Christmasdon:
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Emmalot121:
Atheists argue that life popped out of nothing, therefore God is not needed in the equation. They are quick at using M and B word. They say Earth is billions of years old and man is millions of years old and evolved from tiny organisms. They have refused to give us detailed reasons why it took so long and every process man took, if possible catalyze the whole process, subsequently giving us a human being.
Let me use the experiment that Galileo Galilei used to stun the entire world of science; the experiment that every object falls at same rate when air resistance is absent. To do this, we have to pump out the air to give us a vacuum (though logic tells us the vacuum is something, the absence of air molecules gives us a perfect example of nothing since we are only concerned about the air molecules and its emptiness.)
Through this experiment, we see that for nothing(absence of air molecules) to exist, something must have triggered it. What if we want to get our air molecules back(a very important component of life itself)? Should we wait for a few days, months, years or centuries for air molecules to pop out of nothing? A sane mind will realise that something can't come out of nothing but nothing can come out of something. This proof singlehandedly shows that the genesis of the 'faith' of atheists is shaky.
Since its now being proofed that life started from something and not nothing (even nothing must come from something,) we can then try to highlight the properties and characteristics this something must possess:
1) Must be called God because everything was created by him because without him was anything made that was made.
2) He must be infinite because he is infinity, he came from infinity, therefore he has no source, neither can he have an end because he is infinite.
3) He must be all powerful and infinitely intelligent. The works of his hands are sufficient proof.
4) He must possess properties beyond normal, properties beyond our wisdom e.g an invisible Spirit. People will wish to argue this one but Hebrews 11:3 says: Through faith, we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that "things which are seen are not made of things which do appear". This applies to everything in the universe, including you and this knowledge is applied in the making of televisions and phones.

Kay17:


Yet this God takes all the semblance of the human. He is the Who that starts everything, but no ONE to start him because if he had a beginning, the entire sequence of creation will have to be followed by a endless chain of many Who-s. God is a classic case of anthropomorphism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism). If God was not given the characteristics of a human being then HE would become an IT. If we stop finding answers filled with HEs, we will make more progress.

Kay17:


Yet this God takes all the semblance of the human. He is the Who that starts everything, but no ONE to start him because if he had a beginning, the entire sequence of creation will have to be followed by a endless chain of many Who-s. God is a classic case of anthropomorphism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism). If God was not given the characteristics of a human being then HE would become an IT. If we stop finding answers filled with HEs, we will make more progress.

Emmalot121:
He has no beginning because he is the beginning.

Kay17:


But above all, he is a HE. That's his Achilles heel. He is anthropomorphic, he is seemingly human.

Emmalot121:
He is used to represent him in Bible because it is in this view of him that we can have a clue of him. We are image of him and not otherwise.

plaetton:
You argue that everything must have a beginning, then you contradict your claim by stating that god does not have a beginning.
No matter how you spin it, god contradicts his own existence.

Kay17:


Can God be described without the word HE?!

Emmalot121:
God is the beginning itself.

Kay17:

Can God be described without the word HE?!

Emmalot121:
No!

Kay17:


The Beginning of what?

Of himself?!

Emmalot121:
Everything. Like I said the true nature of God can't be known. I am expecting counter questions from my proof, not asking me to tell you all about God.

Emmalot121:
Atheists argue that life popped out of nothing, therefore God is not needed in the equation. They are quick at using M and B word. They say Earth is billions of years old and man is millions of years old and evolved from tiny organisms. They have refused to give us detailed reasons why it took so long and every process man took, if possible catalyze the whole process, subsequently giving us a human being.
Let me use the experiment that Galileo Galilei used to stun the entire world of science; the experiment that every object falls at same rate when air resistance is absent. To do this, we have to pump out the air to give us a vacuum (though logic tells us the vacuum is something, the absence of air molecules gives us a perfect example of nothing since we are only concerned about the air molecules and its emptiness.)
Through this experiment, we see that for nothing(absence of air molecules) to exist, something must have triggered it. What if we want to get our air molecules back(a very important component of life itself)? Should we wait for a few days, months, years or centuries for air molecules to pop out of nothing? A sane mind will realise that something can't come out of nothing but nothing can come out of something. This proof singlehandedly shows that the genesis of the 'faith' of atheists is shaky.
Since its now being proofed that life started from something and not nothing (even nothing must come from something,) we can then try to highlight the properties and characteristics this something must possess:
1) Must be called God because everything was created by him because without him was anything made that was made.
2) He must be infinite because he is infinity, he came from infinity, therefore he has no source, neither can he have an end because he is infinite.
3) He must be all powerful and infinitely intelligent. The works of his hands are sufficient proof.
4) He must possess properties beyond normal, properties beyond our wisdom e.g an invisible Spirit. People will wish to argue this one but Hebrews 11:3 says: Through faith, we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that "things which are seen are not made of things which do appear". This applies to everything in the universe, including you and this knowledge is applied in the making of televisions and phones.

Kay17:


His true nature would include being the Beginning, right? So whether God is the beginning or not is unknown?

ifeness:


Looks like you are daydreaming or something. "He" for your God? Did you mean a man?

Emmalot121:
You are repeating the same question. I have already answered this using the atom illustration.

Kay17:


i am not aware of the atomic illustration

Emmalot121:
"As for your who's question, when you break a piece of yam, won't you get to its atom? "

Kay17:

Emmalot121:
He can be used for someone with no gender. As for your who's question, when you break a piece of yam, won't you get to its atom? There is origin for everything. The origin of our universe is something and that something is God, the beginning and the end. Like I said the comprehension of God is beyond human reasoning.

ifeness:


He cannot be used for someone without gender,that is a wrong way to put it. When a baby is born,you use "It" until you are sure of it's gender. Therefore,when you use "He" for you God,you are trying to say your God has muscle-line qualities.

When you describe your God,you have personified and quantified it. Then your God becomes finite and not infinite.

Emmalot121:
"He is used to represent him in Bible because it is in this view of him that we can have a clue of him. We are image of him and not otherwise." I've assisted you in quoting the answer.

missdebs:
if u opened this thread to prove God existence to aethists, ur wastin ur time. My5kobo

Emmalot121:
God is the beginning itself.

ifeness:


That is wrong. I think the Bible was referring to a particular deity. It was even given a name called Yahweh,am i wrong? This particular deity described by the Bible had a peculiar characteristic which includes being vicious,control freak,jealous and always angry. Yahweh could also be referred to as an extraterrestrial. How could you describe that as an infinite being?

Tell me one good attribute of your God?