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Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 4:41pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
again, i need to know. what can you pastorkun, dorox, weah96, ovacoma. what can you tell/teach me about Muhammad, Jesus, Islam, Christianity, Moses? tell me something. you can quote from bible and quran, while you quote, you should explain the verses that you quote. it is my learning minute. about holy spirit too. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 4:44pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Another daft question |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 4:46pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: What exactly do you want to learn? |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 4:46pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
do you understand the question? quoting or copying and pasting the bible verses does not make you a christian. so are you are christian or muslim or the others? PastorKun: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 4:49pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
lets start with how Jesus create christianity, and How is Jesus the son of GOD? PastorKun: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by dorox(m): 4:55pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano:I have no qualms with someone who does not eat pork because their religion forbids it, but to claim that eating pork makes someone stup!d is just not supported by fact. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 5:00pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
ooooh! ok. facts dorox: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by Weah96: 5:08pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: All the material things in life that provide you comfort and make your life easier were designed by people who ate roasted swine meat at backyard barbeque get-to-togethers. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by Weah96: 5:10pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: What is so hard to believe about that? I have a fellow Muslim on another thread right now telling me that Allah is a man like me. A superior man. That's like the same idea. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 5:20pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: You are derailing the thread, why don't you create another thread for your questions. This thread seeks to expose islamic teachings that encourage terrorism so address the issue at hand and stop derailing. 1 Like |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 5:30pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
who made your life easier? i know who made mine so marvellous. i can lay my life and the lives of my unborn grandchildren down, that he who made my life and the lives of my yet unborn great grandchildren will never eat a pork meat, not even by a long deceit or mistake. all the material things that you whine about and kill one another for is made from the created things that ALLAH with his own hands created. Weah96: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 5:31pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
it is this same thread, i told you so, and i stand by it that GOD is a supreme MAN. He can't just be other than a Man. Weah96: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 5:38pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
You see, i have been trapped inside the house of ALLAH, i feel very comfortable there. Now that you all think he is a devil, Use the knowledge that Jesus impounded on you through his teaching to get me away from ALLAH'S house. PastorKun: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 6:07pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Who is allah |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 6:16pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
ALLAH is the one and only GOD, besides HIM, there is no other. He created everything, including the air that you breathing as you are reading. ALLAH got me with him, not that i'm that righteous or good, i'm not holy, yet HE is ever forgiving and merciful. Now, if you think i'm in the wrong place, i dare you and the god that you serve to remove me from the bosom/house of ALLAH. Use the bible to convince a muslim to convert. PastorKun: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 6:17pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
who is the son of GOD? and how Weah96: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by Weah96: 6:22pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Is he a white man or a black man? |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by Weah96: 6:23pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: I wasn't arguing with you, simply translating the comment you didn't understand. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 6:26pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
How does that matter? if ALLAH was the first MAN, what hue would he have been? Weah96: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by Weah96: 6:29pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Black. But do the Arab people know that? |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 6:36pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
How can you tell for sure? Weah96: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by Weah96: 6:46pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Yea, you're right. LOL. Doesn't it ever come up though? You know, conversations about the scientific origins of man? Do they teach those things in the Islamic schools? I'm asking because Arabs don't seem to have too high of an opinion for black people. Allah aside, they are racist. You couldn't marry a girl from a poor Saudi family even if you were an Imam who resembles Denzel. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 6:52pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Contrary to your assertions, I read from ancient Arabic sources that allah is the ancient moon god worshipped by abdallah(mohammed's father). Mohammed merely 'promoted' allah to the status of the creator by adopting jewish scripture, remixing it and substituting Yaweh for allah. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 6:59pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Lolz, continue to delude yourself. I am almost certain that your children talkless of your grand children like most muslim children born in the last four decades would convert to christianity. it's not too late for you yourself to retrace your steps and leave that religion that was established and spread with violence to the one that was established based on God's love. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 7:05pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
xaxaxaxaxaxaxa, laugh won kill me. true Blackman is the first, he is the owner of the earth and not just that, the entire universe. 3 generations after Muhammad died, the muslim started accepting and teaching the greek philosophy of the incorporeality of GOD. every other races hate the fact that only the black people will eventually inherit everything. it is this teaching that produces (incorporeality of GOD) all the things you see today likw wars, terrorism (it is in all the races and religion). what then is the religion of the Blackman? it is Islam, it had always has been for millions of years, not the islam of arab, But the Islam of the original man, aboriginal blackman or asiatic blackman. look at every black people on earth, we must believe in something, we are naturally religious because we are born righteous (sex is not a sin, sex by love and in marriage). this is where people call me total crazy, and i really do not care, for i know it is the truth. and it is that a black muslims who is naturally righteous, if he should turn unto his own and father, like the prodigal son, he would take back the universe for himself. in order for this blackman not to take Islam back, they had to make a not ok islam look really bad that the blackman would run to all other religion other than Islam. christianity was not made good, but the blackman has taken it and refaction it more better than the white people, except that they still don't understand its symbolism. the white twisted it pretty well before they brought it out by john wycliff in 1380. the question is, if the blackman was the greatest, and still is, what then happened to him? what is happening to him? Weah96: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 7:07pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
that won't happen, you will eventually come back to daddy. for sure, your children will be muslims. brother, i'm saying it for sure! without violence of any sort. PastorKun: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 7:09pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
where did you read this from, The moon is a dead piece of earth rock. it is dead, why will ALLAH WANT TO BE GOD OF THAT, WHEN HE IS THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE NOW AND FOREVER? so brother, proof your source! it is true that ALLAH took the earth from the moon, do you know how, why and when? PastorKun: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 7:29pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: God forbid bad thing, my generation both born and unborn belong to Jesus. They would never leave light for darkness in Jesus name. |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 7:31pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Why don't you prove that allah is a god, talkless of being God of the universe? |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by basilico: 7:41pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
PastorKun: Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Where Islam is dominant (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism. The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. This is why Muslim apologists speak of the "risks" of trying to interpret the Quran without their "assistance" - even while claiming that it is a perfect book. Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam's Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran. So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself. Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives . He actually inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered. It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion's most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades following his death. The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to attack in self-defense, this is an oxymoron that is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Muhammad. Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day marriage". One of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way." Elsewhere, he notes: "Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s religion and it is for the whole world. It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form of institutions and traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to release human beings from their poisonous influences, which distort human nature and curtail human freedom. Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the defense of the 'homeland of Islam' diminish the greatness of the Islamic way of life." The widely respected Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad as "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Qur'an and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims…[Quoting from the Hanafi school, Hedaya, 2:140, 141.], " The destruction of the sword is incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors , as appears from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this effect." Dr. Salah al-Sawy, the chief member of the Assembly of Muslim Jurists in America, stated in 2009 that " the Islamic community does not possess the strength to engage in offensive jihad at this time," tacitly affirming the legitimacy of violence for the cause of Islamic rule - bound only by the capacity for success. ( source) Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best first fought to keep remote tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their preferred religion (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then, within the closer community, early Meccan converts battled later ones. Hostility developed between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this day. The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual repression, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and represses criticism. This is what makes the Quran's verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in their holy book, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to contradict them - outside of opinion. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non- Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret their religion in this way. Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam's most respected philosophers, understood that "the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force", many other Muslims are either unaware or willfully ignorant of the Quran's near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence. Their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for believers to think that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn that the evidence of the Quran and the bloody history of Islam are very much in contradiction to this. Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being too Westernized. A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury for not understanding the "culture", claiming that the father was merely following "the religion" and saying that the couple had to "discipline their daughter or lose respect." ( source ). In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders of civilians, women and children explicitly in the name of Allah were treated to a luxurious "holy pilgrimage" to Mecca by the Saudi king - without a single Muslim voice raised in protest. For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous. There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by gatiano(m): 7:42pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
Jesus belonged to ALLAH. without ALLAH, there is no Jesus. without ALLAH, you would have no air to breath. your children, grandchildren will be Muslims. except if ALLAH wills it that you die eternally. tell me what does living eternally means? PastorKun: |
Re: Why Most Terrorists Are Muslims. by PastorKun(m): 10:35pm On Nov 27, 2014 |
gatiano: Stop talking rubbish, Jesus does not even know or recognise allah. Allah is mohammed's idea. |
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