cococandy:
i did not say it is not their right to procreate. I only asked you in response to your comment that everyone should be advised to have the number of kids they can cater for. How many can all these dirty beggars on the street be advised to have. Because last I checked they can't even take care of themselves let alone another human being.

Well,at least they would want to see their own offspring.Let them have just one.

undercat:


I'm not occultic, whatever that means.

My genitals are intact for now.

My parents could not have been given jail time for having children. There is no such law in place.

You sound mad.

ok, i sound mad but you're the one advocating jail time for having children.

so, in your opinion, you're sane?

as per your genitals, why would you hide yours while advocating castration for other people's own?

are you smoking substandard somethings?

I think it's wickedness to have children you know you can't cater for .i wish we could have a system where everyone is allowed to have a maximum of 2children and anyone who wants more needs to obtain a permit after proving to the government that they can afford more kids.

Poor people having children they can't cater for is one of the biggest problems of the world. Even if the government provides social welfare there is a maximum number that the government can afford to take care of

aderonila18:
I think it's wickedness to have children you know you can't cater for .i wish we could have a system where everyone is allowed to have a maximum of 2children and anyone who wants more needs to obtain a permit after proving to the government that they can afford more kids.

you can move to china.


as per proving to the govt, do you mean proving to the likes of you?

i dont think any govt sent you message.

what I call wickedness is castigating others for being poor as if its not people's poverty some of you are building your so called "riches" on.

this is where oyibos trump you everytime- even if they dont like poor people, they at least set up all kinds of charities which cater to them.

Poor people having children they can't cater for is one of the biggest problems of the world

is that so.

Even if the government provides social welfare there is a maximum number that the government can afford to take care of

the govt's role is to provide jobs in addition to social welfare.

thorpido:
Unfortunately,these poor people can't change except through education.It takes 5minutes or even less to make a baby.Sex often is the consolation of the poor.It's the thing that gives them the only pleasure.

condom is only #50, that will safe us all from the eyesore we experience everywhere

^ buy condom and give them.

Rhukie:
condom is only #50, that will safe us all from the eyesore we experience everywhere

Many people don't like the use of condoms especially with their spouses.Poor people just need education.

thorpido:
Many people don't like the use of condoms especially with their spouses.Poor people just need education.

they don't need education, what they need is enlightenment because they are so many poor educated people that will still insist on no condom

tpiah2:
^ buy condom and give them.

you can make that your CSR for humanity

tpiah2:




ok, i sound mad but you're the one advocating jail time for having children.

so, in your opinion, you're sane?

as per your genitals, why would you hide yours while advocating castration for other people's own?

are you smoking substandard somethings?

What are you on about? You rant like a mad person.

I did not say anybody should be castrated. Maybe you can point to where you think I said it.

I did not say anybody should be jailed merely for having children. You may have noticed that the OP is about people who produce children they cannot forseeably take care of, forcing these children into unimaginable difficulty.

You don't have to reply at once. Wait for a lucid moment first.

Rhukie:
I can make that my CSR for humanity

Its a pity you say you are a woman.

undercat:


What are you on about? You rant like a mad person.

I did not say anybody should be castrated. Maybe you can point to where you think I said it.

I did not say anybody should be jailed merely for having children. You may have noticed that the OP is about people who produce children they cannot forseeably take care of, forcing these children into unimaginable difficulty.

You don't have to reply at once. Wait for a lucid moment first.

She's always ranting on nairaland like a mad woman. Most of us have concluded that she's insane so you'll notice most people don't bother to reply her.

You can't have a conversation with a mad woman

undercat:


What are you on about? You rant like a mad person.

I did not say anybody should be castrated. Maybe you can point to where you think I said it.

I did not say anybody should be jailed merely for having children. You may have noticed that the OP is about people who produce children they cannot forseeably take care of, forcing these children into unimaginable difficulty.




You don't have to reply at once. Wait for a lucid moment first.

Your own upbringing really doesnt speak well of your parents, if we are to go by the crap you type here.

And why all this mad mad ranting? Are you hoping to cover yourself? Your emphasis on mad shows its on your mind constantly, care to share?

Rhukie:
they don't need education, what they need is enlightenment because they are so many poor educated people that will still insist on no condom

Education doesn't necessarily mean they have to go to a school.It could be informal.They just need to understand the need to have a child they can take care of and the means of preventing pregnancy.

aderonila18:


She's always ranting on nairaland like a mad woman. Most of us have concluded that she's insane so you'll notice most people don't bother to reply her.

You can't have a conversation with a mad woman

I can see that now. Thanks for clearing that up.

kilokeys:


some cant cater for half a child..

so they shouldnt bother having kids then?

The world is overpopulated already. If you cannot cater for a child why have 1. It's usually carelessness or selfishness that causes people that are poor to have too many kids.

undercat:


I can see that now. Thanks for clearing that up.

Read my previous reply to you.

If you want to share why you're so frustrated, feel free to do so.

aderonila18:


My mama is always ranting like a mad woman. Most of us have concluded that she's insane so you'll notice most people don't bother to reply her.

You can't have a conversation with a mad woman

My dear, who are you?

Frustrated much?

tpiah2:



Your own upbringing really doesnt speak well of your parents, if we are to go by the crap you type here.

And why all this mad mad ranting? Are you hoping to cover yourself? Your emphasis on mad shows its on your mind constantly, care to share?

I'm sure a time will come when you'll make sense. Just be patient, and keep rambling till then.

thorpido:
Education doesn't necessarily mean they have to go to a school.It could be informal.They just need to understand the need to have a child they can take care of and the means of preventing pregnancy.

you are right

tpiah2:



Its a pity you say you are a woman.

I am too busy for your talks, abeg

Every child should be entitled to fee education. The rich exploit the poor and use them as cheap labour and now want to deprive them from having kids?

tpiah2:


the govt's role is to provide jobs in addition to social welfare.

Jobs and opportunities, yes! But the welfare system is, more or less, a complete and utter disaster. Little do you know how it cripples the 'poor'. I mean, do you know that there are generations and generations of 'poor' welfare recipients out there? How does being given regular incentive (for being 'poor') motivate? What kind of work ethic do their children learn?

The poor don't need government cash handouts, they need opportunities, jobs, training, and education. Welfare, more often than not, facilitates laziness and irresponsibility, and systematically breeds leeches. Charity > Welfare. Charity is the unexpected pick me up. The sigh of relief as you toil and strive for better. There are giving hands and grateful hearts, and more importantly - there's motivation, hard-work and hope!

The monstrous amounts of often-abused welfare tax dollars are better geared towards developing programs to get people out of poverty, instead of keeping them in a state of perpetual dependence.

The truth of the matter is no matter how you try to talk them into giving birth to fewer kids, they wont listen.
There is this Idoma woman i know that hawks around but have seven kids as at the last time i saw her. Every season you see her hawking a particular fruits, you see her with a new pregnancy.
As at when she had the 5th pregnancy, i tried talking to her on the use of family planning. And her complain was Aleku will catch her if she tries to do that. My response was Aleku will catch you for protecting yourself and giving you the chance to take good care of your kids, but Aleku wont tame your husband pe.nis.
Women always at the recieving end of culture.

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EnlightenedSoul:


Jobs and opportunities, yes! But the welfare system is, more or less, a complete and utter disaster. Little do you know how it cripples the 'poor'. I mean, do you know that there are generations and generations of 'poor' welfare recipients out there? How does being given regular incentive (for being 'poor') motivate? What kind of work ethic do their children learn?

The poor don't need government cash handouts, they need opportunities, jobs, training, and education. Welfare, more often than not, facilitates laziness and irresponsibility, and systematically breeds leeches. Charity > Welfare. Charity is the unexpected pick me up. The sigh of relief as you toil and strive for better. There are giving hands and grateful hearts, and more importantly - there's motivation, hard-work and hope!

The monstrous amounts of often-abused welfare tax dollars are better geared towards developing programs to get people out of poverty, instead of keeping them in a state of perpetual dependence.

cococandy:
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Thank you, dear

I might sound harsh to some but this is how i honestly feel. Free vasectomy procedures must be given to poor people. I have a uncle who dashed 2 of his children to my parents. Both girls are blockheads! One had to repeat IGSCE but she did not come out with anything sensible, she got pregnant and got married, that his how she got off my parent's back. A few years later he dashed his other daughter to my parents to take care of. This one is a serious case. She is too dull and at 11 she still bed wets.

This has put a serious restraint on my parents relationship, because they are no longer as lovey dovey as they were before this child came to our house. My father does not like her at all and my mother just keeps her because its her brother's daughter.

His younger son revealed that his father had plans of sending him too to our house so my parents will take him to school. If this ever happens im scared that my parent's relationship will even grow further apart, my father plans on retiring when he reaches 60 and he surely will not have 2 mysterious children keeping him from enjoying his old age.

These people break other people's homes so yes i believe, it is right to stop them from having children they cannot take care of. If you cannot keep them together or feed them, you cannot call them your family at all.

Unfortunately, they won't listen

no

In as far as poverty is not illegal nor immoral, we are expected to tolerate the consequences of poverty which includes poor people pulled into crimes, child beggars, miscreants etc.

Kay17:
In as far as poverty is not illegal nor immoral, we are expected to tolerate the consequences of poverty which includes poor people pulled into crimes, child beggars, miscreants etc.

u r a critical thinker.. i like u.
i wouldn't consider myself rich.. but i am above some crimes. so the govt, the pple could help alleviate abject poverty to put poor pple on a leveled pedestal where the sane, ambitious ones could help themselves.

Kay17:
In as far as poverty is not illegal nor immoral, we are expected to tolerate the consequences of poverty which includes poor people pulled into crimes, child beggars, miscreants etc.

Poverty itself is not immoral or illegal. I think however that producing children who any reasonable person can foresee being sustained only on the mercy of strangers is an immoral thing to do. A child should not be subjected to that, deliberately or negligently or however.