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Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Nobody: 2:59pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
adeolu17: Well, its up to you to decide what to do. It is possible to sort things out and continue as married. It really is up to you. But if you seek a divorce you would be in order. But at the same time if she demonstrates that she is repentant and genuinely so, then you have a choice to make. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by whao: 3:02pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Zakkyoz: Nothing like instinct! Marriage was ordain by God and it should be made honorable and bed undefiled, but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge -Heb 13:4; don't go into marriage with intention of divorce cos as true believer "not christian" your thought should be joy towards the married not divorce. "But I say unto you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery..... Mathew 5:32". So as a believer you are not suppose to divorce your wife under any circumstances unless unfaithfulness. Any word written in the bible is a guide to Godly living so don't in anyway use your instinct to justify your errs 2Tim 3:16. This is why I am so careful when it comes to who I am to marry cos I don't wanna make a choice of regret. Your wife will be a great determinant of your destiny to be fulfilled, so pray and watch as you desire a wife called "the virtues woman". My take anyway. 1 Like |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by uzolexis(f): 3:03pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Agnesgrace: though it is not in the bible, I would add domestic violence to that list. I am very sure God would understand cause he values our lives so much and would be angry with us if we knowingly put our lives in danger. I have seen and hrd a lot of women stay in abusive marriages and can't leave cause "divorce is wrong" until they almost lost their lives or got deformed all in the name of marriage. May God keep us away from this but i would advise anybody in this situation to run and seek for a divorce. 1 Like |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by lomprico(m): 3:03pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
aisha2:Is okotie ur pastor? |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Nobody: 3:08pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
enairaprof: True! But consider what the implication of infidelity is. Marriage is a blood covenant. Infidelity means you have broken that covenant and defiled the vessel of the covenant. Moreover, sexual sin is a sin against Man's body. All other forms of sin is outside of the body. So if a body has been defiled, it therefore means that the covenant of marriage has been corrupted. And because that covenant has been corrupted, it should either be repaired or be done away with. The covenant that God made with the nation of Israel was defiled and corrupted several times. But God kept repairing it, forgiving the Israelites of their unfaithfulness. In time however, that covenant was done away with because Israel was indignant and stubborn, and replaced with a new one. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by galaxybabe(f): 3:09pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
idoncome:What you are trying to say is that divorce in catholic church is called annulment.**noted** but dis is not about catholic church,its about being a christain,church don't save people,dat is what we in the catholic church fail to understand,cannot make me to endure a violent marrage all cos of doctrines and all** |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Dailyfavour(m): 3:14pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Bible says NO MORE TWO BUT ONE, marrying is like saying GOOD or BAD we are together. Except on adultry as said and no clear clarification. No case |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by lomprico(m): 3:16pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
frosbel:I tot christianity is fashioned out of the new testament? If David married more dan a wife, Jesus came to change n simplify it. Abi u no follow de comdem tithe, is it not in d old testament? |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Originalsly: 3:20pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Hmmm......the Bible says one thing...and church doctrine says something different...but too many of us call ourselves Christians but put church doctrine above Bible teachings. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by franugo(m): 3:23pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Mhizdimplez: its sunday in nigeria I wouldn,t know, it's saturday here #am in tokyo. ngwa send d pics |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by lastmessenger: 3:28pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
paulsir:Just give to your neighbour and go and and divorce him/her. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Glocal1: 3:28pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
OasisofRefuge:what part of d bible supports divorce on d grounds of adultery? All I know is till death do them apart. 1 Like |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Lex11(m): 3:30pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
There should be NO divorce for any reason... in Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9, the original Greek word "parektovß" was translated "saving" / "except" and should have been interpreted without exception to. The entire word of God is harmonious from cover to cover, (even though there may appear to be contradictions)...so in comparing Matt 5:32 & Matt 19:9 with the entire Bible, there should be nothing that ends a marriage..."Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder" - Matthew 19:6... except the death of a spouse. "For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. " - Romans 7:2-3 Even though GOD temporarily permitted men to divorce their wives for substantive/righteous reasons of His own - "He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so." - Matthew 19:8 GOD hates divorce - "For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously." - Malachi 2:16 We ought to forgive one another, by His grace, no matter the nature of the sin and work through it, praying in the process because we "walk by Faith..." |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Nobody: 3:31pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
lomprico: Did Okotie write the book of Malachai chapter 2? Go and read your bible and stop projecting your ignorance on me |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by nitrogen(m): 3:43pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Domestic Violence! All these people(especially ladies) shouting 'till death do us part', sorry, pray you don't see violence, you will run for your life, I mean incessant and consistent domestic violence perpetrated by insensible and crazy men. Nobody will tell you to run before you do. 1 Like |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by lomprico(m): 3:54pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
aisha2:Its a question o! Am sure okotie has used dat chapter to brainwash u. I have read my bible and Jesus condemmed it. Read matt 19:1-12 |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by lightbearer(m): 3:55pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
If your spouse is an unbeliever you owe him or her no obligation. let me give you a few factors to consider as a factor to label your spouse an unbeliever; if the person never accepted Christ as his or her savior, or if the person throws away his or her faith or belief in Christ, or if the person now practices a new faith other than Christianity, or if you offended such a person and you made several effort to reconcile and he or she refused to make up one of those effort must have witnesses another of the effort must be elders or pastors from your church if all didn't work with such a person then he or she can be branded an unbeliever. from that moment you cease to owe him or her any obligation so you can go for your divorce. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by deprince0(m): 4:04pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Mtt 5:31-32. Mk 10:2-12. Lk 16:18. Rom 7:2-3. This is an interesting topic because it is going to open our understanding on what d the scripture says about divorce. On no occassion should divorce take place in marriage. Jesus made it clear that except in the case of fornication. The question is ; can married people commit fornication? Married people can never commit fornication but adultery. Fornication occurs btw singles not married. This is what Jesus was actually saying, Keeping a woman in ur home in the name of boyfriend and girlfriend or fiance and fiancee. Once they are not married but are living and sleeping with themselves. These two commit fornication. Either of them is free walk away. Even while they live together without marriage: they commit sin (fornication). Christ didnt say one can divorce in the face of unfaithfulness. In d face of unfaithfulness, there must be forgiveness. God bless. Watchman Catholic Charismatic Renewal Movement. 08084619104. 1 Like |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Nobody: 4:06pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
lomprico: Dont know Okotie, dont intend to, please post verbatim what Jesus wrote and study it side by side with the book of Malachai. God was angry with unfaithful husbands who divorced their wives for flimsy reasons and mistreated them. Jesus also emphasised that you dont just give your wife a divorce paper as moses commanded because you are tired, you should only divorce her if she commits adultery. Its not my fault you cant read and digest your own bible till a pastor quotes it out of context for you. Dont blame me for your myopia abeg. Done. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by ohimai83: 4:06pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
speakthetruth:How is adultery out of context? Explain. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by lomprico(m): 4:07pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
aisha2:Sorry never knew u are divorced. Ma bad |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Nobody: 4:11pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Zakkyoz:if everyone quits when he is fed up, then no marriage will last, no home will stand and our society will crumble. "Love endures all things" 1 Like |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Guidette(f): 4:12pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
As a child of parents who are still together, i would understand and support them if they had a divorce. Them staying together has been hell for us kids in the house. Marriage shouldnt hurt or be painful or be endured. If my mother keeps crying every night because she has to endure her marriage or cant divorce under no circumstance, is that life? Hian! You blind xtians amaze me. I will literally throw a party the day my parents get divorced. For real!!! Sometimes i really do think i dnt want to ever get married because of wat ive seen firsthand frm my parents marriage. Hmmm.... |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Kemmiiee: 4:16pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
angelTI: What if your husband constantly assaults you, almost to the point of death ? |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Originalsly: 4:32pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Glocal1:What part of the Bible is anything like death do us part written? That is not in the Bible....google is your friend...find out the source of all these sayings instead of blindly repeating and passing them on. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Knowyaself(m): 4:40pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Samabu07: Thank u my dear. People just apply the scripture selfishly - even if u divorce on the grounds of adultery, the condition is that u have to remain single, otherwise u should forgive your spouse and continue to live with him/her. There're no grounds to divorce and remarry. This is the bitter truth. 1 Like |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Kobeje(m): 4:41pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted divorce only as a CONCESSION TO YOUR HARD HEARTS, but it was not what God had originally intended. NLT (emphasis mine) In short Jesus says no basis for divorce. But since you men want divorce in the picture, the only condition is this: [NLT] Matthew 19:0 And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery—unless his wife has been unfaithful.” Like i said earlier, God does not expect violence in the home. At times i wonder, why should there be violence in the home where each member should find refuge? Anyway, when life is threatened then some separation may be necessary and if need be divorce. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Originalsly: 4:42pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Kemmiiee:What kind question be this?!...remember it's till death do you part! ...that's etched on her brain and is no way she would seek divorce no matter how her husband may abuse her.....her mind is programmed to remain with her husband regardless of what I, you or the Bible say. And we still wonder why women remain in abusive relationships until they are brutalised then abandoned or killed. |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by madskills(m): 4:45pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
simplemach:WOW!!!!!dat was my WEDDING thanks 4 coming... |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by nitrogen(m): 4:46pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Guidette:That's what we are talking about, enduring instead of enjoying a marraige, all in the name of 'till death do us part'. Rubbish, I just pity some women! |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by olowolekan(m): 4:46pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
ojuoluwani:.may God see you through .Honestly once you are married,there is no room for divorce.or you divorce and stay alone as long as your partner is alive |
Re: Under What Conditions Should A Christian (born Again) Divorce? by Kemmiiee: 4:47pm On Nov 23, 2014 |
Originalsly: Huh ? I don't get your stance on this .. |
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