Henry120:


You know that is not true. They are in storage. This talk about rotation is just to save face.

Nothing is been rotated.

Gripen C/D isn't better than the JF-17. Fact.

Henry, can you prove anything you say?

Dude, seriously, what is wrong with you?

Do you think you are convincing anybody? Do you know something no one else does?

Or is the fact that at anytime SAAF has 14 Gripen and 25 Hawk LIFT in the air and ready to deploy the most advanced ordinance in Africa really make you so utterly emotional that your only recourse is to parrot out the same baseless nonsense over and over?

SAAF only have 8 Gripen pilots? Fine

Nigeria only has 3 jet qualified pilots

Henry120:


I know you only got 8. The onus is on you to prove you have more than 8 pilots for 26 jets.

Thats not how it works

"the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges."[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof

Henry120:
JF-17 block 1 versus Gripen C/D

Block II which we are getting is way ahead of the Gripen.

I dont see anything that makes it better

Henry120:


It still doesn't change the fact you only got 8 pilots for 26 jets. You just can't prove you got more.

We dont have to.

14 Jets operational at any one time = 14 Pilots

Henry120:


As you can see, the toy is better than the Gripen.

Where?
How?
Why?

Draw some conclusions for us

Please

overhypedsteve:
see oga Agaugust i think we need to put this gun and uniform business to a decisive rest.

Even your fellow nigerians are chiding you into doing so!

Thiza:


SOUTH AFRICAN ELITE PILOTS.....

....OF FROZEN GRIPEN JETS

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sirjerry:
hehehe, patches in pain

NAF JF-17 Thunder strikes him, pain begins

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mzilakazi:


South Africa has never gone to Nigeria to beg for science teachers. No wonder our pupils at government schools perform so badly in Maths and Science
because they are being taught by just average teachers from Nigeria who were produced from the same rotten system that produced the likes of @agaugust.

South African confession of the week

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overhypedsteve:
Sometimes i just sit down and wonder what life in maiduguri would look like with so much security presence. I keep telling people that this boko haram insurgents are suicidal peeps and are only result oriented. They do not care how much of their lives it costs as long as the deed is done. Nigeria was really unfortunate to be the African country that was chosen to be infected with this " disease". But i know its all for the better, cus Nigeria have always been like a " push and start" vehicle we always need something to get us going. The boko haram insurgency brought a lot of administrative and infrastructural development to the various Nigerian security services. Nigeria was made strong by boko haram. The oil militants taught our boys to fight in creeks, rainforest, mangroove forest and swamps. While the boko haram insurgency introduced our boys into the world of asymmetric welfare and the worlds new conflict theatre: desert warfare. Most of the conflicts that have plagued the world in this modern times are being fought in the desert. From Mali,libya,somalia,syria, and Iraq. To me i think boko haram is preparing our boys for the bigger picture, something inevitable, something that must be fought under the harsh sun and on the sands.

Food for thought
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patches689:


Nope, its a laugh for South Africans.

Junk Fighter-17 is nothing impressive

Especially when it confirms you lied about Su30's

Same way you said I lied about JF-17 Thunder, now I am proved right by Janes Defence. Go kiss the sole of your muddy canvas shoes

Expect Nigerian T-84 OPLOT-M , T-72B, Su-30 Flanker, Super Tucano, BMP-2.....
.

patches689:


Junk fighter-17 impresses no one, not even the people of Pakistan

Pakistani JF-17 Thunder is built to challenge the mighty Su-30 MKI Flanker of India, avionics vs avionics.

Flanker will win by radar and super-maneuverability
.

patches689:


Junk fighter-17 impresses no one, not even the people of Pakistan

Pakistani JF-17 Thunder is built to challenge the mighty Su-30 MKI Flanker of India, avionics vs avionics.

Flanker will win by radar and super-maneuverability....assuming pilot skills are equal.
.

stillchris:


no it isn't

so south african is too poor to afford a grippen with full capabilities? is that it?

The poorest armed Gripen jets in this world are South African, each jet has 0.96 missiles each, that is LESS THAN ONE missile per jet.

Guinness Book of records
.

patches689:
Anyway, back to factual matters.

South Africa sells R23 Billion's worth of arms in just 3 months

The National Conventional Arms Control Committee (NCACC) approved arms exports worth R23 billion in the last three months, including armoured vehicles that were sent to Burkina Faso in the months before the October coup.

Among the sales:

- The SA Press Association reports an appendix to the NCACC report indicates the biggest single authorised export deal is for the supply of six large calibre artillery pieces, described as "gun/howitzer", to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), at a cost of R229.2 million.
- The second-largest is seven "turret, light combat", with the final export destination listed as Malaysia. The value is R2.6 million.
- The greatest quantity of authorised export armaments are bombs and rockets. A total of 16 762 high explosive, 2 376 illuminating and 9 504 smoke mortar bombs are marked down for the UAE.
-The Netherlands is listed to have received 26 000 mortar bombs.
-The UAE is also down for 10 lots of so-called imaging or counter-measure equipment, described as "system, airborne observation", valued at R90 million.
-A total of 50 armoured combat vehicles are authorised for export to various African countries, including Burkina Faso, Guinea, Niger and Senegal, as well as African Union operations in Somalia. The total value of these is about R124 million.

Yet SAAF cannot afford to buy SA made Mokopa missile, you sold your birth-right like Esau
.

MikeCZAR:
Did you know South African special forces faced Russian SF in Angola?

Propaganda.

SADF never fought USSR, or else NATO would have intervened
.

MikeCZAR:


"Quantity has a certain quality".

Thank you for that truth.

Nigerian army 150,000

South African army 50,000
.

patches689:


133 dead hostages during the Moscow Hostage Crisis
334 dead hostages during the Belsan School Hostage

Wow, so you know Super Powers nations too lose many lives on home soil to terrorists !

Nigerian military is as good as Russian military then
.

Henry120:


I want the one with Big boo.bs in-front.

Take am for free, no wahala

mzilakazi:


JF-17 is a toy and does not have a stamina.

JF-17 combat range is almost double that of Gripen

JF-17 carries about double the different weapons options of the Gripen.

JF-17 is a year 2012 aircraft built to launch cruise missiles and nuclear weapons, Gripen is an old 1998 Grandpa that CANNOT do all that !
.

overhypedsteve:
see oga Agaugust i think we need to put this gun and uniform business to a decisive rest.

If Nigerians want me to post it, I will....but I won't be ordered around by South Africans.

My Naija brothers can kick me around as much as they want, they own me ! LOL.
.

AugustineAgain:


Same way you said I lied about JF-17 Thunder, now I am proved right by Janes Defence. Go kiss the sole of your muddy canvas shoes

Expect Nigerian T-84 OPLOT-M , T-72B, Su-30 Flanker, Super Tucano, BMP-2.....
.

You didnt buy the Junk Fighter-17 yet

So yes, you saying you have them is a lie

AugustineAgain:


Pakistani JF-17 Thunder is built to challenge the mighty Su-30 MKI Flanker of India, avionics vs avionics.

Flanker will win by radar and super-maneuverability
.

No, the Junk Fighter was built because no one would sell to Pakistan

AugustineAgain:


The poorest armed Gripen jets in this world are South African, each jet has 0.96 missiles each, that is LESS THAN ONE missile per jet.

Guinness Book of records
.

Missiles were a short term solution until A-darter goes into production

As of next year the supply of missiles will be unlimited

South Africa is not Nigeria. We build our own weapons

AugustineAgain:


Yet SAAF cannot afford to buy SA made Mokopa missile, you sold your birth-right like Esau
.

We dont need the Makopa as of yet

Why buy what you dont need when you have the factory which builds them 20min from the airbase?

AugustineAgain:


Propaganda.

SADF never fought USSR, or else NATO would have intervened
.

No NATO would not intervene, just like NATO wont intervene now that Russians are fighting NATO ally Ukraine

And there are many recorded incidents

By the time 32 moved up to sweep the area, it was getting dark, and the 32 soldiers were somewhat surprised to find the bodies of people dressed in Russian uniforms in and amongst the carnage wrought by the air strike, continuing their sweep towards a kraal they were fired upon, immediately the fire was returned and the kraal over run. To their utter amazement they found several more dead Russians amongst them two women, to one side an unwounded Russian Warrant Officer
http://flecha.co.uk/32photo.html

AugustineAgain:


Thank you for that truth.

Nigerian army 150,000

South African army 50,000
.

Cuban and MPLA army = 150 000
SADF = 4000 (according to you)

How did that turn out?

AugustineAgain:


Wow, so you know Super Powers nations too lose many lives on home soil to terrorists !

Nigerian military is as good as Russian military then
.

Nigeria has lost over 4000 civilians

So no

And Russia is incompetant and their SF well below sub-par, with the exception of now non-existant Alfa and Vymple units

AugustineAgain:


JF-17 combat range is almost double that of Gripen

JF-17 carries about double the different weapons options of the Gripen.

JF-17 is a year 2012 aircraft built to launch cruise missiles and nuclear weapons, Gripen is an old 1998 Grandpa that CANNOT do all that !
.

Not even worth responding to this drivel

AugustineAgain:


If Nigerians want me to post it, I will....but I won't be ordered around by South Africans.

My Naija brothers can kick me around as much as they want, they own me ! LOL.
.

No one is ordering you.

I asked and you agreed

So why wont you hold up your end of the deal?

EVarn:
*scoffs*,and i've got a brazilian rainforest stuck between my two front teeth.isnt there a difference between being "well trained" and being "more equipped"?.everyone knows that the RN has fallen into disrepair in terms of military equipments,i was talking in terms of training,the RN takes the cream cake in that aspect.mike "ebola" czar,dont they teach you how to read in seminary school?

The Argentines stood their ground and fought them, even at the face of nuclear submarines. Though they weren't that highly trained, the story of their T209 is today legendary stuff.

Many navies around the world can defeat the RN in limit warfare. Like the falklands war.

AugustineAgain:


JF-17 combat range is almost double that of Gripen

JF-17 carries about double the different weapons options of the Gripen.

JF-17 is a year 2012 aircraft built to launch cruise missiles and nuclear weapons, Gripen is an old 1998 Grandpa that CANNOT do all that !
.

Do you even know what a combat range is? The smaller the combat radius the better the ordnance of the fighter. Meaning the JF-17 is half as armed as the mighty SAAB™ Gripen JAS-39. This stupidd who always beat up his chest about his aptitude in Science, always seems to be the one who is in the dark. You are unbelievable, I thought you were more wiser. Bwahahahahaha......


A man who cannot be defeated by just half baked Nigerian educated brains is ME.