
armed as a group but individually that was not
the case. Most of them ran out of ammunition
prematurely and started to scream for their
mothers as the heat was activated on their side.
They were falling like grapes on the vine that
experienced a sudden shock. You could hear their
screams just miles away as rockets were falling
on them like rain (a fog for that matter). It was really sad.

agaugust:


Satellites are not good only because South Africa has none. What would you guys say if it was the other way round and South Africa has satellites and Nigeria has none? What would you say then? You would say SANDF = NATO + USA + EU + RUSSIA

Your ground radar range is useless beyond 20 km because of obstructions, ground clutter, false-wrong targets, buildings, civilian vehicles, industrial structures, etc.

ATR-42 of NAF will detect SANDF ground radar and all army equipment, then. NAF will give your positions to NA and we pounce on SANDF with 660 artillery guns 18km to 42km away and with your army will regret the day they were born by their mothers

.

My friend I have been in the force long enough to know that satellites do not help you to win the war at all. They are just as useless as a piece of junk lingering in space. An enemy will brash you off the face of earth with your spy satellites. However, I just want to pass this moemish a bit and spare some thoughts to ask you what do you understand about GPS. You've commented about it earlier and what did you say it is again?

zaandrew:


Yeah cuba had no war experience other than a civil war, a US funded invasion and supporting commie rebels across the world. And you do know most of the SA solders where teenage conscripts to.

stop telling lies mister !

Cuba had no war experience like Lesotho, the Cuban revolution of 1950s old times was a few hundred men with rifles overthrowing a bad government. The teenage Cuban girls that defeated South African army were not even born in 1950 era.


Bay of Pigs was a US cash funded coup plotters invasion of about 200 men trying to overthrow government of Cuba in about 72 hour kind of coup, NO SINGLE USA soldier entered Cuba.

South African army had mature men in SADF and UNITA with a lot of experience of war in Namibia. Remember your boasting about SADF war experience from World War II to Korean war.

Cuban teenage girl soldiers knew nothing about war until they used South Africa as their first war and first victory
.

agaugust:



Nope, NAF was the one fighting with Alpha jets against real targets that can retaliate, Liberian, Sierra Leonean, and Boko Haram deadly ZSU-23-4 four barrelled anti-aircraft artillery.

SAAF Hawk jets have NEVER seen battle since 8 years ago you bought them, all your pilots do is attack stones and sand in the name of training, why don't you send SAAF to attack rebels that have air defense artillery 23mm caliber in close range air support in a mixed up battle space where infantry and armoured vehicles of both sides are interlocked in hand to hand combat?


Satellites are not good only because South Africa has none. What would you guys say if it was the other way round and South Africa has satellites and Nigeria has none? What would you say then? You would say SANDF = NATO + USA + EU + RUSSIA

Your ground radar range is useless beyond 20 km because of obstructions, ground clutter, false-wrong targets, buildings, civilian vehicles, industrial structures, etc.

ATR-42 of NAF will detect SANDF ground radar and all army equipment 330km away, then NAF will give your positions to NA and we pounce on SANDF with 660 artillery guns 18km to 42km away and with your army will regret the day they were born by their mothers

.

Really? like the Cubans and Angolans did not have any of those? And a rang of SAMs, Fighter jets and a extensive radar coverage. And what AAA does does BH, what have your NAF pilots had to fight.


Satlites are good, but they not the be all end all you think they are. And SA is buying a really Spy sate, not some commercial off the shelf sat Nigeria has.

Really, you do know that you only need to place it in the right locations and then the range is 500km again

you mean 18 to 30km away and they will be pounce on by longer ranged guns and wiped out long before you guns can do any thing, while your presses ATR will be shot down by gripens.

agaugust:


stop telling lies mister !

Cuba had no war experience like Lesotho, the Cuban revolution of 1950s old times was a few hundred men with rifles overthrowing a bad government. The teenage Cuban girls that defeated South African army were not even born in 1950 era.


Bay of Pigs was a US cash funded coup plotters invasion of about 200 men trying to overthrow government of Cuba in about 72 hour kind of coup, NO SINGLE USA soldier entered Cuba.

South African army had mature men in SADF and UNITA with a lot of experience of war in Namibia. Remember your boasting about SADF war experience from World War II to Korean war.

Yep, that means they had tradition, but the solders where new.

Cuban teenage girl soldiers knew nothing about war until they used South Africa as their first war and first victory
.

And what experience did the SA solders who killed thousands of Cubans have. Remember SA had been at peace for has long and did not start there military expansion until the 1970s

I did not say invasion, I said US funded invasion. Learn to read you dip shiit slowpoke

agaugust:


stop telling lies mister !

Cuba had no war experience like Lesotho, the Cuban revolution of 1950s old times was a few hundred men with rifles overthrowing a bad government. The teenage Cuban girls that defeated South African army were not even born in 1950 era.


Bay of Pigs was a US cash funded coup plotters invasion of about 200 men trying to overthrow government of Cuba in about 72 hour kind of coup, NO SINGLE USA soldier entered Cuba.

South African army had mature men in SADF and UNITA with a lot of experience of war in Namibia. Remember your boasting about SADF war experience from World War II to Korean war.

Cuban teenage girl soldiers knew nothing about war until they used South Africa as their first war and first victory
.

Man you are really bad in every subject. First it was science and now it's history. I really do not know what kind of a jerk are you.

Well, I really don't know who told you that SADF lost to the Cubans because that source would be gashing out propaganda. I know that the ANC has also campaigned many a times trolling such lies to the mass of this country to think that they defeated SA in alliance with Russia and Cuba. Let me tell you those are just lies with capital letters.


Cuba during the epoch of the bush war had never gone passed Namibia to put the SA forces on the edge. They were merely defensive while SA was offensive most of the time. SA, then experienced massive pressure from the inside as well as to the peripheral arena because of their policy of segregation. It was really very tiresome and fatiguing to deal with such forces at the same time and as years gone by it started to be financially straining. They couldn't cope to feed the bill anymore.

No country in the world had ever managed to survive the conditions under which SA found itself in. From international sanctions and internal riots by oppressed citizens especially school children to the bush war in Angola. Despite all the challenges, SA managed to build nuclear warheads and many indigenously made weaponry following the sanctions to procure arms. That was the kick start of SA defence industry, that they build in secret collaboration with Israel, yet that remain speculation to date.

How could SA have lost when they secretly planned to drop a nuclear warhead in Angola that could have killed Cubans and millions of Angolan citizens. A conspiracy which many of them did not support to the inch. When Mr De Klerk came into power he decided to end it all through negotiations and hand Namibia its freedom. So, was that your definition of defeat or a solution?

Then, so if SA was in the hands of classical monsters like Verwoed and John Vorster during the hit up of that battle. Surely, we could have experienced the second Hiroshima incident, just in a space of few years from the second world war.

mzilakazi:

Despite all that,we still managed to hold on to
our stance and defeat Seleka at their own turf to
the level of raising the white flag in attempt to
negotiate for a cease fire. Seleka were heavily
armed as a group but individually that was not
the case. Most of them ran out of ammunition
prematurely and started to scream for their
mothers as the heat was activated on their side.
They were falling like grapes on the vine that
experienced a sudden shock. You could hear their
screams just miles away as rockets were falling
on them like rain (a fog for that matter). It was really sad.

more nonsense falling from your smooth black zulu a$ss.what "heavy arms" did seleka possess?,did they possess jet,missiles,tanks,atillery?,what type of assault rifles did they use?,what type of bullets did they use?,did they use armour piecer bullets?....and you come here bragging of defeating a pancake rebel group!,even the police would take one look at seleka rebels,and fall down laughing.

EVarn:
more nonsense falling from your smooth black zulu a$ss.what "heavy arms" did seleka possess?,did they possess jet,missiles,tanks,atillery?,what type of assault rifles did they use?,what type of bullets did they use?,did they use armour piecer bullets?....and you come here bragging of defeating a pancake rebel group!,even the police would take one look at seleka rebels,and fall down laughing.

Of course, they were heavily armed. Each rebel was armed with AK47s and approximately five-six rounds on the magazine. Some, were rampaging around with much dreaded rebel worthy RPGs. How could rebels or Islamic militants in the world ever possess a fighter jets and missiles? Where on mother earth will they acquire pilots to fly them since most of them are just pathetic and reckless school dropouts. With what skill will they utilise to operate missiles and more complex weapons? I call unto you to think before you ever think of tapping your fingers on your keyboard.

EVarn:
more nonsense falling from your smooth black zulu a$ss.what "heavy arms" did seleka possess?,did they possess jet,missiles,tanks,atillery?,what type of assault rifles did they use?,what type of bullets did they use?,did they use armour piecer bullets?....and you come here bragging of defeating a pancake rebel group!,even the police would take one look at seleka rebels,and fall down laughing.

Seleka had AKs, PKMs, 12.7mm MGs, 14,5mm MGs, 23mm guns, 30mm MGLs 105mm reciols rifels, mortas and all in far large numbers than SA. SA had 1 companies worth of small arms a compost support commpany with 12.7mm MGs and 81mm Mortas but not enough ammo to fight the battel alone. They then had the SF hornets but they where again limmted with Ammo for the heavy wepaons. Farther more all SANDF cassulties where from one ambush when 2 rebel forces hit the SA forces at a T juncstion in the town.

All so by limted ammo I mean 12000 12.7mm round 288 107mm rockets and 800 81mm morta bombs. SA forces carried a lot more ammo than your nigerian solders. And the SA solders where not there to fight and thought that they where under stocked. If the SA forces had just doubel the force there, enough ammo and APCs with some air support from choppers they could easly of held the town alone. As it was SA had only enough to stop the rebels on one of there 2 lines of advance.

mzilakazi:

Of course,they were heavily armed.Each rebel was armed with AK47s and approximately five-six rounds on the magazine.Some,were rampaging around with much dreaded rebel worthy RPGs.How could rebels or Islamic militants in the world ever possess a fighter jets and missiles?Where on mother earth will they acquire pilots to fly them since most of them are just pathetic and reckless school dropouts.With what skill will they utilise to operate missiles and more complex weapons?

more nonsense falling from your already red battered anus.so brandishing half-clogged AK47s equals being heavily armed?,you arent even ashamed to admit that the rebels only had about 5-6 rounds of cheap iron bullets that can be blocked with a plastic spoon?,i didnt say that the rebels had jets,i only asked whether they flew jets when you claimed they were "heavily armed".for your information,boko haram has ground-to-air anti aircraft missiles.terrorist can be trained to wield heavy weapons.try again.

andrewza:

Seleka had AKs, PKMs, 12.7mm MGs, 14,5mm MGs, 23mm guns, 30mm MGLs 105mm reciols rifels, mortas and all in far large numbers than SA. SA had 1 companies worth of small arms a compost support commpany with 12.7mm MGs and 81mm Mortas but not enough ammo to fight the battel alone. They then had the SF hornets but they where again limmted with Ammo for the heavy wepaons.All so by limted ammo I mean 12000 12.7mm round 288 107mm rockets and 800 81mm morta bombs.

hey andrewza,have you eaten this evening?.their is nothing heavy about all those weapons,any self respecting robbery gang would have all those weapons you mentioned,liberian rebels had much more than those,yet they were crushed by the NA in weeks.why are you justifying the mediocrity of your army by saying "they didnt go to CAR to fight"?,arent soldiers meant to be always prepared?,how can you strutt into a warzone without arming yourself against potential aggression?....the SANDF is a disgrace.

EVarn:
hey andrewza,have you eaten this evening?.their is nothing heavy about all those weapons,any self respecting robbery gang would have all those weapons you mentioned,liberian rebels had much more than those,yet they were crushed by the NA in weeks.why are you justifying the mediocrity of your army by saying "they didnt go to CAR to fight"?,arent soldiers meant to be always prepared?,how can you strutt into a warzone without arming yourself against potential aggression?....the SANDF is a disgrace.

I did not say it was heavy. I said they out gunned us. Big diffrence.

When ECOMOG whent in to SL they had a Large force. SA had just over 200 fighting the entire selelka force alone.

They did go there preaperd to fight. The fact they killed arround 1000 rebels proofs that. The problem was they never enterd a warzone. When SA arrvide the region was peacfull and a large regional milltary force was in the area. When the things heated UP the ANC turned down the request for increasing the force there. This was becaue of purly politcal resoans.

EVarn:
more nonsense falling from your already red battered anus.so brandishing half-clogged AK47s equals being heavily armed?,you arent even ashamed to admit that the rebels only had about 5-6 rounds of cheap iron bullets that can be blocked with a plastic spoon?,i didnt say that the rebels had jets,i only asked whether they flew jets when you claimed they were "heavily armed".for your information,boko haram has ground-to-air anti aircraft missiles.terrorist can be trained to wield heavy weapons.try again.

Your English is really hurting my ears, anyway, I would take it as west African based English. I would really wonder where in this whole world would BH get money to buy the most expensive masterpiece in the name of surface to air missiles or better known as SAMs. What arms company and bank would ever process and finance their deal to amass such weapons of mass destruction. Please!! don't involve yourself in any discourse which is much bigger than your frame of understanding. Military talks are not for the likes of you, the faint hearted with a very limited knowledge of weapons. In future, you should never confuse air defence artillery guns for missiles. That was just a friendly lecturing from a noble friend.

andrewza:

I did not say it was heavy. I said they out gunned us. Big diffrence.
When ECOMOG whent in to SL they had a Large force. SA had just over 200 fighting the entire selelka force alone.
They did go there preaperd to fight. The fact they killed arround 1000 rebels proofs that. The problem was they never enterd a warzone. When SA arrvide the region was peacfull and a large regional milltary force was in the area. When the things heated UP the ANC turned down the request for increasing the force there. This was becaue of purly politcal resoans.

SA had 200 soldiers facing against thousand of poorly armed,untrained,kwashiokor infested and inexperienced rebels,yet you were ambushed at a T "junction" and ambushed again at the base axis.why are you shifting goalpost?,earlier you said that your troops were "outmatched","outgunned" and unprepared for a fight,now you are saying they went into CAR prepared to fight.catfish.

mzilakazi:

I would really wonder where in this whole world would BH get money to buy the most expensive masterpiece in the name of surface to air missiles or better known as SAMs.Please!! don't involve yourself in any discourse which is much bigger than your frame of understanding. Military talks are not for the likes of you, the faint hearted with a very limited knowledge of weapons.In future, you should never confuse air defence artillery guns for missiles.

whats this cucumber saying?,i'm extremely busy tonight{friday night things},so i dont have the concentration needed to tackle your foolishness.boko haram shoot down aircraft,not only using anti-aircraft guns,but rocket launchers.dont expose your ignorance in public,how can you even ask how boko haram gets funded?,how do terrorist get funds?,how do they get weapons?.i'm disappointed at your low IQ.you know nothing mzilakazi snow,if you understand how sophisticated these terrorists are,you wouldnt spout trash.

EVarn:
hey andrewza,have you eaten this evening?.their is nothing heavy about all those weapons,any self respecting robbery gang would have all those weapons you mentioned,liberian rebels had much more than those,yet they were crushed by the NA in weeks.why are you justifying the mediocrity of your army by saying "they didnt go to CAR to fight"?,arent soldiers meant to be always prepared?,how can you strutt into a warzone without arming yourself against potential aggression?....the SANDF is a disgrace.

You bring everything about the past and that really freshen up my mind again. At one stage when the battle was high, almost thinking that I was gonna lose it out given the load of trucks heading to us fully packed with rebels. I quickly took out my binoculars and immediately studied their armament. I realised in no time they were up for a fight and I prepared my mind for what was about to happen. They threw everything at us from mortars to RPGs indiscriminately without realising their ammunition were about to tell the story.

Then, we all looked on with binoculars again and immediately we realised that some were ran out of gas and that's when we started to launch our offensive by throwing everything on them. They started to run in disarray and before me there were some who could make a company in number. We flushed all of them until we heard all kinds of screams some of which I just passed out of mercy.

EVarn:
whats this cucumber saying?,i'm extremely busy tonight{friday night things},so i dont have the concentration needed to tackle your foolishness.boko haram shoot down aircraft,not only using anti-aircraft guns,but rocket launchers.dont expose your ignorance in public,how can you even ask how boko haram gets funded?,how do terrorist get funds?,how do they get weapons?.i'm disappointed at your low IQ.you know nothing mzilakazi snow,if you understand how sophisticated these terrorists are,you wouldnt spout trash.

Specifically, I am referring to missiles. Chief, your military wouldn't be able to stand BH for a minute if they were indeed in possession of such a massive firepower.

EVarn:
SA had 200 soldiers facing against thousand of poorly armed,untrained,kwashiokor infested and inexperienced rebels,yet you were ambushed at a T "junction" and ambushed again at the base axis.why are you shifting goalpost?,earlier you said that your troops were "outmatched","outgunned" and unprepared for a fight,now you are saying they went into CAR prepared to fight.catfish.

The seleka rebels where made up of trained battel harned mercs from Chad and Sudan and ex CAR army. The seleka officer who orginised the cease fire was trained by the South African Army. Seleka was all so better armerd than the averge nigerian solder and far more motivated to. In fact on Friday the rebels put in place a perft L ambush, somthing no poorly trained force could pull of. There are a number of posts here showing seleka and how they looked, and they looked better than the Nigerian army.

I never shited the goal post SA was outnumberd and outgunned. They then ambushed the SA solders. When the SA solders where ambushed they all so had no more ammo for there 12.7mm MGs or mortas. So it was solders with small arms traveling in soft skin cars hit with crew serves wepaons from all direcstions. With all that Seleka could only kill 13 on the spot with the rest of the company being able to extract them selfs with there wounded. Remember it was now small arms vs 23mm AAA.

IF the SA forces had been the typcal Nigerian army force they would have run out of ammo on friday and been over run. By sunday the rebels grew tired of fighting us so called for a truce.

mzilakazi:

At one stage when the battle was high almost thinking that I was gonna lose it out given the load of trucks heading to us fully packed with rebels.I quickly took out my binoculars and immediately studied their armament. I realised in no time they were up for a fight and I prepared my mind for what was about to happen.They threw everything at us from mortars to RPGs indiscriminately without realising their ammunition were about to tell the story.Then, we all looked on with binoculars again and immediately we realised that some were ran out of gas and that's when we started to launch our offensive by throwing everything on them.

*smiles*,so many english blunders love,lol.were you the captain of your squad?,you guys stood at fixed point while rebels "threw everything at you"?,what military school trained you?,where were you,for your binoculars to get a clear view of rebels without being targeted?.you tell tales of a police and thief scenario.

mzilakazi:


Specifically, I am referring to missiles. Chief, your military wouldn't be able to stand BH for a minute if they were indeed in possession of such a massive firepower.

were we talking about heavy missile in the first place,cant you read?,and who told you that we cant stand "heavy firepower"?.clown.

EVarn:
*smiles*,so many english blunders love,lol.were you the captain of your squad?,you guys stood at fixed point while rebels "threw everything at you"?,what military school trained you?,where were you,for your binoculars to get a clear view of rebels without being targeted?.you tell tales of a police and thief scenario.

Nope, we took cover. We are professional and well trained in reinforcing our structures against mortar attacks. Of course, we were wise enough to have bought ourselves most advanced binoculars privately. I can see you clearly from 2km away.

EVarn:
were we talking about heavy missile in the first place,cant you read?,and who told you that we cant stand "heavy firepower"?.clown.

In that case, go and ask your troops who fled to Cameroon twice and Chad respectively, why they couldn't stand hellfire from the militants.