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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:08am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:That information is from 2010 when not all Gripen were delivered. The JF-17 is inferior to the SAAF Gripens from EW, Swedish data links, pay load to speed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:11am On Dec 04, 2014 |
patches689:Within 2 days all 26 can be operational after checks. How many pilots and jets does Nigeria have? Is the question he should answer. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:13am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:14am On Dec 04, 2014 |
AugustineAgain:Suicide to challenge the SU-30 MKI with an JF-17. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:18am On Dec 04, 2014 |
AugustineAgain:USSR soldiers died in Angola, including their special forces. You wonder why SA SF are said to be good, than really thought and written. Didn't thee USA sell Stinger missiles to UNITA. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:22am On Dec 04, 2014 |
AugustineAgain:Yup, but in terms of training and equipment. The Nigerian army at the first contact would be badly hurt, forced to fall back to lick wounds that will never heal. And turn out deadly. Quantity is good if have constant supply of both man and material. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:22am On Dec 04, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Nigerian army = ~90 000 and the total NAF= ~120 000 SA Army = ~60 000 and the total SANDF = ~89 000 Those are the facts not the other way around. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:27am On Dec 04, 2014 |
mzilakazi: The Facts are, you only have 8 Gripen pilots for 26 planes. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:32am On Dec 04, 2014 |
MikeCZAR: The information we know is you only have 8 Gripen pilots. The Specs of the JF-17 block 1 show that it is a better fighter than the Gripen. The Block II is a much more better aircraft than the C/D model. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:36am On Dec 04, 2014 |
patches689: Nope, 12 Jets, 8 pilots. The remainder are in the freezer. Those comments made by your fat minister about them been rotated are pure and utter hogwash. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:38am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:Information from 2010 disclosed by former defence minister Sisulu. Tell us better in terms of what? South African Gripens are different from other C/D models. Did you know: The Gripen from next year will carry the deadliest and most advanced missile in the world. The Meteor BVRAAM. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:41am On Dec 04, 2014 |
patches689: Of course you won't, everyone else with a functional brain sees the JF-17 block 1 is on par, while the Block II is significantly better. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:42am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120: Nigeria only has three fighter pilots. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:44am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:The Air force made information like this available for people like you, when testifying at the Seriti commission.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:44am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120: Bet with me, it is not. The JF-17 has larger combat radius meaning it has light ordnance, thus is less armed and almost half of the ordnance mass to that of gripen. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:45am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:Fact you have one pilot. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:46am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:On par at the speed of Mack 1? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:56am On Dec 04, 2014 |
EVarn:I heard you were looking for this: 1. Hawk with the Umbani glide bomb. 2. Gripen armed and firing the A-Darter SRAAM. 3. Retired Cheetah with R-Darter is a bonus.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:58am On Dec 04, 2014 |
MikeCZAR: Mach 1.9 actually. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:12am On Dec 04, 2014 |
@Henry- stealth fighters with heavy ordnance have less combat radius from F-35B, F-22, F-16, SU class and Gripens. They all have combat radius of between 800km-1000km. The lazy JF-17 has combat radius of almost 1800km meaning the fighter does not want to carry heavy ordnance. Yet, the stealth fighters have air-to-air refueling capability. The practical example would be that of a soldier carrying only a rifle and some few hand grenades while the other is carrying heavy machine gun, MGL and some few grenades. Tell me which of the two soldier will walk longer distance? Is it not the one carrying much lighter weigh. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:13am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120: The speed is not the matter, stealth matters. The new gripen has already been promoted to the sixth generation. http://wonderfulengineering.com/jas-39e-the-worlds-best-stealth-fighter-is-here-and-it-is-not-american/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:17am On Dec 04, 2014 |
patches689: We know you have only 8, you continue to claim you have more than 8. Prove you have more. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:20am On Dec 04, 2014 |
mzilakazi: Stealth is nothing. The Gripen C/D isn't stealthy either. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:24am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:That's its max speed Mach 1.8. In operations it will fly at lower speeds. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:25am On Dec 04, 2014 |
mzilakazi: The Block II carries more weapons load than the Gripen. The difference in Kilograms between the Gripen and the Block I is only 600kg. The Rafale has the longest range of any 4++ fighter and carries by far more load than many of it's contemporaries. The SU-class fighters a combat range that can compete with the Rafale. As usual your logic makes no sense in these practical terms. The Specs have shown that the JF-17 thunder is a better fighter than the Gripen, and a fantastic value for money. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:26am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Reutech has unveiled its new B-Cat unmanned ground vehicle, armed with a 12.7 mm machinegun, and Super Rogue 3 weapons turret, armed with a 20 mm cannon and four missiles. The 3x3 B-Cat vehicle can be remotely operated at distance of up to 5 km and is designed for things like perimeter control. It can be armed with a 12.7 mm Browning machinegun but the armed version is still being finalised. The vehicle was displayed at the Africa Aerospace and Defence (AAD) exhibition in September with a mast-mounted Reutech radar and day sights, but can be fitted with other sights. The civil version of the B-Cat has been around for some seven years and started out as an unmanned mining vehicle for exploring blasting areas. At the beginning of this year B-Cat partnered with Reutech to produce a military version, which will be available for a variety of missions such as anti-poaching, reconnaissance, perimeter surveillance, riot control etc. The B-Cat is one hundred per cent South African designed and built. Reutech said it is quite unique on the continent and had generated a lot of interest during AAD 2014. NAIRAS MUMU CONTINUE LAMENTING WHILE SOUTH AFRICA MOVES FORWARD WITH NEW INVENTION 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:27am On Dec 04, 2014 |
MikeCZAR: Jets do not normally fly at their top-speed, dummy. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:28am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Reutech Radar Systems yesterday launched a new book detailing the history of radar in South Africa and 25 years of Reutech Radar Systems. Radar is celebrating 75 years in South Africa, with the first system tested in Johannesburg on 16 December 1939. Reutech Radar Systems (RRS) said that the history of radar in the country is closely intertwined with RRS and this is detailed in the book entitled RRS: 25 Years of Innovation. Radar development in South Africa began when the British government decided in February 1939 to let members of the Commonwealth in on the emerging technology of radar so they could help with its development and deployment. A small team under Sir Basil Schonland, head of the Bernard Price Institute of Geophysical Research at the University of the Witwatersrand soon developed a system, which was tested in December 1939. By the mid-1970s South Africa had built up radar expertise, particularly at the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), the military and Armscor but there was little capacity to build its own radar systems. One of the few companies to locally develop and produce radars was Reutech Radar Systems, founded in 1987 as ESD-South and headed by Managing Director Boel Pretorius. With the help of Stellenbosch University Professor Pieter van der Walt and his students, and the support of the Defence Force and Armscor, RRS began developing radars for South Africa. The company’s first success was the Kameelperd truck mounted air defence radar which remains in service with the South African National Defence Force, in upgraded form. RRS in 1999 received a contract to provide radars for the South African Navy and later achieved a major success with the export of helicopter control radars for the Royal Norwegian Navy’s Fridtjof Nansen frigates.READ MORE Reutech radars have been sold to some 20 countries but the company offers other products such as mining radars, tracking systems for concentrated solar plants and shock protection systems. It has also provided components for the South African Large Telescope (SALT). Speaking at the book launch in Centurion yesterday, Armscor acting divisional head of radar and electronic warfare Molahlegi Molope said it was important to have 100% South African companies like RRS to maintain and develop skills and innovation. RRS: 25 Years of Innovation tells the story of RRS, its technologies and people from inception to today and how it diversified from military radar to commercial products and systems. Today around half of RRS revenue comes from civil and half from military business with a similar split regarding domestic and export revenue. CEO Carl Kies said that, “we have proven expertise among others in mechanical design, systems engineering, project management, radio frequency electronic design, signal processing, software design and development, antenna system design, digital electronic design, synthesizer design, power amplifier design and logistics. Add to this the skills we have assembled in terms of support systems.” 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:30am On Dec 04, 2014 |
MikeCZAR:and who won the island at the end of the day?,being resisted doesnt mean defeat.the RN trains its navy like mad 'cos britain depends on its coastal waters for most of its trade and overseas cargo transport,do you expect such a country to have a weakly trained navy? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:30am On Dec 04, 2014 |
MikeCZAR: Again, see the specs I posted. Nope, South Africa flies the C/D model, and the JF-17 thunder block II is way better than them. I don't speak in future tense, anyway, not your crappy over-priced Gripens. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:31am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:Now that I've taught you that you wanna come and act smart? Well with that said, what does this tell us about the operational speeds the JF-17 will be able to fly in? Sub-sonic? The Gripen max speed is Mach 2. That means it can fly comfortably at Mach 1, while that JF_17 max. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:32am On Dec 04, 2014 |
Henry120:Which are different from other C/D aircraft. Better in what field? |
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