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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:39pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
EVarn: You are using free fall bombs. The evidence is the civilian property that your military destroyed as a result of unguided munition. None of your fighters can discharge precision guided munitions including missiles. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:42pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
Patchesagain:The new Abrams are totally different and can be classified as new tanks. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:46pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
mzilakazi:there was once a thread filled with dumb saffers,but the young man,mzilakazi,was the dumbest of them all [-an excerpt from "chatting with fools" by evarn]. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:54pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
mzilakazi:havent we trashed this already.i've lectured you so many times that our F7 jets can discharge a barrage of missiles enough to pulverize south african into a cornflakes republic. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:56pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
patches689: Okay I agree with you that... South African brain = cheap orange Russian brain = expensive apple . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:00pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
agaugust:Name the radar and provide a source that proves it is installed on your ATR-42. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:06pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
agaugust:Ingwe can penetrate 1000m+. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:14pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
patches689:EMPTY POST AS USUAL |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:17pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
[quote author=patches689 post=28369279][/quote] Didn't this bloke claim to be an economist |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:30pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
EVarn: That's not what the Chief (general) sees. The person with the right information. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:47pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
agaugust: We buying a spy sat with our money and the nuke deal is a offer, france, UK, US and others where offerd the deal to. No purches had been made. Again no begging was done at any time. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:53pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
patches689: ZSU23mm. It a russian AAA They tried to make the BMP2 proofed all round to 12.7mm. But actual combat has shown this to be somthing a AFV weighting only 14 tones can not do. I have the brocher of the russian arms company that sells the BMP2. They only list it has protected against small arms. Same has our casspir and mamba. The BMP2 is a down grade frome a ratel Ratel 20 has better protecstion and moblitie BMP2 has better fire power. The ratel 90 is better in every way. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:56pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
EVarn: 2 drop tanks and 2 AAMs and the F7 could not even reach waterkloof if it took off in cape town. The F7 has no guided weapons for ground attack, limmted air attack. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:58pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
agaugust: Witch airforce. Some x USSR state that has no airforce? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:10pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
mzilakazi:pfft,your precious gripens would hit the ground in flaming heaps when our F7s start discharging the vengeance of armageddon on your half-grounded airforce fleet. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:20pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
andrewza:catfish.a few F7s would r@pe your fleet into the ground,and bottle the juices. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 8:34pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
EVarn: More like 2 gripens would be enough to fend you off. The F7 is not that good. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:41pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
andrewza:i know what i know.if you still believe in falacies,then so be it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:07pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
patches689: LOL, your own favorite Scorpion jet purchase interest source quoting NAF Air Marshal Ojuawo, he said ATR-42 is doing ISTAR operations. Your favorite source, LOL. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:15pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
agaugust: Does not mean it is a ISTAR platform. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:25pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
patches689: Back again to your favorite Scorpion jet source....he did not say the obsolete aircraft is the F-7 jet, if the whole of NAF is obsolete, what of ATR-42 and Mi-35M Hind E ? So like most air forces of this world NAF has some obsolete aircraft, same way SAAF flies around in obsolete 66 year old Dakota MPA aircraft falling down from the sky like Pigeon birds sh.ot down and k.illing SAAF officers abd pilots like chicken. F-7 is a 3.5th Generation jet with 4th Generation radar and 4th Generation missiles, not being able to fire guided ground attack PGMs does not make it obsolete same way the modern year 2012 JF-17 Thunder Block I 4th Generation not having air to air refuelling capability does not make it obsolete. NAF F-7NI is primarily an interceptor and secondarily a ground attacker, it is good at its air to air guided missile combat role within visual range and stuck in the same WVR combat capability as SAAF Gripen is equally stuck with its similar short range missile dilema. We are both inferior together, get it ? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:55pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
AugustineAgain:No, the final comes from the QEM(original equipment manufacture). |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:05pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
andrewza: It is ISR by manufacturer spec data sheet. It can lock on target and relay its full location data to an attacker platform. "Target acquisition is the detection, identification, and location of a target in sufficient detail to permit the effective employment of lethal and non-lethal means. The term is used for a broad area of applications" Source -Wiki An ISR that can lock on target and keep relaying it's location accurately is doing Target Acquisition and its ISR becomes ISTAR. NAF ATR-42 is an ISTAR aircraft along with NAF Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR aircraft, the ATR-42 is multi-role ISR, ISTAR, and MPA all combined . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 10:34pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
EVarn: WTF |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:44pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
ActivateKruger:??surprised?? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:48pm On Nov 26, 2014 |
patches689: @THIZA has posted photos of ordinary gun armed Ratels with NO missiles, most of the photos in the world prove that SANDF has mostly gun armed Ratels, we see that from free internet photos. SANDF website simply used the best photo to represent other Ratels, and to close the case finally, your own respected South African source Defenceweb says you have ONLY about 50 Ratel ZT-3, even a fool will laugh at you, or you want to tell us defenceweb posted fraudulent numbers of Ratel ZT-3 ? Butt Hurt MikeCZAR: Like DENEL manufactured Mokopa missile which SANDF refused to order because the missile is useless. LOL .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 12:15am On Nov 27, 2014 |
agaugust: Does not mean any thing really. We no the true numzbers and rang and so do you. You just don't want to accept the truth Sa is still planing on buying Mokopa |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 12:17am On Nov 27, 2014 |
agaugust: the atr has no means to proscute targets are provide guidance for a third part they can look but not touch |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 12:27am On Nov 27, 2014 |
ActivateKruger:I wonder what happened to "NIGERIAN DON'T LIKE/TAKE HANDOUTS"? :/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:11am On Nov 27, 2014 |
patches689: HERE YOU ARE, FVCKING MA.D MAN ! "On 18 May 2014, Swiss voters rejected a government plan to buy 22 Saab Gripen fighters for 3.1 billion francs (US$3.5 billion) to replace 54 aging F-5 Tigers of the Swiss Air Force. In response, Textron Airland president Bill Anderson offered the Scorpion to fill the Swiss Air Force's needs. He claimed it was cheaper than the Gripen and performed 90 percent of required tasks like airspace surveillance and intelligence. Though Anderson suggested the deal, no official offer for Switzerland to buy the Scorpion has been made.[36] In July 2014, the Scorpion made its first public appearance at the Farnborough International Airshow.[18] Preliminary discussion have been held with the militaries of Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines, Indonesia, Bahrain, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, with Malaysia and Brunei seen as the most likely customers. In November 2014, sources confirmed that the United Arab Emirates had held discussions with Textron." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textron_AirLand_Scorpion |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:14am On Nov 27, 2014 |
patches689: Same way, MiG-21 and F-7....different name, different manufacturer, different generation, different wings, different radar, different avionics, different ECM, different engine, different missiles, different combat foes when you meet them in the air... |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:29am On Nov 27, 2014 |
patches689: NAF is not counting hours to boast, we now count combat sorties, if you count hours, NAF pilots have more hours than NATO pilots today, we are flying every hour combat, logistics, ISTAR, etc missions. I cannot fond the total sorties for NAF 2014 as the report is deep somewhere on this thread among many hundreds of comments. However, I will post for one single NAF operation called Zaman Lafiya that had NAF flying over a thousand sorties in a just very few months around May 2014 : [size=14pt] "The Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Adesola Amosu, who made the observation yesterday at the opening of the NAF May 2014 operations seminar in Uyo, Akwa Ibom State, said since the commencement of ‘Operation Zaman Lafia,’ to contain Boko Haram in the North Eastern part of the country, well over 1,148 missions have been conducted in the prosecution of the air effort. “These include over 644 ground attack/close air support missions, more than 332 for reconnaissance/surveillance as well as over 172 for airlift and troop rotation. This sustained high tempo of operations is unprecedented in NAF and indeed, worthy of commendation,” he said." http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=65414 PHOTO : NIGERIAN & PAKISTANI AIR FORCES JOINT COMBAT TRAINING [/size]
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