patches689:


What?

Nigeria has no operational missile armed vessels

Our "defunct" subs sunk an entire NATO task-force

NN is a joke, zero warfighting ability

Yes, the heroine class sub is one of the most advanced diesel electric subs in the world, it also boasts a ton of South African made electronics for e.g the periscopes which are build by Carl Zeiss (now Cassidian) Optronics South Africa.

patches689:


What?

Nigeria has no operational missile armed vessels

Our "defunct" subs sunk an entire NATO task-force

NN is a joke, zero warfighting ability

and you gonna fight a naval battle with most of your warships in repairs or grounded?,not forgetting that you now have only one functioning submarine with an half charged battery.

jln115:
Future SAN from 2017:
Surface combatants
4X Valour class frigate
4X (ex warrior class)OPVs
3X new OPVs/light Frigates/corvettes(from 2016-2018)
3X T-craft-class IPVs
6X new IPVs(from 2016-2018)

Patrol boats(Harbour)
30X Namacurra class
50X Riverine Patrol Boats(from 2016-2018)

Submarines
3X Heroine-class

Auxiliaries
1X AOR class(SAS Drakensberg)
1X Hecla class(SAS Protea)
1X New Hydrographic survey Ship(from 2015)

Have you seen Nigerian navy's 2008-2018 masterplan ? It beats that of South African navy blue black !
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patches689:


Yep

Getting the warrior class OPV/s online has freed up so much needed maintenance time for the Valour Class

Yes and using our OPVs for anti-Piracy is a lot more cost effective than using the frigates. Besides our OPVs might be replaced in the next 2 years thanks to project biro, SAN can just aswell get the most out of these OPVs before they receive the new ones.

agaugust:


Have you seen Nigerian navy's 2008-2018 masterplan ? It beats that of South African navy blue black !
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Nope i havent actually , why dont you post a source!

patches689:


Nope, SAAF has the Gripen which does what the scorpion does, so for us it would be sh@t

and what have we got?

More money than you

7 Frigates

Deal with it

May we also begin to claim all the new ships in Nigerian navy master plan?

Scorpion jet ISR endurance time airborne 300 minutes

Gripen jet Recce Only, enducance time airborne 45 minutes

Old fashioned Gripen of 1998
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jln115:
Hahahah NN officers cant even swim!!!!

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37270:nigerian-navy-introduces-compulsory-swimming-lessons-for-navy-officers&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106

South African navy chief of staff CANNOT navigate a boat on the river, he has NO shipping training or certificate

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EVarn:
and you gonna fight a naval battle with most of your warships in repairs or grounded?,not forgetting that you now have only one functioning submarine with an half charged battery.

We are at peace we wont be fighting a naval battle in the near future ,btw we always have 2 operational subs at any given time, SAS Manthatisi just finished her refit and SAS charlotte Maxeke will be next, and SAS Queen Modjadji is still operational. Although we only did have one sub operational in Aug but that has since changed.

agaugust:


South African navy chief of staff CANNOT navigate a boat on the river, he has NO shipping training or certificate

.

Citation needed....BTW JF-17 is a 3rd Gen Aircraft, proved by yourself!

agaugust:


May we also begin to claim all the new ships in Nigerian navy master plan?

Scorpion jet ISR endurance time airborne 300 minutes

Gripen jet Recce Only, enducance time airborne 45 minutes

Old fashioned Gripen of 1998
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Yes old fashioned 4.5th gen Aircraft, unlike the 3rd Gen JF-17 that you proved.

patches689:


NNS Aradu has been in "refit" since 2012

NNS Ambe is an LST not a supply ship

China is transferring no combat ships at all

JC-17 is still a pipe dream

The only thing the Nigerian navy is a threat to is its own vessels.

South African submarine was in refit for 7 years just change battery 2007 to 2014.

LST carries anything from heavy armoured vehicles, food, to fuel, it has cargo space for any cargo.

China is transferring one combat ship to Nigerian navy officially announced and posted here many times .

JF-17 Thunder is a done deal.

Nigerian navy is the biggest threat to South African navy in Sub Saharan Africa
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agaugust:


South African submarine was in refit for 7 years just change battery 2007 to 2014.

LST carries anything from heavy armoured vehicles, food, to fuel, it has cargo space for any cargo.

China is transferring one combat ship to Nigerian navy officially announced and posted here many times .

JF-17 Thunder is a done deal.

Nigerian navy is the biggest threat to South African navy in Sub Saharan Africa
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Our Subs are being fully upgraded/refitted!
And your DONE DEAL jf-17 are 3rd gen aircraft!

patches689:


What exactly are you even asking for here?

Are you embarrassed that after saying no one has bought the "over priced" Mbombe we were able to instantly prove you wrong?

Anyway, 50 sold so far
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34607:jordanian-armed-forces-buy-50-mbombe-armoured-vehicles&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

I said you have a potential buyer that has not paid you one dollar yet, and your source above confirms only paper work signed, not payment for the paltry insignificant 50 units of an over-priced Mbombe
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agaugust:


I said you have a potential buyer that has not paid you one dollar yet, and your source above confirms only paper work signed, not payment for the paltry insignificant 50 units of an over-priced Mbombe
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hahaha just be quiet mate!!you are embarrassing yourself!
You still havent given me an answer on can i join you brotherhood.

patches689:


We needed to replace the Mirage

Gripen is the obvious choice, and at the time the only choice considering the other two were the Mirage 2000 and the Rafael

The Hawks can drop PMG's

You need CAS, why not buy a CAS asset?

We need to replace the F-7 jet

Mi-35 Hind can drop PGMs

We are buyng JF-17, Su-30, and for COIN we might mix Tucano + Scorpion + FrogFoot

NAF will be 10 times better in aircraft mix and diversified capabilities than SAAF....your ranking is dropping below Uganda now!
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agaugust:


We need to replace the F-7 jet

Mi-35 Hind can drop PGMs

We are buyng JF-17, Su-30, and for COIN we might mix Tucano + Scorpion + FrogFoot

NAF will be 10 times better in aircraft mix and diversified capabilities than SAAF....your ranking is dropping below Uganda now!
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Dude do you even read your own post before actually posting it?

jln115:


Yes, the heroine class sub is one of the most advanced diesel electric subs in the world, it also boasts a ton of South African made electronics for e.g the periscopes which are build by Carl Zeiss (now Cassidian) Optronics South Africa.

Your submarines are obsolescent, new version is already out in the market, Egypt is likely buying that.

South Afrcan weapons are mostly dated 1990s technology and fast becoming obsolete by now 2014.

Nigeria and Algeria are buying the most modern weapons in Africa 2014-2015
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agaugust:


Your submarines are obsolescent, new version is already out in the market, Egypt is likely buying that.

South Afrcan weapons are mostly dated 1990s technology and fast becoming obsolete by now 2014.

Nigeria and Algeria are buying the most modern weapons in Africa 2014-2015
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Yes like the 3rd gen Jf-17!

jln115:

Maybe as a trainer? i mean the jf-17 is only a 3rd gen aircraft, proved by yourself.

LOL, Saudi Arabia is buying a 3rd generation aircraft after buying 4.5th generation Eurofighter Typhoon. LOL.

I like your comedy, execpt that it degrades your public image here. LOL. Keep it up

agaugust:


LOL, Saudi Arabia is buying a 3rd generation aircraft after buying 4.5th generation Eurofighter Typhoon. LOL.

I like your comedy, execpt that it degrades your public image here. LOL. Keep it up

I said as a trainer Aircraft you village idi0t!!! PLEASE LEARN TO READ

patches689:


What?

Nigeria has no operational missile armed vessels

Our "defunct" subs sunk an entire NATO task-force

NN is a joke, zero warfighting ability

NN, NAF, NA are all being rebuilt with billions of dollars, that is public information known world wide. Give them another 12 months and see wonder.

SAN submarine played war game with 1970-1980s NATO ships including oil tankers, only one ship was modern in the NATO fleet.

NATO also fooled South Africa by refusing to use any of their latest anti-submarine helicopters in that war game.

Next you didn't know that real modern NATO ships have anti-torpedo decoys and if you fire torpedoes at them they will counter it, waste your torpedoes, discover your submarine position and decend on you with anti-submarine helicopters to sink your submarine.

You think NATO is a fool? NATO is built to fight mighty Russia not South Africa....fool
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agaugust:


NN, NAF, NA are all being rebuilt with billions of dollars, that is public information known world wide. Give them another 12 months and see wonder.

SAN submarine played war game with 1970-1980s NATO ships including oil tankers, only one ship was modern in the NATO fleet.

NATO also fooled South Africa by refusing to use any of their latest anti-submarine helicopters in that war game.

Next you didn't know that real modern NATO ships have anti-torpedo decoys and if you fire torpedoes at them they will counter it, waste your torpedoes, discover your submarine position and decend on you with anti-submarine helicopters to sink your submarine.

You think NATO is a fool? NATO is built to fight mighty Russia not South Africa....fool
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"that is public information known world wide" yes the public in your head, as for the real world, please provide citation to prove your statement.

jln115:


Hahaha yes its cool but it looks so overdone hahaha just like their super super size hamburgers.

SHORAD, if my memory serves me well it was developed to protect the petangon.

jln115:

JF-17 is a 3rd Gen Aircraft, proved by yourself!

LOL...did I write up that website? LOL.

And the rest of the world the calls JF-17 aircraft 4th generation including the Europeans who are much more intelligent than you South Africans
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jln115:


jf-17 are 3rd gen aircraft!

You don't know this forum, you will write nonsense to a point that people will find it unattractive to reply your comments. I've been here for 2 years.

jln115:

"that is public information known world wide" yes the public in your head, as for the real world, please provide citation to prove your statement.

I have repeated full analysis of that NATO Vs SAN war game more than 5 times here on this forum I won't go back to search my 6,000 posts for every new South African that joins this forum, so you too spend your time to search the archives, google @agaugust NATO old ships vs South Africa nairaland, then sift through the search results spending your own time not mine
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agaugust:


LOL...did I write up that website? LOL.

And the rest of the world the calls JF-17 aircraft 4th generation including the Europeans who are much more intelligent than you South Africans
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But the people who built it say its a 3rd Gen ! and the source you posted was a wiki source which you edited.

jln115:

I said as a trainer Aircraft you village idi0t!!! PLEASE LEARN TO READ

JF-17 is not a trainer, so ....

jln115:

Nope i havent actually , why dont you post a source!

Defenceweb posted boldly it for people like you
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agaugust:


I have repeated full analysis of that NATO Vs SAN war game more than 5 times here on this forum I won't go back to search my 6,000 posts for every new South African that joins this forum, so you too spend your time to search the archives, google @agaugust NATO old ships vs South Africa nairaland, then sift through the search results spending your own time not mine
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Post sources and stop being so emotional.... is it that time of the month already?

agaugust:


Defenceweb posted boldly it for people like you
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Then post it!

agaugust:


JF-17 is not a trainer, so ....

What about the 2 seater isnt that a trainer ,you village idi0t?