I dont need your filthy quran or useless hadiths to show you the lifestyle of your deranged and deceived deceiver - mohammed.

free123:

I have never seen this kind of double standards exhibited by these muslims. A book that is corrupt should be left alone to remain corrupt and should not be referenced in any manner whatsoever when trying to prove a fallacy. Quran should be enough to show and prove beyond doubt that mohammed was the comforter. But no, they will resort to using Holy Bible just to display glaringly their foolishness and stupidity.

this point of so called "muslim double standard" on the bible has being addressed in my previous post in another thread by myself in details:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-772940.0.html#msg9264044

If mohammed was a thief, a murderer, a despoiler, a terrorists, a 9yr old ''abuser'' and [size=14pt]an illiterate who needed a christian to teach him and prepare him for a terrorist he actually was, [/size]then mohammed was not a comforter but a war monger and a killer machine.

Wicked islam from the very pit of hell 

so christians actually teach people to become terrorists,is that what you just said?!!!   

free123:

I dont need your filthy quran or useless hadiths to show you the lifestyle of your deranged and deceived deceiver - mohammed.

get a glass of cold water.take it easy!

no need to lose control over yourself.

i know it pains alot when you are shown the truth and proven that what you have believed in is nonsense and falsehood.but you dont have to insult anyone if the facts dont favor you.the truth is bitter.take heart brother!

free123:

I dont need your filthy quran or useless hadiths to show you the lifestyle of your deranged and deceived deceiver - mohammed.

then your claim hold no water cos you have to have evidence to back your claim boy,

i am a servat of God like yourself so we need to obey and worship God not Jesus he is a human like me and you.

LagosShia:

please can you address the topic and not turn this thread into a contest of wits.this seem to be the escape you guys use in most of the threads.you abandon the subject to debate the users.

You are quite funny.
I just defended a silly post by a lunatic Muslim on his misinterpretation of John 21- , by linking it to Mohammad,which is nothing but a fallacy,you said I'm strayed from the isue.
Now I proved you otherwise,you say I i'm abandoning the subject. Smh
While the post was a post by the same Poster.

what will you say next?

I'm a very luminary person.
I try my best to provide facts(by Gods grace), but you can kill your brain to detest.

The truth is under your nose,you know what covering your nose will cause you?
Confusion and bitterness.

Judek2:

You are quite funny.
I just defended a silly post by a lunatic Muslim on his misinterpretation of John 21- , by linking it to Mohammad,which is nothing but a fallacy,you said I'm strayed from the isue.
Now I proved you otherwise,you say I i'm abandoning the subject. Smh
While the post was a post by the same Poster.

what will you say next?

I'm a very luminary person.
I try my best to provide facts(by Gods grace), but you can kill your brain to detest.

The truth is under your nose,you know what covering your nose will cause you?
Confusion and bitterness.

LagosShia:

please can you address the topic and not turn this thread into a contest of wits.this seem to be the escape you guys use in most of the threads.you abandon the subject to debate the users.

Judek2:

Tell me how the pattern of my reply cause it and how I did not quote him properly?
You wont simply admit that you were confused.

This was my original text
So tell me whats wrong with that?

LagosShia:

sir,the pattern of your replies caused that.

we were talking about "comforter".then you suddenly went back to what the OP raised without properly quoting him/her to show for whom your reply is meant for.

avoid argumentation and drifting away from the subject.i told you were in the process of discussing comforter in another verse,you went and quoted without name excerpts from the OP and replied to him using other verses.

ishow2005:
Who is The Only Begotten Son?
Did Jesus Call Himself the Son of God, Son of Man, or Son of David?

He did call Himself all three:

1.Son of God:
John 5:25 “And I assure you that the time is coming, indeed it’s here now, when the dead will hear MY voice—the voice of the Son of God
John 10:30 The Father and I are one.”

2.Son of David:
Jesus said in Revelations 22:16 "..I am both the Source of David and the heir to his throne"
(An heir is a son)

3: Son of man:
Like you are already aware.

John 19:7 The Jewish leaders replied, “By our law he ought to die because he called himself the Son of God.”

ishow2005:
The Original Sin
but did Jesus really die so God would forgive us for Adam and Eve's sin?

Jesus died to restore God's nature back to us and remove the sin nature in us.

Romans 5:12 When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.

(That is why a two year old child can tell lies. Because the sin nature was passed from Adam to every man. Nobody taught that child how to lie, it is the sin nature in that child)

Genesis1:27 "So God created human beings in his own image. IN THE IMAGE OF GOD HE CREATED THEM;......."

Genesis 5:1 "This is the written account of the descendants of Adam. When God created human beings, HE MADE THEM TO BE LIKE HIMSELF."

Genesis 5:3 "When ADAM was 130 years old, he became the father of a son WHO WAS JUST LIKE HIM—IN HIS VERY IMAGE. He named his son Seth."

(Adam only started having children after he sinned, after he had lost the nature of God. So the natured Seth his son inherited was the fallen nature, the sin nature, Adam's own nature. God's own nature was no longer there)

Romans 5:12 "When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, SO DEATH SPREAD TO EVERYONE, for everyone sinned."

ishow2005:
Why was the snake talking?

You rightly noted the snake is the devil, that's why he talked.

ishow2005:
Was Jesus the only Miracle Birth?
How about Adam, he had no Mother or Father and he was made by the hands of God from clay.
How about Eve she had no Mother or Father and made by the hands of God from a single rib of Adam.

Adam and Eve did not die to save the world. They sinned. (They DISOBEYED God)
Jesus did not disobey God..Philipians 2:8 ".......obedient to death- even death on a cross!"

ishow2005: Ezekiel 18:20
"The soul which does sin will be put to death: the son will not be made responsible for the evil-doing of the father, or the father for the evil-doing of the son; the righteousness of the upright will be on
himself, and the evil-doing of the evil¬doer on himself.

We sinned and deserved to die. But Jesus took our place and died instead. Our sins were laid on him.

That is why He cried on the cross "...My God My God, why has thou forsaken me" Mathew 27:46 because on that day on the cross, our sins were laid on Him. And God turned His back on Him for "..His eyes are too holy to behold sin"

John 17:3 "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent"

Death means to be apart or separated from God. It means not to have life (God) in you.

If you understand death to only mean "death" as natural man knows it only, you will be in confusion.
That is why Jesus said Lazarus was asleep even though Lazarus had been dead for three days by the natural man's understanding.
John 11:11 Then he said, "Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but now I will go and wake him up."
And when they still didn't understand, He had to use our own language, "dead"

And that is why it seemed Adam and Eve did not die because they were alive physically (but in the spirit they had been disconnected from God).
Adam and Eve ate the fruit of The Knowledge of Good and Evil and died immediately as God told them they would. In the spirit (cut off from God).

So, the soul that sins shall die (be cut off from God) but Jesus, out of Love has died, instead of you, for the sin you committed. You do not need to remain dead.
So, the moment you believe this truth, you will be restored back to God(spiritually) and not be cut off from God anymore.

But if you do not accept this truth, who is going to restore you to God?? Your good works?
God said, "....Our righteousness(good works) is like a filthy rag before Him...."Isaiah 64:6

Unless of course you have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus, will your good works also be clean.

ishow2005:
Why are women still groaning in childbirth

Did Jesus Believe in the Trinity or Three God's to Make One God?

Just as Adam sinned willfully, by choice. 1timothy 2:14 "And Adam was not deceived.."
So a man has to repent, accept the truth of the gospel willfully by choice. God will not force you. He has explained it all in His Word, The BiBle.

God has reserved the transformation of all things for a particular time "The end of time".
The time we were in right now, is the time of repentance, not transformation. "...Today when you hear his voice,
don’t harden your hearts......."

Your statement in the quote above, shows you have not yet known the plan of God.
HE has a plan.
You need the Holy Spirit to teach you as He teaches everyone who is submissive to Him.

Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" John10:30
Jesus said, "....even The Spirit of Truth who proceeded from The Father....." John15:26

So I ask, if the Spirit is the Spirit of The father, and Jesus and the Father are one, Is the Spirit not one with Jesus?

1John 5:8 For there are three that bear witness in, heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

If you can understand your own earthly daddy to be all three, "A Son, A Husband, A father" Why can't you understand God is Trinity

bashydemy:
^ why are you so sure i cannot convert if you can convince me enough and defend the contradiction of your fraud book you call bible why not,

and mind you Islam does not teach me to bomb myself cos Islam is sweet

I command by the Power of Creation of this world and everything in it, the HOLY BIBLE you called Fraud book you will surely use it to preach the Gospel of JESUS Christ.

free123:
Last month, a pastor was sentenced to death for accepting christianity in Iran. Last month, 2 sisters and 2 men were beheaded for killing someone in Saudi Arabia this is in line with their Islamic belief. In saudi arabia, women are oppressed to the extent that they are not allowed to drive vehicles on their own. In afghanistan, women are oppressed and taken as slaves. In islam, any woman raped is hanged while the man that committed such crime goes free.

Bahrain, Libya, Yemen, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Palestine, Somalia, etc are some countries under islamic oppression either through their leaders, islamic fundamentalists or some groups that induce terrorism into someone by the use of quran.

If the founder of islam (mohammed) was a terrorist, a thief and an oppressor, who maimed, killed and terrorised arabian countries, tell me how islamic adherents will know peace. Osama bin laden, sadam Hussein, Saleh, Mubarak, Riqi, Gaddafi etc are (were) some islamic fundamentalists who follow the teachings of islam and mohammed, are equalling killing in thousands, their brothers and infidels, behaeding innocent people, and terrorising the whole world.

Islam is peaceful - this is what they tell you when they kill in their thousands. Have you ever heard someone tell you fire doesn't burn?

Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God that we imitate was peaceful, He gave life to people, He restored people's sight, gave hope to the hopeless, went about doing good, healing the sick, raising the dead to life. This same Jesus Christ is/was the root of Christianity that teaches 'love your neighbour as yourself' and tolerance.

Tell me how someone will leave peace and rest of mind embedded in christianity to search for peace in islam where there is no peace?

bro u said it all.
Just because he cudnt fully understand the bible-who can? We know only in part - and wasnt willing to settle for progressive insight ,which God gives as His children walk in the light they hav , he brands the bible , christianity as wrong and erroneous to settle for tht abomination called islam!

Ayusguy:



I command by the Power of Creation of this world and everything in it, the HOLY BIBLE you called Fraud book you will surely use it to preach the Gospel of JESUS Christ.

You don fail already go and die, You are refering me back to a 2011 topic that's over 3yrs.