Choose you this day whom ye shall serve
“Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to bethe propitiation for our sins.”1 John 4:10
An 11-year old Arab Christian girl was listening to an Islamic scholar preach about Allah.When he was done, the little girl approached him and said this – “show me where in the Koran that Allah loves me as the sinner that I am, and I will become a Muslim.” The dumbstruck man was silent for a long time, and then walked away. He had no answer to give her. Why?

God will save anyone who calls on Him whether they be Muslim, the Arab Catholic girl in this photo, a Buddhist, Hindu, or even an Atheist. He will even save you.
Because the Allah of the Koran does not love the sinner, or the unrighteous, or the lost, or the struggling, or the backslider. Allah of the Koran displays only a highly-qualified, conditional type of “love”, and it is for Muslims only. The Koran clearly teaches that Allah hates non-Muslims:
Qur’an 3:31-32—Say [O Muhammad]: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers.
Qur’an 30:43-45—Then turn thy face straight to the right religion before there come from Allah the day which cannot be averted; on that day they shall become separated. Whoever disbelieves, he shall be responsible for his disbelief, and whoever does good, they prepare (good) for their own souls, that He may reward those who believe and do good out of His grace; surely He does not love the unbelievers.
This is a startling contrast to the words of Scripturethat shows that God offers His love to any and all who will receive it, as a free gift paid in full with no strings attached:
“The LORD thy God in the midst of thee ismighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.” Zephaniah 3:17
“But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”Romans 5:8
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”John 3:16
The bible teaches that God is not interested in “making you a Christian”, He desires to save you from the penalty of your sins which is an eternity in Hell. God’s salvation is a free giftthat only needs to be received to become active. It is the Great Transaction – your sins in exchange for His righteousness and a full and free eternal pardon.
The Allah of the Koran is not the same as the God of the Bible. Allah wants to make you a Muslim, God wants to set you free.
“If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”John 8:36

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She is matured in Christ

Oga, your God does not love the sinners he sends to hell. The opportunity to repent is afforded both in Islam and in Christianity. A person who dies in a sinful state is punished in both religions. Stop lying for your God.

Love is the message..

finofaya:
Oga, your God does not love the sinners he sends to hell. The opportunity to repent is afforded both in Islam and in Christianity. A person who dies in a sinful state is punished in both religions. Stop lying for your God.

Ogga if u av to tink twice b4 u tlk... u wuld b d smartest prssn in ur house.

finofaya:
Oga, your God does not love the sinners he sends to hell. The opportunity to repent is afforded both in Islam and in Christianity. A person who dies in a sinful state is punished in both religions. Stop lying for your God.

Brother on the thinking thing if you thought it out you would know that while on earth allah approves the killing of none muslim people and enforces treating them like as outcasts. But Jesus on the other hand treats both non christians and christians as one while on earth but on getting to heaven 'burn it up' is the song that's played for them.

tonybosses:


Ogga if u av to tink twice b4 u tlk... u wuld b d smartest prssn in ur house.

Lol. Thanks for the tip. Now let me go and own that sibling rivalry.

Esdb:

Brother on the thinking thing if you thought it out you would know that while on earth allah approves the killing of none muslim people and enforces treating them like as outcasts. But Jesus on the other hand treats both non christians and christians as one while on earth but on getting to heaven 'burn it up' is the song that's played for them.

The issue is whether God loves the people he commits to hell. I say he does not, not in the slightest even.

finofaya:
Oga, your God does not love the sinners he sends to hell. The opportunity to repent is afforded both in Islam and in Christianity. A person who dies in a sinful state is punished in both religions. Stop lying for your God.

yeah he does. He loves the sinners he sends to hell. The reason they are eventually sent to hell is because they reject his love and mercy and therefore receive his judgement.

The Christian message is not a religious one. It says that once we accept Gods love and mercy, we're saved. Irrespective of our actions, we're declared righteous. The other messages preach do good, get good, do bad, get bad. But the fact is that no man is good. But through Jesus, we are counted as good and righteous, as our imperfections are washed away by his blood.

Get it?

Love and mercy is different. Allah does not love the sins but he is the most merciful seen from he is protecting all from all dangers accidents, earth quakes, diseases etc of his germs, his creations poisonous insects and provides food and sustenance even to his rejectors. but he is ''All just'' requires of him to punish wrong doers but he forgives those who repents and change themselves.

he is loving that's why he punishes them with problems to become better and transform into good people. like if a kid goes to drugs , will a loving Father be like a onlooker without admonishing , punishing the son for his welfare. if he does not punish means the father did not love the son. Or if the father punish a good son for the mistakes of his bad son he is unjust and not loving as well

Joshthefirst:
yeah he does. He loves the sinners he sends to hell. The reason they are eventually sent to hell is because they reject his love and mercy and therefore receive his judgement.

The Christian message is not a religious one. It says that once we accept Gods love and mercy, we're saved. Irrespective of our actions, we're declared righteous. The other messages preach do good, get good, do bad, get bad. But the fact is that no man is good. But through Jesus, we are counted as good and righteous, as our imperfections are washed away by his blood.

Get it?

Ur God loves the people he sends to burn in hell? Now I know the meaning of a perfect love.

Remind me to kill my stubborn son because he chooses not to heed to my words. Just understood the meaning of true love, thanks bro

talibilm:
Love and mercy is different. Allah does not love the sins but he is the most merciful seen from he is protecting all from all dangers accidents, earth quakes, diseases etc of his germs, his creations poisonous insects and provides food and sustenance even to his rejectors. but he is ''All just'' requires of him to punish wrong doers but he forgives those who repents and change themselves.

he is loving that's why he punishes them with problems to become better and transform into good people. like if a kid goes to drugs , will a loving be like onlooker without admonishing , punishing the son for his welfare. if he does not punish means the father did not love the son. Or if the father punish a good son for the mistakes of his bad son he is unjust and not loving as well

U are confused about ur religion aint u? Who does ur god protect from earthquake and germs? Are u living in Pluto?

Joshthefirst:
yeah he does. He loves the sinners he sends to hell. The reason they are eventually sent to hell is because they reject his love and mercy and therefore receive his judgement.

The Christian message is not a religious one. It says that once we accept Gods love and mercy, we're saved. Irrespective of our actions, we're declared righteous. The other messages preach do good, get good, do bad, get bad. But the fact is that no man is good. But through Jesus, we are counted as good and righteous, as our imperfections are washed away by his blood.

Get it?

I get it. GOD LOVES PEOPLE EVEN AS THEY BURN IN HELL. Maybe that's why he will eventually forgive them.

The Christian message is also good for good, bad for bad. If it were not every sinner would enter heaven. You only succeeded in defining "good" on man's part to mean "accepting the love and mercy of God".

finofaya:
Oga, your God does not love the sinners he sends to hell. The opportunity to repent is afforded both in Islam and in Christianity. A person who dies in a sinful state is punished in both religions. Stop lying for your God.

I understand what u mean,but think about it,what makes christian unique form other religious is the "LOVE" that God have for all....if HE didn't love us HE won't have bother to send His beloved son to the world.... Christ said "he didn't come for does who are saved already He come for the sinner"... The love is there for those who are ready to accept him. Those sinner that u taking about knows Him and yet they reject him... If God have to be wicked it would have been bad for us all... Is it not the same rain that fell on us or not the same sun that shin on us... Has a human being,is ur choice to accept him so far He loved everyone......................................................................................................remember if HE(GOD) didn't love us, Christ won't come to earth.

Joshthefirst:
yeah he does. He loves the sinners he sends to hell. The reason they are eventually sent to hell is because they reject his love and mercy and therefore receive his judgement.

The Christian message is not a religious one. It says that once we accept Gods love and mercy, we're saved. Irrespective of our actions, we're declared righteous. The other messages preach do good, get good, do bad, get bad. But the fact is that no man is good. But through Jesus, we are counted as good and righteous, as our imperfections are washed away by his blood.

Get it?

what about those who never heard about his love and mercy? Those who died in remote areas where the gospel never reached?

odun4love:


I understand what u mean,but think about it,what makes christian unique form other religious is the "LOVE" that God have for all....if HE didn't love us HE won't have bother to send His beloved son to the world.... Christ said "he didn't come for does who are saved already He come for the sinner"... The love is there for those who are ready to accept him. Those sinner that u taking about knows Him and yet they reject him... If God have to be wicked it would have been bad for us all... Is it not the same rain that fell on us or not the same sun that shin on us... Has a human being,is ur choice to accept him so far He loved everyone......................................................................................................remember if HE(GOD) didn't love us, Christ won't come to earth.

Okay. Good. What happens where someone tells you that Allah loves us and that is why he sent his messenger to reveal knowledge of him to us?

finofaya:


Lol. Thanks for the tip. Now let me go and own that sibling rivalry.



The issue is whether God loves the people he commits to hell. I say he does not, not in the slightest even.

tell me how you would feel if a child of yours does everything you warned him no to in all the week days and on saturday he comes to you for shoprite money.

frank317:


U are confused about ur religion aint u? Who does ur god protect from earthquake and germs? Are u living in Pluto?

You do not use your Brain, there are microbes every where even in your body, If Allah does not help you overcome them you are gone , into sickness and disease. Allah is providing even you who boast and Reject him.

Microbes living under the SEA Bed (7km below)convert poisonous Toxic gas cyainide into harmless or else YOU will die , amd me too. Do you know that, I saw it from discovery channel.

Once a beggar was given food by Prophet Abraham (pbuh) who refused to say bismillah so Prophet withdrew the food, and the angel appeared to him asking God has asked who are you to stop the food of my servant when i am feeding him even though I know he rejects me, so he rushed to find the beggar and ......

So wake from your deep sleep and recognize your creator, If not You will a learn a lesson like this atheist Doctor.inshallah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUYJwYwx-9g

frank317:


U are confused about ur religion aint u? Who does ur god protect from earthquake and germs? Are u living in Pluto?

You do not use your thinking , there are microbes every where even in your body, If Allah does not help you overcome them you are gone , into sickness and disease. Allah is providing even you who boast and Reject him.

Microbes living under the SEA Bed (7km below)convert poisonous Toxic gas cyainide into harmless or else YOU will die , amd me too. Do you know that, I saw it from discovery channel.

Once a beggar was given food by Prophet Abraham (pbuh) who refused to say bismillah so Prophet withdrew the food, and the angel appeared to him asking God has asked who are you to stop the food of my servant when i am feeding him through out his life even though I know he rejects me, so he rushed to find the beggar and ......

Noble Quran 67:30 ''Say: Have ye thought: If (all) your water were to disappear into the earth, who then could bring you gushing water? ''

So wake from your deep sleep and recognize your creator, If not You will a learn a lesson like this atheist Doctor.inshallah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUYJwYwx-9g

talibilm:


You do not use your thinking , there are microbes every where even in your body, If Allah does not help you overcome them you are gone , into sickness and disease. Allah is providing even you who boast and Reject him.

Microbes living under the SEA Bed (7km below)convert poisonous Toxic gas cyainide into harmless or else YOU will die , amd me too. Do you know that, I saw it from discovery channel.

Once a beggar was given food by Prophet Abraham (pbuh) who refused to say bismillah so Prophet withdrew the food, and the angel appeared to him asking God has asked who are you to stop the food of my servant when i am feeding him through out his life even though I know he rejects me, so he rushed to find the beggar and ......

Noble Quran 67:30 ''Say: Have ye thought: If (all) your water were to disappear into the earth, who then could bring you gushing water? ''

So wake from your deep sleep and recognize your creator, If not You will a learn a lesson like this atheist Doctor.inshallah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUYJwYwx-9g

I do use my thinking bro... So you are implying that millions who have died as a result of sickness caused by harmful viruses couldn't be protected by your God? Let me get this straight, was your God not strong enough to stop the viruses from killing his creations? Or did he decide to leave the virus to kill then? Don't you have a friend or neighbour or relation who has died of sickness before? When exactly does your God decide not to protect his creation from these viruses? He protects the begger too? Ya right the begger is grateful to him for his begging state. And what does he do about the thousand of beggers who die everyday. Protection indeed.

finofaya:


Okay. Good. What happens where someone tells you that Allah loves us and that is why he sent his messenger to reveal knowledge of him to us?

Well, I won't challenge that cause everyone's religious has his own point of view on this matter... I just know as a christian there is something linking us to God which is christ, and I don't think such is applicable to muslims.... And I think that's what the girl is referring to.

frank317:


I do use my thinking bro... So you are implying that millions who have died as a result of sickness caused by harmful viruses couldn't be protected by your God? Let me get this straight, was your God not strong enough to stop the viruses from killing his creations? Or did he decide to leave the virus to kill then? Don't you have a friend or neighbour or relation who has died of sickness before? When exactly does your God decide not to protect his creation from these viruses? He protects the begger too? Ya right the begger is grateful to him for his begging state. And what does he do about the thousand of beggers who die everyday. Protection indeed.

Sorry if I interrupt ur conversation with that guy...but I want you to understand something, this life we are is of two things "good and evil" we all know that, and there are lot of forces operating in this world... If truly you belong to God He will surly protect you, u talk about beggars, don't u know most of them are liars they deceive human just for them to eat... Has God has said He will never let us lack anything good.. He will surly provide.

We have all lost good one in life... Human are created to live and die...we'll surly die someday either by sickness or accident,we might even sleep and won't wake up anymore... Because I lost someone does that mean God is wicked.. Everybody has his or her own time to spend here in life that's phenomenon of life.

If truly u understand God, u will know how he operate,our God isn't bad...and most of u is hatred that draw u away from the trust... When I lost my dad then,I was angry and mad at God but later I came to understand there is reasons for everything, sometimes u have to leave God to the way HE his and was... Free ur mind He loves u, and remember there are other forces in this life...WE ARE NOT ALONE.

All of una just dey talk talk, RELIGION IS A TOOL DEVISED TO CIVILIZE HUMANS, only we Africans take it too far.. Why una no ask why the slave masters no teach una forefathers how to write the norms and practices of their spirituality of former times? AS A TRUE NIGERIAN/AFRICAN SON OF GOD I GIVE Y‘ALL A NEW COMMAND “ THOU SHALL NOT HATE“.

odun4love:


Well, I won't challenge that cause everyone's religious has his own point of view on this matter... I just know as a christian there is something linking us to God which is christ, and I don't think such is applicable to muslims.... And I think that's what the girl is referring to.

That's true.

Esdb:
tell me how you would feel if a child of yours does everything you warned him no to in all the week days and on saturday he comes to you for shoprite money.

I will feel disrespected.

Learn to seeeee

Joshthefirst:
yeah he does. He loves the sinners he sends to hell. The reason they are eventually sent to hell is because they reject his love and mercy and therefore receive his judgement.

The Christian message is not a religious one. It says that once we accept Gods love and mercy, we're saved. Irrespective of our actions, we're declared righteous. The other messages preach do good, get good, do bad, get bad. But the fact is that no man is good. But through Jesus, we are counted as good and righteous, as our imperfections are washed away by his blood.

Get it?

shut up!

Joshthefirst:
yeah he does. He loves the sinners he sends to hell. The reason they are eventually sent to hell is because they reject his love and mercy and therefore receive his judgement.

The Christian message is not a religious one. It says that once we accept Gods love and mercy, we're saved. Irrespective of our actions, we're declared righteous. The other messages preach do good, get good, do bad, get bad. But the fact is that no man is good. But through Jesus, we are counted as good and righteous, as our imperfections are washed away by his blood.

Get it?

keep deceiving yourself

finofaya:


I will feel disrespected.

and may I remind you that you sent your wife, his brothers to 'beg' him to stop cause you were away. My friend will you give him the money for shoprite?

Allah says about His love in the noble quran

Ch 85 V 14 - 15: "and He is the forgiving the loving. Lord of the throne of glory"

And concerning sins,

Cn 39 V 53: "Say: O my servants! who have acted extravagantly against their own souls, do not despair of the mercy of Allah; surely Allah forgives the faults altogether; surely He is the Forgiving the Merciful"

There are many more references on Allan's love and forgiveness

Esdb:
and may I remind you that you sent your wife, his brothers to 'beg' him to stop cause you were away. My friend will you give him the money for shoprite?

It depends on things like my mood at the time, how well he can explain his behaviour or otherwise how well he can grovel, whether somebody intercedes on his behalf, his antecedents, the necessity of what he intends to buy from shoprite, his order of birth etc etc.

Where are we going with this?

odun4love:


Sorry if I interrupt ur conversation with that guy...but I want you to understand something, this life we are is of two things "good and evil" we all know that, and there are lot of forces operating in this world... If truly you belong to God He will surly protect you, u talk about beggars, don't u know most of them are liars they deceive human just for them to eat... Has God has said He will never let us lack anything good.. He will surly provide.

We have all lost good one in life... Human are created to live and die...we'll surly die someday either by sickness or accident,we might even sleep and won't wake up anymore... Because I lost someone does that mean God is wicked.. Everybody has his or her own time to spend here in life that's phenomenon of life.

If truly u understand God, u will know how he operate,our God isn't bad...and most of u is hatred that draw u away from the trust... When I lost my dad then,I was angry and mad at God but later I came to understand there is reasons for everything, sometimes u have to leave God to the way HE his and was... Free ur mind He loves u, and remember there are other forces in this life...WE ARE NOT ALONE.

You can't make blatant confusing statement and expect me to just accept it. Do you think I have not thought about all you said before talking like this?

-You accept there is Good and evil
-Then you say God protects people who serve him
-Then you say the fact that we serve God does not mean we are free from sickness and death

I can't seem to know how to synchronize the three statements. What exactly is God protecting us from?

You know people who claim to worship God are not protected from anything... They go through good and bad ordeals just as people with different believes. God does not even protect people worshiping in the church from external attacks like bomb blast or book boys.

Since you now understand that there is reason for everything please explain to me the reason why your father died. Also care to tell me how God operates since you now understand him.

Are you kidding me? God said his people will never lack anything good? Pls look around you... Don't just quote what you think God said... Let's go practical.

Please respond to me point by point, don't leave out any question raised above because I picked them from your statement. If you leave any out I will be terribly disappointed that I even accepted to discuss with you