ihedinobi2:

I am very curious why young women seem to think this. Do you really believe that you are a mental island totally unaffected by how other people think?

Perhaps I haven't o.

Eya. I hear that that's the life of adulthood.

Timbuktou:
What you consider unfair terms are actually fair. The measures could be a little extreme from time to time, but generally, the wife's place is beneath her man.

Kay17:


"Man is born free but found in chains everywhere"

I don't know of any woman who was born to for the purpose of being beneath a man.

Kay17:


"Man is born free but found in chains everywhere"

I don't know of any woman who was born to for the purpose of being beneath a man.

bukatyne:


Abi. O! She was on my train and a friend

I don't know about young women, I only know about myself. Besides why the reference to young women?

Mental Island, I don't think so. Affected by How people think: very negligible

ihedinobi2:

That was non-negotiable.

I know about young women. I keep hearing young women say that we don't all think alike/we don't need to all think alike, or that all the arguing is senseless because nobody's view changes and people can't affect how others think. All this in the face of the fact that these young women's views change from time to time as they interact with people. Each time I hear it I wonder if young women ever actually listen to themselves.

That's what I'm talking about. Why do you believe that? Are all of your current ideas the same ones you had last year?

FrancisTony:

You quoted bible and you don't believe in religion?

Confused much?

What's Religion? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
Christianity fits in 100% of this definition.

What's way of life?
-They can proove their deity.
-They don't believe in any doctrine.

Christianity doesn't fit here.

bukatyne:


I definitely learnt new things however my values are the same from when I was old enough to know what I want.

Sometimes I am seen as unyielding

Check out young boys too

ihedinobi2:

Did you conjure up these new things by yourself or other people were involved in your learning them?

Young men are typically unconfused about the fact that they need to learn. We typically hang out with each other to exchange notes and with older men to make new notes. Those young men who are confused about that are because of the softening of masculinity that results from feminist ideologies that some mothers raise their sons with these days.

bukatyne:


Young men are unconfused while young women are confused?

Goodnight

lezz:
I do not believe men are superior to women. That's too simplistic. Men are created in a position of responsibility and authority.

The mental, emotional and psychological makeup of men and women are basically different. And so is their physical composition. They are meant to function in different ways to have a balance and more structured home and society of order, accountability and hierarchy of responsiblity for purposeful and well functional society and family.
Feminism seeks to deny this basic truth.

Men are inventors, pioneers, fathers, seed-carriers, the source of all human life, founders and sustainers.

Men have invented all the civilizations, countries, villages, technologies and invention.
Even all the sports we play are invented by men.

Women give life to the seed a man plants in her..
Women help their men realise his true meaning and calling. His very essence. When a woman achieves this, she has found a very rear state of being called fulfillment which no education or feminist rantings or wealth can give her.

A males's position as the head and leader is not by cultural positioning or vote; it is by his very inherent disposition at creation. He is father as the source of life who gives a sense of identity and security to his children. Something no woman can truelly give.
As God is father to all things, so men are fathers to the human race.

Timbuktou:
What is so bad in women supprting men being their primary roles? What is the purpose of women going to work and earning money other than an ego trip? Consider the earnings/money as available and applicable to both sexes. Do you think they have the same general value and purpose?

coogar:


why do you have a womb & 2 brëasts then? what are the purposes of those body features??

Kay17:

Angela Merkel has a womb and 2 breasts, but she did not limit her life purpose and destiny to a womb and 2 breasts.

coogar:


if they are in the fewest minority, then it's an exception to the rule. men are still responsible for 99% of all human achievements in the last 30 years. so where exactly are women pulling the trees? who are the female equivalents of steve jobs, bill gates, seun osewa or they didn't have female classmates in school?



if there's a gender bias in the west, it's against the men. equal opportunities for both genders mean more boys willing to take their careers to the very top are being denied admission for the girls. the girls get admitted quite alright & sometimes graduate only to abandon their careers for other less-mentally tasking fields or become a full housewife.



i don't understand your question - rephrase it or choose other words to make it more intelligible. no one has overcome the curse in eden so i dunno what you talking about....

coogar:


that is not the point - why was she born with a womb & a pair of brêasts in the first place?

Kay17:

What does the fewest minority even mean?! Isn't it between two sexes, so where does the fewest minority come from?! It is either a woman is capable or not. If Angela Merkel can successfully govern a powerful state, then there can be more women who can do the same. Genius is not the preserve of males.

The truth is, you search endless for an excuse to make out a successful woman. There ought to be many more progressive women, but they unfortunately believe the woman is incapable of remarkable achievements.

Culture uses religions, anecdotes to explain why women cannot grow. They explain how a snake and a tortoise made women vulnerable and helpless. They teach humility and erect duty on conceit.

My question was very clear: wouldn't it be courageous and worthy to overcome a divine curse?

Kay17:


She has a reproductive capability, is that what you mean?

coogar:


it is!
99% of all human achievements are by men. where are the women? few minorities mean when you look at any group of intellectuals from science to inventions to finance to politics, men always always outnumber the women & i don't think there's any law restricting women to become what they wanna become.

why this belief when women have had equal opportunities as the men for at least the last 100 years? were there no women in bill gates' class? steve jobs? where are they today? what have they invented?

you are pulling this out of the stratosphere - there's no excuse for any woman not to be what she wishes. the truth is - a woman's mental capacity in general terms cannot cope when the demand is extremely tasking. men are more suited to such roles.

if it's really a divine curse - there's no escaping it. humans cannot & can never overcome the curse God placed on them in eden.

coogar:


what i mean is - she was specially created to carry a man's baby. that's the primary purpose of women. a man puts his seeds in her & she must carry the baby to term with the body features she was blessed with -

propping her to do other things is just trying to be politically correct. generally, women are not cut for such roles.

•FTSE 100 - only 5 female CEOs
•british engineers - only 9% are females
•american engineers - only 18% are females
•world leaders - only 20 are females in 280 countries.

why these disproportionate figures? do women not go to school?

Kay17:

But these stats are not constant, right?

Kay17:

You are a sad case of ignorance.

1. You rely on fallacies such as the most fictitious quantification of human achievement. How were you able to calculate human achievement across centuries and compute 99 percent contribution from men. That is absolutely ridiculous.

2. The Achilles Heel of your generalization that genius resides solely in males, is for me to prove that at least one single female is capable of genius. Just one example destroys your argument.

3. Women form a minority in such a pyramid social structure in our society and in the West. People have the mythical belief that women are inferior humans. It is a strange belief but people do. Hence the scarcity of women at the top. The men at the top are not always the brightest. In aristocratic societies, it was believed the cream was at the top, but that was proven to be false. Same here. There is no such thing as an equal opportunity. We don't live in a total egalitarian society.

4. Since you have refused to answer my question, I'd give you mine: Yes.

coogar:

very constant!
they are hoping to get 25 female CEOs in FTSE by 2025. that's about 10 years from now. just 25%.

there's always an exception to the general rule - stop arguing against logic. if the ratio of all geniuses are 100 to 1 in favour of men then you can generally conclude that men are better at some roles than women. it's nothing to be ashamed about.

Kay17:

Coogar, that is obviously a lie, the figures and rates can not be the same numbers decade by decade. There was actually an increase from the previous decade.

coogar:


increase or decrease?

http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20121028/BUSINESS/310269984

Maj Mirmirani, dean of the engineering program at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, said the lack of females in the workforce is problematic because women have inherent abilities they can offer in the field, which translate to more innovation, greater business opportunities and a more competitive economic environment.

Carol Eaton, president of Daytona State College, said while the situation is disheartening, an observation of the medical field's transition from being male-dominated to one of equal representation — and applying those principles to the problem of the lack of female engineers — may provide a solution.

coogar:
^^^

that's just theoretical - fact remains women are leaving the field in droves these days, they are simply not interested in it cos they cannot cope mentally.

seunoni34:
Feminists - Group of frustrated bitter hearted women who wish they were men

Kay17:


But they do have a source of grievance. Marriage as an institution imposes unfair terms on women. Nobody wants to be enslaved or be inferior to other humans. Our sense of justice rejects arguments that a man is more worthy of an individual than a woman.

Callfubu:
if it were Nigerian or African women that were at the pole front of the whole feminism thing, it would be "somewhat" justified because asides from religious sentiments regarding the position of women, our cultures also subjects them too. Because women are subject to men is not a bad thing in itself, it that men take advantage of it is what is bad. But the whites that keep advocating for these useless propaganda all have it good. Their law favors women a lot, especially during a divorce. which is not the same case in Nigeria or Africa as it were.

Kay17:


Dignity.

Timbuktou:
What sort of dignity exactly. Where's the dignity in running down the family system? Or doing work you really don't need at the expense of one's family? I asked if you were married and you're yet to answer.