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If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:10am On Nov 25, 2014 |
Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.(that means we are all sinners And always would be) Romans 3:10 As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;(that means we would always be unrighteous ) Both points to the fact that no one is righteous,no one is good. No one would ever be righteous. Now the Bible clearly states that wrongdoers/unrighteous/bad people will not make it to heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, Ephesians 5:5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a person is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. So how on earth is anyone supposed to make heaven? Christians might say we are saved by his grace alone and not by work(Ephesians 2: So that means every sinner would go to heaven? Because Dey are saved by grace. Hahaha. They will reply nooo u have to practice your faith in Christ Jesus by obeying the word of God(isn't that working?) How deluded could this people get? If heaven is real And everyone is a sinner, Then we are all going to hell(wrong) If heaven is real And everyone is a sinner,And sinners are saved by his grace,Then we are all going to heaven(still wrong) If heaven is real And everyone is a sinner ,And every sinner must exercise his faith by obeying his word,Then that makes the death of Jesus Christ unnecessary. If everything just doesn't add up,Then I can smell delusion And cognitive dissonance. If you are not convinced yet that you have been deceived,Then your delusion and brainwashing is beyond remedy. Oya start insulting me!!!!! |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:13am On Nov 25, 2014 |
Logical truth. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:18am On Nov 25, 2014 |
Anti-christ, get behind me 3 Likes |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:22am On Nov 25, 2014 |
There is no plausible evidence in the Bible of a fiery hell. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:28am On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly:Lake io f fire, abys, the story of Lazarus and d rich man, etc |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:32am On Nov 25, 2014 |
zeemahn:that is an illustration. Ecclesiates 9:5 does say that once dead, that's the end. The Bible also states that once dead, one is acquitted for his sins. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:39am On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly:Before I comment further, Are you JW? |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:45am On Nov 25, 2014 |
zeemahn:You already know |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Weah96: 1:59am On Nov 25, 2014 |
zeemahn: The same Lazarus who was resurrected by Jesus after almost one week of feeding the worms? It is appointed unto man once to die, yet people were getting resurrected every 3 days by Jesus and co. These stories were compiled by mad people. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 6:10am On Nov 25, 2014 |
Weah96: The Bible was compiled by people suffering from chronic cognitive dissonance |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 6:17am On Nov 25, 2014 |
Wonderlands: Can you tell me how you expect to make heaven as a sinner? |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by haffaze777(m): 7:00am On Nov 25, 2014 |
who give a damn about what bible say |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 9:28am On Nov 25, 2014 |
Weah96:Are you not aware of the story of Lazarus and the rich man? Where the rich man asked Lazarus for a drop of water, etc Another reason why theists never win any reasonable argument. modified Ok I get you. But you made a mistake. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 9:34am On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly:You guyz got good argument. But many are still weak |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 9:36am On Nov 25, 2014 |
zeemahn:Weak, in what sense? Expatiate, if you please. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 9:43am On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly:Like the general ones other denominations usually offer eg I read a watchtower magazine, In the magazine, they tried to prove that JW is the true religion by asking and answering questions. No 1 question and answer was the funniest. I laugh whenever I remember it It goes thus; Why is JW the true way? answer: because we serve Jehovah and act according to the words in his holy book;the Bible. I said ok. Why is Islam true? answer: because we serve Allah and do what is written in his holy book;the Quran |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 9:55am On Nov 25, 2014 |
zeemahn:Your opinion. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 11:15am On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly: So a jw is free to sin,no danger of hell fire? |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 11:58am On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly:Ok. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 12:07pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
Dapo777:I specifically stated that ANYONE who dies is acquitted of his sin. The Bible itself says so. "The wages sin pay is death." |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Rilwayne001: 12:38pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly: |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Rilwayne001: 12:40pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
Too many contradictions in the bible... |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:19pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:What confuses you? It's self-explanatory. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Rilwayne001: 1:21pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly: Okay, can you please expantiate, cos i dont see it as self-explanatory there.. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 1:23pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly: It's the same thing we are saying. That means I have nothing to fear if I should continue to sin on earth because I am fully assured that my sins would be forgiven once I die according to jw |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 2:26pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:LOL, don't be dramatic. How do you feel the Bible is being contradictory? |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 2:28pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
Dapo777:Wait, so you're serving God out of the supposed fear of being eternally burnt in hell? Fear? That's it? Hm. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Rilwayne001: 2:59pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly: Can you tell me why no one is righteous? Romans 3:10 As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one.... BUT Mar 6:20 because Herod feared John and protected him, knowing him to be a righteous and holy man . When Herod heard John, he was greatly puzzled; yet he liked to listen to him. THEN Romans 14v12: so then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. It therefore implies that the idea “none is righteous no, not one (Roman 3v9-12) is a fabrication, an unclad fantastic lies,that is propagated with ignorance and fantasy... MEANWHILE Paul's apparent direct quote from Scripture that is supposed to prove to us that no one is righteous, but all are full of evil. Now guess what? No such passage exists! What Paul quotes is a compilation of no less than six separate passages. Do you care to know? |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by briantext(m): 3:42pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
[size=18pt]2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?[/size]
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Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Nobody: 3:55pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:No one is righteous, because everyone is imperfect. Everyone is vulnerable to sin. You need to understand the context in which that sentence is used. Righteousness in other context can mean faithfulness and loyalty to God and his words. I don't see any contradiction, if you ask me. Be open-minded, and on't be quick to jump to premature conclusions. |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Hiswordxray(m): 4:05pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
2Cor 5:21 "For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." Col 1:21-22 "And although you at one time were estranged and alienated from Him and were of hostile attitude of mind in your wicked activities, Yet now has [Christ, the Messiah] reconciled [you to God] in the body of His flesh through death, in order to present you holy and faultless and irreproachable in His [the Father's] presence." Eph 1:4 "just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love," Heb 10:14 "For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified." Titus 3:7 "Because of his grace he declared us righteous and gave us confidence that we will inherit eternal life." I can go on and on and on... It is impossible for me not to go to heaven because I am holy, blameless, faultless, righteous, and perfect because of what Christ have done. So don't talk about what you know nothing about. 1 Like |
Re: If Hell Is Real,then We Are All Doomed For It.(its In The Bible) by Rilwayne001: 4:46pm On Nov 25, 2014 |
MzNelly: But i showed you where John is believed to be righteous, is'nt it? because everyone is imperfect. What makes everyone imperfect? Everyone is vulnerable to sin. You need to understand the context in which that sentence is used. As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one; there is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God. They have all gone out of the way; they have together become unprofitable; there is none who does good, no, not one." Romans 3:10-12 Paul wants us to believe here^^ that no one becomes righteous through the works of the Law. But there are many whom God called "righteous". From Genesis 7:1 where He says to Noah, "I have seen that you are righteous before Me in this generation", there are many references to "righteous" men. Take an exhaustive concordance and look under the word righteous. |
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