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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Wendy80(f): 8:49pm On Nov 23, 2014
mamateniola1:
Hello everyone. Pls are we saying babymumsy's hubby works 8am-2pm or he doesn't work at all that we are blaming her for maybe her hubby's loneliness? Wel maybe we shld av asked if her hubby works too cos I haven't seen any job that's not between the period of 8am -6pm in this Lagos +2hrs in traffic!!
No1 is blaming her, we are only pointing out d fact dat her job takes greater part of her. She didn't state if her hubby works too, Who stays with her newborn when she's @ work.
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Meddler(f): 5:22am On Nov 25, 2014
I think I've reached a point where I can now communicate with my husband without crying, feeling extremely hurt, disappointed or angry. I'm trying to get him to communicate effectively but he doesn't think it's necessary. He just wants to put everything behind him and just move on. I don't think this is healthy because he's not exploring the underlying reason for why this happened in the first place.
Our relationship started as an office relationship and we were able to make things work and be professional at the work place. But I did notice that there was a girl in the office he had a thing for and when I think back the only reason why things didn't progress with her was because we worked in close quarters and I was able to keep a close eye on him and asked him to break off whatever was going on.
Now he hasn't been in an office setting in a while (he's a consultant) and just started his new job this year and now experiencing having work colleagues again. If something like this could happen so early on at his workplace, what's to say it won't happen again? He's still going to be seeing the girl again and even if he does quit and find another job, there will be females there too.
My problem is that he's taking all this for granted and says it won't happen again. It's like someone trying to lose weight and even though she's made that resolve to abstain from chocolates whenever it's placed before he/she they can't seem to resist it even though they've sworn a million and one times that's they will never touch another piece of chocolate.
I don't know what else to do. Because I'm not sure I'm wiling to go thru all this turmoil again when next it happens.
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by RoyalRoy(m): 6:12am On Nov 25, 2014
Meddler:
Because I'm not sure I'm wiling to go thru all this turmoil again when next it happens.


Madam, I understand your fears and the emotional turmoil you are going through.

But truth be told, you need to give him the benefit of doubt.

You are already half-concluding that it will happy again! Not so cool.

Men are known to suffer in silence.
He doesn't feel too good talking about it cos he still feels a lot of guilt.

Give him a little time and he will come around.

And whatever you do, don't sit down waiting for the next mistress to come around, its bad for your emotions and psyche.


It is well with you!
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 8:02am On Nov 25, 2014
meddler dear, what you are experiencing is a fall out of when a partner cheats and dealing with being cheated on is probably one of the most difficult and complicated issues that one will have to deal with in ones life
so many questions and so many ifs and whys
it cant be easy at all, especially when the trust is compromised.

My dear one day at a time. Men dont like to talk much, but I think that they do think about things but keep it all inside. Apart from the literature professors and sky news presenters on here like coogar and sagamite tongue grin most men have fewer words to say than us women.

If I were in your shoes, I will want to know every single detail up to the colour of her bedsheet that she used to gather my hubbys sweat, but in reality I am only hurting myself more. You already know the basic details, you know how it happened and probably why it happened so you may just want to let it go, especially as he is in not keen to spill everything, knowing that giving you all the gory details will only hurt you more.

As regards future affairs, please give him a chance to prove himself. I know you are really hurting right now. but he too needs you to beleive in him however, Be watchful; after all once bitten tiwce shy, but do not let that rule or dictate to you or take over your life. You deserve to be happy.

I am sure that there must be books that cover this. You may want to look for a good book on amazon to help you with this difficult period that you are going through.
It is well my dear ((hugs))

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 8:37am On Nov 25, 2014
chaircover:
meddler dear, what you are experiencing is a fall out of when a partner cheats and dealing with being cheated on is probably one of the most difficult and complicated issues that one will have to deal with in ones life
so many questions and so many ifs and whys
it cant be easy at all, especially when the trust is compromised.

My dear one day at a time. Men dont like to talk much, but I think that they do think about things but keep it all inside. Apart from the literature professors and sky news presenters on here like coogar and sagamite tongue grin most men have fewer words to say than us women.

If I were in your shoes, I will want to know every single detail up to the colour of her bedsheet that she used to gather my hubbys sweat, but in reality I am only hurting myself more. You already know the basic details, you know how it happened and probably why it happened so you may just want to let it go, especially as he is in not keen to spill everything, knowing that giving you all the gory details will only hurt you more.

As regards future affairs, please give him a chance to prove himself. I know you are really hurting right now. but he too needs you to beleive in him however, Be watchful; after all once bitten tiwce shy, but do not let that rule or dictate to you or take over your life. You deserve to be happy.

I am sure that there must be books that cover this. You may want to look for a good book on amazon to help you with this difficult period that you are going through.
It is well my dear ((hugs))

I don't like to comment too much on issues like hers because I would be direct and logical; not insulting, victimising or attacking. But I would ask her questions that would query her position, not support her just because she feels wronged.

Most women are not receptive to such facts or objectivity, they just want people like you to listen and give words of support and encouragement. undecided

You are doing a good job in giving her what she wants to hear. Saga Saga does not follow that line, so I go siddon look. cheesy

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Meddler(f): 8:39am On Nov 25, 2014
Thanks CC and RR. I guess you guys are right. I just tend to process things a little bit mechanically. They say people who don't learn from their past are doomed to repeat it. I guess I'll just have to let him be and be more vigilante.
I actually came across a very good resource online which has helped me get to the point I am and being able to actually speak to him without having to break down or go bonkers on him.
I'm trying to heal myself but I guess I might be trying to move him at my pace rather than his.
Anyway I'm praying and hoping this would be the last we will have to face something like this in our marriage.
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 8:54am On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:

I don't like to comment too much of issues like hers because I would be direct and logical; not insulting, victimising or attacking. But I would ask her questions that would query her position, not support her just because she feels wronged.
Most women are not receptive to such facts or objectivity, they just want people like you to listen and give words of support and encouragement. undecided
You are doing a good job in giving her what she wants to hear. Saga Saga does not follow that line, so I go siddon look. cheesy

Was only teasing you joor wink grin

But seriously, why not? Why dont you say what your gut feeling is? You may be doing her and others a favour. We may be missing something from a mans point of view.

This is what we have been saying for ages. We need men to be more involved here. You men make up the other half of a relationship. we need your input.

We understand the difference between men and women; the way you process things and the way you see things and deal with things. I have a son and a daughter and its so interesting to watch the differences. My son goes into a shop and picks something in seconds, while my daugher dily dalys just like me. We always keep her receipts just in case she wants to return the item.

So dont siddon look. I am sure that meddler wont mind you asking her questions. We are all learning.

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by tuns10: 9:06am On Nov 25, 2014
nwababy, i say big congrats to you. was inspired by your testimony. more good news shall come your way and wish you success as you prepare for the real one. wish u all the best
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 9:12am On Nov 25, 2014
chaircover:


Was only teasing you joor wink grin

But seriously, why not? Why dont you say what your gut feeling is? You may be doing her and others a favour. We may be missing something from a mans point of view.

This is what we have been saying for ages. We need men to be more involved here. You men make up the other half of a relationship. we need your input.

We understand the difference between men and women; the way you process things and the way you see things and deal with things. I have a son and a daughter and its so interesting to watch the differences. My son goes into a shop and picks something in seconds, while my daugher dily dalys just like me. We always keep her receipts just in case she wants to return the item.

So dont siddon look. I am sure that meddler wont mind you asking her questions. We are all learning.

Not every woman wants or can handle facts and objectivity like you. Most prefer to be lied to especially in situations they have out of control. It makes them feel better. grin

It is her private life, so I have to respect it.

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 9:16am On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


Not every woman wants or can handle facts and objectivity like you. Most prefer to be lied to especially in situations they have out of control. It makes them feel better. grin

It is her private life, so I have to respect it.

Errrrmmmmmm embarassed
Sometimes but not always
If I ask you if if you like my new hairstyle and you say NO; then you are looking for my trouble. My objectivity no reach that one grin
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 9:23am On Nov 25, 2014
chaircover:


Errrrmmmmmm embarassed
Sometimes but not always
If I ask you if if you like my new hairstyle and you say NO; then you are looking for my trouble. My objectivity no reach that one grin

Exactly!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

If you ask me if I find any other girl attractive and I say YES, it is war.

So I would say "No, baby. Kim Kardashian is the ugliest thing I have ever seen in my life and I have never felt such a revulsion towards any woman before, baby. I only fancy you out of all the over 1 billion women on Earth". Then you see her beam from ear to ear. grin

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Meddler(f): 9:31am On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


Not every woman wants or can handle facts and objectivity like you. Most prefer to be lied to especially in situations they have out of control. It makes them feel better. grin

It is her private life, so I have to respect it.

Sagamite please I will actually be honored if u could make your own input. I'm honestly not looking for sympathy, I'm just trying to process everything logically. I have asked my husband and he has literally given me all the details of the affair (or atleast I think he has) even the most painful ones. I sat and I listened to all of them without flipping out. That include all the intimate details, what he felt after each encounter, how he felt when he was with her. Why he found it hard to break it off - so yes I know pretty much everything and it was not easy hearing all that in anyway.

I process things when I understand them and that's why I outlined everything above. I have taken some blame in the situation but I know that this was in no shape or form was fault and I would never accept responsibility for his actions. Lord knows I gave him free reign. Coming back late at night without questions trusting fully that he was where he said he was.

I guess in hindsight I might have been a little bit too trusting because I confronted him twice about this coworker and he said absolutely nothing was going on and I believed him. I saw incriminating bbm chats between both of them and he still told me nothing happened and I believed him and there were a couple more instances and he still assured me nothing was going on. It wasn't until he started hiding his phone from me and saying he had people listed as private contacts did alarm bells start going off. So yes I saw signs but trusted him because he was my husband and believed he won't be so callous as to do something like this.

So if you have any questions, inputs please submit them. I really want to hear them as that would further help me understand what possibly led to this.

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 10:24am On Nov 25, 2014
Meddler:


Sagamite please I will actually be honored if u could make your own input. I'm honestly not looking for sympathy, I'm just trying to process everything logically. I have asked my husband and he has literally given me all the details of the affair (or atleast I think he has) even the most painful ones. I sat and I listened to all of them without flipping out. That include all the intimate details, what he felt after each encounter, how he felt when he was with her. Why he found it hard to break it off - so yes I know pretty much everything and it was not easy hearing all that in anyway.

I process things when I understand them and that's why I outlined everything above. I have taken some blame in the situation but I know that this was in no shape or form was fault and I would never accept responsibility for his actions. Lord knows I gave him free reign. Coming back late at night without questions trusting fully that he was where he said he was.

I guess in hindsight I might have been a little bit too trusting because I confronted him twice about this coworker and he said absolutely nothing was going on and I believed him. I saw incriminating bbm chats between both of them and he still told me nothing happened and I believed him and there were a couple more instances and he still assured me nothing was going on. It wasn't until he started hiding his phone from me and saying he had people listed as private contacts did alarm bells start going off. So yes I saw signs but trusted him because he was my husband and believed he won't be so callous as to do something like this.

So if you have any questions, inputs please submit them. I really want to hear them as that would further help me understand what possibly led to this.

Okay.

Why do you want to give the relationship continuation a try?

Why do you think your relationship is for him?

What do you think you bring into the relationship that makes you deserve him being exclusive with you?

How do you see your ability in making him happy?

Did he marry you because (i) he wanted to marry you or (ii) he wanted to marry or (iii) he felt you expected marriage?

Do you feel you create an environment that enables him to freely express himself?

Note: These are not attacking questions or putting the burden of blame on you, they are root-to-branch analysis of the foundation and configuration of the relationship from your perspective of how you meet his perspective and expectations. Same can be asked of him.

Modern relationship is effed up. Many men are too ball-less to dictate what they want and how the want it, and many women live a life of perceived entitlement.

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by bukatyne(f): 10:33am On Nov 25, 2014
nwababy:
Hello Nlanders, I have good News! Am so over the moon and am thankful to God for giving me a patient heart; though it wasn't easy for me then(I thought mine is always different)I didn't know that God is planning mine in a special way. I almost disconnected from things around me cos of the lingering. Is only someone in my shoe that will understand how I feel. Meanwhile, the good news is multiple sha. God indeed maketh all things beautiful in his time. I thank God that I didn't persuade my fiance (though I tried severally lol I abi trouble maker oh I even reminded him of how almost all my suitors has married is well sha) the Uncle turned out to be nice and acted the role of a father very well on the introduction day. (Sponsered everything they came with monetary wise, it was a surprise) my traditional wedding has been fixed by God's grace, and am running around for the preparation no time self. Finally, God blessed my fiance with a better job now a multi national. His blessings are so enormous. Who am I that his mindful of. I only hear this kind of testimony as a story now am sharing mine. Word aren't enough to express how grateful iam to God. The white wedding shall be next year by His grace. I believe that everything shall turn out successful IJN. Baba God dalu.

Thank God for your testimony

It will be permanent in Jesus Name

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 11:06am On Nov 25, 2014
chaircover:
We understand the difference between men and women; the way you process things and the way you see things and deal with things. I have a son and a daughter and its so interesting to watch the differences. My son goes into a shop and picks something in seconds, while my daugher dily dalys just like me. We always keep her receipts just in case she wants to return the item.

So dont siddon look. I am sure that meddler wont mind you asking her questions. We are all learning.
@bold, I respect the uniqueness in your family but let me just point out here that not all women dilly dally or whatever its called. I would be greatly offended if anyone meeting me for the first time rushes to assume I am the type that will always beat about the bush or drag her feet just because I am female. Peace.
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by pickabeau1: 12:05pm On Nov 25, 2014
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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by bukatyne(f): 12:35pm On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


Okay.

Why do you want to give the relationship continuation a try?

Why do you think your relationship is for him?

What do you think you bring into the relationship that makes you deserve him being exclusive with you?

How do you see your ability in making him happy?

Did he marry you because (i) he wanted to marry you or (ii) he wanted to marry or (iii) he felt you expected marriage?

Do you feel you create an environment that enables him to freely express himself?

Note: These are not attacking questions or putting the burden of blame on you, they are root-to-branch analysis of the foundation and configuration of the relationship from your perspective of how you meet his perspective and expectations. Same can be asked of him.

Modern relationship is effed up. Many men are too ball-less to dictate what they want and how the want it, and many women live a life of perceived entitlement.

Strange in this stance as her husband cheated on her and not the other way round.

It is not women who think they have the right to cheat and not be cheated on in marriage
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 12:39pm On Nov 25, 2014
bukatyne:


Strange in this stance as her husband cheated on her and not the other way round.

It is not women who think they have the right to cheat and not be cheated on in marriage

chaircover, you see wetin I dey say? grin grin grin grin grin grin

Okay, but women think they have a right/entitlement to a man's commitment? grin
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by zengurl: 12:43pm On Nov 25, 2014
I got married 2009 and I noticed that my husband and I did not appear at the registry for the court thing, We only paid a lady some amount and gave her our names passport photos and she brought the forms for us to take to the church. She said we needed to fill the form in the church and return back to her.

We are just curious. Is this court thing real how do we verify this...

Anyone with any information. I really want to verify this.
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by veave(f): 12:44pm On Nov 25, 2014
fellis:
@bold, I respect the uniqueness in your family but let me just point out here that not all women dilly dally or whatever its called. I would be greatly offended if anyone meeting me for the first time rushes to assume I am the type that will always beat about the bush or drag her feet just because I am female. Peace.


Did you read what you put in bold well? Abi you be the daughter, or you just wan find trouble ni? Or you don't understand english? undecided

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 12:48pm On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


chaircover, you see wetin I dey say? grin grin grin grin grin grin

Okay, but women think they have a right/entitlement to a man's commitment? grin


Men don't?
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 12:49pm On Nov 25, 2014
carefreewannabe:



Men don't?


They do. But women do more.
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by zengurl: 12:52pm On Nov 25, 2014
I got married 2009 and I noticed that my husband and I did not appear at the registry for the court thing, We only paid a lady some amount and gave her our names passport photos and she brought the forms for us to take to the church. She said we needed to fill the form in the church and return back to her.

We are just curious. Is this court thing real how do we verify the certificate given to us to be sure its not fake...

Anyone with any information. I really want to verify this.
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 12:54pm On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


They do. But women do more.

He married her. Marriage is commitment. If he didn't want to commit, he should not have married her. It is simple, it is common sense.

You don't want commitment, don't expect it either. Fair play.

Men want to eat their cake and have it. Unfair creatures. grin

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 1:04pm On Nov 25, 2014
carefreewannabe:


He married her. Marriage is commitment. If he didn't want to commit, he should not have married her. It is simple, it is common sense.

You don't want commitment, don't expect it either. Fair play.

Men want to eat their cake and have it. Unfair creatures. grin

chaircover, you see why I like to siddon watch. See as they crawl out with their sense of entitlements and "men have responsibilities". grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

You will hear a lot of "should, should, should", when reality they face is "would". grin

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by bukatyne(f): 1:04pm On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


chaircover, you see wetin I dey say? grin grin grin grin grin grin

Okay, but women think they have a right/entitlement to a man's commitment? grin

@bold: What did you say?

Partners have a right and entitlement to their spouses' commitment. I am entitled to my husband's commitment and my husband is entitled to my commitment.

If I am not ready to commit, marriage is not by force.

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 1:07pm On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


chaircover, you see why I like to siddon watch. See as they crawl out with their sense of entitlements and "men have responsibilities". grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

You will hear a lot of "should, should, should", when reality they face is "would". grin

It doesn't change the fact that men want to eat their cake and have it. When confronted, they will find excuses such as men are polygamous by nature, a woman has no libido. grin

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 1:11pm On Nov 25, 2014
bukatyne:


@bold: What did you say?

Partners have a right
and entitlement to their spouses' commitment. I am entitled to my husband's commitment and my husband is entitled to my commitment.

If I am not ready to commit, marriage is not by force.


Is that under the UN Declaration of Human rights? grin

Sagamite:

I don't like to comment too much on issues like hers because I would be direct and logical; not insulting, victimising or attacking. But I would ask her questions that would query her position, not support her just because she feels wronged.

Most women are not receptive to such facts or objectivity, they just want people like you to listen and give words of support and encouragement. undecided

You are doing a good job in giving her what she wants to hear. Saga Saga does not follow that line, so I go siddon look. cheesy
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 1:16pm On Nov 25, 2014
carefreewannabe:


It doesn't change the fact that men want to eat their cake and have it. When confronted, they will find excuses such as men are polygamous by nature, a woman has no libido. grin

How many men do the average woman plan to and want to sleep with?

How many does the average man?
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 1:28pm On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


How many men do the average woman plan to and want to sleep with?

How many does the average man?

Even if the average man wants to sleep with a 1000 women and the average woman with only 10, does not change the fact that he wants to do it but wants her to control her desire to sleep if only with five.

They want to eat their cake and have it.

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Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Sagamite(m): 1:30pm On Nov 25, 2014
carefreewannabe:


Even if the average man wants to sleep with a 1000 women and the average woman with only 10, does not change the fact that he wants to do it but wants her to control her desire to sleep if only with five.

They want to eat their cake and have it.

Now we are confident you are aware men are more polygamous. cheesy
Re: Counselling: Strictly For Couples And Intending Couples! by Nobody: 1:33pm On Nov 25, 2014
Sagamite:


Now we are confident you are aware men are more polygamous. cheesy

And that gives them the right to expect their wives to be faithful when they are not?

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