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Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 7:04pm On Nov 21, 2014
A caricatured picture of Jonathan kneeling down in Church complete with mocking text is circulated in social media by no other person than a prominent opposition figure. The joke if any was gleefully shared and retwitted among mainly northern Muslims who delighted at El Rufai's vulgar and distasteful attempt at making a joke. The backlash to this were not as the case would have been if it were a Muslim President praying in a mosque but was limited to verbal condemnation only.

Now the issue at hand is that we have had more Muslim presidents and who were exclusively from the north being pictured or televised worshiping in the mosque but no single critism from Christians was ever heard.

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Another disturbing fact is how so many northerners and prominent opposition figures view Jonathan's church going as being sectarian in nature even though past Muslim leaders were free to worship openly for some reason a Christian President kneeling down worshiping in church is seen as sectarian. Even though this administration has not introduced any discriminatory policy or sidelined the Muslim community they still accuse him of being sectarian because he openly practiced his religion freely as enshrined in the constitution.

Speaking of constitutions, Nigeria is the only Nation that operates two sets of laws; the constitution of the Federal Republlc and that of the Islamic legal code, Sharia. If this is not sectarian then I don't know what to call it.

The northern leaders did not consider other minority religions when they enacted Sharia law and the fallout riots that engulfed their region.. Even Boko Haram are fighting to forcefully impose Sharia law over the polity but to them this is not the issue but the fact that President Jonathan knelt down to worship in Church is unbecoming.

Jonathan is also accused of being to open with his religion by going on pilgrimage to Israel. The same thing every single Muslim ex president and Governor, and former government officials like El Rufai are guilty of complete with full government subsidy.

But by far the most annoying thing about Jonathn's govt is that this is the first head of state to have any direct dealing with Isreal.
To the north Isreal is an enemy. Why? Because their Arab lords are currently at war with Isreal. Jonathan's friendship with Isreal is causing a diplomatic row between Nigeria and Arab countries like Saudi Arabi who traditionally relied on our support on the Palestinian cause than with that of the zionists.

According to the Muslim north, a relationship to Isreal is an embarrassment to them as Muslims. Consider this for a second. Saudi Arabia that they desperately want to keep as our friends will not admitt half of our population into their country based on the fact that they are not Muslims. This same Saudi has nothing to offer us or the rest of the world other than oil which we have as well but a nation like Isreal with the highest noble peace prize in all disciplines is to be considered an enemy.

The fact remains that the north for all her accusations on Jonathan being sectarian reminds me of the proverb of picking specks from another man's eyes when one has a log firmly wedged in his.

Hypocrites.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by Sirkris(m): 7:28pm On Nov 21, 2014
it is well with the spirit and soul of mr president (gej). I appreciate him, you will return as our president again.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 7:30pm On Nov 21, 2014
Sirkris:
it is well with the spirit and soul of mr president (gej). I appreciate him, you will return as our president again.

The forces of darkness will not prevail.

The alliance based on intolerance, hate, and jealousy will crumble before their very eyes.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by klodike(m): 7:34pm On Nov 21, 2014
This we all know. But my annoyance with GEJ is that he is making it easy for himself to be target. Fortunately for him and unfortunately for Nigeria, the opposition APC in particular has not got what it takes to substitute this gentleman. Rather they are a coalition of enemies of Jonathan.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by Horus(m): 7:41pm On Nov 21, 2014
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Goodluck Jonathan converted to Judaism or Zionism?
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 7:41pm On Nov 21, 2014
klodike:
This we all know. But my annoyance with GEJ is that he is making it easy for himself to be target. Fortunately for him and unfortunately for Nigeria, the opposition APC in particular has not got what it takes to substitute this gentleman. Rather they are a coalition of enemies of Jonathan.

There is nothing Jonathan can do. The northern polity and politics is based on Islamic customs and ideology.

What do you think the Sultanate and Emirships are all about? These are Islamic institutions of governance.

The fabric of northern politics is tied and dyed in Islam.

First the said they must have sharia law. We gave them. Then they came with Islamic banking. Now they are asking for the presidency and are working night and day, utilizing every means possible to achieve this. Their demand for a power shift back to the north is not complete without a northern Muslim that is why we are witnessing only northern Muslims running for presidency.

Where are the Christian northerners?

The average northern Muslim will rather vote for an ibo man than have a kafir in the north rule them.

Look at Kaduna for example which had a Christian by default as governor, at his death Muslims in Kaduna jubilated on the streets.

This of course is enshrined in Islamic doctrine which forbides having a non Muslim rule over them.

The drama in the house is apparently looking more bi partisan with northern Muslims irrespective of party affiliation supporting Tambuwal.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 7:47pm On Nov 21, 2014
Horus:


Goodluck Jonathan converted to Judaism or Zionism?

So did Obama.

It is a Jewish tradition to host heads of states at their holiest site which once was off limits in ancient times to Gentiles

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LFJ: 8:26pm On Nov 21, 2014
So the hatred for Jonathan is no longer because he is an ijaw man, it is now because of his religion. Well that is ur opinion, my is different, the hatred for Jonathan is because Jonathan is a good representation of what failure represent. Your type accuse other people of what you are guilty of. I can't imagine what people of your type will say if it Buhari that go to the mosque and knee down in the front of one alfa. You are the hypocrite here.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by omokab: 8:26pm On Nov 21, 2014
Mr op you are the one putting all this on religion matters.A bigot like you will like to confuse people rather than say the truth.we have many muslim scholars in the North that no matter how they will vote for jonathan.And we also have many christains that will never vote for jonathan despite the fact that he is a christain.Just for your information people of nigeria were now wise to the extent that you can't confuse them with religion but at the same time you can still get some religion fools that their own is either being a muslim or a christain will never see good thing about others religion.At least you know many muslim in Jonathans govt that they are ready to die for jonathan to return as a president of Nigeria come 2015.I have a little advice for you use any other means to campain for jonathan but desist from religion matter because you will account for all your statement on the day of judgement.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 8:31pm On Nov 21, 2014
LFJ:
So the hatred for Jonathan is no longer because he is an ijaw man, it is now because of his religion. Well that is ur opinion, my is different, the hatred for Jonathan is because Jonathan is a good representation of what failure represent. Your type accuse other people of what you are guilty of. I can't imagine what people of your type will say if it Buhari that go to the mosque and knee down in the front of one alfa. You are the hypocrite here.

You are obviously not making any sense and your only reason here is to state that Jonathan. Is a failure.

I am not here to influence you. Your vote is your personal choice. I am only here to state facts.

Keep blaming Jonathan as a failure because to be honest nothing good can come out of Jonathan from your side.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by focus7: 8:31pm On Nov 21, 2014
You are making a mistake, many of us who wants Jonathan out are christians. Taking it from the religion angle that u are coming from, I will say we wants Jonathan out because he has betrayed christianity, he has failed to represent what christianity stand for which is integrity and justice. It is a shame to call Jonathan a christian because he has represented more evil than should be expected, it seems as though Jonathan now attends tutorial for evil practices.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 8:33pm On Nov 21, 2014
omokab:
.we have many muslim scholars in the North that no matter how they will vote for jonathan.And we also have many christains that will never vote for jonathan despite the fact that he is a christain.

Citation required.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 8:34pm On Nov 21, 2014
focus7:
You are making a mistake, many of us who wants Jonathan out are christians. .

Speculative and generalization

Again citation required.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LFJ: 8:49pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


You are obviously not making any sense and your only reason here is to state that Jonathan. Is a failure.

I am not here to influence you. Your vote is your personal choice. I am only here to state facts.

Keep blaming Jonathan as a failure because to be honest nothing good can come out of Jonathan from your side.


You don't need to be unnecessarily emotional over this issue. I am just saying the fact. Not until now that you are introducing another dimension to our politics, I have not seen ppl accursed Jonathan because of his religion. The only person that has been continuously accuses because of his religion is Muhamadu Buhari.
Please, you will need to tell us another lie, this may not fly.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 8:55pm On Nov 21, 2014
LFJ:


You don't need to be unnecessarily emotional over this issue. I am just saying the fact. Not until now that you are introducing another dimension to our politics, I have not seen ppl accursed Jonathan because of his religion. The only person that has been continuously accuses because of his religion is Muhamadu Buhari.
Please, you will need to tell us another lie, this may not fly.

Which dimension am I just introducing?

You are either blind to facts or a plain ignoramus to think northern Nigerian politics can be in conformity with anything democratic.

Jonathan has been severally accused of being sectarian. His affiliation with Orisejafor has been condemned severally by the north and Jonathan has been condemned here for introducing religion into politics.

My job here is to point the hypocrisy out.

You can disagree with me but don't use this argument to shill for your Buhari and northern masters.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by 9jii(m): 8:57pm On Nov 21, 2014
EASTERNERS POLITICS OF BIGOTRY. all these kind post are coming from baby factory.

I'm sure you are confusing your kind of politics with northern politics.
Mixing politics with religion is typical Nyamuri thing. Because you believe your pastors are gods. They dictate to you

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 9:06pm On Nov 21, 2014
9jii:
EASTERNERS POLITICS OF BIGOTRY. all these kind post are coming from baby factory.

I'm sure you are confusing your kind of politics with northern politics.
Mixing politics with religion is typical Nyamuri thing. Because you believe your pastors are gods. They dictate to you

Your open statement betrayed your stereotyping abilities and bigotry.

I am not Ibo fool.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LFJ: 9:07pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


Which dimension am I just introducing?

You are either blind to facts or a plain ignoramus to think northern Nigerian politics can be in conformity with anything democratic.

Jonathan has been severally accused of being sectarian. His affiliation with Orisejafor has been condemned severally by the north and Jonathan has been condemned here for introducing religion into politics.

My job here is to point the hypocrisy out.

You can disagree with me but don't use this argument to shill for your Buhari and northern masters.

Stop all this conspiracy theory, You are accusing Northerners as if you like them. With all honesty and before you and your God, tell us if you like these Northerners and their religion.
Northerners hate Jonathan because is an ijaw man, do you like them because they are Hausa? They hate Jonathan because is a Christian, do you like them because they are Muslim?
Leave religion and tribes out of politics. This is a Simple case, Jonathan has spent more than 5yrs as president of Nigeria, just tell us why you think he deserves another for years.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by 9jii(m): 9:07pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


Your open statement betrayed your stereotyping abilities and bigotry.

I am not Ibo fool.
You are. don't denied your heritage. Alobam, kedu

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 9:13pm On Nov 21, 2014
9jii:

You are. don't denied your heritage. Alobam, kedu

Well I know am not a dirty, ugly, Incestious, voodoo practicing jealousy filled coward like some people.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by bitterpenis(m): 9:17pm On Nov 21, 2014
Smh
Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 9:18pm On Nov 21, 2014
LFJ:


Stop all this conspiracy theory, You are accusing Northerners as if you like them. With all honesty and before you and your God, tell us if you like these Northerners and their religion.
Northerners hate Jonathan because is an ijaw man, do you like them because they are Hausa? They hate Jonathan because is a Christian, do you like them because they are Muslim?
Leave religion and tribes out of politics. This is a Simple case, Jonathan has spent more than 5yrs as president of Nigeria, just tell us why you think he deserves another for years.

Believe what you want. I just stated my opinion backed with documented facts.

If your job is to shill the unsuspecting then by all means you are free to do so.

Stop mentioning me and state your argument.

It's not like I made this thread with you specifically in mind.

If you have other countering facts to state that the north does not have a supremacist and Islamic agenda then state it.

You will be backing up the wrong tree with me since I am fully convinced of the north's ploy.

Call it hair brain conspiracy but the evidence is there;

A region with reoccurring inter annual sectarian violence

A region currently hosting an Islamic insurgency

A region clamouring for power on the basis that it is their right.

I can go on but my first post has said all I wanted to.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LFJ: 9:28pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


Believe what you want. I just stated my opinion backed with documented facts.

If your job is to shill the unsuspecting then by all means you are free to do so.

Stop mentioning me and state your argument.

It's not like I made this thread with you specifically in mind.

If you have other countering facts to state that the north does not have a supremacist and Islamic agenda then state it.

You will be backing up the wrong tree with me since I am fully convinced of the north's ploy.

Call it hair brain conspiracy but the evidence is there;

A region with reoccurring inter annual sectarian violence

A region currently hosting an Islamic insurgency

A region clamouring for power on the basis that it is their right.

I can go on but my first post has said all I wanted to.


Unfortunately for you, this your story will not fly. You will need to go back to come up with another fake story. Jonathan is a president of Nigeria, he wants another four years, just tell us what he has done in the last five yrs with mandate given to him rather than coming here to tell us how Hausa or Yoruba hate Jonathan. If they hate him, tell him to hate them back. Just tell us why u want us to give him four more years. SIMPLE!

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by ogbronx(m): 9:30pm On Nov 21, 2014
focus7:
You are making a mistake, many of us who wants Jonathan out are christians. Taking it from the religion angle that u are coming from, I will say we wants Jonathan out because he has betrayed christianity, he has failed to represent what christianity stand for which is integrity and justice. It is a shame to call Jonathan a christian because he has represented more evil than should be expected, it seems as though Jonathan now attends tutorial for evil practices.
The thing tire me oh! So pple still reason like the op? Christian verses Muslims ? The op is an example of those whom our corrupt, greedy and wicked politicians capitalize on for partisan politics. Who even is a christian ? one that tolerates corruption ? one who is prone to being mean on the masses or he that fears his godfathers more than helpless citizens?
If gej were a Christian, he wouldn't be president in the first place.
NB, most of these new monikers( maybe PDP hired) are really brainless and have turned nairaland to a cesspool. Its a damn shame!

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 9:31pm On Nov 21, 2014
LFJ:


Unfortunately for you, this your story will not fly. You will need to go back to come up with another fake story. Jonathan is a president of Nigeria, he wants another four years, just tell us what he has done in the last five yrs with mandate given to him rather than coming here to tell us how Hausa or Yoruba hate Jonathan. If they hate him, tell him to hate them back. Just tell us why u want us to give him four more years. SIMPLE!

Funny how the Yorubas have so much partisan unity to the north alone.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LFJ: 9:37pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


Funny how the Yorubas have so much partisan unity to the north alone.


That is not a crime. It is better than uniting with associate of corruption.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 9:39pm On Nov 21, 2014
LFJ:


That is not a crime. It is better than uniting with associate of corruption.

Tinubu should be awarded a phd in mass deception.


A drug lord cum corrupt embezzler and distractor per excellence who made a whole region myopic.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by samento: 9:40pm On Nov 21, 2014
klodike:
This we all know. But my annoyance with GEJ is that he is making it easy for himself to be target. Fortunately for him and unfortunately for Nigeria, the opposition APC in particular has not got what it takes to substitute this gentleman. Rather they are a coalition of enemies of Jonathan.
Jonathan is not capable of ruling this country. He is better as a deputy governor.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by LFJ: 9:52pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


Tinubu should be awarded a phd in mass deception.


A drug lord cum corrupt embezzler and distractor per excellence who made a whole region myopic.

If Tinubu is awarded PhD in mass deception. Jonathan will not miss the award in assembling f.o.ols to manage his image.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by 9jii(m): 9:52pm On Nov 21, 2014
MudRaker:


Well I know am not a dirty, ugly, Incestious, voodoo practicing jealousy filled coward like some people.

I knew I ll bring it out of you. Displayed.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 9:55pm On Nov 21, 2014
9jii:

I knew I ll bring it out of you. Displayed.

It is not my fault.

Calling you all those things is not an insult but an apt description.

Stop derailing.

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Re: Jonathan's Religion And NOT Politics Is Why They Want Him Out by MudRaker: 9:57pm On Nov 21, 2014
LFJ:


If Tinubu is awarded PhD in mass deception. Jonathan will not miss the award in assembling f.o.ols to manage his image.

As presiding head of all things Nigeria that makes you a fool as well

Plus your papa that is if you get one.


And your mama


And bisi or whatever phat azz bimbo gree give you her smelly puna

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