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Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 8:25pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
asalimpo: Thanks for all your insults and name calling I don't argue scripture I speak from what I know and what I have had my eyes opened up to I don't condemn you Do as you wish,I choose to be led by my spiritual convictions not by laws to please you My posts here are mainly for those who wish to be open and to them I say ,go and read up on tithes Nobody taught me anything I said here I read it and was convinced long before I ever heard any anti tithing preaching |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by asalimpo(m): 8:49pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
PastorKun: Not one tithe preacher could explain, probably because they didnt understand it and were probably reading it for the first time. It boggled their mind. Why would God put a chapter endorsing eating the tithe? How dyu explain this in d light of other chapters tht show tht you pay it? Mayb with more prayer/research they will soon find d truth. But in context,rather than in isolation, that chapter does'nt establish any grounds for abrogating the tithe. Two, the bible is like a gold mine, some truths take more effort to excavate than others. And theyre still more treasures to discover. Man will never plumb d depth of God's word cuz God is infinite in wisdom. But the principle for interpreting scripture are clear. 1) the truth is contextually consistent. All scriptures on a subject must generally agree or come to a convergence on the truth. 2) more witness confirm d truth. One and two is okay for typical logical deductions (surface mining) but in knottier cases, only the illumination of the Holy Spirit (the Teacher) can crack the cloud of darkness on an issue. 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by asodeboyede(m): 8:55pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
@op, My brother avoid them the scripture must be fulfilled! They can't heed you, they need a touch from high! I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Lilimax(f): 8:58pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
babyosisi:Giving and tithing are spiritual excercise that Christians should practice and both have their different blessings. Give and it shall be given unto you.... ; Pay your tithe and God will rebuke the devourers for your sake. The two spiritual principles cannot replace each other. 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 9:04pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
Lilimax: Can you spend a little time Use a concordance and read every scripture on tithing or tithes. I doubt if you have ever done this. Please do. The bible enjoins us to study That is what opened my eyes.nobody told me this I learned it from the bible. The one time Christ who is the fulfilment of the law spoke on tithes he was addressing hypocrites and pleasers of men. Of all the teachings of Christ on christian living to his people with parables, not a single one on tithes but countless on giving and the blessings if it. God rebukes the devourer on my behalf under grace if you keep one law u are liable to them all I am not under that bondage |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Lilimax(f): 9:15pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
babyosisi:I had done several research on tithing especially when I newly gave my life to Christ. Having been raised a Catholic, I was not used to tithing hence the need to know more? From my research, I concluded that tithing is btw me and God. Till date, my obedience to tithing does wonders to me. 2 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 9:21pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
Lilimax: Did you read the portion on deut 14 about eating the tithe which the man of God here is unable to understand |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by asalimpo(m): 9:34pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
babyosisi: I'm not calling you names,though i'm being forthright. The anti-tithe crowd claim to b motivated by the bible, yet from your responses here it's apparent you guyz are clearly interpreting the scripture wrongly. Here are d popular points: 1.) the tithe is under d law and d law is done away with. Question: wen was the era of the law? Wen did it begin? Question: if something occured bf d law was given , how can tht b logically established as being under the law? Question: Do you practice/believe in child dedication, things dedication? Thtat's so OT. 2) There's no mention of tithe in the NT Question: what about matth23:23 and Heb7? 3) have you seen any verse from the epistles on tithe? Question: Does an affirmative reply to this question make the conclusion correct? 3.) Jesus didnt receive tithe in the NT Question: wat was Jesus Mission on earth? How was He operating on earth? 4) the NT talks about sowing and giving gladly. That's all? Question: was the tithe ever the same as an offering? Is the tithe ever regarded as a seed? 5) pastors embezzle the tithe so i'm not paying Question: will God buy tht excuse from you? Is your pastor accountable to you for how he uses God's resources? Who are you tithing to-God or Man? Under scriptural and logical scrutiny ur arguments crumble. Yet anti tithers still cling on to it. 2 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 9:50pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
You claimed ignorance in the scripture about eating of the tithes and yet you are so knowledgeable in the paying of tithes Lol you are very funny 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by asalimpo(m): 9:52pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
babyosisi: the bolded. The one time Jesus spoke about the tithe, He ENDORSED IT. He never CONDEMNED their tithing. Never! qoute matth23:23. Girl,you're sly!. How dyu read Matth23:23 and come up with such an interpretation? The bible says you should not only study but rightly divide the word of truth! Many people hav studied d word but only to come up with heretical doctrines tht have mislead many. Just like your interpretation of matth23:23 and your side stepping of Heb7:8 2 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by asalimpo(m): 10:00pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
babyosisi:i said y most pastors may avoid the chapter you said endorses eating the tithe. I wasnt speaking for myself. But if i dont know , i explained that the very principles for interpreting d scriptures still doesnt support your viewpoint. As a counter example, is God a liar? There's a verse where It appears tht He colluded with an evil spirit to pull a king down? Please by your one lone scripture rule explain d character of God using that instance? Can u? Or are u going to side step this question *typical of you*? 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 10:07pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
asalimpo: Jesus was speaking to hypocrites and keepers of the law and his emphasis was on the weightier things they ought to do rather than on tithes.read it.it is there in your Bible.Stop deceiving people by interpreting scriptures falsely. Despite their tithing he called them hypocrites and snakes and vipers and whitewashed tombs ,condemned to hell ,why? the emphasis was not on the law of paying tithes but on their deceptions thinking tithes would save them I would rather dwell on the weightier things No where in the scriptures with Jesus were sinners or the sick Jesus encountered asked to go and pay tithes. Read your bible with understanding. the part I highlighted in red is the clincher he referred to their action as straining a gnat to swallow a camel. That wasn't a compliment despite their tithing it was a big rebuke matt 23 |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 10:37pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
More on how tithes should be carried out Deut. 14:28-29 (NIV) At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. has any Church every 3 years obeyed this law?how many times has any church every three years called the widows and fatherless and strangers to come and eat of the tithes of that year? I guess our resident tithe preacher will tell us the pastors don't understand this part yet ![]() It is pretty explicit IMHO but no, they prefer to pick and choose portions to suit them, putting themselves in the position of levites when they are not. Levites have no inheritance in the land, neither do priests but our pastors own lands ,homes and cars and businesses and jets but want to be treated like levites with no inheritance and no source of livelihood besides the tithes. |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 10:44pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
Neh. 10:37-39 (NIV) “Moreover, we will bring to the storerooms of the house of our God, to the priests, the first of our ground meal, of our grain offerings, of the fruit of all our trees and of our new wine and oil. And we will bring a tithe of our crops to the Levites, for it is the Levites who collect the tithes in all the towns where we work. A priest descended from Aaron is to accompany the Levites when they receive the tithes, and the Levites are to bring a tenth of the tithes up to the house of our God, to the storerooms of the treasury. The people of Israel, including the Levites, are to bring their contributions of grain, new wine and oil to the storerooms where the articles for the sanctuary are kept and where the ministering priests, the gatekeepers and the singers stay. “We will not neglect the house of our God.” from the scripture above,we see that all the tithes, that mandatory 10% went to the servants of the temple i.e levites the levites in turn gave a tithe from all their collection (that is a tenth of the tenth) to the priest for the storehouse who are the levites today? answer: we have no levites Paul and the NT preachers were supported not by tithes but by freewill offering as the NT taught The resurgence of tithing was to increase contributions in the church not as a biblical injunction |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 11:06pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
Also we never heard of Christ paying tithes why? Jesus was a carpenter by trade Tithes were only to be paid by farmers and herdsmen not fishermen,it was clear in the law on tithes They also tithed their first born child,why are tithe preachers excluding that portion when they demand tithes? craftsmen ,silver or goldsmiths or builders and dressmakers paid no tithes not even lawyers like Paul or doctors Tithe was never of money but of agric produce and animals only, it is clear in the OT Money was in use at that time, so the argument that everyone was a farmer is false, Joseph was sold for money and so was Jesus The very scripture on Deuteronomy that talked of eating tithes also talked about exchanging for money if the things were too heavy to carry a long distance then using it to purchase the stuff to be eaten we read of denarii and shekels of silver as money. People read your Bible and don't allow people deceive you into legalism Lastly strangers and gentiles didn't pay tithes It was specifically for the house of Israel the Jews Today the Jews don't pay tithes and their reason is that the Rabbi are not levites, there are no levitical priests today in Israel the rabbi and work in the synagogue is supported solely by freewill offering in the synagogues but our pastors far away from Israel have placed themselves in the position of levites? How deceptive 2 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 11:28pm On Dec 01, 2014 |
asalimpo: I missed this burnt offering also preceded the law,why don't you do that? also marrying of multiple wives, or going into your maidservants like abram did. you see that your argument holds no water Abraham we never read gave a tithe of his cattle or farm produce and he was a very rich man he offered burnt offering and we read one time where he gave tithe of the spoils of war and then also gave the other 90% remainder away to a pagan king do you also do that? If Abraham is your prime example of tithing when last did you tithe on your plunders from a war and give out the rest of the 90% to a pagan King.this is why I say you tithe preachers are dishonest by picking and choosing what suits you in all the tithe examples. Why don't you do it as it is written? Who are you to device your own method of tithing and still call it tithes? the law of tithing as stipulated in the OT from one's own crops and herd came after Abraham Jacob made God a vow and that vow included a tithe if God did what he asked ,we didn't read that it was a monthly or annual practice for him Read your Bible please the rest of your questions are pretty irrelevant to the discus 4 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by PastorKun(m): 8:18am On Dec 02, 2014 |
babyosisi: On the contrary after studying and being sure of my position on tithes, I told everyone that cared to listen (and even those that didn't want to listen ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by PastorKun(m): 8:30am On Dec 02, 2014 |
asalimpo: There is nothing inconsistent about deut 14 and your favourite malachi 3:8-11. Infact deut 14 explains it well. What is inconsistent is the twisted tithe interpretation taught in churches today. Tithes is clearly defined as food even in malachi, I challenge you to give us one single verse in the bible that defines tithes as money from income. If you can't then you should begin to realise that it is the modern church definition of tithes that is inconsistent with scriptures and not deut 14. 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 10:06am On Dec 02, 2014 |
@babyosisi, Thank you for dutifully exposing the fraud that is this thread. Have a great day madam. 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 10:17am On Dec 02, 2014 |
babyosisi: haha haha The Jews who this Law was given to have abandoned paying tithe this day. How interesting. They tell us that it belings to God and the pastor should collect it. Despite notions to the contrary on who should collect tithe as laid down in the bible. They tell us the Israelites were strictly farmers so income should mean where you earn your livelihood so money shoukd be your tithe. But they hide the fact that money existed even in the so-called agrarian society. Both tithe collectors and their defenders are greedy,self-serving, belly worshipping, mammon-driven liars. End of. 4 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 1:57pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
StarBoard: Having said all that,there is nothing wrong with a church pastor or elders getting together after viewing the revenue in the church and appealing to the congregation to give 10% or 8% or 5% of their income to run the church smoothly.i will respect that act of honesty and forthrightness .Paul commended the brethren for gathering up the donations before he came.a workman is worthy of his wages ,the Bible says. But standing on the pulpit and telling a church that they owe God a certain percentage of their monetary income is fraudulent,everything we own belongs to God.i have heard some say that when you give the 10% ,God sanctifies the 90% and the ever popular verse of being cursed with a curse.God is not cursing anyone,the blood of Jesus has set us free from curses.They are lying. They have taken this to very ridiculous extents just to intimidate people to surrender their money People fall sick and a man of God tells them they withheld their tithes They have a misfortune happen,someone asks if they have been eating their tithes I have heard with my two ears a man of God who refused to pray for someone after he asked if the person was a faithful tither and they said no. The bible says in this world we will have tribulations and trials but that we should be of good cheer and that is everyone including tithe payers.No one is immune from hard and trying times. If they are sincere they will tell you their tithe preachings has absolutely nothing to do with the blessings on the tither but everything to do with the increase in their pockets and the luxury that follows.if it were not so they would not ask for money which was never tithed in the bible and they would allow the people eat their tithes in the presence of The Lord and gather widows and orphans every three years and share the tithes as instructed. Let any of those tithers run into a financial problem and go to that same church for help,all they will do is pray for you for the most part and wish you well while your tithe is making profit in a fixed account of which him and his wife are signatories. 3 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 2:18pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
Jews don't pay tithes today,someone did a research Having read the letter, I began to share her concern. To resolve the matter I telephoned three rabbis in the Los Angeles area for their explanation. Much to my dismay, all three independently of each other informed me that no religious Jew should tithe today. I was startled at their replies. This appeared to be evidence that the Jews were so lax with their biblical interpretation that they were abandoning even the simple words of their own Scripture about the laws of tithing. http://www.askelm.com/tithing/thi003.htm |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 4:29pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
babyosisi: hahaha. it gets even better with this lady. Just one point of note:the pastors do not even have the right to levy the congregation. Firstly it is the duty of the pastor to look after the flock as Jesus commanded Peter to after his resurrection. Paul wrote that let everyone give according to what he has determined as God loves a cheerful giver. So giving any kind of portion is plain wrong by me. I think that these so called Pastors have filled themselves with all other things except the Holy Spirit hence they resort to man-made methods such as this tithe scam through coercion and intimidation to provide for the ministry. I look at the parallels between Christ's ministry where they seemed to have just about enough to the point where he didnt have a place to lay his head and today's pentecostal movement where pastors own several properties and jets and the like. It only goes to show that today, the main thing is mammon and more mammon. As you have highlighted these people haave been dishonest to the point where theyfeel it is pertinent to demand from their congregation and good portion of the proceeds is used on other things not related to running the church or parish as it were. Case in point: I used to worship in a parish in RCCG. if you know they church they have this zonal arrangement. the zone in which my parish belongs deemed it fit to get a plot of land near the zonal hq. Guess where funding was going to come from?Your guess is as good as mine. The congregation in that zone was going to raise the cash. Now they came with the usual strategy sharing slips for those interested. In my mind I was asking what the tithes and offering that have been collected sunday after sunday (in the case of my parish two services) have been used for.This should have been a decent opportunity to put it to use assuming that the project was necessary. |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 4:31pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
babyosisi:You just nailed the money-can-be-paid-as-tithe argument. I thank you. 2 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by dein77(m): 4:45pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
StarBoard: Thanks for the inputs so far. The RCCG administration is really flawed. I do worship there ATM. Almost everything gathered from the local parishes are forwarded to KM 46. Hence there's little or nothing left to handle local projects like land, building or equipment. Almost everything is forwarded to KM 46. |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 4:47pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
babyosisi:Abraham was never recorded to have tithed after that singular one. As you said he had cattle and sheep but gave one of things plundered from a war as you already know. Jacob was recorded to have made a vow to give a tenth of all he had if God heard his prayer and delivered him.But the Bible never revorded where Jacob fulfilled this vow. I have told this fellow all this previously. Apparently he is dead set on repeating the lie that tithing predated the law hoping that it will become truth by some means. I have told him to copy Abrahams examples of fornication. His response is that nobody is perfect. Yet we Christian s have a perfect living example in Jesus but fella would rather justify Abraham being the real reason why Christianity exists even going as far as saying that there would be no Christianity without Abraham and that Abraham was before Christ. I think you should save your energy srguimg with this fellow. Someone who is prepared to twist the facts as regards the very essence of what he believes in will easily and gladly twist scripture in defence of tithe. You have done an excellent job in deconstructing and demobilising his argument probably better than anyone so far;and any ready with s clear discerning mind would see the real truth of the matter. Bless you. |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 4:51pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
StarBoard: I started a thread sometime ago on the various scams these people run I will not let anyone 419 me out of my money if The Lord is not speaking to me. One day after listening to a mega church pastor outline his vision of building a recreation and civic center in addition to the church and elementary school they currently have,I shook my head as they handed out envelopes for seed offering and pledges How thinner can these pastors stretch the already stretched congregation If I as babyosisi wants to build a civic center,I will walk up to the bank and ask for a loan and perhaps use my house as a collateral Why do pastors of these one man churches hide under " thus says The Lord" to extort money from struggling people? I have absolutely no stake in the elementary school he already has I will have no stake whatsoever in the civic center and recreation facility Why would a man and his wife decide on a new business venture but they come to me and other worshipers to fund their dream Isn't that a korokoro fraud? They don't offer me any shares in the business but I am expected to fund it? That is wrong We are actually the ones enabling these charlatans by endorsing everything they tell us with an Amen. People ought to speak up and tell them to fund these things themselves and stop placing undue burden on the people of God I am there to worship God not build your business empire That Church building and everything in it is his property,owned entirely by him and inheritable by his sons and daughters but when he bought the piece of land he somehow made us believe it was all ours and the church building was ours too That is lie Go and look at the deed on that property if you doubt me ,the names on it are that of his wife and children . People should wake up Serve God yes,but don't let any men manipulate you and turn you to a mugu Some eediots will even neglect the care of their aged parents and sick relatives because someone has brainwashed them that it is better to pay tithes and several offerings than take care of their sick old parents.where did that come from? A church will be gathering millions in offering but will fail to employ people to sweep or clean the church They will still want free labor from women and men who are expected to leave their homes on Saturdays to go and clean Where did we learn this from? In America churches hire janitors and pay them to clean In all my years here,I have never been asked to come and clean any church,the only time i heard it was from a Nigerian congregation. Churches here pay musicians If the pastor is paid,why not the guitarist and keyboardist They want everything for free even when the church is buoyant,why are the ministers not working for free? Their wives and children are on the payroll but they want everyone else to work without pay. A ministry that I am volunteering with here,owned by a Nigerian asked me to buy some paper products for an event and to bring the receipts to be reimbursed.That is how to do things,you respect the people,let it be up to me to decide not to ask for reimbursement,don't automatically make that decision for me because we are in the house of God,NO. 4 Likes |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 4:54pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
dein77:You and I know that is VERY WRONG. That is one of the plethora of reasons I left. What about the needs of the local parish? Isnt it selfish to collect and send to km 46? Is it not immoral to claim that you are establishing parishes when it is obvious that the structures are being built by the congregstion? What is being done with the several millions thay come in every sunday through tithes and offerings? How come they are not even used to sort the immediate needs of the parish, let alone the needy in the parish? I think there is some serious deception going on in the area of finances. If the original poster thinks that I won't ask questions about my money all because some charlatan is involved, then this thread is dead on arrival. 1 Like |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 5:02pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
babyosisi:babyosisi, I wish there were more Christians like you. Really your brains are functioning. My wife used to go every Saturday to clean the church. RCCg sees us as "workers" and as such they issue instructions based on that ideal. So if my wife fails for any reason to go clean the church that Saturday, she is liable to querry from her head whivh if not satisfactorily answered could lead to suspension. Musicians?the last Parish pastor suspended the choir and musicians because he felt they were not "committed". I rest my case. |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 5:05pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
StarBoard: This is the reason many RCCG churches grow and the pastors eventually convert the parish to their own personal congregation and I don't blame them. The biggest Nigerian church in Houston was also the first RCCG church in HOuston Another one in Boston did same plus several others The pastors suffer and go without and when they start getting more tithes and first fruits ![]() If these pastors understand the principle and will not allow a headquarter church take away their earnings how then do the parishioners allow people con them into parting with so much of their money in the guise of doing it for God. Many of these churches have no project for evangelism into unreached places,missions ,orphans or widows and the sick Run into hard time they won't give you kobo Their only vision is expansion and bigger church buildings and bigger donations and venturing into more businesses and connections with bigger preachers,TV ministry and meeting world leaders I can put my money somewhere else where it will be appreciated |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by dein77(m): 5:12pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
StarBoard: This madly flawed administrative method is also going to be one of the reasons I'm considering leaving the RCCG. It's all hurtful and backward. Come and see the financial struggle we're experiencing in my parish! We almost singlehandedly bought the land we are on, we're still building after more than 4 years, bought all the musical instruments, etc. The most painful part is, even when we got almost nothing from the Province, we still remit about 85 % of our monthly income to the Province. This is callous. The men in my parish are already asking the right questions. We keep building KM 46 while our local members and pastors are hungry, poor and sad. They barely live decent lives. I wish to talk more....It's really depressing. But for the personal revelations given to me by Christ, I would have stopped attending any Church. I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with the whole arrangements. ... |
Re: Anti-tithe Arguments are Motivated By Selfishness And Ignorance by Nobody: 5:14pm On Dec 02, 2014 |
I challenge anyone reading to do this,I wrote it earlier Seek out some very poor families you know in your church and divide that your tithe money into 4 ,give 3 parts to each of that family and the 4th part to your church. The fulfillment of helping those families is unequaled That your money may be what they have been praying for to enable them eat that whole week You don't have to pray to know the poor people in your midst,you can see them with your eyes. The Church is not giving them a dime from what they collect It is you and I that are supposed to support them Pure religion undefiled the Bible says,is to visit the widows and orphans in their affliction and to keep our garments spotless It is not enriching an already rich pastor 3 Likes |
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