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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 9:08am On Dec 06, 2014 |
TheTerrible:I can't make sense of anything you wrote here...But answer this: Between the bomb maker and activator,who is the real killer? 1 Like |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by honourhim: 9:08am On Dec 06, 2014 |
okeke00: No. Its not that he could not hear from God rather he does not want to hear from God. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by honourhim: 9:50am On Dec 06, 2014 |
olami100: I did not see where you addressed his questions. Why dont you just shut up as you advised us to do? Nonsense. If you call yourself a christian and you want to claim that those questions have no answers then i pity your christianity. There's nothing strange in his questions, nothing there that does not have answers. He addressed his letter to God and he should go through the process of getting answers from God. Some of you so called christians when you feel that the atheists have raised questions that are beyond you you begin to yap nonsense to win their likes. That you dont have answers to the questions doesnt mean others dont have. Let him meet God whom he asked. Period. Why is he afraid of communing with God |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 10:26am On Dec 06, 2014 |
philfearon: 1. Easy request. But you and I know that you will NEVER be satisfied with any of the answers I give. 2. And I have honestly lost interest in the back and forth banter and insults and ridicule you guys are so quick to dish out to the Christian faith because you know you can get away with it. I don't see anyone insulting Islam in their thread like they do on christian threads. 3. If you can promise to be civil I will answer the issue of Cain if you want. 4. I still say ALL the questions he asked have easy explanations. You just need to have a little knowledge to answer them that's all. 1 Like |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Hiswordxray(m): 10:42am On Dec 06, 2014 |
olami100:It is foolishness to try to help a dead man understand. It is foolishness to teach a dead man. It is foolishness to expect a dead man reason with you. 1Cor 2:14 "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Hiswordxray(m): 10:50am On Dec 06, 2014 |
honourhim:You said things about me that were not totally true and you know they were not the truth. You keep saying I have pride and you saw the way I humbled myself even to an atheist and I admit my mistakes. Can someone with pride do sure a thing? You know we are brothers and I love you. I want you to see through the glasses of truth. But if you want to slap me go ahead, I would only turn my chink for you to slap me even more. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 11:39am On Dec 06, 2014 |
5minsmadness:I am not a rude person...I am civil....Go on bro..Let's talk objectively... |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 12:58pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
philfearon: Its simple, really. You have to get rid of that 'kindergarten Christianity ' your CRS teacher taught you. Adam wasn't the first man that God created. Its right there in the bible but its amazing how many people miss it. God created man on the 6th day, man and woman he created him, men and women he created them. And he set them on the surface of the earth and gave them dominion and said to them "be fruitful and multlply..." You get it. On the 7th day God rested. Creation story over. Then wayyyy over in chapter 2 God creates a man(one, singluar special man) and places him in the garden of Eden. He eventually gives that man a woman(eve) and they have sons . Cain kills Abel over a small matter of acceptance and he is sent into exile by God. But Cain knows he is going to where other men are...unruly men that will kill him at the drop of a hat. So he begs God to have pity on him. God answers by marking Cain with a special mark so that any other man who sees Cain will not kill him. That is how Cain survived outside the borders of Eden. That is also where Cain gets his wife from. Compare genesis 1:27 with Genesis 2:7 Genesis 1:27New International Version (NIV) 27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them Genesis 2:7-9New International Version (NIV) 7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. 8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. C'est finis. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by olami100(m): 6:05pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
honourhim: it is you that is too daft to understand what I am trying to communicate and in what ways did i claim that those questions did not have an answer I am not supporting the op neither do I support some of you gullible christains who quickly oppose some atheist just because they are trying to make you reason.. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Nobody: 7:33pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Mr OP, it is written in the bible.. God said He would make the wise things of this world look stupid.. I guess dat is why there's something called "miracles". That explains why doctors diagnose a sickness even predict the outcome and something else, totally unexplainable happens. God created the Heavens and the earth. The moon, stars and the sun, the galaxies... so I think He has full right to decide if the sun goes down or not. The sun moves around the orbit yet it was delayed.. wat do u tink happened? Who do u tink had control over it? Dear mr OP, God created me, he created you, he created everyone on planet earth.. so his waysss re not our ways. Even if he decides to answer you am not sure you would understand fully. If he began to answer your questions one by one and made everything in your life simply logical... am sure you wouldn't be able to handle it. Your beliefs are your beliefs.. you are entitled to them. But just habour your beliefs and go about your life gently.. dont challenge the Living God. The one who gives you breath and makes you wake up everyday.. He is a consuming fire.. you do not want His wrath to come down on you, trust me. Ve a fab day. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 7:53pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
5minsmadness:Lol....You really research a lot bro.. Prior before I left Christianity,someone once told me that between Gen1 vs 1 and Gen1vs2 ,something really happened ..There was a loophole...initially,I doubted it,but it later became clear the dude was right... The writers of Genesis were really smart shaa,but that loophole was the beginning of the discordance in the book!! |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 8:39pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
philfearon:The occurrences that took place between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 are no concern to man, so it was not mentioned in the bible. What people need to understand is that the bible isn't God's diary...its mankind's manual. The bible doesn't capture the full essence or power or ability or mind of God. The bible is a guidebook to give you an idea of who God is and how you as a member of the human race can attain eternal life. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 9:05am On Dec 07, 2014 |
5minsmadness:Since the bible tells us who God is,why do you guys take offence when we refer to his trail of murders,massacres, genocide,immorality,etc? He is usually called unchangeable remember? That means that's who He is..Am I wrong? |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 12:53pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
philfearon:Lol. You would be referring to new age christians there. It is not for nothing the bible says 'The Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom'. Having said that, let's clarify a few things. God cannot murder. Murder is a sin because you take the life of somebody else. You are essential stealing that person's life and future by cutting it short. You cannot steal what is originally yours. God is the origin of all life. All life belongs to him. He can take it whenever and whichever way he chooses. This might be hard for some to digest but there it is. So if he chooses to take a life right now all you can say is 'The lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.' That is why he is The Lord Great and Terrible. And yes He is the same God today which is why demons tremble at his feet. Modernism tries to paint God as a kind meek and gentle old man who wouldn't hurt a fly. Wrong picture. Very wrong. However God is also Just and Kind, Dedicated and Faithful. If he makes you a promise he will do all in His power to keep it, like I said in another thread, His word is law. When he promised the children of Israel that he would lead them to the promised land, his word became law. There was no wy the children of Israel wouldn't get there. In the process, God was going to mete out justice on the inhabitants of that land. We don't know what they did but it was enough for God to wipe them off the face of the Earth. Rumours had it that these civilizations engaged in idolatory, child sacrifices, horrifying sexuaI orgies , witchcraft etc etc. And the Earth would cry out to God and God would find a way to cleanse the place. That was the way of the world then. Even when the Israelites strayed away and commited same atrocities, because God is Just, he dealt the same way with them. We may find it horrifying but that was the way of the world then. In the new testament in which we are in, Jesus stays God's hand. This is an age of 'permittance' in that God allows us do whatever we like however we like, all on borrowed time. Jesus has shed his blood for mankind and it is this sacrifice that stay's God's hand. Jesus comes with a different approach...God's compassion and love without the fire and brimstone...all with the hope that man will listen this one last time before the end of this world. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 2:30pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
5minsmadness:All you said would have been true...But History has proven that the Israelites were never held in slavery in Egypt.....In other words, Genesis-Deuteronomy were concocted to create a false history!! |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 2:56pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
philfearon:You are jumping from one point to the other now. But what makes you think the history you read isn't the concocted one? 1 Like |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 3:05pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
5minsmadness:It is not....It is coming from the Israelites themselves..... Remember,Einstein is an Israelite,and he didn't believe in their almighty God..Not that it matters, but seeing reason is an individual choice... 2ndly,How am I jumping from one point to another? |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 3:24pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
5minsmadness:http://www.religiouscriticism.com/bible/the-jews-were-never-slaves-in-egypt/ .. http://www.jewishideasdaily.com/1106/features/were-the-israelites-enslaved-in-egypt/ .. http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844 ... http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Were-the-Israelites-enslaved-in-Egypt ..... I could go on and on and on with providing you links,but once your mind is locked up to the truth and being really open minded,I am utterly wasting my time.... They know they were not enslaved,and its a fact....This automatically renders the Bible False, and just a tool to enslave the Masses.... |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 4:01pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
philfearon:You are right. It doesn't matter. 2ndly, our initial discourse was for me to answer one of the op's questions which I did. Then you moved to another topic. Then another. You will continue like this till you come to an argument I can't "answer" (in quote) before you are satisfied. Please note I am not here to convince you about Christianity. I'm not a 'pentecostal'. I simply saw the falsity of the op's letter and decided to address it. 1 Like |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 4:18pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
5minsmadness:I have searched to see where you answered one of the OP's question,but I didn't see it.... Mind showing me? |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 4:22pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
philfearon:Seriously? How did our discourse begin? Na wa for you o. 1 Like |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 5:58pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
5minsmadness:Well,I remember telling you that that verse is the beginning of discordance in the bible which you didn't refute,but called "irrelevant"...... You didn't answer any of the OP's question bro....If am wrong,correct me!! |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Nobody: 6:57pm On Dec 07, 2014 |
@Server if atheists dont believe in the existence of God that doesnt mean they dont believe that there are God's believer. So, since there are christains around atheists then atheists have to learn to belive there are belivers in GOD & therefore comminicate in a way closed to their belief. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 7:00pm On Dec 08, 2014 |
5minsmadness:I am waiting for you bro... Or your answers and excuses have dried up? |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 7:05am On Dec 09, 2014 |
philfearon:That would console you wouldn't it? The feeling that no one has answers to your questions increases your faith that your belief in nothing is right? Lol. I told you earlier bro. I am not one of those christians crying on my knees for your repentance or whatever. If after all this posts you cannot find the question I answered where you yourself said i research a lot, then it shows you have selectively chosen to be blinded to truth. And the only thing that can help you in such a situation is a supernatural experience. And that isn't my department anymore. Adios amigo. 1 Like |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by honourhim: 7:23am On Dec 09, 2014 |
5minsmadness: God bless you bro. Sometimes why its good to answer these atheists is for the sake of the innocent souls out there reading their posts. When you don't counter them such souls might be deceived. Personally I don't argue with them so as to convince them because all the atheists that I know that repented and came back to Jesus were through divine intervention. None repented by argument with christians. Its purely the work of the Holy spirit. Pls be praying for them. Thanks dear. 1 Like |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 7:37am On Dec 09, 2014 |
I see you frank317. Good morning sir. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 10:20am On Dec 09, 2014 |
5minsmadness:Lol... Oh no bro,am not looking for any victory in this,I just want you to see reason with me just as you want me to see your point... .... Secondly,my implying that you research a lot does not mean you answered the question..It only shows you have an idea about The Gen1vs1 and Gen1vs2,not that you understood it properly though.. Genesis has two Creations Account..In each of the Creations Account,The World was described as being Void before Yahweh created His two Favorite Beings(Adam and Eve)... Mind You,in one of the two creations story Man and woman was created first before any other thing in a single day. ....while man was created last in the other story!! You have to ask yourself: 1)Why was there two contradictory creation story? 2)Where did the other inhabitants come from? It all leads back to the flaw in Gen1v1 and Gen1v2 ....Let me stop here! So how did you answer the OP's question which I did not see in my being blinded to the truth? Like I stated earlier,This is the point where you run away,bring up self-pitied excuses or ignore the thread entirely... I didn't want to go into this cuz I know you can't answer it,And am right!! |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 10:22am On Dec 09, 2014 |
honourhim:I have to laugh at this a zillion times....Probably the joke of the Year!! |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 10:50am On Dec 09, 2014 |
philfearon: Once again, you have chosen to not see what I wrote. I never spoke on Gen 1:1 and 1:2. I spoke on Gen 1:27 and Gen 2:8. You are the one that brought up Gen1:1 and 1:2 of which I said it doesn't concern man. You see if you continue with the mindset that you know it all you wont be able to learn anything new. Read my Cain answer again. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 11:13am On Dec 09, 2014 |
philfearon: Oh and by the way, the reason you think there is a discrepancy is because you and a host of other folk interpreted it wrongly. It's a straightforward story which I will try and explain again in a nutshell for correctness sake. The FIRST Creation account is the creation of the world. The so called SECOND creation account is the creation of Eden. Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 do not come into play here at all. That issue does not concern you as a human being neither does it concern your salvation if you want it. Just take time out and Read from Gen 1:27, down to Gen 2. Realise that God had finished creating the world and all that was in it before he paid special attention to placing a man in the garden of Eden and animals for him to name and dominate. Adam wasn't the first man, but Adam represented mankind in that he was specially made and cared for by God. I don't think I can explain it more than this. |
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by zyzxx(m): 11:13am On Dec 09, 2014 |
obiZEAL:you don't av d mind of ur own, infact u are confused. how will u write a letter to God u don't believe he exist ? U better accept d fact that God exist. |
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