For this Melchizedek, king of salem, priest of the most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
2, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of salem, Meaning "king of peace,"
3, WITHOUT FATHER, WITHOUT MOTHER, WITHOUT GENEALOGY, HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS NOR END OF LIFE, BUT MADE LIKE THE SON OF GOD, REMAINS A PRIEST CONTINUALLY.

Some persons i discussed with said He is Jesus, but idontbilivit for the following:
1, without father; Jesus had a foster father.
2, without mother, I just cannot take away the position of mary.
3, without geneology; the geneology of Jesus Was recorded in the book of matthew chapter 1 vs 1-17.
4; having neither beginning of days nor end of life. ok, this may just be the reason why some say that this Melchizedek is Christ. for Christ had no beginning, neither will he have an end.
but made like the son of God, remains a priest continually. Jesus Is'nt LIKE, He is the son of God.
what if am wrong, and if the person as described is'nt Jesus, who is He?

Father Lanxlot,..
i want to ask you for advice; How do i get rid of toxic friends

lanxlot:
For this Melchizedek, king of salem, priest of the most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
2, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of salem, Meaning "king of peace,"
3, WITHOUT FATHER, WITHOUT MOTHER, WITHOUT GENEALOGY, HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS NOR END OF LIFE, BUT MADE LIKE THE SON OF GOD, REMAINS A PRIEST CONTINUALLY.

Some persons i discussed with said He is Jesus, but idontbilivit for the following:
1, without father; Jesus had a foster father.
2, without mother, I just cannot take away the position of mary.
3, without geneology; the geneology of Jesus Was recorded in the book of matthew chapter 1 vs 1-17.
4; having neither beginning of days nor end of life. ok, this may just be the reason why some say that this Melchizedek is Christ. for Christ had no beginning, neither will he have an end.
but made like the son of God, remains a priest continually. Jesus Is'nt LIKE, He is the son of God.
what if am wrong, and if the person as described is'nt Jesus, who is He?

Ethereal0110:
Father Lanxlot,..
i want to ask you for advice; How do i get rid of toxic friends

lol, sister ethereal0110, if ur toxic frnds r ladies, tel dem 2 msg me b4 gettin rid of dem. do d converse of what you did b4 u became frnds. abeg, contribute to d topic.

He was a spiritual being at that time. They usually come teach and inspire their devotees, raising their consciousness in the process. In the time of Christ there was Zadok. This ancient ones are the spiritual masters who teach these people about their mission on earth.

Melchizedek is not Christ. I guarantee you, the reason false teachers now twist scriptures to say he is Christ is because they still want to collect tithe using the example of Abraham AFTER THEIR LAW TITHE ARGUMENTS FAILED FLAT IN THE FACE OF SCRIPTURES.

That scripture in Hebrews is as clear as day light. Only dishonest folks will twist that scripture and dumb people will not ask questions. Thank God you can ask questions and the answers are obvious. Now, give me few minutes, I will explain the part that says, "having neither beginning of days nor end of life" to you, it's just one of the KJV English that confuse folks and many pastors know this, they use it to their own advantage or better still read many other translations. The rest, of #1-3, you got it RIGHT.

saintopus:
He was a spiritual being at that time. They usually come teach and inspire their devotees, raising their consciousness in the process. In the time of Christ there was Zadok. This ancient ones are the spiritual masters who teach these people about their mission on earth.

zadok in d tym of Christ? quotes pls.

NETCEO:
better ask google

lol.

lanxlot:
zadok in d tym of Christ? quotes pls.

He was in the time of King David and lived several hundreds of years upto the time of Christ. Am not a good bible student but somewhere in 1 Kings 1:39.
Jesus met him at the age of 16yrs and studied under him. NOTE: Nothing was written about Jesus from age 13yrs until at the age of 33yrs when his mission was given him."

Hebrews 7:3, Expanded Bible (EXB)
No one knows who Melchizedek’s father or mother was [ …without father, without mother], ·where he came from [L without genealogy], when he was born, or when he died [ having neither beginning of days, nor end of life;  something unstated was assumed not to exist]. Melchizedek is like the Son of God; he continues being a priest forever [ Melchizedek’s unmentioned genealogy in Genesis is, by analogy, like Jesus’ eternal Sonship and priesthood].

When KJV said, "neither having beginning of days nor end of life", its a phrase referring to "when he was born and when he died". The question I have asked people who teach Melchizedek is Christ is, if he was a man LIKE Christ, did he fall from heaven when scripture says, ONLY Adam was created BUT every OTHER MAN ON EARTH WAS BORN BY A WOMAN, EVEN CHRIST WAS BORN OF A WOMAN AS A MAN.

Another question we can ask the advocate of "Melchizedek is Christ" is, does it mean that Christ was here on earth before his virgin birth? Many things or object appeared as a foreshadow of Christ in the OT but those where not exact Christ. Think about this scripture,

Galatians 4:4, Amplified Bible (AMP)
But when the proper time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born subject to [the regulations of] the Law,

We can understand from this scripture that, there was a "proper time" Christ came. So, he could not have come "before" the proper time in person of Melchizedek until he was born of a woman BUT that Hebrew scriptures says, Melchizedek didn't have mother. Offcourse he had a mother, the name of his mother and father wasn't recorded nor exactly known and was missing in the genealogy so he (Melchi) can be preserved to fit the "description and comparison" of Christ when he said "MADE LIKE" the Son of God.

saintopus:

He was in the time of King David and lived several hundreds of years upto the time of Christ. Am not a good bible student but somewhere in 1 Kings 1:39.
Jesus met him at the age of 16yrs and studied under him. NOTE: Nothing was written about Jesus from age 13yrs until at the age of 33yrs when his mission was given him."

Bros, no use asking u bout ur denomination, av seen it already. but ur comment is frightening....sum1 lived frm d tym of david up to d tym of Christ.....Bros haba! type anoda tin na.

lanxlot:
Bros, no use asking u bout ur denomination, av seen it already. but ur comment is frightening....sum1 lived frm d tym of david up to d tym of Christ.....Bros haba! type anoda tin na.

. You get Holy Ghost sense no be small. You see me as I siddon dey look the guy

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I see you peeping o.....abeg no go copy one article to prove Melchi is Christ o...because of tithe.... . Because I go ask you one question wey you go pick race.....

lanxlot:
Bros, no use asking u bout ur denomination, av seen it already. but ur comment is frightening....sum1 lived frm d tym of david up to d tym of Christ.....Bros haba! type anoda tin na.

Fom the time of David to the time of Jesus how many years was that? People lived hundreds of years then. Some of these beings can immortalise their physical body.

Goshen360:
Hebrews 7:3, Expanded Bible (EXB)
No one knows who Melchizedek’s father or mother was [ …without father, without mother], ·where he came from [L without genealogy], when he was born, or when he died [ having neither beginning of days, nor end of life;  something unstated was assumed not to exist]. Melchizedek is like the Son of God; he continues being a priest forever [ Melchizedek’s unmentioned genealogy in Genesis is, by analogy, like Jesus’ eternal Sonship and priesthood].

When KJV said, "neither having beginning of days nor end of life", its a phrase referring to "when he was born and when he died". The question I have asked people who teach Melchizedek is Christ is, if he was a man LIKE Christ, did he fall from heaven when scripture says, ONLY Adam was created BUT every OTHER MAN ON EARTH WAS BORN BY A WOMAN, EVEN CHRIST WAS BORN OF A WOMAN AS A MAN.

Another question we can ask the advocate of "Melchizedek is Christ" is, does it mean that Christ was here on earth before his virgin birth? Many things or object appeared as a foreshadow of Christ in the OT but those where not exact Christ. Think about this scripture,

Galatians 4:4, Amplified Bible (AMP)
But when the proper time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born subject to [the regulations of] the Law We can understand from this scripture that, there was a "proper time" Christ came. So, he could not have come "before" the proper time in person of Melchizedek until he was born of a woman BUT that Hebrew scriptures says, Melchizedek didn't have mother. Offcourse he had a mother, the name of his mother and father wasn't recorded nor exactly known and was missing in the genealogy so he (Melchi) can be preserved to fit the "description and comparison" of Christ when he said "MADE LIKE" the Son of God.

thats 1 p I av bout varied interpretations, but most versions av read have similarities with what I wrote up there. also, u said sumtin bout kjv's "neither having beginning of days nor end of life", u said it made referenx 2 wen melchizedek Was born and wen he died. I take xception to ur assertion, cux Its distinct. neither avin beginning nor end isn't Same as being born.

Goshen360:
. You get Holy Ghost sense no be small. You see me as I siddon dey look the guy

lmao.

saintopus:

Fom the time of David to the time of Jesus how many years was that? People lived hundreds of years then. Some of these beings can immortalise their physical body.

ok....tnks 4 contributing. I need befriend 1 of ur members. to learn more, n most importantly to see if I can immortalize My mortal body ryt here On earth.

lanxlot:
thats 1 p I av bout varied interpretations, but most versions av read have similarities with what I wrote up there. also, u said sumtin bout kjv's "neither having beginning of days nor end of life", u said it made referenx 2 wen melchizedek Was born and wen he died. I take xception to ur assertion, cux Its distinct. neither avin beginning nor end isn't Same as being born.

Having neither beginning OF DAYS = The day one is born
nor end of life = The day someone dies

So, put it together, the day he was born wasn't records in the genealogy\missing, so also the day he died. But we all know Christ had a day he was born and also the day he died. So, he is not Melchizedek.

Goshen360:
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I see you peeping o.....abeg no go copy one article to prove Melchi is Christ o...because of tithe.... . Because I go ask you one question wey you go pick race.....

The way you pick race when you claimed premarital sex is not immoral? May the Lord deliver us from these wolves in sheep's clothing pretending to be apostles of light.

1. Without father nor mother means we have no record of his family
2. Without genealogy means we have no record of his tribe
3. Having neither beginning of life nor end of life means we have no record of his birth or death

These three things can equally be said of MANY OT characters. Why the author of Hebrews dwells on the absence of records concerning Melchizedek is because he called a Priest and Psalms confirms that. When God gave the Levitical priesthood, those three records were of paramount importance lest a non-Levite undertakes priestly work. Recall service began at a specific age so DoB is concerned.

Hebrews is simply magnifying th fact that Melchizedek was the furthest from a Levite. In fact on this basis he concludes change of the Mosaic covenant whose hallmark was the Levitical Priesthood.

The absence of Melchizedek records don't make him supernatural any more than that of other characters without the same. This is a curiously beautiful argument from silence

lanxlot:
For this Melchizedek, king of salem, priest of the most High God, who met Abraham returning from the

slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
2, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated "king of righteousness," and then also king of salem, Meaning "king of peace,"
3, WITHOUT FATHER, WITHOUT MOTHER, WITHOUT GENEALOGY, HAVING NEITHER BEGINNING OF DAYS NOR END OF LIFE, BUT MADE LIKE THE SON OF GOD, REMAINS A PRIEST CONTINUALLY.

Some persons i discussed with said He is Jesus, but idontbilivit for the following:
1, without father; Jesus had a foster father.
2, without mother, I just cannot take away the position of mary.
3, without geneology; the geneology of Jesus Was recorded in the book of matthew chapter 1 vs 1-17.
4; having neither beginning of days nor end of life. ok, this may just be the reason why some say that this Melchizedek is Christ. for Christ had no beginning, neither will he have an end.
but made like the son of God, remains a priest continually. Jesus Is'nt LIKE, He is the son of God.
what if am wrong, and if the person as described is'nt Jesus, who is He?

Goshen360:


Having neither beginning OF DAYS = The day one is born
nor end of life = The day someone dies

So, put it together, the day he was born wasn't records in the genealogy\missing, so also the day he died. But we all know Christ had a day he was born and also the day he died. So, he is not Melchizedek.

Weak interpretation.

The focus is on the unending nature of his priesthood and not natural birth or death.

Goshen the false teacher.

OLAADEGBU:


The way you pick race when you claimed premarital sex is not immoral? May the Lord deliver us from these wolves in sheep's clothing pretending to be apostles of light.

I said it and will preach it anytime, anywhere - premarital sex wasn't mentioned as part of sin of fornication. I left your thread because you kept copying articles online and can't discuss scriptures by yourself, without backing it with truth of the word. We have been fed with lies and we're now standing to the truth of the word. Challenge me any day, anytime, I will teach it more and even clearer - you YOURSELF agree that pre-marital sex wasn't mentioned to mean fornication but you can't leave it at that, you're inferring your own meanings by human traditions. Folks like you makes the word of God of no effect, get it right.

MostHigh:


Weak interpretation.

The focus is on the unending nature of his priesthood and not natural birth or death.

Goshen the false teacher.

Get thee behind me..... . Our focus is, is Jesus Melchizedek? Answer in plain and simple English, Yes or No?

Goshen360:


Get thee behind me..... . Our focus is, is Jesus Melchizedek? Answer in plain and simple English, Yes or No?

Even a child on milk knows that they are one and the same person.

High priest of the most high God.

OLAADEGBU:


The way you pick race when you claimed premarital sex is not immoral? May the Lord deliver us from these wolves in sheep's clothing pretending to be apostles of light.

And please, contribute to the topic without referring us to one article or another. Is Jesus Melchizedek or not?

They are not. What are you smoking?

MostHigh:


Even a child on milk knows that they are one and the same person.

High priest of the most high God.

vooks:

They are not. What are you smoking?

Thats your opinion.

MostHigh:


Even a child on milk knows that they are one and the same person.

High priest of the most high God.

Just like an elementary school kid understand you have to compare two entities together for you to make a comparison:

...but made like unto the Son of God...

If they are one and same person, it will be:

...Like the Son of God, Melchizedek Son of God continues to be a priest forever.

The world is laughing at your foolishness and education\comprehension in 3D mood....

MostHigh:


Thats your opinion.

And your opinon is scripture based.....

And yours is not an opinion but statement of fact. Prove it genius

MostHigh:


Thats your opinion.

Goshen360:


Just like an elementary school kid understand you have to compare two entities together for you to make a comparison:

...but made like unto the Son of God...

If they are one and same person, it will be:

...Like the Son of God, Melchizedek Son of God continues to be a priest forever.

The world is laughing at your foolishness in 3D mood....

Your catching at straws here


Can 2 distinct people occupy the same eternal office?

remember both are designated high prist of the most high God.

Lawless son of the lawless man.

vooks:
And yours is not an opinion but statement of fact. Prove it genius

Ignorance is no excuse.